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Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 9:58am On Oct 23, 2012
@logicboy
on second thoughts, scratch my last comment to you and...ahem, forgive my intrusion.
IslamRe: Bible Is Superior To Quran by F00028: 1:22pm On Oct 22, 2012
truthman2012: Then tell the world which Scriptures was revealed before Quran? Or which inspired revelation there was before Quran?
with regards to the "scripture" of the christians, the Qur'an refers only to the recorded, UNADULTERATED message God gave to Jesus to deliver to his people. specifically it calls it "injeel".

it doesn't include corinthians, peter, hebrews, etc

so when the Quran says, scripture, stop assuming its a book containing genesis to revelation.
IslamRe: Bible Is Superior To Quran by F00028: 8:15am On Oct 22, 2012
truthman2012: Now I ask you: if the Bible is corrupted according to you muslims, why did Allah tell Mohammed to consult it? You muslims are wiser than you Allah?
but that's the thing: Allah NEVER tell His prophet to consult the "bible"
IslamRe: Bible Is Superior To Quran by F00028: 8:13am On Oct 22, 2012
where exactly does the verse say "bible"? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 10:53pm On Oct 21, 2012
Logicboy03: like who?

You?
no, brother man. you dont know my size. cool
Christianity EtcRe: Christians/muslims What Have You Learnt From Atheists On Nairaland? by F00028: 10:49pm On Oct 21, 2012
haven't met one yet that wasn't intellectually unscrupulous.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 10:39pm On Oct 21, 2012
@logicboy03

go pick on somebody your own size. angry
IslamRe: Challenges Of Muslims In Nigeria; Solutions Needed Please by F00028: 1:07pm On Oct 21, 2012
idowuswap: Hey stop shit that is hausa land not yoruba lannd na hausa no dey go school but yoruba muslim get position.
are you a Muslim or a tribalist?
Christianity EtcRe: How Has The Different Versions Of The Bible Affected You & Christianity by F00028: 1:00pm On Oct 21, 2012
ifeness: Any black man with a brain will worry less about the Arab man's manipulative books
if that's you angle, how different is a jewish man's book to a black man?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 10:25am On Oct 21, 2012
Logicboy03: lies
that's it?!
come on, you're logic...boy03.

here, for starters, google this:
stalin, atheist, mass murderer, russia

mao, atheist, mass murderer, china

pol pot, atheist, mass murderer, cambodia
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 9:28am On Oct 21, 2012
@logicboy03
if Muslims are violent because of the Qur'an as you alluded above, why is it that your foreign atheists masters' regimes have killed of an estimated 40 million to 200 million in just the last 100 years? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 8:05pm On Oct 20, 2012
Logicboy03: 1) Tales are... the main source of the Quran...
F A L S E! but am always open to proof.

Logicboy03: 2) My village example is quite clear! My granny was an atheist/agnostic.
make up your mind was she atheist or agnostic?

Logicboy03: 3) Every atheist is an agnostic. I know that you are ignorant about this, so I wouldnt hold it against you.
you people claim one can be both but an atheist negates the existence of God, an agnostic has no opinion on the matter 'cos he doesn't know for sure.

if you say every atheist is an agnostic it means you guys go around hollering there's no God! but you really dont know for sure whether He exists or not shocked

Logicboy03: Furthermore, they call their animals spirits. Their spirits are tangible.
SAY WHAT?! you should read and understand stuff before you cite it. their spirits are not tangible, they can take tangible form:
"However, they do believe in spirits that can sometimes take on the shape of things in the environment."

Logicboy03: Xigagai could have been a bird or a helicopter.
“Xigagaí, one of the beings that lives above the clouds, was standing on a beach yelling at us, telling us that he would kill us if we go into the jungle.” Everett and his daughter could see nothing and yet the Pirahã insisted that Xigagaí was still on the beach.

that sounds like a chopper to you? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028:
Logicboy03: Buddhism is an atheistic religion. Many Buddhists follow only the teaching of Buddha. Funny how you mention "some" branches because you know that most Buddhists are in fact atheistic.
you said "some" not I

Logicboy03: Furthermore, my granny was an atheist/agnostic who didnt believe in her pagan tradition.
look! make up your mind. was the poor woman atheist or agnostic huh

Logicboy03: My tribe has had people who didnt suscribe to the oracle and left the village.
Then there are tales of Benin Obas who went aainst the oracle.
"tales" ? really, "tales"?? ...by moon light huh

Logicboy03: You are very ignorant. Please go an read about
the piraha tribe in brazil that has harldy had
contact with the outside world, yet they have
been atheists for centuries.
sigh...more strawmen

the piraha:
"They require evidence for every claim you make. They aren't interested in things if they don't know the history behind them..."

