₦airaland Forum

mojojesu94:
So if i may ask which part of the bible was altered the old testament or the new testament? I don't want to add issues of bible versions for the sake of this discussion let us stick to KJV because if we are to go there its a long way.

And concerning the issue you raised when in the line of History was the bible corrupted.

Lets not drag that, too much because there is a God that is the Father and their is a God that is the Son and they are one. To bring that home you have a soul, spirit and body but yet you are one, if a Son of the dust like you can be that complex how do you think of God's own nature.

durangokid:
At what time in his life please?

mojojesu94:
I stand with both.

Begotten Son Of god

Is Jesus God ?

mojojesu94:
Let me first react to this, if the bible was altered and it is the word of God or 'corrupted word of God' it means God did not preserve it. And if Muslims are to consult it, then there is a problem with them living in fullness of obedience to God.

Now The issue of any verse going against the Quran, why not any verse going against the bible and mind you the word God, is it Jehovah or Allah?

I think the truth of the bible should be based on other evidences like historical and co, not because the Quran validates it or it does not.

mojojesu94:
The bolded is a definition of a servant, all primates are monkeys but not all monkeys are primates. if Sonship is based on obedience then what is servanthood?

Sonship is about relationship either by birth or by adoption.

durangokid:
Did buhari ever enter usa before?

mojojesu94:
that scripture you quoted there showed Jesus calling God Father so if we are to believe that he is a Muslim can we believe he is also Son of God based on that scripture?

Carlmax:
He is overworking.... Can't wait to have a president like him, he is the only reason I can tolerate another 4 yrs of the lifeless one. Else Buhari can go to blazes.

mojojesu94:
Yes

mojojesu94:
The marked is true, but am a yoruba guy and i know for you to adapt a word to your language it must carry same meaning or similar pronounciation.


And when you look at John and Yahya for instance you see wide variation....
And from my little knowledge of language we can't really say they are the same people (sorry if that sounds somehow).

mojojesu94:
Is there any other similar name like that in both books that are at variance that much that much.

Can you drop the bible passage?

A former Kano State governor, Ibrahim Shekarau, will announce his decision to defect to the ruling All Progressives Congress, APC, today, following the crisis that rocked the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, in the state.

DAILY NIGERIAN reliably gathered Mr Shekarau had been in contact with vice president Yemi Osinbajo since the gale of defection struck across both ruling and opposition party.

Inside sources said the ruling party had made a number of promises to Mr Shekarau, including a ministerial slot, should he dump the PDP and join APC.

“You know Osinbajo was once Shekarau’s lawyer. Remember Shekarau gave him the all-important cases involving Kano State and Pfizer and another case of alleged foreign accounts.

“Osinbajo won case against the magazine that published the story of foreign accounts allegedly owned by Shekarau. Osinbajo also negotiated a settlement in favour of Kano State Government in the Pfizer case. So they struck a bond since then.

“Shekarau is a founding member of the APC and most of his political friends are the leaders of the party today.

“Among the promises made to him long ago, are a ministerial position and other appointments for his associates. What stopped him from considering the offer at that time was EFCC. While talks were at advanced stage, EFCC suddenly re-arraigned him for alleged money laundering.

“But I can assure you that Shekarau will return to APC today. All arrangements have been concluded,” said a source familiar with the development.

It is however not clear if EFCC will drop charges against him or discontinue with the case.

DAILY NIGERIAN also gathered that Kano State governor, Abdullahi Ganduje, has also been persuading Mr Shekarau to join the APC by regular payments of his entitlements as a former governor.

Although Shekarau had initially indicated no interest to leave the APC, recent developments that rendered him politically ineffectual in the party in Kano forced him to take the decision.

Mr Shekarau’s spokesman, Sule Yau Sule, told DAILY NIGERIAN on Tuesday morning that the decision would be taken today after stakeholders’ meeting with his associates.

“Mallam does not take decision without consultation, and I can assure you that critical decision would be taken today,” he said.

Mr Shekarau is apparently unhappy with the way PDP headquarters ceded control of the party at the state level to his political enemy, Rabiu Kwankwaso.

Last week, the national headquarters of the party appointed a 7-man caretaker committee, following dissolution of the Mas’ud Doguwa-led EXCO of the party in the state.

mojojesu94:
Don't get me wrong... He [b]may[/b]be a muslim if you say he is... but at least if you look at other names like Abraham, Moses, Jacob and co they look similar in Islam, my question is why is the name of Jesus different?

