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PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 6:32pm On Oct 02, 2012
Sagamite: I don't have regards for any religion. They are all absolute tosh for a thinking man. Men claiming they spoke to or saw God? Fcking BS!

But it I was to rate major religions in terms of quality, Islam would be at the bottom.

That said, I don't hate Islam or think it is totally bad or think people should not follow it. I just find it the most dangerous and unrefined out of all major religions. It must be regulated and practiced with care, mainly by enlightened minds, like they do in Yorubaland and Turkey. Once you mix illiteracy and Islam, it is potentially combustible.

It is the only violent religion where followers can go to the place of worship and preach arbitrary and random hate and killing unchallenged! Hardly does anyone in the mosque have the guts or will to even challenge such.
the question is still unanswered.
what's a better way? a better system, religion...whatever?
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 5:50pm On Oct 02, 2012
Sagamite: Islam does not PREACH PEACE!

Islam preaches CONDITIONAL ANTAGONISM!

Conditions:

- Accept Islam or, at least, the sovereign power and superiority of Islam over you and we will leave you in peace.

- On the other hand, if we do not have the power to do above, don't fck with us and we will not fck with you. If you fck with us, we will bring catastrophe by all means possible when and if we can.

- If both above are achieved, then we will not be antagonistic and you will have peace (at least, until the day we have the power over you).


That, in summary, was what Muhammed practiced.

THAT IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE! It is the most violent major religion in the world!

Across the world, other religions normally do, by and large, coexist very peacefully with each other. The only frequent exceptions is when one of the other religions is Islam, then you have violence. It is muslims that people need to make adopt a peaceful attitude!
alright then. what's a better way? a better system, religion...whatever?
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 5:34pm On Oct 02, 2012
seguntijan: hello, mind you there are problems everywhere in the world except the city of mecca and medinah in saudi. I also want to tell you that those islamic countries where we have war are been caused by the West[AMERICA] because of their oil. America will support Isreal against Pakistan so that after their victory she will have a share in Pakistan oil this is what happen in Libya also and we all know the politics behind Boko haram to de-stabilse Jonathan admin. Islam preaches peace, but most muslims doesnt pratice what the Quran teaches as most christains doesnt pratice what the bible Preaches.
seguntijan, I think most Muslims do practice what the Qur'an teaches only that it's the ones that dont that get all the media coverage.
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 5:28pm On Oct 02, 2012
Sagamite: Islam does not preach peace. That is utter rubbish. Islam preaches conditional antagonism.
Islam is not head in the clouds pacifism. it preaches peace and the need to prepared because no matter how you may want to coexist peacefully with your neighbours, you can't make them adopt the same attitude.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 10:44am On Oct 02, 2012
@Reyginus
how does this fit into your hypothesis:

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity”
(Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102)



“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities... “

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/



According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984
IslamRe: Non-muslims Vs Muslims Debate At Work! by F00028: 8:40am On Oct 02, 2012
AbdulSleek: 1) That islam would be banned if they were to have blasphemy laws in the UK. They said that the christians believe in Jesus (PBUH) as a god but ...
lol...they would also need to ban Judaism. and we all know they wouldn't dare.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 8:25am On Oct 02, 2012
italo: I have tried to read the book - to no avail. However, you still haven't given me proof that that conversation actually took place. If the Imam said in his book that a certain conversation took place, it doesn't necessarily mean that it did. Even though it did, it doesn't prove anything. Like I said earlier, Christians are not taught to believe that The Almighty God will save all his people from earthly death all the time, so the purported conversation is of no use in proving anything, except that the 'Reverend'-if he existed, used the wrong approach in his discussion with the 'Imam.'

I have read the Bible and I'm left with the same conclusion. He was seized without resistance.
-you want a video of the event huh or will you only believe it if it's in the christian missionary's book?

