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ruggedtimi:
Damage control..if he is truely innocent no need for damage control. All the evidence una still dey argue. More reason members of other churches suffering similar fate wont come out because nobody will believe them.

Abi oooo, evil people like you, will always like to hear damage things about others, whenever they post negative about others, that's when you would eager to hear, cos that's what ur ear wishes to hear about people.

IF TODAY I GO PUBLIC AND SAY YOU RAPE A GIRL, WITHOUT ANY SINGLE EVIDENT TO BACK IT UP , AND YOU EXPECT EVERYONE TO BELIEVE IT, "in as much prophet TB never a Saint, a submission he himself alluded to, wen he was alive",....only a satanist like you would beliv rubbish that BBC posted.

You ask urself, when will BBC carry out investigation about charity work that SCOAN and other churches are doing?

Which daughter that father would reject in which she would go public to say thrash about his dad like this?

You ask urself, for her to say this thrash, does that make TB Joshua family accept her back?

Does the act made her good before people or even tarnishing her future more?

With ur stupid logic, the guys that claimed Sanwo olu and Otedola fathered them, automatically they belong to those families.

saphiere:
Nigerian men are afraid of independent women.
They are intimidated by our successes.
They need women that are solely dependant on them so that they can use those women as they whish.

How many Nigerian men afraid of independent woman? How many afraid women's success?

.....be going out with good guy, u say no, why won't end in the hands of rascals?

I will advise you to look beyond hopeless urchins in outside world.

Several of ur peers are not only progress in their careers but also flourishing in their marriages.

THIS IS NEW YEAR OO, IS NOT TOO LATE TO MAKE AMENDMENT BY OPEN UR EYES WIDE, GOOD MAN IS FAR BEYOND SIX PACK OR LONG MAN.

cpu2006:
the best Minister so far in Tinubu cabinet. he is doing well. i pray he is not part of this scandal. but, if he is among them, then then then & then

Someone with scandal, yet u still calling him best minister.

What will u call "scanda-less ministers?

Anybody read that documentry and believe it, hook line and sinker, just know something is wrong with you and ur brain needs to be checked.

U just interviewed a random people with no single evident to back it up.

Someone claiming he was one of disciples yet, he didn't show any proof to back it up. All the current and former disciples, I think we know them and their tie with TB Joshua.

Nice123:
Considering the actions of this lady, a 37-year-old youth within her first 8 months in office, it's a stark realization of the state of our nation
At times, I reflect on whether there's any Nigerian, myself included, untouched by corruption, someone who wouldn't embezzle public funds if presented with the chance.

Who shall save Nigeria? The earlier we realised what we are doing to ourselves, the better for us. Clock is ticking, one day monkey go go market e no go return.

They say, give youth chance, it's youth that can do it,now, little chance they give youth, see messy, less than 6 months

I doubt married and remarried won't be ur portion, because hurtful statement like this (as u claimed) won't stop comming from women.

Odogwuzack:
Did you read where he said he had resigned his directorship in 2019 (with proper documentations) and do not pursue jobs for the company neither is he a signatory to any document?

I'm very sure you saw that part but una agenda must agend.

Hope u know that the current director is his wife?

Enny2013:
Things I read on Nairaland!

Y won't u sleep at ur babe's house when u ar both responsible fellows? What's d big deal?

Check ur comment, you put the word responsible, how many girls out there are responsible? For majority, it's one man that paid for house rent and as a guy who values his life, he needs to be extra vigilant.

Man jealous than Woman o, some men can kill fellow man if he catches him sleeping in house he rents for his woman o

ddippset:
Lol

She only reported the illegal movement of 44 billion.
That's her only offence😪😪😪

So paying 500 million into a private account is not an offence?

Stop all these pls, it's normal for her to report such illegality , doing that shouldn't be yardstick for her to do illegality herself.

Govt business must be conducted strictly according to established code and conduct.


Nigeria has enough rule and laws to make things right, but bending the rules by individual is what turn Nigeria to jungle.

