Crime › Re: M.C Fenujawire Attacked By Robbers In Lagos (Disturbing Photo) by femi4: 5:03pm On Jan 07, 2019 |
Genniez: 5am is now a crime to walk.. Shasha home of hoodlums.. Thanks God for life Akowonjo not Shasha |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: What Is The Starting Salary For A Fresh NCE Holder In Private Teaching Job? by femi4: 6:28am On Jan 07, 2019 |
1500/30=N50  |
Education › Re: How Do I Get A Job At An Oil Coy After Graduation by femi4: 6:27am On Jan 07, 2019 |
Amakababe: please advise, I'm a 2nd year Electrical engineering undergraduate in FUTMinna, and i need oil money ooooo while working in somewhere like Chevron and co. what should i be doing now. you have pussy...use it! Get the hr contact |
Celebrities › Re: Niniola Looks Gorgeous As She Bares Cleavage In Jumpsuit (photos) by femi4: 6:13am On Jan 07, 2019 |
Tomboyish nature full her family |
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Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by femi4: 5:27pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Have you all gone nuts?
Is the book of proverbs the law of Moses too? Perhaps, you think everything in the old testament is the law of Moses and should be thrown away. The book of proverbs is the book of wisdom. Throw it away and throw wisdom away too. Lol...the laws goes beyond the 5 books of Moses. The LAW represent all LAWS. In fact the first verse of the chapter you quoted up there says: Prov 3:1 3 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: NB: That was King Solomon, not God/Jesus |
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by femi4: 5:08pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Yes. Look below.
Proverbs 3:9-19 9 Honor the Lord with your substance and with the first fruit of all thine increase. 10 So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. You are quoting the law there. I thought you said it was God's commandments |
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by femi4: 5:03pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Did God respect Cain's sacrifice?
No, he rejected it. God specifically requested for it. Did God give others such instruction God told Abram to sacrifice Isaac Did God give others such instruction |
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by femi4: 4:55pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Nowhere did I say first fruit is full salary.
Giving first fruit is for those who want Gods respect just as Abel got it. God didn't respect those that didn't give abi? You are full of false teachings ....continue |
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by femi4: 4:13pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: We are barely days into the New Year and those against tithe/firstfruits have already started launching their attack on the doctrine. According to these people, the concept of firstfruits is not a doctrine for Christians because we are not under the law of Moses. What they fail to know is that even before the forefathers of Moses were born, God had been collecting first fruits from humans. This post will show that it is God himself that ordained the collection of firstfruits and it is not subject to any law.
The first person recorded to have given first fruit or firstling is Abel the son of Adam and Eve. He and his brother Cain were told to do so By God.
Genesis 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
You see, whenever we mention Abel as someone who gave first fruit way before the law of Moses, all those anti-tithers love to give excuses to rubbish such point. One of the excuses they give is that God didn't command or order him to bring any first fruit, which means he did it of his own free will. Before I show you that it is God that commanded Abel and Cain to make that sacrifice, I will first of all like to show you that these anti-tithers understand nothing about the Bible. They don't understand because they lack the spirit of God, that's why someone can deceive them easily against tithing.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
They lack the spirit of God, that's why they don't understand the word of God which is spiritually discerned. Now, let me show you that God gave the command for Abel and Cain to offer sacrifice unto him. See what the Bible said below.
Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
Did you notice the words in bold above? The above verse says Abel offered sacrifice to God by faith. This means he believed in the word of God and proceeded to offer the sacrifice. This clearly shows that the word of God told him to do what he did, meaning he didn't do it if his own free will. See what the Bible says about faith and the word of God below.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
As seen above, you can't have faith without hearing the word of God. Now, if the Bible in Hebrews 11:4 says Abel had faith in God towards offering a sacrifice, then it means he heard the word of God telling him to offer the sacrifice. He heard the word of God and had faith in it which made him carry out the command.
It's now ridiculous for people who lack understanding of the Bible to sit somewhere and start saying God never commanded Abel to bring first fruits or firstlings. They read the Bible like it's a romance novel, that's why they never grab anything from the word which is spirit.
It is that same practice of Abel that Abraham followed, his grandson Jacob followed and also the children of Israel under the law of Moses. God is still the same yesterday, today and forever. He change not. If he collected first fruit from the people of old even way before the law of Moses, then what makes you think he has changed?
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD , I change not;
Yes, I understand that many are angry that today's pastors have abused this doctrine and have enriched themselves with it to the point of living in opulence and flying in jets. But that doesn't mean we should throw away the doctrine which is the word of God. Throwing it away because of them is like throwing away the baby with the bath water.
If you feel your church is one those who have abused this doctrine, then find another church which hasn't; they exist. Mind you, not all churches are really the house of God. As long as the message they preach is works based salvation and not saved by grace alone, then such is not the house of God. Such churches are an example of Cain and his offering. That is why most people who pay first fruits there are not really getting blessed. Let me show you why they are Cain.