- Jesus only gave up the idea when he realised it was futile. all his actions up to that point show a man who didn't want to die for you or anyone else. his famous last words on the cross should tell you that.
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 1:05am On Oct 02, 2012
tbaba1234: @ghazzal @ F008

I would suggest that you brothers become a bit knowledgeable in the history...
will do.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 11:29pm On Oct 01, 2012
Reyginus: Nothing of the sword will survive.
speak plainly, man.
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 11:25pm On Oct 01, 2012
LagosShia: so please check Hadith ath-Thaqalain.
do you have a link I can check?
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 4:49pm On Oct 01, 2012
Reyginus: You miss the point.
As other religions contract and increase as well, islam increases but shrinks.
In the end, it is lost in the crowd.
okay. I'll be open minded. what do you base all this on?
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 3:20pm On Oct 01, 2012
haibe: [color=#990000]Jesus didnt need anyone to fight for him ....
that's not true! he told his disciples to acquire weapons. sell their garments even. he only abandoned the idea of armed resistance when he finally came face to face with his enemies and realised he was outnumbered!
-mark. 14:43

really, dont you guys ever read the bible yourselves? undecided
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 10:49am On Oct 01, 2012
italo: Firstly, I don't believe that that conversation actually ever took place, even though you term it "reality." (You are free to provide proof of its authenticity if you have it.)
the actual conversation did take place. it was between a reverend and an imam in colonial india. and yes, its documented. the book is called izharul-haq

italo: That is part of what Jesus came to show us. They seized him without resistance, tortured and killed him, yet he rose and lives forever.
shocked whithout resistance?! is that what they told you?!?

you should start reading the bible for yourself. it would dispel that ridiculous notion.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 10:34am On Oct 01, 2012
Reyginus: lol. You dont know that for every man born, his procreation is at a geometric progression.
If islam is a billion plus, it does not reflect to an influx of 'new believing souls' because its adherents procreates geometrically as well.
How then is your population more important than your growth rate?
maybe if we were considering whether Islam was the fastest growing religion you could bring that up.

reality is you presently have one billion people adhering to a faith, born or converted. by no stretch of the imagination are they 'closer to extinction'...not in our life time anyway.
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 6:58pm On Sep 30, 2012
Reyginus: Which is more important, their growth rate or population?
what's the difference? as long as they are muslims and they are over a billion how can they be closer to extinction?
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 12:01pm On Sep 30, 2012
LagosShia: [Holy Quran 9:101]
"Among the Arabs around you, there are hypocrites. Also, among the city dwellers, there are those who are accustomed to hypocrisy. You do not know them, but we know them. We will double the retribution for them, then they end up committed to a terrible retribution".

The Prophet (sa) said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount". 'Abdullah added: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount, and some of you will be brought in front of me till I will see them and then they will be taken away from me and I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' It will be said, 'you do not know what they did after you had left.'
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8 Hadith 578
LagosShia, that’s all very well but my question relates to a specific group.

the “ arabs around you” and “companions” (who you know by the time the Prophet (SAW) died numbered in the thousands) is too general. that is why I used the phrase “core group”. people like Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali (r.a) i.e the very people upon whom the responsibility of the carrying on the message will IMMEDIATELY fall upon when the Prophet (SAW) is no more.
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 2:05pm On Sep 29, 2012
ghazzal: i undetstand that but according to islamic teachings, eveyone will be tried even the prophets core group. the prophet (saaw) is the only example for mankind with special guidiance. If he can tolerate this pple, what should we do......... beteween the shades of black nd white are some matters not clear, they should be avoided. cos only Allah knows it all. again just my sincere opinion.
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 11:56am On Sep 29, 2012
ghazzal: [29:2] Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and they will not be teated.- the message was sent wholly and the great enemy of man will definately begin to find a way to cause mischief/hatred/division. there were hypocrites even before the prophet died. so the mischief maker has always been around. this is one of the tests after 23 years of education...success in it is definately the ultimate success. may most high God in his mercy guide us to success. amin
according to sunni traditions the hypocrites were already identified plus he (SAW) left clues by which to I.d later ones.

my question was in relation to Prophet's (SAW) core group. keep in mind this was the last Prophet whose message is last till the end.
IslamRe: The Actual Shia Position On The Sahaba by F00028: 9:58am On Sep 29, 2012
don't the shia only accept 3, though some books add Abu Musa al Ashari?

what kind of God will aid his last Prophet against all his external enemies and him with the more dangerous internal? did he not know?
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 9:47am On Sep 29, 2012
Reyginus: Islam is still evolving. Though from the look of things, it's closer to extinction than evolution.
really now? at last count they are over a billion. 20 years ago they were not that many.

