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agaugust:
[s] Most of DENEL production is Rifles and MRAPs...LOL...DICON Nigeria produces rifles too, and NA Engrs produce APC, Proforce building our MRAP.

So where is all your so called indegenous South African Hi-Tech stuff? Plenty of European owned equipment, radars, advanced ammunition, electronics and optronics, Brazilian missile technology transfer, Finland's Badger IFV tech transfer....

90% of South African defence industry is OWNED by EUROPEAN COMPANIES ! Fact !!!

South African claims of owning advanced defence industry is FAKE !
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All this amount to garbage, there is nothing that foreigners produce from SA defence industry. All those European companies bought existing South African companies which were already actively in service manufacturing their products. BAE, SAAB and Thales all bought SA companies which were actively in business producing their weapons. They merely bought those companies because they were their competitors. That's all.

Patchesagain:
South Africa remains the top FDI destination in Africa, you ignorant man of Lagos enclave.

No one is going to want to do buisness in Nigeria because of your behavior

Simple facts

After what Nigeria has done we will surely double Nigeria's FDI.

agaugust:
More investors are rushing into Nigeria, you ignorant local man of Gauteng enclave.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/manufacturing/190957-50-french-companies-on-first-of-a-kind-business-trip-to-nigeria.html

As for South Africa, it's payback time, now you broke our law and we will milk you dry till Mama Soweto's titties have no more milk

Nigeria is sucking $5 billion cash out of South Africa's pocket in one day.....close to christmas time dude, we will eat your dollars
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Your action has now taken a different approach which will see Exodus of investors in Nigeria.

Your government has raised a red flag to slaughter investors. Most of Buharis adminittators are uneducated Northerners who do not understand the value of investment. Jonathan was sacrificed for mediocrity.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/nigeria-risks-investment-it-can-t-afford-to-lose-with-mtn-fine

Forbes noted that foreign investors have lost confidence on Africa's biggest economy. Could SA use that to their advantage?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peteguest/2015/10/30/does-mtns-5-2bn-fine-signal-a-more-inward-looking-nigeria/

stillchris:
Fool. I see your illiteracy is yet to improve.

Every investor staying is showing concerns because Nigeria is yet to have an economic team.

mtn will pay and there's nothing you can do about it

MTN will pay yes, but FDI will be left to suffer. Investors have lost confidence on Buhari's administration.

iblawi:
Keep deceiving yourself.

Any country that harms FDI is set to lose big time.

An American detailing how you stand to lose big on FDI.

https://asokoinsight.com/news/nigeria-risks-fdi-with-unprecedented-5-billion-mtn-penalty/

iterator24:
lol... keep deceiving yourselves. there are countless unregistered [active] and pre-registered sim cards in SA.. even mtn, cell c tweaks for free browsing..

you don't know nigerians...

You are a terrific and pathetic liar. Your line will never be allowed the network unless is registered liar.

iblawi:
This has been going on for years but your executives want to keep making money.

That is a big fat lie. I watched the news last night where Vodafone COO detailed it the way we come to understand it. All operators where given seven days to deactivate unregistered sims from their databases, the task which he said would require at least a month to accomplish. A short notice which speaks volume about sabotage.

iblawi:
We don't hate MTN and that is fact.

Everything that happened is just the consequences of their action.

Tell Zuma to come beg Buhari maybe he will reduce the fine.

MTN is said that will close down their Nigerian business should NCC fail to heed to their demands with Airtel said will as well follow the suit.

iblawi:
Just answer this simple question pls

Does MTN have unregistered subscribers in South Africa?

The answer is no, because MTN SA has brilliant engineers and leaders. Moreover, SA government never rushed in operators to do miracle in seven days.

There is association of foreign investors in any country and obviously victimization of MTN will create a bridge in between them.

Your economy shall be left in mercy of Dangote and others whose money will only equate to peanuts to take care of such huge population.

iblawi:
I want to believe you don't know what you are saying.