Remember we established above that it was the word of God that made Cain and Abel make sacrifice unto God. But how come God rejected Cain's sacrifice but accepted Abel's?
Cain failed to follow instruction given by God's word. How do we know what this instruction is? We know this from Abel's sacrifice which the Bible says God had respect for. Abel made a blood sacrifice unto God, he sacrificed a lamb. Had it been Cain did the same thing, his sacrifice would have been accepted too. Rather, he offered fruits of the ground while Abel offered the blood of a lamb which represents the blood of Jesus Christ who is this Holy Lamb.
Cain's offering was based on his works. He thought if he offered an offering based on his sweat of tilling the soil and harvesting the produce, God will be more pleased by his effort. He failed to obey simple instruction of offering blood sacrifice, instead he relied on his WORKS. His sacrifice represents work based salvation, hence the reason why God rejected it.
Abel on the other hand followed the instructions God gave. He didnt rely on his works but relied on the blood of the lamb which is the same as relying on the blood of Jesus which was sacrificed on the cross. That is what God wants us to do today. But these dubious churches have changed the gospel and are now selling a work based salvation where people No longer rely on the sacrifice of Jesus but on their works of righteousness or their ability not to sin. They have turned their congregation into people who will present works of righteousness which the Bible calls filthy rags before God as their means of salvation.
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;
They do not know that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. And it is not of our works lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
So, if your church is telling you that you can lose your salvation and that salvation involves works, then that is a clear pointer that such a place is not the house of God. That is why the pastors of such churches are very wealthy because they do not believe in God and have fleeced the sheep to stupor. If you continue to give your money whether in offering, tithe or first fruit, just know that your money is not reaching God. It's the same as going to GTBank to send Money to me when I don't bank with them. The money won't get to me. You have to look for the right bank which I have an account with before I can receive the money.
To all those who go about telling people Not to pay tithe or give Money to church, be careful or else God will descend on you.
Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
You know little about God's word yet you are going about persuading people to disobeying him. If you have decided not to pay to churches, so be it. But going about telling others to do the same is very dangerous.
Many will come to this thread to try to rubbish it by saying I'm a pastor trying to defend my cake. I'm not a pastor neither do I have a church. People who make such claims only do so to prove they are on the wrong. They attack the messenger while they neglect the message. That is being guilty. Firstfruit was never WHOLE fruits or ALL fruits. Giving the WHOLE of your Jan. salary is a fallacy to what "FIRST" fruit stand for. So what is Firstfriut? Firstfruit refers to the Best of your Fruits. Abel gave to God his "Best".....likewise CAIN claimed that he did. Your FIRSTfruit is your BEST fruit and it should be determined and given cheerfully Having said that, it was an instruction directed to CAIN and ABEL at that particular point in time. It is not a LAW that every believes must observe |
Celebrities › Re: Teni Gets Emotional As She Wins Best New Act At Soundcity MVP Awards (Photos) by femi4: 3:04pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
Onyi22: Let her continue getting emotions y it last, very soon she will return back to where she came from...... Rubbish, Shapeless dirty Yoruba poo, always singing trash..... your two left legs like tubers of yam |
Sports › Re: Mikel Obi Quits Tianjin Teda, Chinese Club by femi4: 3:27pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
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Celebrities › Re: Laura Ikeji Looks Gorgeous In Bikini As She Shares Adorable Poolside Photos by femi4: 1:14pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
Nairatrend:
you will soon slide the Dm to ask for money  Beggars no dey give now |
Celebrities › Re: Allwell Ademola: I Fell In Love With Our Best Man After I Lost My Fiancé by femi4: 9:18am On Jan 05, 2019 |
[quote author= post=74462049] It's true, he was my best friend, he has been my friend first even before I met my fiance, so I plan to make my best friend the best man at my wedding.Why don't she just married marry him from the start?! Na wa for both of una o![/quote]  "didn't she" is more appropriate |
Celebrities › Re: Allwell Ademola: I Fell In Love With Our Best Man After I Lost My Fiancé by femi4: 8:28am On Jan 05, 2019 |
etrange: You have a point but it's not always that easy. My bestie is a lady. I almost don't even see her as a woman anymore.  tomboy I guess |
Education › Re: Why Does A Dead Body Float In Water, While A Live Body Sinks? by femi4: 8:20am On Jan 05, 2019 |
ProsperChild: First of all this is a nice question hope u guys satisfy with my answer there are so many explanations of floating deadbodies in water ….I want explanation to be simple and liable for study ……
Biological reason of floating deadbodies...
