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xxxtedyxxx: Same old story. Op...what kind of grass have u been smoking?...if u know ur allegations r valid..y don't u get a microphone and go to oshodi..and make verify ur claims there?.#confused.

I am not a pastor. Smokers are better than Tuberculosis Joshua....you dont notice is hair?

xxxtedyxxx: Assuming its d truth..so who cares?..aint people stil reading d bible and living better lives?

Aint dere errors and inconsistencies in the koran?..yet..we av gud muslims who read it.


Ur point is baseless. On thin u shud know is dat, historians will always come up with fake junks just to refute and find fault in scriptures. U shud make better use of ur time, get a hobby, get a babe, or beta still...join a gym. Do sth with ur life..u will never refute sth dat existed before ur grandfather was born.

Av u tried creating a fbook page or designin a site so u can paste dis ur points there?..

#everybody sha one open thread on NL.

Wen u finally die...and reach d great beyond.. U will Know Ow far.

#just ma 2cents.

cry me a river

macof: My Ori is wat I believe in

You didn't noticed ad-hominem? He wants to change the argument direction into attacks on your person.

thehomer: The theory of evolution is also a scientific theory. The fact that the discoverer was a European doesn't make it less true.

And you accepted what they told you about intelligence evolution and race?

Where is the macro-evolution evidence pls? Dont tell me adaptation crap.

Is there any African thought or philosophy that you can present which support evolution?

You dismissed religion dogma because there is no evidence for God, supernaturals and wholes of inconsistency, illogicality and fable embedded in it. Pls can you provide marco-evolution evidence....show us evidence the whites are evolved in intelligence and you are the one close to your cousin- ape. Where is the missing link? If you cant provide this evidences, why are you hanging on it like a religionist hang on his religion without evidence?

Religion insulted your ancestral heritage....christianity painted devil as black, islam said blacks are next to donkey and mormon said blacks are slaves. Evolution said you are Ape and have lesser intelligence than other race in the world. Is this what you want to defend?

thehomer: I missed that part of his response. You seem to think that being a pagan is somehow better. Why don't you stop your foolishness and avoid using Western languages too?

look before you lick.

Mr Troll: @macof, until you stop using anything developed by the oyinbo, you remain a pathetic hypocrite.

we paid for it. Understood?

Mr Troll: Science now has african and western versions. Lmao, nothing person no go hear!

stop behaving as if you dont understand what he said. Darwinism is a theory from western scientist.

Also what can you say about African innovations and scientifical discovery?

oyelude f: yeah but u couldnt b more farther frm d truth

Truth is next to me. And am calling you to have it taste. The satan signature is in the bible....that is the truth. I know it bitter and hurt but that is the truth

oyelude f: you refusd to comment on ds Mr op

come up with sense.

bolaino: lol, a very foolish thread indeed, you guys should make better use of your time, you sound desperate, you can not fall or shake what you did not create. You guys had better run into the ark of salvation. Repent for the kingdom of God has come.

Hey Bola.

The kingdom of God is within you - Jesus.

The bible has satanic signature in the four gospels. Common, what is God looking at when is rebel took over his inspiration?

Less I forget, satan is the ruler of earth.

Mr Troll: exactly my point. You don't know what chemicals are contained in said lime...do you?

I dont even know the twenty elements. I ringed my dad on phone that am having malaria. And he said 'shebi you still get garri there, go buy lime water and mix it together. Call me back after you use it'. And behold....I feel good. Wetin concern me with chemical elements? I am not in the field nor have apparatus to check it.

Mr Troll: what exactly do those sacrifice aim for?

Healing ailment. What exactly does aromatherapy aim for?

Mr Troll: I didn't highlight incision. Though it is quite an unhealthy practice, at least it can be explained medically

pls educate me on it. I will appreciate to learn from you.

Adding those that do not know the medical explanation will call it bulls.hit. You see where am pointing at?

Mr Troll: who/what are they trying to program? The patients or the energies/gods?

manipulating the energies/gods for healing a patient together with the use of herbs, incantations, incisions and spiritual arts

Mr Troll: ok. Like I said before, strictly herbal treatments work fine though they have their own short comings but then try to separate it from the bullshit. When the babalawos start giving esoteric and 'spiritual' explanations to what is obviously a natural phenomena, it is either one of two things...they are ignorant or they are being dubious for personal/selfish reasons.

Everything is natural and within nature. What is all this with supernatural you holding unto?

