₦airaland Forum

Myer:
What makes you think either was untrue?
At the end of the day, it's our prerogative to do with information whatever we please especially in a country where it isn't regulated.

Point is, some persons whether IPOB or others hijacked the protest and it exploded into a wild fire that cascaded burnt autopsy centre.

You have to agree by now that people should be blamed and held accountable when they err.

Wether both are true or untrue what did the authorities do about it? All these blame trading , you know the true vandals of lagos. If you live around Agege, it was the area boys that were vandalizing properties. They were the ones that burnt the police station. It wasn't any ipob or igbos . I haven't sited lots of examples where these guys perpetuated their acts on these days. Go there and ask for yourself.
That brought me to saying we will not say the truth to ourselves but use blames to hide the truth

Are you holding people accountable or witch hiunting ?

NinjaMetahuman:
lmao

So who do you think are they blaming? Average Joe on the street? and not those who encourage the protest and failed to say anything when the looting started?

You think when they throw blame, they be like oh it's Omar across the street responsible for the BLM that looted the entire neighborhood and not the leaders of BLM and celebrities that encouraged it?

Lmao once again.

BLM became violent when they killed George Floyd, what's your point?

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At the attached. You could see how it's being said . Yes, looting occurred and all but did you see them blaming the movement itself?

I had said earlier. Protest could either go two ways: peaceful or violently. BLM largely started with George Floyd and became a looting spree along the line. The instigators of this Movement were not accused for the spree. They knew it was a Movement hijacked

Myer:
There was a leaked recording of incitement by POB to wreak havoc in Lagos and Rivers states. You didn't get that?

Trading blames is counter-productive when accountability is not in place. If that is your point, then you're right.
Accountability is the most important thing.

Leaked recording? There was also a leaked recording of boko haram infiltrating lagos. .

If blames would fix a country. Nigeria would be the best country in the world

Myer:
We should not be quick to trade blames. But it's important to know who is responsible for good or bad occurrences/happenings for accountability purpose especially.

As you've rightly said, ENDSARS protest started well and was an honorable protest that was a necessity. And it was peaceful for the first few days. It actually achieved it's purpose of calling out the government for bad governance and putting an end to the excesses of SARS. Buhari and his cabinet actually responded, addressed and met the demands of the protest.
ENDSARS was decommissioned and they promised to meet the other demands which some were short term and others were long term.

But the youths did not disperse but continued in the protest until it was hijacked by the IPOB mercenaries who saw an opportunity to execute their own agenda of destroying Nigeria and especially Lagos state.

The consequences of which as Mynd44 rightly pointed out, was the burnt down Lagos State autopsy centre which has delayed Mohbad's investigation and apparently countless others.

Every action and inaction has consequences. And the heroes and villains must be Praised and blamed respectively.

For all the cases you highlighted, should they not be blaned?
Should past government administratiins not be blamed for handing over a dilapidated country?
If Tinubu's administration performs well, should he not be Praised? And if he performs poorly agter his tenure, should he not be blamed?

What we should demand is that beyond the blame and praises, is their accountability?
Are people being recognised and rewarded for good performance?
And are people being punished/sanctioned for badpoor performance?
And is their reward or punishment commensurate with their performance?

You are right but i will disagree with the bolded statements.
Except we want to deceive ourselves. The vandalism was largely carried out by "yoruba" ask the people around oyingbo who burnt the brt busses . Same with Agege police station, same with the magistrate court, igbosere . Around my area I have seen these boys vandalise during the lockdown . During the time of the protest I had seen them hitting a streetlight at Ojuelegba while i drove by, they were yoruba.
Also the name calling is unnecessary, throwing shades at a particular tribe isn't okay . It has some tribalistic undertone .



@ the second bolded . We have burnt trading blames since independence.
Where has it gotten us? Of what use is the blame trading? If you have a lady that blames everyone for her misfortune, will you go ahead to marry her?

