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This is how Nigeria's economy will be hospitalised when SHARE THE MONEY PARTY RETURNS TO POWER IN 2019

Johnzzy:
Sorry, but this record was set by GEJ several years ago. Are we celebrating past successes as achievements?

Mad people full APC sha.

GEJ made Nigeria the largest economy in Africa but he handed a bleeding economy on a life support to Buhari

Meanwhile that something the largest doesn't mean it is the best

SAI BABA

Nemesis001:
shut up and tell Nigerians one thing Buhari has achieved.

In his first term he started Lagos - Ibadan Standard gauga railway construction which is over 150km and the project is over 60% completion.

It took OBJ, YAR'ARDUA AND GEJ 16 years to plan and start Kaduna - Abuja railway project yet they couldn't complete it

Ekinematics:
They are Nigerians and have the right to live wherever to wish to within the country. Living in a place doesn't automatically make you an indigene.
Please use your head.

U are the one not using ur common sense,

The descendants of those Igbos who settled in Bonny over hundreds of years back do not have any other HOMETOWN except Bonny..

They do not have any other village than Bonny and their certificate of origin is that of Bonny. They may travel out of Bonny but will always go back there as their hometown during festive periodd.

If u say they are not indigenes of Bonny because they are Igbos then Sultan of Sokoto and Emir of Kano who we all respect and honor as northern leaders are actually not northerners but Fulanis who came and stayed in the north

Ekinematics:
Igbos indigenes in Bonny? Nothing I no go read for this nairaland.

If they are not indigenes why not send them parking?

chukxie:
That's a heavy investment. I would suggest you take it up with the NRC because to the best of my knowledge the railway transportation in Nigeria is run by the government.

Yes the system is operated by the govt and i can boldly say that is the reason it is not efficient and suffers poor maintenance,

The govt workers are mostly there to kill the system by illegally enriching themselves and accuse the govt of not funding the railway sector.

Thanks bro

Nbote:
Are U going to lay ur own tracks as well?

That is why one need NRC approval,

With proper timing and good locomotive, two or three trains can ply the same track

Hello Nairalanders

I have been thinking if it is possible for a Nigerian to bring in a narrow gauge train for transport business and what it will cost the NRC to give the permission to ply their routes.

I have noticed with utmost displeasure the fragile and unstable rail system with Port Harcourt and Aba axis despite great numbers of passengers who uses the train on daily basis.

People get frustrated on daily basis due the poor services by the operators. Sometime its either the train is sick with one mechanical fault or it fell some where along the bushy track and is taking enternity to be lifted or no reason given for it not showing up.

I honestly wish it would be posdible for a private firm to bring in a train and run it privately to make more effective and efficient becaause this so called govt workers are not helping at all

baliyubla:
Sai Baba! (Baba Atiku).

In Naija politics
Sai Baba is only for Buhari

nengibo:
Will it be wrong to say Abriba or Arochukwu is 100 percent Igbo or 100 percent Ibibio?

As kong as there are other tribes in Abriba or Arochukwu, it would be wrong to say it is 100% Igbos.

I wont reply u again

nengibo:
I may have misunderstood you but I am only trying to explain acculturation, take Arochukwu for instance, there are many people of ibibio descent but it will be wrong to call them Ibibio indegens because Arochukwu is an Igbo community, Arochukwu will not become Ibibio land because of the presence of people of Ibibio decent, so it will be wrong to say an Ikwerre community becomes Igbo because of a migrant was acculturated and became king.

The op asked if Bonny people were Igbos since they speak igbo language and i explained that Igbos are in Bonny. It would be wrong to say that Bonny is 100% Igbos or Ijaws because both tribes now made up the Bonny kingdom.

Are you now telling that the Fulanis in the North are no northerners because they not hausa?

nengibo:
this is wrong, Ibani people existed long before the slave trade era, their are no "Igbo" indegenes as those who where not originally of Ibani decent like Ibibio, Ogoni, Okrika, Igbo where all acculturated, just like what happened to Ibibios in Arochukwu, Abriba or the "nwaosu'' people present across Igbo land, the Ibani people have a long kingship, language and ancestry as old as recorded history, thanks.

Maybe you read that post again for better understanding

I never said the Igbos settled in Bonny and Opobo before the slave trade but that they settled there after the trade were abolished.

The people of Bonny and Opobo accomodated them and gave them land to build their houses. The Igbos that settled in Bonny and Opobo are no longer strangers but indigenes.

I even gave an example that a descendant of an Igbo man who was hired as a servant by my great great grandfather is now reigning as the paramount ruler of community as an Ikwerre man

Tushkito:
It doesn't matter what their origin states, this people have made it clear that they want nothing to do with the tag igbo, respect their choice and move on with life abeg.

Majority of those saying that Ikwerres are not Igbos are actually dfescendants of the Igbos......

