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sleekman:
I suppose everyone has heard about d bird flu currently rocking Lagos? Pls take ur birds 4 tests and don't presume 2 know.

It's fowlpox, revaccinate and give them neoceryl plus.

Op, how did it went?

world1:

My brother.
It's means not only police but army.

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Tnks

dozieihems:
Dear great farmers we are advicing him to reduce the size of the blocks,wht is the standard 4 good air ventilation how many coaches of block is d standard

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The height shud be like 30cm from the floor level.

@Jasper, I came across sth few days ago and I think it might interest you. It's called soil sterilization using black sheets. You can read it up here: https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=soil+sterilization+with+sheet+and+sun&oq=soil+sterilization+with+sheet+and+sun&aqs=chrome..69i57.17335j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8. U may not need it here bc of the time constraint.

PapaBrowne:
I totally agree. Front page kills very valuable threads. Maybe they can frontpage it much later after like 2 months.

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I have similar thing in mind. If u send it to the front page now, it will be filled with a lot of low quality comments from lots of amateurs.

jasper7:
I reject anything that wants to derail this thread. people must benefit from this thread. .

after much bull fight and war, the budget got approved on the Friday the 16th at about. And the money was paid into our account manager's account (kalusam). we were already running a race against time. so we hurriedly sent money to the seed company for the seed and technical support. we also paid for the mulching film, seedling tray, coco peat and organic fertilizer too. To be way-billed to us from far-away Onitsha. that was all we could achieve from Wednesday to Friday.

Please the purpose of this thread is to show intending cucumber farmers that it is not an easy task at all. incase you start feeling that money will fall from heaven to your laps.

Moving On

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Pls, how much was the mulching films? And what is the coco peat used for?

world1:
Hahaha. You better not post again them fit arrest your phone or gigabites ooooo.
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Yeye people with no work to do.
Police ko Army ni.

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And pls, what does the ko and ni mean in this ur sentence? "
Police ko Army ni". I know it's yoruba and I've always wonder the meaning.

I'm just following on the side line.

mercylicious:
@mods, can we make this thread sticky?

Interesting
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Soloxam:
Good morning all, pls let share our experience here, pls we are not here to war against one another, just drop ur points pls.

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I wish the verbal war did not occur. But it's not a good thing to see something wrong and close your mouth. I don't like the way a lot of nigerians look down on theory.
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mercylicious:
@mods, can we make this thread sticky?

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fayahsoul:
Lol i dont need to search for what's right in front of me. Listen, oga stop imagining things. I will continue this discussion with you only if and when you actually start practicals. Anything short of that is an excercise in futility.

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Practical alone won't lead u very far. You need theory too. It's not just about practicing, it is about practicing right.

mercylicious:
i didnt say its fruiting. i said , its growing two small suckers beside the one originally planted. am surprised cos this normally happens during the flowering stage.

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Ok, i was worked up and hungry when I read it. Keep us updated.

In addition to this, Google will be ur friend here. To get ebooks from google, type: filetype:pdf keyword. The keyword stands for anything u are searching, in this case ethanol production, how to produce ethanol from maize, etc.

justified19:
I'm new in d layers biz as well, my birds are 17weeks old, do u av an idea of ow much animal care charge for tests? I'm in ib

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It depends on the disease, newcastle is 2500, crd and IB are 300/bird. Necropsy is 2300.

I'll advice you to read through cassava threads in this forum, you'll gain a lot. http://www.google.com/m?q=site%3anairaland%2ecom%20cassava%20farming&client=ms-opera-mini&channel=new

You can get the address to river basin authorities from this comment: https://www.nairaland.com/1821516/anambra-farmers-lets-meet-here/9#29802725.
I plan visiting them soon.

AreaFada2:
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Maybe that's the first thing to do. Set up co-operatives to raise fund to start a ranch with say 50 Friesian cows and grow. Long & medium term is where the profit would be. There's hardly ever gonna be a time when milk products (fresh, yoghurt, powder, cream, cheese, etc) will not be in demand. Obviously location will matter. Ogun for example will be close to the huge Lagos market. Sure, it will be more difficult compared to poultery, piggery or running a plantain farm. But potential is big.

Power issues can be tackled using a bioreactor. Cows produce lots of dung for the reactor.

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You're on track man, bioreactor/biogas digester sounds sweet.

jethro2:
Extremely low but thats what we have here. Gen Abubakars Farm, Maizube in Minna however have some of the good cows. He uses the cow milk for yoghurt. There is massive oppourtunity in that line

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I visited the farm during my nysc days, though I wasnt opportuned to see the cows. It is a big farm with a big pond where they say contains crocodiles. I also buy the maizube yogurt regularly.