I will take it that you have never gone to school or either you jumped out of the window and never returned again. FDI plays a major role in any developing economy. Without it, your government will never see oil.

iblawi:
You guys just proved how incompetent you are. Glo, etisalat, airtel and others have Nigerian engineers. So how did they meet up. You people lack analytical skill.

So, you admit that it is a sabotage on the part of your government.

iblawi:
And you were tot that only foreigner's investment can take a nations GDP above the GDP of Luanda fool. South African trained economist.

Bwahaha… take everything foreign in Nigeria and see it skydiving to earth with a speed greater than that of gravitational acceleration.

Where will you get all the computers, cellphones, cars, etc? You will fall …

mzilakazi:
SA technologists and engineers have criticized Nigeria's trained half baked engineers for their slow technical action of deactivating sims and have suggested that instead they could have shut down all the users' sims and activate only the ones properly registered by taking their time.

MTN hopefully realises that instead they could have hired SA based engineers, but now that they wanted to create jobs in Nigeria they ended up with half-baked fake engineers. Nigerian trained engineers are truly a disaster to hire.

Bwahahaha… surely NCC knew the nature of the quality of engineers Nigeria have. They knew they have engineers who are not innovative and who could take ages to deactivate the unregisted Sims. They knew before hand that the money was already on their pockets due to the kind of training Nigerian engineers received. However, that action of Nigeria has already been criticized worldwide and could land them in hot water.

iblawi:
Just confirmed now that MTN was charged $1000 for every unregistered Sim.

You can see that you are the fool. A nation should sacrifice it's security cos of Fraudulent investors.

You are so dull that I wonder if you are educated.

Even without investors, Nigeria's economy will never fall below that of SA again not to talk of Djibouti Dillard.

Didn't they teach you that GDP is called gross domestic product and it is stimulated by investment and without it you will even fall below the GDP of Luanda.

agaugust:
[s]1. SANDF has NO single AHEAD ammunition today 2015. Your GDF-005 is a 30 year old 1985 weapon

2. Bofors is still manufactured today 2015, Sweden mounts Bofors 40 mm on their current 2015 CV90 IFV....you olodo

3. Show us source to prove Nigeria has 16 units of GDF 002

5. Our total number of guns is classified, nobody in public knows how many Bofors, GDF 002, and Type 90 that Nigeria has.

SANDF air defence system kills it's own soldiers, the enemy aircraft does not even need to attack, your own GDF 005 attacks and wipes out your own army gun operators.....modernized for suicide

"9am when a battery from 10 Anti-Aircraft Regiment in Kimberley began a live-fire exercise at the Army Combat Training Centre at Lohatlha as part of the SANDF's Exercise Seboka. By the time the gun had emptied its twin 250-round auto-loader magazines, nine soldiers were dead and 11 injured. It appears as though the gun, which is computerised, jammed before there was some sort of explosion and then it opened fire uncontrollably, killing and injuring the soldiers."

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/9-killed-in-army-horror-1.374838

SANDF has ZERO air defence capability

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Nigeria has only 16 GDF-002, ask sipri.

The most respected general of Nigerian armed forces and Nephew of the renowned artist Fela Kuti has been jailed for losing to Boko Haram.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/nigerian-general-jailed-losing-battle-boko-haram-34544226

agaugust:
F-7NI costs $15 million. Gripen C costs $40 million . Both prices dated back to NAF and SAAF purchase dates of contract.

How does 1 Gripen buy 10 F-7 ?

Bwahahaha…

F7 jet cost just less $5 million a unit. It unit price ranges from $3-$5 dollar. Gripen cost $68 million a unit. You are a fool and that's why I specifically found you a website dedicated to fools like you


http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/06/07/fighter-jet-worlds-top-10-best-sellers.aspx

Skyshield GDF-007 comes complete with AHEAD anti aircraft guided missiles with the range of 8km. That is exactly what SANDF will be having in 2017.