NinjaMetahuman:
and what makes you think they are not trading blames in America after the BLM looting?

You think the communities looted for not reason by these BLM protesters are not suffering today?

We don't see them blaming Eminem or Beyonce for the movement. Every protest could either go two ways, peaceful or violent.

The endsars protest didn't become violent till the lekki toll gate thing

Myer:
Should people only be praised when they do right but not be blamed when they err?

We should know when to trade blames . By default, Nigerians will be quick to blame rather than find the root cause . Look around you, check all the mess we are in as a country and see how we always blame it on something or someone.

Present government blames Buhari.
Epileptic power supply throws blames
Military will throws blames
Rising cost of inflation throws blame
Health sector throws blame on japa doctors.
We are even throwing blames on tribes lately .
And so many more. It's always a blame game. We are so always quick to blame just to spite one another .

If the motive of the protest was to destroy properties, it would started immediately the protest began. It took days before it took that violent turn and it wasn't after the Lekki toll gate incident.

Mynd44:
Lets start with this.

The most equipped forensic lab in west Africa was built by Lagos state government. During the chaos of the I'll advised EndSARS riots/protests with this same Omolola Pero took part in, that lab was burnt.

What this has caused is that the autopsy has to ne done abroad with money the government have to source for and it will take time.

It is time we understand that our actions have consequencies

Very unfortunate about the forensic lab. I just couldn't understand the reason behind burning it . I question the effect of burning tires not to talk of infrastructures. It never made sense to me to vandalize all these in the name of protest


I guess they were just burning anything related to lagos as the protest was hijacked by illiterate touts .

If you will remember the "George Floyd " movement, the BLM movement . Almost every blacks and celebs participated in the protest. Some people decided to take advantage of the situation to break into shops and steal things.

We just like to trade blames in this parts of the world. The bolded part was unnecessary.

Irony1:
Your moniker says a lot about your personality. You guys just wake up and compose rubbish.

Very stupid thing to say. I have been saying it that the cruise we are catching in the name of tribalism will one day blow violently into our face. If that guy had said that close to some angry people, he might have been dealt one or two blows.

What a rubbish thing to say?

What kind of news is this? Isn't this a normal human gesture? What's special about that?

SALLYBERRY01:
I suspect politics cos why always quilox

Why would you? I understand Nigeria with its "anyhowness" bit we shouldn't encourage some narratives. People have always complained about the club concerning traffic. A video was viral this morning about it. That is enough to caution Quilox.

Let's assume it was witchhunting sef, he gave his enemy a valid reason to go after him

Paramount01:
The greatest archivemnet of any ma of God is the number of souls gained through you, not to even mentioned miracles God have used him for, some of the minor prophest don't even performed any miracle but we're regarded as prophet on wha they hear from. God, oga! God has been talking to hi and he will still talk to him

God doesn't and won't talk to you but only through few people you call pastors?

Okay. It's alright. Heavenly race is an individual thing.

Paramount01:
So Elijah is the least prophets or what, what Adeboye have archived in Christiandom some prophets never achieved it before they die, I knwo you a Muslim for you not to even knwo the arrangement of prophets in the bible

Which of the prophets ? It is how you will compare Adeboye with prophets in the bible.
By the way? If I may ask, what has Adeboye achieved?

Having a large congregation?

Paramount01:
From your respond I knwo you are a Muslim.
People we regard as prophets now are mere man like Adeboye, if Adeboye had exist during the days where that account of Bible is been writen, Adeboye name would have been their

Adeboye's name would have been there as what exactly? I can't speak for God. What I can do is to compare the least of prophet with Adeboye . Does he measure up to prophet Elijah,

Justiceleague1:
The oba decides to honour God by giving the seat to God's servant,pastor Adeboye.. ordinary man like you dey put mouth for what you don't know.

If you don't know,God rules in the affairs of men and whatever pastor Adeboye does,he does so on God's behalf...so you better be careful with what you say here

What exactly are you to God? It's like you wrote yourself off for someone else who you say is closer to God than you.