Go and update urself about misappropriation of govt fund.


Govt money that is meant for official car, you used it to build govt office. Hope u know it's an offence.

The most BRAINWASHED Christian globally are people attending Christ choosen.

Using entire members to advertise his church business.


How can a rational human being would be traveling from Lagos to Abuja, afre dressing well and coperately, let say SUIT attire, he now wear apron as overall.

......and this is APRON that carries particular church name and logo.

Wherever you go, they see the name of the church, if by chance they asked u about it, u also give sweet talk about the church product.

Which other marketing strategies good and free than that?

Iamicekid:
To her the names calling means nothing by what you said yourself, she calls. Virtually everyone by there pet names, Guy move on don’t be a simp, plenty fish dey ocean, looking for a new river and cast ur net

Such women/girls beware and vr extravigilant about their manipulative skills.

This one is talking as those cases not generated uproar than this before they were fired.

Infact, Tinubu prompted to intervene far more than those people, as his minister of information said, they still looking at it, which is normal in every settings, if after this week ,they made the findings and she is guilty of embezzlement and not fired ....that's when you can accuse Tinubu.

If they made finding, if she did it erroneously, probably because she still naive in handling of govt transactions and the money involved still intact in the accounts.

Tinubu may reprimand her for suspension or warning.

BEFORE PEOPLE SAID EVIL SPIRIT BUT NOW STAGE MANAGE.

You repeatedly raped for years because ur hands and legs were tied for those years?

You had abortion first time,you also allowed him to rape u for the second time until five abortions.

Which women, TB Joshua would like to bed that she won't open it for him on free?


I GUESS TB JOSHUA ALSO STAGE MANAGED AND BRAINWASHED SEVERAL PRESIDENTS OF NATIONS, AFRICA AND BEYOND THAT CAME TO MEET HIM THEN.

Many of healings and deliverances, he would ask then to go for test in reputable hospitals first and after healings, he would also ask then to go for test for confirmations. I think those hospitals that scatter around the world including UK hospitals are also parts of his stage managing.

The miracles he performed in full glaring of everyone in open stadium in CUBA, PARAGUAY, DOMICAN REPUBLIC etc with President or top govt officials were in attendance were also stage manage


One thing that everyone must know is that, no single church can do all healings of afflicted, if u go thr and no solution, it doesn't mean it's not existed.

YOU JUST GATHER RANDOM PEOPLE TO SAY THRASH WITHOUT A SINGLE EMPERICAL EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP, YET YOU WANT US TO BILIV U.

codedgalaxy:
Some times they dont toast you directly. Like every other things they like cutting corners than beign direct.
For instance one beautiful girl came to my buisness premises yesterday day, at the beginning she was feeling all posh but, after some few light convo which i did well in bringing her down to her place with subtle humor.
she kinda striked a likening to me cause as she was leaving, she went away for a bit then returned as if she forgot something and said to me playfully with her hands fully stretched out " put you phone number here i can call you up later, so i can disturb you small" lol, to which i politely diclined, with the excuse that she can always reach me at my office any time she likes.
She didnt like it but i didnt give a damn cause, in my life the one thing i cherish and protect the most is my peace and my energy, i dont allow anybody to just jump into my life anyhow.
damn her.
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Codedgalaxy

How I wish just 30% of Naija guys can have ur spirit and character towards female gender. They too cheap before girls ,and more reason average Naija girls turn relationship to billing.

I trust my fellow Naija guys, who are also he-goats in making.

Just like a woman, perhaps, a married woman because of wedding ring she wore, that we boarded same vehicle, she tried everything to start Convo with me, in which I politely rebuffed with one word answers or just shook my head. I would be surprised, had I flowed with and latter requested for her number and reject my request.

vybzkartel:
She is married but we are friends
No strings
She says she would like to pay me a visit
She is a christian and says she can't cheat on her husband
Is it healthy/??

Or is anything wrong with it?

First, is anything wrong if ur future wife pay a bachelor visit in his room?