Angoni:
Following with interest. I like the pictures, so please keep them coming, even if for now they only show elephant grass and pests

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This is just great. Such networking is exactly what we need here. Following.

endy247:
@farmtech pls which feed do u use for ur birds, i've abt a thousand birds @ 5weeks and i'm currently using vital feed starter bt i don't want to continue wit it, i heard top feeds is better. Pls ur advice is needed.

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I use mostly vital feed but people say top is better. But the problem is that top is scarce sometimes in my area, so I've not used it. It is more costly too.
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Do you still sell eggs @newparts?

toskilo:
Which antibiotics would clear the fowl pox. Thank you in anticipation.

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Dont waste time, revaccinate immediately. After vaccination you can use neoceryl plus. Check out this link: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/235793441_The_effects_of_vaccination_antibiotic_and_vitamin_therapy_on_some_clinical_parameters_associated_with_natural_outbreak_of_fowlpox_in_chickens

mercylicious:
pavore, always inspiring.

will show this to a friend of mine. he will know d ibo name and know if its found around here in our bushes or gardens.

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I'll also like to see the plant oo. There is a lot of info to explore. Pavore tnks for the tip.

fayahsoul:
This is exactly the problem. A theoretical grasscutter farmer is here lecturing a practical farmer. You really believe that your ebooks has taught you all you need to know about grasscutter farming. well good luck with that. Your ebooks says a "manger" should be used but you dont know how grasscutters eat. In your theoretical mind you think that they will eat from the "manger" like humans eat from a plate. Will you also put grass in a "manger?". Then you talk about resting pad; what exactly is that? what is it made of? pls explain further. Yes literature will tell you that grasscutters are sensitive to cold but does it tell you what the symptoms are? you cant know exactly how sensitive they are to cold unless you observe their response to it. It's quite amusing that you claim to have read far and wide yet you dont know what natural laws are and how they differ from theory. Quietly go and read up on that ok. You also seem to have difficulty with comprehension. Look, i'm not saying research is inconsequential rather i'm saying people shouldnt follow it like zombie. Dont swallow every thing you read hook, line and sinker. Be analytical and observant. The flaws in any given theory becomes apparent when it's being put to practice. na wa o.

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We're not fighting any war here oo. Before I became a practicing poultry farmer, I was telling some practicing farmers mistakes they were making. Being a practicing farmers does not mean u shudnt be open to corrections and suggestions.
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No, my ebks hav not taught me all I need to know about grasscutters or rabbits, but they've thought me a lot. For eg, most practicing grasscutter farmers believe that grasscutter need only the succulent stem from grasses, so they usually strip off the leaves. But I've come across one research that proves this wrong. The leaves are higher in nutrients and lead to faster growth. Grasscutters teeth grow continuously and they need something like wood, twigs to wear the teeths down, so u give it to them.
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Manger: yes, grasscutters and rabbits can comfortably eat from a manger. Although most practicing grasscutter farmers place grasses on the solid floor of their cages, that practice is not better than using a manger. The manger is made of mesh wire and the animals pull the grass through the mesh and it is cleaner this way. For feeding concentrates, you'll have to use a feeding trough made of heavy material like clay. Lighter materials shud to fastened to the floor so they wont knock it over. Another ebook said that feed wastage (concentrate feed) can be greatly reduced by using a deep feed trough. They specified a depth which I can't remember.
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Resting pad: wire floor can sometimes cause footpad injury to heavy animals, so such animals need a resting pad where they can rest on most of the time. Rabbits like the newzealand and california white have become use to wire floor and they dont need resting pads. But u hav to use a thick gauge wire for the floor, one ebooks specified the gauge but I cant recall now. If u like the resting pad can be of hardwood so that they can also use it to wear down their teeth. Or you can use metal or fired clay slabs.
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Sensitivity to cold: bro, it u search for that you'll find it. I dont have time now I would have done that for you.
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Natural law and theories: we're not fighting a war pls, if you use a term in a discussion, kindly define what u mean bc our understanding differs. It's not a matter of reading far and wide and I may not hav the time to search for that.
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That I hav difficulty in comprehension: that's quite a rude way of talking to somebody who's trying to add knowledge to a discussion.
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Dont follow what u read like zombie: you're right, but this also applies to what practicing farmers tells you. It is very wrong to glorify practice and look down on books/theory. Non among the two are greater, they go hand in hand.
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And finally folks, I want to say this again: don't look down on theory, neither shud u look down on practice, dont reveal secrets that when exposed, can threaten ur bizness. Thanks.

toskilo:
Please help. We gave fowl pox vaccine to our birds. This is just their second month into lay and fowl pox has affected the eyes of some of them. Gurus in the house, please advice us of the way out. Thank you.