He isn't Jesus or a prophet. He is just human like. You. Flesh and blood, no difference. If you seek God, you will find . Not to make it seem.like you are worshipping a pastor, who is human and prone to mistakes .

Dreal1247:
He is a king and a priest according to the bible book of Revelation 5:10. And it went further to state that we shall reign on earth.

You aren't a slave .

Maintenance is key.

OneCandleAway:
Shouldn't it have been a disabled person to be best fit?

Like a dwarf or something

I was also thinking so..

Dialpad:
Cant believe the guy is autistic... strange to me

Autistic guys are the most brilliant you will ever see. I am not suprised at him being autistic. There is always a fine line between Autism and being a genius.

But why didn't GTA guys contact him before the 24hrs? Someone should hire him for vulnerability testing

District 9.
Honestly. It was difficult to tell what was real or not. The cgi was near perfect. It blended well that one wouldn't notice they aren't real . Talking about the aliens. This is a rewatch but felt like the first time it was played .

Prigidypogodo:
shatap

Why should he? Is he wrong? Nairaland was down and everyone were complaining and bashing Nairaland for encouraging tribalism. It opened now and someone made a tribalistic comment . You are hushing him.

For why? Are you encouraging tribalism?

Lanre1st:
Sorry for choose of words, though you are not the one criticize the project, but you quoted me that the guy is correct.

Anyway, we need to constantly remind our leader on maintainers culture, we need it to preserve what we have and also to prevent recurrence expenditure on same or similar projects.

Exactly! A progressive lagos, Nigeria is all we want. We as citizens should always play our part of Caring for these infrastructures

Lanre1st:
You’re the one to check your sense of reasoning!

Now because the poor maintenance of all mentioned facilities, government should not do any innovation?
Let firstly appreciate the good work, and also collective take the authority responsible for maintenance not to talk them down on new projects

The bolded is unnecessary. Just two mature being having a convo.

No where did he/ I, stated that the project isn't a nice one . It is always a good thing . Let me use this analogy:

How will you feel buying books for your kid who always tear the books before the term runs out?


Government building these things is sweet. But it hurts if it becomes an eye sore in later years to come. Lagos is trying , we just need to do more collectively . By the way, when I say maintenance, it's not just the job of the Government but also of the citizens and users.

Lanre1st:
Tell Uzodima or Soludo to build the one that will last for 5yrs before IPOB declare sit-at-home on it.

Yeye people

Not everything is tribal. He is right.
Have you not seen the Oshodi terminals? TESLIM BALOGUN STADIUM, but bus terminals, Bridges and others What Nigeria lacks is maintenance . We don't maintain government properties well.

DamnnNiggarr:
Do police have the jurisdiction to demand nor ask for driver's license?

I was highly frustrated today, while I was on my way rushing to an event to meet up with the 10:00 AM deadline for the event which I was also the chairman, a group of some fiercely-looking police officers flagged down my vehicle and I slowed down.

One of the officers came towards my vehicle, ordered me to come out from the car and started demanding for my driver's license. I was like, what is going on?

In as much as I am aware that police officers have taken it upon themselves to be asking people for their vehicle particulars, which is a good way of tracking stolen cars, they asked for it and I provided it, but asking people for their driver's license is what I think is out of the picture.

I tried to exercise my right as a citizen of the Federal Republic of Nigeria by briefly dragging it with them initially, which I think this issue of police asking for driver's license had raised dust sometime ago, but I realized that I'm still in Nigeria, last last, I settled with 5k, this is with abeg o, after several hours and minutes had gone by, I arrived the event place by 01:15 PM, an event slated for 10:00 AM.

like I said earlier, asking for car particulars from people by the police is good, but asking for driver's license is where I think the issue lies. I thought anything that has to do with checking of drivers license is strictly under the jurisdiction of the FRSC?