Even though it story is fake but it's happening, saying all those things is try to pull defence and push every blame on you wen things go messy.

EmptyGarden:
Too many rules and regulations might end up chasing everyone else.

Too many bashing and insults can end up banning Nairaland forum.

Seun:
Hello Everyone,

There have been numerous complaints about anti-women, anti-feminist and misogynistic content on Nairaland, especially in this section.

This is not unrelated to the rising popularity of people like Sola, who are trying to fight back against the perceived excesses of woke western feminism. But it has brewed too much toxicity.

It has driven too many women out of the Romance section and out of Nairaland. They feel that they are always being attacked by male Nairalanders who seem to hate and despise them.

How can we make women feel welcome in the Romance section and on Nairaland? What rules should we put in place to bring women back and make them very happy?

Cheers.

First of all, the posts in romance and family sections that your mods dishing out, 70% of them are skid towards bashing of women. I would be surprised if all mods in romance section are female and posting out such maligning threads.

1. Make sure you re-orientate and educate your mods about posts they should be posting to front pages.

2. Your mods must be vigilant at all times,to quickly ban and remove any bashing/toxic mentions, most especially on front pages.

3.After a particular user might have committed same offence for 3-5 times, endeavour to ban him/her for longer period like a months..

4. Provide a block botton in which individuals can use to block any user he/she doesnt want his or her mention. (Infact this need urgent attention)


Let me remind you that, if we happen to be in advanced world, this platform, NAIRALAND, would have banned long ago, because it full of toxic and hate speeches. TAKE FOR INSTANT, YOU ASKED FOR ADVICE, THE FIRST THREE PAGES, ONLY A HANDFUL OF USERS GIVE YOU AN INSIGHT, OTHRES RESULTED TO BASHING AND HATE SPEECH AGAIN.

Biodun556:
BBC Investigation Unveils Late Nigerian Pastor, TB Joshua’s Atrocities, Life Of Abuse, Harassment, Rape, Manipulation, Staged Miracles

January 7, 2024
Joshua died on June 5, 2021. As part of the investigation, the BBC interviewed at least 30 former members and workers of the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN). The first installment of the documentary is scheduled to be released on January 8.

The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is set to publish a 3-part investigative documentary detailing the atrocities and sexual crimes committed by Pastor Temitope Balogun Joshua, famously known as TB. Joshua.




Joshua died on June 5, 2021. As part of the investigation, the BBC interviewed at least 30 former members and workers of the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN). The first installment of the documentary is scheduled to be released on January 8.



The 3-part documentary revealed the clandestine lifestyle of the now-deceased founder of SCOAN. It detailed stories of abuse, harassment, rape, manipulation, and staged miracles. Sources told the BBC that the church knew about all the allegations but never investigated them. They alleged the sexual crime spanned over two decades.





A part of the documentary revealed how SCOAN shielded its congregation from the truth about the collapse of one of the church's guesthouses in 2014. A video that was shown multiple times to members on Emmanuel TV showed a short clip of the structure with something that seemed like an aircraft flying over it.



“On television, they were showing us the building had been bombed,” one of the sources who lost her daughter in the collapsed building told the BBC.



SCOAN is located at Ikotun-Egbe area of Lagos State. The church grew from a local evangelical into a multimillion-dollar church with worshipers from all around the world.



The aircraft story fed to the members was all a lie, Emmanuel, one of the young men who served TB Joshua told the BBC. Emmanuel claimed the church had a structural defect.

The foundation of the building was inadequate for the floors built on it, Rae, a Brit who attended the church and was a disciple, corroborated. She added that Joshua insisted that the building be raised despite professional opinions.



“They told us don't tell what you know,” Emmanuel, another worker at SCOAN said in the film. “They knew something was wrong with the building but they were managing it.”



SCOAN later paid the families of the victims cash as compensation which they interpreted to be “hush money”. A church worker who was part of those who handed the money to victims' families in South Africa said TB Joshua asked that she instruct the grieving families not to speak to the media. Then, Joshua personally threatened families who refused the money, sources told the BBC.