Mr Troll: there is already scholarly research on herbal medicines, but not on supernatural bullshit.

we will get there someday. Research on herb medicine is on. You agree incision have medical explanation. Incantation now have explanation and incense burning too have close related explanation. What you call crap tomorrow not too far would all have explanation.

Mr Troll: having an open doesn't equal being gullible and credulous

True.

Being skeptic doesn't make things that have no explanation yet bullshit.

Mr Troll: I'm sure you are aware of what is called the Scientific Method?

Conjecture, proposition, inference and hypothesis are crap. Until we have plausible theoris and analytical explanation.

Mr Troll: in fact, they should be taken most seriously. Who knows whose hand it may fall into? Or whether we might have to fight off aliens in future? ; D

lol. You know the good guy when I visit you with AK47 or M16. Person go piss for body I swear

Mr Troll: no, there is a logical explanation for it. Its called ignorant superstition

lmao. I dont agree it ignorant superstition..... There is sense in nonsense. Only those that lodge themselves into it can see this.

thehomer: What? Are you confused by Western words in the Western language of English?

Stop appearing like lap-puppy.

Someone said he is a pagan and not a christian or jew. And you were still forcing bible and christianity on him. Wtf

Pls.....be matured. He said something and you should address that instead of picking foolish and deceitful slam on his personality

macof: So no more issues.

Nofaith wat happened wit ur "copy and paste"?

Fela song titled 'Johny just drop (jjd) should fit nnofaith.

Listen it bro....it butthurt track

wiegraf: Are you nourishing your radio as well? You seriously need to attend one of those schools in the link earlier.

Ok, that's it. I hope. Kudos

listen to that track. It speak whole lot about you. Lol

Obi1kenobi: What on earth is Western Science? So, as an Electrical Engineer, if I'm being educated on laws and principles of Maxwell, Kirchoff, Fourier, Laplace, Thevenin, Fleming etc and their applications in the field are demonstrated to me, then I've become a slave to Western science? What does it matter the origin of any theory in science if it can be universally demonstrated as fact? I guess we're all slaves seeing as we utilize Western technology to type our drivel on here and we even communicate in a Western language. And coming from slaves to foreign religions, what an irony that is. Not to mention the so called pagans and traditionalists here who have simply traded one delusion for another delusion.

This place gets funnier and funnier with each rare time I visit.

This beautiful quote from Fela should answer you.

"When you are a colonial boy, you don't know anything about your own culture. I saw that colonial education and upbringing, which America was involved in too, was very badly wild. History starts with Mungo Park `discovering' the Niger! This pushed me so much I said I wanted to die in the struggle."

So Africans do not know River Niger before Park came?

How much can you say about your culture?

Yes we have many engineers like you....but our power plant were hosted by foreigners.

That is what macof is saying.

Obi1kenobi: Exactly the kind of mindless drivel I'm talking about. I guess if one is not a superstitious, deluded clown, then one is a slave to oyinbo science. What philosophy are you referring to exactly? Is there something an African scientist has said that we should believe instead? Maybe you should educate the forum if you know. I'm interested.

original suffer head. The bold indicates that black man go suffer....chai

When did you become mouth piece for muskee? The question directed to you was ignored and you are here foaming because you want to defend evolution?....let see what you got.

Evil Brain: A beg, stop spreading ignorance here. If you don't understand the theory of evolution, maybe you should go and read a biology textbook before you start posting nonsense.

Stop directing me to biology textbook. Answer simple question or forget it.

How do you want me to continue on a book that insulted my intelligence?

Evil Brain: There is nothing inherently racist about evolution. Its just a theory about how life changes over time in response to environmental factors. And like any other scientific theory, it is politically and racially neutral.

Dr. James Watson said you are intelligently inferior because of the color on your skin. Your IQ was paralleled with that of ape in the thick forest. Stop hiding fact. http://mightyminnow./2007/10/18/black-people-are-less-intelligent-says-dr-james-watson-nobel-prize-winner-and-dna-pioneer/

Evil Brain: In fact, it was Darwin himself that debunked all the racist pseudo scientists who were claiming that we blacks were a desperate species more closely related to gorillas and chimps.

Where is the debunking article link or video or report? Dont think folykaze will eat cheap words of yours here. Back it with evidence. If you can, I will backoff.

And Dr. James Watson is a pseudo-scientist? And darwin is oga at the top. Pls apart from darwin....can you quote an African theory that is related to evolution or can you provide us macro-organism that prove evolution is real? I dont want adaptation here pls.