Seems our fake military analyst has gone wrong again. Bofors aircraft guns can only shoot up to the range of 4km, not fictitious 12 Km.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/sweden_swedish_military_army_light_heavy_weapons/l/70_l70_l-70_bofors_40mm_automatic_anti-aircraft_gun_air_defence_system_technical_data_sheet.htBofors

agaugust:
As a military analyst, I confidently tell you that nobody in the public has details of Nigerian GDF whether 002 or 005 versions, their total numbers are also classified so nobody knows how many units we have.

Wanna bring up missiles? We are talking guns. No need to repeat Roland SAM, Blowpipe SAM, SA-7 SAM missiles of Nigeria. South African Starstreak is a joke and Umkhobto army version is still under development. Nothing in SANDF can match NA Rolands.



Nigerian systems details are not fully known, we bought Type 90 anti-aircraft guns circa year 2005, that's a modern weapon, so your Skyshield is NOT better.

Also, we have 40mm Bofors anti-aircraft with superior range more than 3 times that your GDF series.

Nigeria has Bofors with 12 km range, your South African GDF range is 4 km only



The series of Nigerian GDF is not known, they could be 005 series.

Nobody has numbers of Nigerian anti-aircraft guns, it's classified information.

We have more types of AAA guns than you, SANDF has only GDF, but Nigerian army has GDF, Bofors, Shilka, and Type 90.

FYI, SANDF GDF guns and Skyguard are a failure, your guns kïll yöur own SANDF soldiers instead of killing enemy aircraft.

You have a useless malfunctioning air defense system in SANDF, Nigerian Alpha jets will räpe your army to death
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Your air defence system is old chief. Your missiles are obsolete.

You are a cheap fake military analyst indeed. If the public and yourself know nothing about their 16 GDF-002 why do you even utter a word about them? You should have just shut that your stinking mouth for once because you are now contradicting yourself that nobody on the public domain know anything about the equipments used by Nigeria's air defence. So shut the hell up and let us to do the talking because we have the full details of our GDF while you are in the dark.

agaugust:
Nigerian army has many weapons and equipment not known to 99.9% of the public, not even recorded on SIPRI or UN arms log.

Nigeria has GBADS and a data link system not fully explained for public information.

Nigeria has zero data link. Which data link do they use because we have only few data links in the world? LINK-16 maybe?

NATO countries will never sell you data link even if you like because you will intercept their communication and even spy on them. SA has trued to acquire it for years until CSIR came with their own indigenous TDL. We can now even incept Link-16 without them intercepting ours.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-ZA

Patchesagain:
Boko Haram of 4000 men with no tanks/heavy weapons/air support stole over 40 towns and cities from 20 000 of you


What then do you think will happen when you face the SANDF? We are better equipped, armed and trained.

Nigerian military has war history against only rebels. They have never fought against another country which is equally or better equipped than them.


SA fought against German troops, Russia, Angola, and Cuba all of which were countries which had Navies, Air forces with modern fighter jets and Armies which were well equipped.

How do you judge your military progress against rebels and still see it as the best when you have never faced a capable enemy that levels or is above your size? It is like you will become an adult who will go around boasting about his prowess in the face of children and yet don't pick people your own size.


Such militaries do not stand in history books.

Patchesagain:
12-16 units of GDF-02
v
102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units.
Gee I wonder who wins
FYI, yours are ancient, ours are Skysheild. Get your facts straight

NA air defence is down and out.

agaugust:
SAAF arrived with air support and landed Gripen jets, Rooivalk helicopters, etc in Congo airport withing striking range of Bangui to blow Seleka's head, but your army refused to reinforce and the troops hiding under French soldiers ampits demanded to be allowed to escape back home to sleep with their wives....SANDF chickened out of the new MoU mandate to protect propert and save lives in C.A.R.

Go read Nigerian military history of Liberian and Sierra Leonean wars.