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Revaccinate.

milvet:
Hello farmtech can u help pls

I don't know much about cassava. Buchika will be in a better position to help. He said that if you don't have a reliable peeling machine, don't go into cassava farming in large scale.

kaybosedemi:
Please, moderators I discovered that I was banned yesterday after making some posts. Kindly let me know what I did wrong so that I will be mindful.

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Check out the rules here: https://www.nairaland.com/1026/nairaland-forum-rules-regulations

fayahsoul:
ok but does your theory tell you the exact size of that square holed mesh wire that's suitable for use in cage construction? Does it tell you that is ok to construct all sides of the cage with said mesh wire? does it also say that grasscutters can lie comfortably on the mesh wire? does it mention any possible problems that the mesh wire could pose when it comes to feeding? nwanne like you rightly said; theory is based on observation which is acquired through practice or experiment and this goes back to what i have been saying all along. Only natural laws are constant and universal. Theory on the other hand can be adjusted and improved on through better practice and technology. Mind you grasscutter is not like goat or chicken or cow and so on that have been domesticated for millions of yrs. It hasnt been up to three decades since Grasscutter farming began and a lot is still not known about these interesting creatures. More, since you agree with me that most successfull practical farmers are unwilling to divulge their secrets then it should also be understood that the reason behind it is the desire to monopilize supply of goods. So if the drive to monopolize isnt driven by selfishness then do tell me what is. lol.

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If I shud go back to my ebooks on rabbits and grasscutter, I'll get all those things u asked. Common sense will also tell u that if the rabbit/grasscutter head can pass through the mesh, then it is unsuitable for the cage. For feeding, u can use a manger, u dont place the feed on the floor bc they'll trample on it and soil it. This can cause disease problem and a lot of wasted feed bc they dont eat soiled feed. If there is problem with foot pad injury due to the floor, u can put a resting pad in the cages. Theory can answer all these questns and more - bc some theories are the experiences of practical farmers in writing, and those experiences contains the natural laws u talked about.
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A saying says that "if u want to hide sth from a black man, put it inside a book". Whoever said this know that it is either a black man will not read, or if he read he'll not believe what he read. So folks, I want to encourage everyone to be a believing and thinking reader.
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Both theory and natural laws (if our definition of natural law is the same) can be adjusted, eg, if ur climate is different from that of the writer, of course the house design and other things have to be adjusted, u may need to cover some sides in cold weathers bc grasscutter are sensitive to cold. The natural law wrt weather in both places are different.
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Revealing or concealing secrets can be a selfish act sometimes, but not at all times. Do you know what glut or oversupply can do to a bizness man? Well, if u discover a secret in bizness, go out and tell everyone. Then wait and expect to keep making profit for the next 4 years. A rich, single player can come in with economics of scale and wipe u out from the biz. I hope u'll understand me better here, I'm not trying to challenge u, but to point out facts we shud do right in order to succeed. U can fail in life if u look down on theory and tell ur farming secrets to everyone. Note: some farming tips are not worth hiding, but those ones that will threaten ur bizness when exposed are worth hiding.

mercylicious:
The villagers are currently selling govt @ agric. I pity d ppl dt are buying dt land.

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How can such a case be reported to the government?

mercylicious:
nice one sha.

land is expensive here in anambra. do u know if govt lease land anywhere- like for ten years? having a farm in d west migh nt be easy for us to run.

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I'll like to know if that is possible.

Nwogbe:
I noticed yesterday that my laying birds of about a yr old wasn't able 2 finish their feed, infact the ate only half of their normal ration. This morning things are still same(low consumption) and hv dropped in production as well. They look quite healthy and are active but I noticed few green droppings in their Penn this morg. What might be wrong with them?
Pls let the gurus in d huz help out here.

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Act fast, u shud hav acted earlier. Give them an antibiotic immediately.

Lesgupnigeria:
Let me know the state are you based so that i can give you contact that will assist you on the procedures to take to be a registered farmer.

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I'm in anambra, thanks a lot.

world1:
My boss thanks sk much am really afraid to post again make I no get banned again.
Am I free to fire on?

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Of course. I'll always unban u. The antibot is not in the hands of the moderators or super mod, but seun. So let's hope it will be updated some day.