You believe that the God infinite in wisdom does not do anything without a reason (I assume), Now my second question is this.

What is the purpose for the birth of Jesus without a Father? What God just doing a public stunt or what?

Jeezuzpick:
You and I, Nigerians as a whole, don't matter.

I got it.

Thanks.

According to him, for the avoidance of doubt, neither the Constitution nor any written law allows a President or a Governor to whom a bill is forwarded by the legislature to edit, correct, amend or in any manner alter the provisions of any such bill to reflect appropriate intent before assenting to same. “He is to assent in the manner it is or to withhold assent

President Muhammadu Buhari has declined assent to Electoral (Amendment) Bill 2018 due to “some drafting issues” that remain unaddressed following the prior revisions to the Bill, an official said.

Ita Enang, the Senior Special Assistant to the President on National Assembly Matters (Senate), made this known in a statement in Abuja on Monday. The presidential aide said that already, the president had communicated his position to the Senate and the House of Representatives on August 30.

“Mr President is declining assent to the Electoral Amendment Bill due to some drafting issues that remain unaddressed following the prior revisions to the Bill.

“Mr President invites the Senate and House of Representatives to address these issues as quickly as possible so that he may grant assent to the Electoral Amendment Bill.’’

Mr Enang listed the outstanding issues resolved to include a cross referencing error in the proposed amendment to Section 18 of the Bill.

“The appropriate amendment is to substitute the existing sub-section (2) with the proposed subsection (1A), while the proposed sub-section (1B) is the new sub-section (2A).

‘’The proposed amendment to include a new Section 87 (14) which stipulates a specific period within which political party primaries are required to be held.
“It has the unintended consequence of leaving INEC with only nine days to collate and compile lists of candidates and political parties as well manage the primaries of 91 political parties for the various elections.”

He explained that the Electoral Amendment Bill did not amend sections 31, 34 and 85 which stipulated times for the submission of lists of candidates, publication of lists of candidates and notice of convention, congresses for nominating candidates for elections.

“For clarity, may I provide some details of the provisions referenced; Clause 87 (14) states.
“The dates for the primaries shall not be earlier than 120 days and not later than 90 days before the date of elections to the offices.
“The Electoral Act 2010 referred to herein states in Section 31: that every Political Party shall not later than 60 days before the date appointed for a general election, submit to the commission the list of candidates the party proposes to sponsor at the elections.
“Section 34: That the Commission shall at least 30 days before the day of the election publish a statement of the full names and addresses of all candidates standing nominated.
“Section 85 (1):That a Political Party shall give the Commission at least 21 days notice of any convention, congress etc., for electing members of its executive committees or nominating candidates for any of the elective offices.’’

According to him, for the avoidance of doubt, neither the Constitution nor any written law allows a President or a Governor to whom a bill is forwarded by the legislature to edit, correct, amend or in any manner alter the provisions of any such bill to reflect appropriate intent before assenting to same. “He is to assent in the manner it is or to withhold assent.

He further disclosed that Mr Buhari had communicated his action to the National Assembly on the underlisted Bills earlier transmitted: National Agricultural Seeds Council Bill, 2018; and the Advance Fee Fraud and Other Related Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2017.

The president’s action on the Chartered Institute of Entrepreneurship (Establishment) Bill, 2018, and Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (Amendment) Bill, 2017, were also communicated to both chambers of the assembly.

Others are the Subsidiary Legislation (Legislative Scrutiny) Bill, 2018; National Institute of Hospitality and Tourism (Establishment) Bill, 2018, and National Research and Innovation Council (Establishment) Bill, 2017.

ollah2:
Nomadic politicians like Atiku and Saraki. This is brutality is few words

tech18:
I concur with ur opinion brother.
Considering the giant projects he executed during his time in Kano,he is far better than any of d PDP candidates...

But he is overambitious like Tambuwal and Saraki,and wanted to rule Kano from Abuja(by controlling Ganduje)... He should have wait till 2023 to become VP since d Presidency slot will be zoned to the South.


Kwankwaso ga dukkan alamu zai yi 2:0 ..Ba shi da mangoro ba shi kwallo


PMB till 2023!

mojojesu94:
1. Now, if you don't know the meaning of Isah, and Jesus(greek) means Jehovah our salvation which is Joshua in Hebrew.... How do u relate that to Isah in the Koran.