I never said it depends on " the state of origin" BUT THE ORIGIN. THAT IS TO SAY THE ORIGIN OF OUR EXISTENCE AS A PEOPLE

Meanwhile i am 100% Ikwerre man and can boldly say that I AM AN IGBO MAN

viscerion:
go ahead, analyze, i started my post with we are all here to learn, i know weve thrashed this issue many times but as you see it tends to create more confusion than answers, so i made a simple way to treat it

my mum is ikwerre, and im not denying that they are igbos in rivers and delta states, just that the ikwere n ukwale people are not the igbos in SS. we have igbos in aniocha n oshimili LG in delta, the ukwani are in ndokwa LG, they r a diff tribe

Someone already said that this topic has been treated on this forum before but its obvious that you are here judging by your time of registering on the forum.

So, i will respond based on facts..

1. The origin of Igbos in Bonny and Opobo can be traced to the era of slave trade and the abolishment of the slave trade.

Read here

https://www.nairaland.com/732794/igbos-bonny-igbodefender.com

They were real Igbos who stayed back and settled in Bonny and Opobo after the slave trade was abolished. They are now indigenes of Bonny and Opobo.

In nny own town, a son of a hired servant from core Igboland is now a reigning king of my community and they are now Ikwerre indigenes.

2. The case of Urhobos and Ishkos of Delta is that they both wants to rule themselves and decides what happens in their domain and the sane thing that happened between Ogoni and Eleme people of Rivers state...

Again the same thing was what transpired between the Ikwerres and the Igbos. The Ikwerres were tired of being treated as slaves or servants to the Igbos especially the people of Arochukwu who lorded themselves over the Ikwerres

Late Senator Obi Wali once said that as a little boy, he used to carry his father's chair to the village meeting but as soon as an Arochukwu man arrives at the meeting and there was no seat for him, his father would surrender his own seat to the Arochukwu man and then sat on the floor.

I also remembered when an Igbo man who was not from Rivers state was representing the Ikwerres in the federal house of representatives,

So for that purpose the Ikwerres vowed to cut ties the core Igbos so they can rule thenselves and decide what hapens in their domain. The Ikwerres had to do what they did to be free from intimidations by their Igbo brothers and for politival gains..

3. Calabar was the capital of old Cross River state which the current Akwa Ibom was part of. There were several tribes like Anang, Efik, Ibibio etc. The creation of Akwa Ibom state was not because of tribes or identity crisis but to bring governance close to the people.

Or are you trying to tell us that the Ijaws in Rivers State are different fromt the Ijaws in Bayelsa and other states?

4. It is not by dressing or dancing but the origin. That you now wear shrts,, suits, trousers and dance hip pop, does that makes you an American?

5. Check the meaning of Timi in Ijaw and yoruba if they are the same. Chika is an Igbo and Ikwerre with same meaning

6. Even some part of Abia state either Arochukwu or Ohafia also has link with Bini..

7. Also for the benefit of staying alive, the Ikwerres had no other option but to deny the Igbos during the civil war so federal troops won't wipe them off. Don't forget that the Ogonis and Ijaws already told the federal troops that Ikwerres were Igbos which triggered the killings of innocent and defendless Ikwerres by the Nigerian army until the Ikwerres denied being Igbos.

8. Even Asa in Abia state has different dialects let alone Ikwerre. Igbo language has many sub - languages and each sub - language has many dialects which Ikwerre happens to be one of then.

9. Even the Yorubas, Hausas, Ijaws, Ogonis, Efik calls the Ikwerres Igbos...

TO CROWN IT ALL THE IKWERRES AND IGBOS HAS THE SAME ANCESTRAL GOD CALLED ANADIOHA

bigfish3k:
sorry, i thought u are one of them

Accepted

viscerion:
abi o, its only to insult they know, they cant argue with points, I got these points from another thread from an ikwerre person for that matter

Let us analyse ur points one by one and u would be surprised at the end that u ended making no point.

Meka oh

Alero3Arubi:
Tell them oooo.
They will not hear.
Will soon come to fight and claim nonsense right now.

All what he said are baseless

If u are ready we can talk.

Meanwhile i an Ikwerre guy and the Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandson of EVO

viscerion:
We are all hear to learn, but some group of people are strong headed and hellbent on deceiving others, so this is to prevent deception

To all yorubas, hausas, all northerners, and south southerners, the next time you enter an argument with an Igbo person on whether ikwerre, ukwuani, ika of delta are igbo? just give the igbo person these following points