SANDF works under the command of the president who in turn has to receive guidance and approval from Parliament. We don't decide on our own to fight, there has to be the order to do so. If we fight on our own orders, who will finance the war and provide us with reinforcements? Parliament refused to support the SANDF countinued stay in CAR and immediately ordered for their withdrawal. ECCA also supported that decision.

I know Nigeria troops do not need orders from anyone to fight. That's why they go around torturing and beheading innocent people on the street.


http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/3d7366804f23615c912d9b1e5d06aea0/Most-of-SANDF-troops-out-of-CAR--20130404

agaugust:
Let me remind you that Nigerian army has forced Boko Haram to stoop low to this level and we will do same to SANDF
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In your dreams!!!

We are not BH, we are the military that has AF, Navy and Army and weapons which you do not even have. BH with only handful of weapons let you to jump the fence and teamed up with your friends in what you called Joint task force just to defeat it.

agaugust:
My pleasure....

Nigerian army Skyguard GBADS systems unknown to the general world until revealed by bidexii few months ago.

NA beats SANDF in air defence systems
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Your air defence system is outdated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Army_Air_Defence_Artillery_Formation

agaugust:
Your useless SANDF and Special forces allowed Seleka to take over C.A.R.

Your useless SANDF 21 battalion and SF allowed Rhino poachers to rule SADC.

Cameroon has always had a NATO power inside their country from before till after their independence, France has permanent military base in Cameroon. As a sovereign nation, Cameroon is free to invite America to join France. It's none of our business.

Last time Chad, Cameroon, Niger were making YouTube videos for BBC claiming they were saving Nigeria instead of blocking their borders to stop escaping Boko Haram fighters being pursued by a rampaging Blitzkrieg of the Nigerian black Napoleons, you were praising Chad and Cameroon, now Boko Haram has relocated to those countries, and I no longer see you praising them.

Your foolish praise brought them to the point of accepting American troops in their soil. Sure Cameroonian and Chadian armies enjoyed the January-April praises of rëtardëd ïmbëciles like you...now they are in trouble for their glory hunting during Nigeria's final offensive.

Law of Karma.

SANDF special forces were not send to stop coup d'etat from happening, you useless fake military researcher.

France were entrusted with keeping peace but you won't say anything about how they neglected their responsibility of abandoning their posts.

Let me remind you that we can never stoop to this level that you see under.

agaugust:
Jane's defense 2015 report says SAAF drone inventory has been closed down, you are posting old photos of retired dead drones.

That Vulture drone photo in the bush, does your air force wear that uniform and operate inside the bush to fly drones?

The drone is CONFIRMED as army drone....

"The Vulture UAV will serve as the airborne forward observer for the artillery arm of the South African Army"

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/sandf-to-receive-first-unmanned-air-vehicle-later-this-year-2004-03-26

SAAF has no drone.

You don't even know the difference between an army man and air force man IN YOUR OWN SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY where you claim to be an officer.

Now we all know you are fake !

We all wear the same camo in all arms, Army, Navy, Air force and special forces. Yes, our Air force wear same uniform and work in the bush. Even though that were not Airforce on that picture of soldiers preparing vulture drone for a take off does not mean SAAF does not wear camo.

The seeker 1 of the now dedunct 10 squadron in Potch belonged to the Air force and were again put into use to patrol our borders.

SAAF wearing camo.

agaugust:
With your Gripen pilots not combat qualified? No.

1 Gripen is worth 10 F7 Gripens

Dont reduce the thread into some fiction. The unit price of gripen can without any doubt buy you 10 F7 jets.

agaugust:
Same army drones....you dummy.

Your BSc military science degree certificate paper should be used by groundnut sellers to wrap and sell roasted groundnuts
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Does Nigerian army not have a drone? I can also equally say that. The drones were used by 10 squadron (SAAF, Potchefstroom) and are now used by the army. Who cares by the way who use them? For so long they belong to SANDF.

Bwahahahaha…