how is that 'closer to extinction' huh
IslamRe: Muslims Fight To Defend Their Prophet And Christians Dont? by F00028: 9:44am On Sep 29, 2012
Donphilly: Can somebody honestly shed some light why muslims would kill, fight and defend their prophet while the christians would only pray and ask God to defend himself....
undecidedmaybe they are more passionate about their Prophet that christians are about the "Son of God" even though he died for them.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Man Behind Anti-Islam Movie Arrested (pics) by F00028: 7:43pm On Sep 28, 2012
tintingz: Nakoula is now a dead man walking including salman rushdie grin
what rushdie is costing the british is payback enough. I hope he lives to be 100
Foreign AffairsRe: The Man Behind Anti-Islam Movie Arrested (pics) by F00028: 7:39pm On Sep 28, 2012
olusogo: The Islamaphobia nairaland. There can only be peaceful world only if we respect and honour our differences. I am yet to read where moslems derogate christian sacrileges but Christians do, they also support those that engage in such acts all in the name of freedom. I condemn in totality the extremism of some moslems, also some of us are extremists in attacking Islam. undecided
Foreign AffairsRe: The Man Behind Anti-Islam Movie Arrested (pics) by F00028: 7:37pm On Sep 28, 2012
Pysam: if they don't cover his face a jihadist ll nt mind committing a crime to join him in prison and kill him in any where they take him to
I swear you watch too much tv grin
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 6:39pm On Sep 28, 2012
Sagamite: who told you I am a Xtian or I give a shyt about Xtianity? What glass houses are you talking about? Are you this dumb? person!
then what was this infantile tantrum all about huh

Sagamite: You are a person!

No 1, where in the bible did it say be harsh to unbelievers and you will go to heaven.

No 2, where do Xtian practice such edict with the belief they would go to heaven.

person, don't come back here saying Catholic priest molested kids because they believe it would get them to heaven.

FOOOOL! grin
F00028: MY GOD! sagamouse you are an i'diot tongue

do you have put a lot of work into being this insufferable or is it a gift huh

FROM NOW ON THIS APPLIES TO ALL MY POSTS: sagamouse and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal.
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 4:04pm On Sep 28, 2012
Sagamite: person!

[Quran 5:33] "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."
Well, you wage war against God, He wages one back.

I know you’re shaking your pea-brained head right about now so try and wrap it around this:

death to followers of other religions - (Exodus 22:20)

just one person worships another god? – DEATH TO ENTIRE TOWN (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

don't listen to priests? – DEATH (Deuteronomy 17:12)

gay? – DEATH (Leviticus 20:13)

do a little astrology? – DEATH (Leviticus 20:27)

fool around? – DEATH (Leviticus 20:10)

priest’s daughter fool around? –DEATH (Leviticus 21:9)

kill nonbelievers- : (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

fake pastors? – DEATH (Zechariah 13:3 )

not a virgin on your wedding night? – DEATH (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

blasphemy? – DEATH (Leviticus 24:10-16)

disrespectful children – DEATH (2 Kings 2:23-24)
and many, many, many more…

oh yeah, and Jesus says: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil". (Mathew 5:17)

my God! sagamouse you’re an I’diot! you shudda known better than to come at me with this. tongue

and what did i say about people who live in glass houses?
PoliticsRe: Empty Seats, As GEJ Addresses The UN General Assembly by F00028: 11:42am On Sep 28, 2012
but why PDP no organise audience na huh
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 10:07pm On Sep 27, 2012
Sagamite: As I said, people would follow the behaviours of their most reverred messenger.

Muhammed himself ordered several killings of people that distrespected him, so don't be surprised if there are muslims willing to kill because Muhammed was disrespected.
F00028: MY GOD! sagamouse you are an i'diot tongue

do you have put a lot of work into being this insufferable or is it a gift huh

FROM NOW ON THIS APPLIES TO ALL MY POSTS: sagamouse and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal.
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 10:05pm On Sep 27, 2012
Sagamite: I said shut up, person!
F00028: MY GOD! sagamouse you are an i'diot tongue

do you have put a lot of work into being this insufferable or is it a gift huh

FROM NOW ON THIS APPLIES TO ALL MY POSTS: sagamouse and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal.
PoliticsRe: Religion Against Humanity By Wole Soyinka by F00028: 7:07pm On Sep 27, 2012
Sagamite: You are a person!

Your madrassa educated arsse can never have the intellect to deceive me. Fooool!
F00028: MY GOD! sagamouse you are an i'diot tongue

do you have put a lot of work into being this insufferable or is it a gift huh

FROM NOW ON THIS APPLIES TO ALL MY POSTS: sagamouse and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal.
Christianity EtcRe: Is God A Trinity? by F00028: 2:56pm On Sep 27, 2012
Antivirus92: Op is hell bound
that's for the Father to decide...not you.

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