"However, they do believe in spirits..."

"Everett reported one incident where the Pirahã said that “Xigagaí, one of the beings that lives above the clouds, was standing on a beach yelling at us, telling us that he would kill us if we go into the jungle.”

THESE ARE ATHEISTS huh
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 6:15am On Oct 20, 2012
Logicboy03: In Asia, Budhism is an atheistic religion. Furthermore, atheism has been in existence in Asian civilizations for long.
look, if you don't know something look it up! branches of buddhism incorporate deity worship.

Logicboy03: In Africa despite our pagan history, tere were many that went against the oracles. There were people who didnt follow the traditional gods. There were kings in my tribe that gave up on gods and followed their own rules. my granny was an atheist/agnostic who was born into paganism but hardly ever followed any religion or any god as an adult.
which tribe is that? what kings? where is this documented?

Logicboy03: Epic fail.
Atheism started everywhere.
all the histories of atheism I have come across point to europe and europeans: across the centuries from the first reputed diagoras to dawkins.
neither your granny nor your kings are listed.

you're a slave only you don't know it.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Man Wins $30 Million Lottery Shortly After Being Dumped By Girlfriend by F00028: 10:56pm On Oct 19, 2012
Callotti: Na even ARAB sef. . . .
Small blokos!
Abeg carry ya money go!
Sheeeeeeeeeeesh.
Who wan follow 'TALIBAN' sef. . .
Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. . . . . angry
sigh...silence is the virtue of ....

sandeep singh na arab name huh
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 8:38pm On Oct 19, 2012
Logicboy03: 2) You are happy that your Muezzin speaks Arabic and not your local language? Why are you then shocked when I call you an Arab slave?
you cant shock me logicboy. I've met more militant atheists than you.

but here's the thing. by your logic, your atheism startled in europe. from diagoras, to hume, to closet atheists like voltaire and locke, right down to your latest star, dawkins- are all europeans.

you are a slave of the europeans then, not so? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 2:04pm On Oct 19, 2012
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Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 2:03pm On Oct 19, 2012
Logicboy03: 1) Your religion has only one prophet that was muslim and that is an Arab man called Muhammad.
F A L S E


2) Your Muezzins should be smart enough to use the local language to call prayers in whatever country they are in. Rather than show respect, they call prayers in Arabic like Arab slaves
he's not calling you, he's calling us and we're heppy with the uniformity


3) Your religion came to Nigeria through Arab slave traders. It did not come peacefully
PROVE IT


4) Allah supported the muslim Arabs in their fights against the Jews as stated in the Quran.
HE supports muslims, period

5) Even you have demonstrated that one can not fully understand the Quran without knowing Arabic as yu are complaining that 5 of your best translators of the Quran got SURAH 4;34 wrong.
your local language does not have words with more than one meaning huh


6) Your religion is racist. Arab this, Arab that. You want to know why muslims did not want their women not marrying non-muslims? They were Afraid that their christian and jewish slaves would marry their women.
PROVE IT
you need to stop presenting your wild fantasies as facts to be taken seriously undecided



7) Muhammad beat Aisha according to Sahih muslim 4;2127
mistranslation again.
one advantage we have is, the original Arabic is still available side by side the translation and can always be verified


cool Wife beating is in the Quran. You can claim that the word doesnt translate to "beat" but then, you would be saying 2 bad things about islam
a) Arabic is a very confusing language that can not even depict the Quran's message in a clear manner.
I just explained it to you in english


9) I was talking about brothers and sisters in inheritance not step brother and full sister...
now that you've been caught lying...anyway, there's a reason for that.