Who can crack this mystery. According to Archimedes principles and law of flotationThe body is denser than water it sinks. While at the bottom of the water, gases which are lighter than the water build up in the dead body n make the body less dense. After some time, the weight of the body becomes less denser than the water hence the body floats. |
Education › Re: Why Does A Dead Body Float In Water, While A Live Body Sinks? by femi4: 8:18am On Jan 05, 2019 |
chiommy123: Here to learn from them masters. And why does someone that drown need days to float decomposition take days |
Celebrities › Re: Allwell Ademola: I Fell In Love With Our Best Man After I Lost My Fiancé by femi4: 8:14am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Women and the cliché: "You are my best friend, I cant marry you"
By default, the best person to marry should be your best friend |
Music/Radio › Re: New Single (celebrity Diva) by femi4: 7:09am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Hope it doesn't sound like "She's such a diva" from one unambitious nl |
Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Named Player Of The Year At Globe Soccer Awards (Photos) by femi4: 2:11pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
Evangkatsoulis: How? Uefa men player of the only started in 2011, yet people now see it as "European best". These bodies do not have an real metric that can determine who the best players are or not. Captains and coaches of national teams do not cut it for me. FIFA and UEFA are more or less Regulatory bodies. They do not have any authority to say who is best or not. That's why FIFA signed a deal with france football because they knew BALLON D OR was becoming more popular than FIFA awards. The Ballon d'Or (French pronunciation: [balɔ̃ dɔʁ]; "Golden Ball"  is an annual football award presented by France Football. It has been awarded since 1956, |
Celebrities › Re: Adediwura Becky 2001 Throwback Vs 2018 Pictures. "How I Take Get Big Breast?" by femi4: 1:45pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
kolafolabi: Two things are involved - Breastfeeding and weight gain That's it |
Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Named Player Of The Year At Globe Soccer Awards (Photos) by femi4: 1:40pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
Evangkatsoulis: All na the same. The difference only lies in mind of the public. Abi why should France football MAGAZINE award be taken more seriously than say BBC award or any other award? They are the pacesetter |
Politics › Re: Benue PDP Bury Members Who Died In Accident While Going 2 Campaign Rally by femi4: 1:36pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
Is there politics in heaven? what's the importance of the pdp flag |
Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Named Player Of The Year At Globe Soccer Awards (Photos) by femi4: 1:28pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
All these plastic awards....if its not FIFA or Balon Dior, forget it! |
Romance › Re: Apostle Chris Omatsola On Sex Scandal: "We Made Over 10 Sex Videos" by femi4: 1:27pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
aonag: we came here for the sextape ooo Where were you in 2018 |
Romance › Re: She Wants To Tie Me Down With Marriage. Should I End My 2-Year-Old Relationship? by femi4: 11:27am On Jan 04, 2019 |
Driggs: I am not ready for commitments and I told my girl to chill for some more time.. I am an ambitious young man and I must own the world before I decide to marry.. My kids must chop life pass DJ Khalid pikin..
She agreed and everything is fine.. She's not a beggy beggy slayqueen.. She works with Oando. Lately, I was robbed and my belongings was carted away.. So, I had to use her phone to contact my parents so they can know I am fine until I retrieve my SIM.
Fast forward to yesterday, my mom called and asked me about the "nice girl who has been calling her and sending her massive airtime". I was dumbfounded and just hung up.. I called Lillian and she was all teary on the phone when I confronted her saying "she just wanted to be friendly with her "mother-in-law" blah blah..
That was when I flared up. It was like rubbing salt on an Okada accident wound..
She's been calling and I am not picking.. My mom's been calling too, I guess she's explained the situation to her..
A lady that is so desperate to tie me down with marriage by doing stuffs I didn't bargain for can go ahead and tie my destiny later..
Should I flee? Should I give her another chance? That's gold you want to throw away |
Crime › Re: Nigerian Kidnapper Who Broke Out Of Jail In Ghana, Recaptured. Photo by femi4: 11:20am On Jan 04, 2019 |
Etuk  |
Family › Re: Couple Welcome Quadruplets After 12 Years Of Waiting (Photo) by femi4: 9:49am On Jan 04, 2019 |
IVF crew ....coming through |
Celebrities › Re: Roman Goddess Attempts To Break The Internet As She Unleashes Her Eye-popping by femi4: 9:47am On Jan 04, 2019 |
Attempts to break  Nice attempt.....promoted to the next class! |
Romance › Re: 10 Little Things Men Do That Melts Every Womans Heart by femi4: 9:45am On Jan 04, 2019 |
Slavery points |
Celebrities › Re: The Day Banky W Introduced Wizkid & Skales To Nigerians In 2010 (Throwback Photo by femi4: 9:43am On Jan 04, 2019 |
His retirement plans retired him |
Romance › Re: Heeeeeelp! I Love My Wife But.... by femi4: 9:35am On Jan 04, 2019 |
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