“The building collapse is a good example of everyday life under TB Joshua. It is just a series of cover-ups. It is just this was so big it was almost impossible for him to make it go away,” Rae said



The BBC found that people were dismembered under the rubble and dead bodies were transferred in SCOAN ambulances to shield the reality of the disaster from the press to protect both the image of the church and TB Joshua.



Survivors of TB Joshua’s sexual exploitation narrated how they were manipulated and silenced even when they knew the relationship they had with “daddy” was abusive. These women were part of TB Joshua's discipleship. Multiple women narrated how he molested and raped them. A few women who resisted his assault at first were threatened into submission, one of the women told the BBC.



TB Joshua told the women he was sexually assaulting them for their salvation, all the women said. These women joined the synagogue when they were teenagers and spent years before finally leaving. A woman identified as Abisola said she was in the church for 14 years and was raped throughout her stay. When the women get pregnant as a result of being raped many times, they were forced to get an abortion in a dingy clinic inside the synagogue.



“We went into his room and I stood there. He said ‘off your clothes’ so I removed my clothes he just pointed so I lay down and then he raped me. He broke my virginity. I was screaming and he was whispering in my ears that I should stop acting like a baby. I was 17 years old. I was underage,” one of the women said.



One of the survivors confronted TB Joshua after she managed to escape. She recorded the encounter in videos she shared with the BBC. In the video, a security officer was heard threatening to shoot at the lady. Survivors said they were targeted, beaten, and shot at by thugs suspected of working for the pastor.



The BBC’s documentary revealed how the church staged managed and exaggerated miracles that were televised. People were told to exaggerate their problems so they could be healed, likewise, their healing so it could be “perfected by God”, a source who worked at the miracle department told the BBC.



“You’ve got this man who positioned himself as a father with many children and went on to rape, abuse, and molest all these people who call him daddy. How is somebody like that permitted to walk free,” Rae asked. Rachel joined the church when she was 17 because she hoped to be cured of homosexuality.



Another part of the investigation delved into how TB Joshua maltreated and ostracised the daughter he had out of wedlock. Ajoke, now 28 years old, told the BBC how she confronted her father, about allegations of sexual abuse and, was subsequently thrown out of the church. She narrated how she was isolated and indoctrinated. Ajoke said she contemplated suicide.



“The disciples dragged me out of the office,” she said, narrating the day she confronted her father. “Put me in a room and isolated me from the rest of the church. I wonder how I lived through that time because they were hitting me with belts, chains… I couldn't take a shower for days. He was trying so hard to stop people from listening to me. He felt threatened by the fact that I knew what was happening.”



The BBC will air the documentary for three consecutive weeks.

SaharaReporters reported in August 2021 that the Senior Pastor of the Household of God Church International Ministries, Chris Okotie, described the late TB Joshua as a magician who disguised himself as a minister of God.

In a viral video, Okotie said the popular Nigerian prophet was never called by God into the gospel ministry.

He said in the video, “What is the truth about TB Joshua? Who was he? Was he a product of Christianity? Or a practitioner of shamanism? Was he a servant of the Lord Jesus? Or some itinerant religious quack?

“Was he a true prophet, who was misunderstood? Or a hypocrite masquerading under the habiliment of the Faith?

“When God begins a work in scripture, particularly from the Old Testament, he begins with patterns, what we call types, shadows.

“You say why because the patterns determine the flow of power and authenticity of that enterprise. He is a magician, a sorcerer, and calls himself a prophet.”





In March 2023, Mail Online reported that an aristocrat, Constance Marten who ran away for manslaughter was allegedly 'groomed' by TB Joshua, the leader of a Nigerian sect as a teenager.