I'm feeling nothing but anger and cheated which gave rise to many questions going through my mind;
Who gave the police officers the jurisdiction to be asking for driver's license?
Is there any amended law(s) that granted the police force that power?

Yes of course !!

Fearyourcreator:
Epele

Ki lo n ki mi Pele fun?

jaxxy:
There were strikes in all governments but he made effort to address brain drain. He opened up the economy.

Please explain how he did that. What do you expect from Nigeria's first civilian president? Ofcourse things would not be as bad as they are now .

Obasanjo is one of the people that added to Nigeria's problem .

8 years and he couldn't fix Nigeria's power sector, Ajaokuta steel,

Honestly. Obasanjo could have fixed Nigeira for good but he didn't

jaxxy:
Only Obasanjo understood the value of the youths and did his best to reduce the brain drain in his time.

How? There were intermittent university strikes during his tenure over non payment of salaries if I recall

Before nko?

Everybody will. It will touch everyone. We are getting to that stage where almost every Nigerian family has at least one person abroad.

When people are working and saving hard just to leave Nigeria. Many skilled workers are leaving. What are we going be left with?


Our leaders are the worse! I hope all these affect them directly or indirectly. They should see the devil they made.

Birdbyrde440:
If you are a car owner in Nigeria you need to be very sharp and attentive, before you take your car to any mechanic you must first try as much as possible to diagnose the problem.

I bought a car in August, a direct Belgium car, as soon as I bought the car I called my mechanic to change the tyres and brake pads, guess what?
After changing tyres, this mechanic intentionally put bad, oversized brake pads, after like 2 days I started noticing smoke from my tyres, whenever I match brake I will hear a very loud noise I was angry so I called the mechanic again and told him the issue, he said brake pad is ok that I need to change one disk shaped metal that the brake pad rests on, I did so for
25k and after 24hr the noise returned, he already removed the follow come stuff and replaced it with an ugly rusted one. I was suspicious.
When the noise returned I decided to take it to total filling station mechanics, after explaining to the guys they said the problem is the brake pad. They changed it and till this day no single noise from my tires, I haven't changed brake pad since then.

Since then I have met 2 different mechanics and one thing I discovered was that these mechanics usually give wrong diagnosis intentionally especially if your car is still neat with follow come parts, example if your ac gas finish they will say you need to change ac sensor, they will remove your follow come ac sensor and put substandard one. After everything they will sell your follow come sensor to spare parts dealers and before you know it your car will be a total mess.

Bros, you will not have a phone and not know a little or two thing about the phone . I am saying if you have a property, you will know little about what you own.. Same with your car. When a mechanic removes something from your car, endeavour that he gives you the removed car part and replace it with the exact replacement.

All the removed parts should be given to you. Then also find and research faults yourself .

Well, I am saying this , maybe because I am "Engineering" oriented

Agreed.
When I was getting my car. People discouraged me that i shouldn't blah blah blah, that I should have gotten a toyota.

I didn't want to get a toyota because of the rate at which it's being stolen. Can't park my car somewhere and be restless about it .

I sha bought my car and honestly, I have been enjoying it. I have done repairs here and there which is normal to me due to wears and tears. Maintenance is key .

My car still moves fine. There isn't any fault it has that I don't know about or how to solve it. I have my scanner to scan anything. Then I have a good loyal mechanic that helps

Jewessgratitud3:
https://fb.watch/oSsq3J79wF/?mibextid=ZbWKwL

When we suddenly became the judge of other people's celebration. For what exactly did you bring this here?

How is it our concern?

Dailymice:
My mum who is 50+ years japa from Nigeria to the USA in 2022 as a nurse after she got a job with my dad who is in his late 50s and my siblings below 21 (as per USA immigration laws)....
About to leave soon myself...
They earn 10x more in 2 weeks than they earned in a year here


You better start making plans for the sake of your kids.
Rich APC urchins have second passports o

Chief . Please explain the bolded for me . For the sake of my kids. How?