1.) people of bonny in rivers are ijaw, yet they speak igbo. tribe is not by language
2.)urhobos and isokos of delta are like twins, yet they maintain their status as different tribes, go to warri and see
3.)Ibibio and efik of akwa ibom and cross river despite strong similarities maintain their status as different tribes, it is we outsiders that just grouped all of them as "calabar people"
4.) ikwerre people have as much similarities with ijaw as with igbo, come to rivers and see, ikwerre main dressing and dance like ijaws
5.) yorubas answer timi, ijaw people also bear timi does that make ijaws yoruba?
6.) though not confirmed, they are evidences that show ikwerre and ika of agbor MAY come from Edo, which may explain the name "rumuighoroya"
7.) Even Non Nigerians from togo, ghana e.t.c claim to be Nigerians if it will favour them jobs, admission, social benefits, e.t.c, after all GEJ an ijaw man gave himself azikiwe to get favour from igbos, so dont be surprise when famous ikwerre people all themselves igbo, same people will claim hausa if they can if it will favour them
8.)Ikwerre has different dialects, so ikwerre itself cannot be a dialect under igbo
9.) why is it only Igbo people that keep insisting that ikwerre and ika and ukwani of delta state are igbos, when even the ikwerre, ukwani people dont insist that

i could go on and on, dont be deceived, rumuighoroya meka we

STOP VIBRATING UNNECCESSARILY.


CAN YOU TELL ME THE NAME OF IKWERRE ANCESTRAL GOD?

Meanwhile all u said above is baseless and cannot hold a single drop of water

bigfish3k:
why are u digressing? why always run away from the truth and still call urseves patriot. shame on u all wicked people. the wicked shall never go unpurnished

so u love the killings across the country. HYPOCRYTES

Read what i said on a differnt thread regard what u said above

https://www.nairaland.com/4775230/photo-wike-secondus-looking-angry/3#71886471


I still maintain that those Yoruba leaders are only looking for their own interests and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Out of their selfishness they betrayed MKO ABIOLA and collected bribe from his killers..

They love brown envelop filled with dollars which Atiku is willingly ready to give them

Where they not the same Yoruba leaders who got this envolp from GEJ in 2015?

NwaAmaikpe:


If this is actually true, Then she and Frimpong are fools.

Maybe na wetin come make the guy cry when e kiss her na
U think am na

I can boldly say that Genny is the only celeb my heart beats for

FarahAideed:
APC the party of liars , thieves and Satanists!!!

...
PDP - Power

That power is the money

And when you hear them say
PDP - POWER TO THE PEOPLE

IT MEANS SHARE THE MONEY INCLUDING THE ONES MEANT FOR PROJECTS

apotek:
Tinubu's bawls go dey bigger..
The same nonsense go continue..
Maybe it's time we look beyond PDP and APC

I wish Nigerians can vote Sowore of AAC so we can atleast start to export indian henp so guys can earn dollars or the ANN canditdate or Duke.

I am tired of the killings and northernization of key positions in the govt and i do not wish Nigeria to return to the era of sharing money meant for projects.

As for Tinubu case ehn, na Nigerians go decide em fate since our judiciary no get say

apotek:
Na true nau.. Abi

.
If Atiku win ehn pdp go return to power to share our money again
If Buhari win, wetin go happen?

apotek:
How can Nigerians win when the battle is between 2 devils? Say No To The Establishments!

See na u get ur mouth oh

I still remember when Wike and co were accusing Ameachi of spending Rivers money for his Vice Presidential ambition but today nobody seems to be talking again oh

Thank God Atiku won the pdp presidential primaries.

Saraki can be declared winner of the disputed pdp senatorial candidate of his senatorial district.

Tambuwal can seek a second tern in sokoto and wike can also do the same in Rivers.

The battle is now between Atiku, a fulani man and a retired custom boss and Buhari who is also a fulani man and a retired miitary general and a setting president.


COME 2019 NIGERIA AND NIGERIANS SHALL WIN

arewafederation:
Why is Fashola dressed like an area boy?

I love this spirit of sportsmanship...

Fashola is a man on many duties..

The hug Ambode gave Fashola was a way of telling him( Fashola) is indeed a man because where he ( Fashola ) fought and won, that him ( Ambodr ) tried it but lost

Herdsmen:
A very bad omen for the country.. Introduced by the terrorist party Apc..

Vote buying.. child voters.. mace stealing.. election manipulation..

APC is evil and must be resisted by all well meaning Nigerians..

Not some dead brain things ..

This was in 2015

Righteousness89:
APC won't like this....

For what exactly?

Buhari will beat Saraki black and blue in next year election.

In case u have forgotten let me remind u that the era where pdp write election results in SS/SE are over

gare:
I believe you work in the Police headquarters to have a first hand information, if not why do you believe they wanted to force their way into the Police head quarters to do what, that is the question you should ask yourself

Did they blocked any road?

gare:
You seem to have deviated from the initial conversation, like I will tell you this is not about GEJ, he is not in power, GEJ under performed that was why he was shown the way out, so because GEJ under performed then PMB must do same ?

The initial conversation was about protest right?



So tell me; why would Saraki and co block a major highway and tried to forcefully enter the police headquarter?

Was that how peaceful protest are carried out?