2. The Jesus that the Koran speaks about is it Jesus Christ or just Jesus, because that may be another issue to settle

WisdomFlakes:
Kwankwaso may be more popular in the North but not as competent as Dankwambo or Atiku. Saraki is on a wild goose chase so he is not even a real contender in my view. I don't know if Kwankwaso can be sold in the South though. Just my two cents.

alhassanyusuf29:
ill just start crying!

mojojesu94:
I have been following the discussion between you and Firebomber, just want to ask out of curiosity.... what is the meaning of the name Jesus.

Firebomber:
Lolz, just see your life, you are using only this tread to justify the action of your Muslim peacefulness, lolz, i guess i should you those Muslim thread that Christian dont comment on to justify that Christian dont insult Muslim. Lolz

Lolz maybe i to should say that Muslim dont comment on Christian tread that dont have any pastor or belief to twist and insult, what a shame.

Some may not call Jesus name but they can call apostle Paul name, lol hypocrite

so because you cannot identify Them make you generalize The as Christian? Hmm interesting.

Lolz, trouble maker indeed Christian are not the one creating a tread and name it Jesus the slave of God, and started misquoteing Holy Bible to support it. Lolz,

"isaabubakar"

Lolz, I never see the guy insulting Islam before, or was it because he is against APC. Lolz

fact is both Muslim and Christian are insulting each other.

Firebomber:
Lolz, lolz, you are asking me of proof when i told you it happened in my area. Lolz.

Well i guess you people think other people are not listening when you people are having your discussion. Lolz

well can you swear with your quran that this your last Ramadan your imam didn't use to bible to justify your clone version of Jesus?

Lolz, you believe in which bible?

I guess you should search for those tread on nairaland that your Muslim created to justify that bible is not the word of God, but now you believe is the the word of God. Lolz.

How can you claim that it was alter and you still claim that it is the word of God? You guys keep contradicting yourself lolz.

You see where i Have problem with you people, you acknowledge that Jesus called on God in the bible, but fail to acknowledge that the same bible explain the reason why he say that, but you people won't see that because it won't suit your agenda.

Lolz tell me if that's not an insult. Lolz.

Peace

Firebomber:
Nothing in a lie here, i live in southwest and the only thing your imam can teach you during last Ramadan is how to lie and insult Christian and Christian belief, in which you hardly see a pastor or church doing that.

Mind you, no one care about your clone version of Jesus but we will have problem when you start misquoteing my own Holy Bible to justify your clone version.

Or have you see Christian group misquoteing your quran to justify Their own Jesus Christ before?

Muslim have been insulting Jesus is the time of the establishment of your Islam by calling him a lier, so pack well.

Well YouTube is filled with a lot of prove so go and get one.

Firebomber:
Lolz, well reality says otherwise, why dont you visit religion section. Well i can count many Muslim tread that make front page and still Christian didn't comment on it, but reverse is the case to you, every Sunday topic Muslim must insult or abuse Christianity,

and when did Islam become tribe?

well i would have agree with you if only you people too resolve issue with atheist when they abuse you instead of draging Christian in to it. I saw your Islamic tread that was abuse on Friday i Personally check the historical comment of majority of the people that abuse it and they where atheist but you people are attacking them as if they are Christian, why dont you check the news that one of your guy posted about a Muslim that want to marry a Christian and confirm.

Lolz, atheist like ollah, Gotv and co right?

Because last i check they are co Muslim claiming to be Muslim, lolz

and mind you Muslim are the one so fun of using other people religious name to insult people, they will even claim to be Christian, have see that many time on nairaland here.

Firebomber:
Lolz,

I guess you should use your brain, why will you use one tread to justify the activities of a whole section?

Lolz, well you people will stop having problem once you can admit that not all non Muslim are Christian.

I guess you cannot deny the fact that Christian is the most abuse religion in Nairaland, by your Muslim brothers and sisters and by atheist, why dont you visit religion section. Lolz

and please where did you get your statistics from?

udemzyudex:
Hahaha, funny bro, this happened in 2014 bro and I know if it was the other way round something will definitely happen.
You need to hear the way he was saying it confidently.
Most of my friends are Muslim(70%), my boss is a Muslim and I also listen to some Muslim preachers on TV too, though I always avoid religious talk with them.

Firebomber:
Common stop pouring trash here jare, I guess you should visit religion section and see how they are calling pastors a prostitute and a fraudster. So what are you saying.