Stop lying for islam
don't need you. besides, your conviction is not really that important to me

is that all you've got? show me some logic..boy03
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028:
Logicboy03: Abraham- Father of Jews. Hebrew name. Arabic/arabs did not exist during his time.
Moses- Jewish guy with the Jewish scriptures and Jewish leader.
Jesus. A Jewish messiah who live among Jews.
The only muslim prophet was Mohammed, an Arab guy
what part of Islam is not a racial religion did you not get?

Islam's prophets don't have to be Arabs.

Logicboy03: Stop lying for islam. Your Muezzin shouts in Arabic not English both in Nigeria and English speaking countries.
you want him to call the prayer in the over 6000 spoken languages huh
or must everything have to be your be in your colonial masters' language?

Logicboy03: Arabic is needed to fully understand the Quran.
if you insist.

Logicboy03: Abraham did not build the Kabba. Even Jews will tell you that there remains no evidence for Abraham, yet you muslims miraculously found a house he built thousands of miles away from where he lived.
and because the jews say so...? skip it. it's not even important.

Logicboy03: Why do you face Mecca?
asked and answered.

Logicboy03: Why is it a pillar to go to Mecca? Did the Quran say that Hajj is a pillar?
yes.

Logicboy03: Stop lying. A brother gets twice that of a sister Always.
A BIG FAT LIE!!!
e.g:if a person dies leaving one full sister and three half-brothers (by the father), the full sister gets half the inheritance, and the other half is distributed equally among the three half- brothers.

Logicboy03: 5 of yor best Quranic translators (Ali, Pickthall, Shakir etc) translate the word to "beat". Why should I trust your apologist translation.
they are not infallible.

Logicboy03: Ther are hadiths that say that Aisha was struck by Muahmmad.
where are they?

Logicboy03: Really? Has someone ever read "The God Delusion" and went on a killing spree?
oh, we'll get to your atheists world views soon enough.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 11:29pm On Oct 18, 2012
Logicboy03: 1) Proof that the muslim God has a chosen people which are Arabs
-The only muslim prophet is an Arab- (Mohammed)
-The Quran was revealed in Arabic
wrong again. Muhammad (SAW) may be the only arab prophet but he was not the only muslim prophet. we have many others (non arabs)e.g Abraham (SAW), Moses (SAW) etc

as for the last prophet being an arab, well he had to come from somewhere, didn't he? and the language which spoke was the language his message was given to him and recorded.

Islam is not a racial religion.

Logicboy03: -To fully understand the Quran (as claimed by muslim imams and resident muslims on NL) you must understand Arabic
not if you have a good teacher. but everyone is entitled to his/her opinion

Logicboy03: -Muslims must face Arabic lands when praying
-Muslims go on pilgrimage to Arab lands as a pillar of their religion
muslims specifically face the "house of God" which was built by Abraham (non arab) for his worship. before that we used to face jerusalem.

it provides uniformity in our prayer and some other acts of worship.

Logicboy03: And the damning evidence;
The Quran says: “You [Muslims] are the best nation brought out for Mankind, commanding what is righteous (معروف Maʻrūf, lit. "recognized [as good]"wink and forbidding what is wrong (منكر Munkar, lit. "unrecognized [as good]"wink…” [3:110].
"muslims" not "arabs"

Logicboy03: Concerning Muslim issues,
We have
-Sexism and abuse of women's rights. Lesser inheritance,
that's only 1/4 true there are other instances when:
-they inherit as much as men,
-they inherit more than men, and
-they inherit while men don't

Logicboy03: they cant marry christians or jews and wife beating.
muslim women can only marry muslim men. what's your beef with that?

wife beating:
first, God's last prophet is our example and he never beat any of his wives at any time!
second, the verse in the Quran that supposedly gives that permission contains the word "idribuhunna". though it's almost universally translated as "beat them (lightly)" it also means to depart, separate, leave them etc. which is more consistent with the prophet's actions and sayings about matrimony.

Logicboy03: -Violence. There will always be people who take the violent verses in the Quran literally. Bin Laden and co.
that's not Islam's doing.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Africans Confused? by F00028: 11:08am On Oct 18, 2012
Logicboy03: The muslim god has chosen people- Arabs
FALSE


Logicboy03: At what rate? Nigeria is about 40% muslim and 40% christian.
HUH?