Marten, 35, who had been charged with manslaughter of her baby 'Victoria' by way of gross neglect along with her lover Mark Gordon, spent six months in a compound near Lagos, Nigeria as a teen

While there it is thought she was forced to stay in a dormitory of 50 girls who were watched over by armed guards, starved, woken for biblical readings and made to call the leader 'daddy', the report also said

Marten and Gordon were arrested and detained after a seven-week manhunt for them and their child came to an end, ahead of a hearing at the Old Bailey later in March 2023 about their involvement in Victoria's death.

Marten, who grew up on a £100million estate in Dorset and whose grandmother was goddaughter of the late Queen Mother, was believed to have travelled to Nigeria when she was in her teens

In Lagos she joined the Synagogue, Church of All Nations (SCOAN).

Joe Hurst, a former British soldier who joined the group but left before Marten arrived in 2006, said she spoke to him years later to say she and other white people at the compound were humiliated by the controversial pastor.

Speaking to The Independent, Mr Hurst said she claimed she had been forced to eat Joshua's leftovers and had been placed in social exile - a punishment given to members who were not 'focused enough' on the pastor or who spoke about their lives before entering the compound.


He added that when speaking about what happened in the compound, she asked: "How could God allow this to happen to us?

Matthew McNaught, author of a book about the megachurch, said she had contacted him several years later as she was "trying to get her head around what happened to her", adding: "she was confused and traumatised"

In April 2021, YouTube suspended his channel, Emmanuel TV, after he claimed homosexuality was the result of possession by demonic spirits.

Marten's ex-partner Francis Agolo, 44, was quoted by The Sun as saying the experience in Nigeria seemed to have been "traumatic' for her, adding: 'She (Marten) would clam up when talking about her time there."

He added: "When I knew Constance, she was caring and loving. It seems very out of character."


Marten had previously opened up about the experience in an interview with Cosmopolitan magazine, in which she revealed she was one of 50 girls who shared a dormitory in a religious cult.


She added: "The leader looked me in the eye and said, ‘Your family doesn't matter anymore. I'm your father now.’"

https://saharareporters.com/2024/01/07/bbc-investigation-unveils-late-nigerian-pastor-tb-joshuas-atrocities-life-abuse?fbclid=IwAR1s6sMU7nrNLKVK5QqX8Jx06fEyaFgxyQA6SnVlJCzBklJqmffFEbfqHBo

Still waiting for BBC to air all his charity works.

Zimri:
There was actually. I watched one around 2009 but it didn't make round then. I found this BBC snippet interesting when I noticed the same woman making confessions in that 2009 video resurfaced again in this video.
Though she was quite slender then.

See her then

1st pic.

Emperor4tune:
i sense real conspiracy here,why not when he was alive,be careful of people who hates you because they can go any length to bring you down,he has left behind a good record and that is what maters.RIP General !

Which other things they want to release,that they haven't released when he was alive.

INFACT, he himself played several of what they say they wanted to reveal on his tv station wen he was alive

I remember one bisola confession video vividly several years ago.


Meanwhile, for the miracles, for all the miracles, he would first ask them for test in reputable hospitals in anywhere globally before deliverance, and after healings he would also ask them to go for test, all these hospitals are reputable hospitals scattered around the world.

I remember, CMDs of uniben and uniport once came to testified ,are they respected professional bought too.


What about several presidents of the world...I guess they too stage managed


NB. Nairaland posted it as far back as 2011, the same bisola still not retire from campaign of callumy after TB Joshua death.

Patriotic9ja:
I thought I was alone. Got confused with his analysis

Even revaluation won't work going by his analysis in this argument, because the civil servants salary too, would be revalued. So, the purchasing power of civil servants will still weak and poor.

JASONjnr:
No...

If a currency is devalued. Prices of commodities will follow.

For instance a back of rice sold for 50k will be sold for 5k.

The only problem will be higher import cost. Which many imported goods will be very expensive and importers will reduce its importation power and if those imports are majorly goods we depend on, then, it can lead to inflation.

Devalue or revalue? Go and update urself about currency revaluation pls.

This lady needs to be suspended if not removed

This is to send a signal to other top govt oficials that is no longer business as usual.