Logicboy03: -Why do Nigerian muslims go on pilgrimage to Mecca when their country's tourism is dead?
the Muslim pilgrimage is a religious obligation not a mere tourism.


Logicboy03: Religion is to blame for many things as I have pointed out
like what? be specific to Islam if you can.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Trinitarians Ignorant Of What Moses Said? by F00028: 10:57am On Oct 18, 2012
Enigma: "God has come to help his people."
it only means the "help" was from God. just because you ascribe an act to God it doesn't mean he personally did the action.

maybe in english it looks that way. but you must remember they didn't speak english.

Enigma: Well, it corroborates the prophecy about Jesus and the name Emmanuel: God with us! smiley
cool
correct me if am wrong but didn't the prophesy day he shall be called emmanuel? I dont recall reading anyone ever calling Jesus emmanuel.
Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028: 9:01am On Oct 18, 2012
andromida: How and when did you become an authority on the scriptures and its corruption?
you dont need to be an authority to know the chtistian scriptures have been tampered with. let me give you a clear example:
the roman catholic bible has 73 books, the protestant bible has 66 books.
so which is it? did the protestants throw away
whole books of scripture or did catholic include books that are not scripture?

andromida: If were not there when Jesus was preaching the gospel can you tell us who was there so we can go and hear from them.?
that's a very tall order, andromida. especially now, 2000 years after the fact.

and to make matters worse, while Jesus walked this earth nothing was recorded. he didn't write down nor did he ask anyone to write down anything.
Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028: 9:00am On Oct 18, 2012
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Christianity EtcRe: Yahweh: Babes Raped Forced To Marry The Rapist? by F00028: 9:25pm On Oct 17, 2012
frosbel: A man rapes a virgin and is forced to marry her huh What's wrong with that ?

Are these atheists not truly brainless to think that this is injustice...
did I miss the sarcasm or you really dont see nothing wrong with making a woman spend the rest of life with the man that rap.ed her undecided
Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028:
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Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028: 2:06pm On Oct 17, 2012
Logicboy03: Then, what does it mean?
idle curiosity, logicboy?

it means unadulterated revelation be it a verse, chapter, half a chapter or, of course, a whole book.

the bible today, after centuries of tampering- additions and ommissions cannot be considered, as a whole, scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028: 12:45pm On Oct 17, 2012
italo: Which are the "Torah and the Gospel which ARE WITH THEM (Jews and Christians)" in Mohammed's time? Is it not the same Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? If not, show me the Gospel Mohammed is talking about. Let us read it together.

What Scripture was in the possession of the Jews at the time of Mohammed?
part of the problem is when the Qur'an says "scripture" your mind only pictures a leather bound book with 66 - 73 books inside. it doesn't mean that.
Christianity EtcRe: I Only Want To Engage Two Non Muslims If Only They Would Be Compliant by F00028: 11:00pm On Oct 16, 2012
andromida: @F0028 oh ok didn't know you are on the fence on this.
how do you figure that?

I believe God gave Jesus a message (gospel) to his people. unfortunately it has not been preserved unedited. what you have now is the gospel according to mathew, mark, luke or john.

let me ask you, when you read in the bible Jesus went here and there preaching the gospel do you think it was mathew, mark, luke or john he was carrying ?
Christianity EtcRe: Could Atheism Be Considered The Gay Religion? by F00028:
wiegraf: ...do you have a small pipi? A lot of the time ppl with small pipis are rather frustrated, they then become anon tough guys on the internet to help make themselves feel better...
so that's it? I always knew sagamouse was over compensating for something.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Godd.amned mental midget
it seems intellect isn't the only area you come up short grin
Christianity EtcRe: Could Atheism Be Considered The Gay Religion? by F00028: 10:38pm On Oct 16, 2012
Sagamite: Shut up, person!

Do you want me to start bringing the questions?
F00028: already going for the distraction card, I see.
wink

you made a claim and am calling you on it: back it up, b.i.tch! or quit following me around.
Christianity EtcRe: Could Atheism Be Considered The Gay Religion? by F00028: 7:33pm On Oct 16, 2012
Sagamite: Shut up, dumb person, before I start giving you questions that will make you run like a pathetic cretin. grin
already going for the distraction card, I see.
wink

you made a claim and am calling you on it: back it up, b.i.tch! or quit following me around.

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