Provided Tinubu want to succeed sha.


I have said it countless time, that all his harsh policies would only come to fruition if he can gather political will to tackle corruption and manage lean resources efficiently.

Anyenmoney:
Hypocrite Everywhere.

They don't wear trousers when going to church,. But check out some of their lifestyle outside church.

And you are righteous? Is it only them going to paradise?

Why are you so much so concerned about shaft on someone eye but negligent the log on ur eye?

crossfm:
Hehehe.

Dangote group must be very shocked by the move EFCC took, because they have always enjoyed a privileged, favoured and over pampered position by successive governments.

They should come clean with their records. The era of stiffening other people business to give other people undue advantage is coming to an end.

Let every player be given equal room for development.

I don't even know Tinubu can go deep like this. Anyway he doesn't have options, if he wants to see money runs his government.

It would have far better, if one of ur sons or daughters is with frontier soldiers in war zone.


At least, they too should be fighting for their motherland, and what is good for goose ,they say, it also good for gander.

Wen Ortom was fighting Buhari because of insecurities in ur state, instead for u guys to team up with him, u are going back and forth to play politics behind gov on security just because of power.

Now u re in power, the hydraheaded problem still finishing ur tribesmen. I biliv u now realised why Ortom fought and abandoned Buhari.

seanery:
In my wife case, na d ex dey call her but she no dey pick.
And when d guy text her, she will show me d text.

N so i give her strict warning.

Nobody tell her before she go change her sim to another number, and she gave me the old number to keep or break for her.

I will advice you to keep ur eye on ur wife's phone, I'm 100% she knows her ex number offhand, she might still be calling her secretly with new number.

And if u can also monitor her chat, she might not give her direct line but choose to be chatting and calling on Facebook or WhatsApp. Women are just too cunning.

BECAUSE I BILIV IF SHE ISN'T READY TO PICK HER EX WITH HER OLD NUMBER, SHE COULD DO IT EVEN WITHOUT YOU KNOW, BUT SINCE SHE IS WEAK BEFORE HER EX, THAT WAS WHY YOU EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT THAT EX DISTURBING HER.

WOMEN ARE JUST TOO WEAK BEFORE THEIR EX.

......and you think this can solve ur her problem? Nothing wife can do to stop a public tap, he must share it for the public.

I pray you won't contact deadly diseases and go before ur time.

DrChukki:
Online: Yorubas hate Igbos

In Real Life: Yorubas and Igbos marrying themselves

This December in my village, I saw a Yoruba guy making incarnations in my village stream. At first, I was surprised because I hardly see other tribes in my village except Hausas... When I approached him, he said his wife is from my village and he has been living there for 3 years now.

Lesson: Igbos don't hate Yorubas, neither do Yorubas hate Igbos.

They're just having competition among themselves which is normal... Just that most times, some uninformed people turn it into hatred.

For me, I no send anybody... Dẹy your dẹy, mek I dey my dẹy... Provided I'm making my money, I'm cool

U see, in every tribe ,thr are certain people among them, who usually see ther tribe above every other tribes, no amount of councelling or education can make them believe otherwise.

They are myopic and delusional about their tribes, and seeing other tribes as inferior, anything their tribesmen do is good and for others its bad.

Atimes, wen I see how Yoruba people freely relating with igbo in town of my residence, I always thinking, if not people in real life that are posting thrash on social media,......most especially nairaland .

Gboss247:
Continue to dream while EFCC entertain you with half-bake news.

Indeed you are hulucinating , perhaps u still on agro of nonsense u smoke across crossover.

Check the person u mentioned or u give it phone for person who can interpret English for u.

May you not see psychiatrist cos of excessive Colorado" intake.

tunjijones:
Congrats Jenifa.

This is where you thrive not in politics. No be everybody get mind to do politics.

Boda politician wanted to use her popularity to ride to power, if he had achieved that , he would have relegated her to backroom and load his people that he really need to reign with him.