Evil Brain: You accuse others of being mental slaves, yet you are the one who is parroting the brain dead beliefs of ignorant oyimbo Christians fundamentalists who refuse to accept even basic, common sense science once it conflicts with anything in their bible.

I didn't ask you to cry. Calm down when you deal with kaze. Can you show me where I accused anybody on this thread?

Evil Brain: Maybe you should look inwards first before you start accussing others.

I will do when you provide tangible evidence and answers to my questions.

Eating guguru and chilling with fela song titled 'sense wiseness'.

Lol

Sarassin: What is your justification for saying "the four gospels served the purposes of providing human witnesses.......these men saw and walked with Christ". ?

These are the sorts of glib statements paraded by half-baked christians. Not one of the gospel writers was a contemporary of Jesus, in fact the writers are all anonymous. As the OP pointed out Mark is our earliest writer, and his narrative appeared around twenty years after the death of Jesus, his account is still 3rd and 4th hand writings of oral traditions. Yes, Papias does give a hint that Mark's account may have been dictated by Peter but if you have done the research you would be aware of the problems of that conjecture.

I don't agree with the issue of satanic influences on the book of Mark, it was written before the Apocalypse of John and his nightmarish revelations of the beast e.t.c, Mark remains our earliest and best account of the life and death of Jesus before the likes of Matthew and Luke did a hatchet job on it.

You should have understand me better.

Christians believe 666 is the mark of the beast.

Gospel of Mark has 666 verses. That is counting from chapter 1 verse 1 to chapter 16 verse 8. Although some bible versions included additional 12 verses that is from mark 16 verse 8 and make it extended to verse 20. Scholars agreed that the additional verses were not in the original manuscript and that the translators inserted what they believed could be missing in the original manuscript. Check mark 16:9-20 authencity from the internet.

So what I mean in my Op is that if 666 could be the satanic number or figure of the beast, then the gospel of mark have the signature of satan. And other gospels like matthew, luke and john were influenced by satan considering the saying that a corrupt tree can only produce a corrupt fruit.

oyelude f: no. you wrote them

Answer him and stop displaying ignorance everywhere.

Are those who wrote the gospels named after it?

oyelude f: gibberish

butthurt. Truth is bitter. Cry me a river kid

noblefada: First of all the bible is not a literal book as we kept saying, pls don't use ur mental knowledge to interpret God's word. As I said earlier Jephthan did not sacrifice his daughter because it was an abomination before God: Deuteronomy 18:9-10 NKJV
"When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. [10] There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
Leviticus 18:21 NKJV
And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.
Jer 7:31 KJV* And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
From the passage in Judges 11, when he made that vow he was expecting a sheep or goat to come out and not his daughter which was evident from his reaction, besides according to the law, he had the right to redeem her back
Leviticus 27:2-4 NKJV
"Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: 'When a man consecrates by a vow certain persons to the LORD, according to your valuation, [3] if your valuation is of a male from twenty years old up to sixty years old, then your valuation shall be fifty shekels of silver, according to the shekel of the sanctuary. [4] If it is a female, then your valuation shall be thirty shekels;
What he did was to consecrate her to God's service
And for Abraham, we all know God was testing him. Shalom

Trash. Jephthah promised God a burnt offering of anything that came out of his house first. His daughter came out first and was roasted as burnt offering. Why are you dodging that? Abi na another God?

Beretta92: Folykaze,you and Fela these days gan...

lol. Wetin man go do. I dont drink or smoke. But I cant go a day without listening to Abamieda voice. His song is like addiction to me. And I see Fela himself as a philosophical mentor and God.

Manhunter™:
Judges 11 vs 30 - 31

Judges 11 vs 36

Judges 11 vs 39
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Dude, Jephtah killed his daughter plain and simple.

why are you taking that religitard serious?

aManFromMars: Lol. What do you mean by western science?

Foreign religion insulted us black. We were called the children of cain....the cursed jewish father.

In islam, we are classical slaves.

In western science....you know what black is according to this subject: intelligence evolution and race.

macof: I love this piece.
You talk the truth

ti Ori eni ba da ona yi gba ki amaa soro buruku si

But wat happens if his path is not of his consciousness? I see many doing things because others do it or many other factors that are not suppose to matter to an individual

The proverb you said make me to remember this ancestral saying : ibi ti ori eni ba lo, ki ese ma takosi meaning my legs should not divert me from where my consciousness is taking me to.

Fela said it all in his song titled 'why black man dey suffer' and 'blackman cry'.

There is this natural law...cause and effect which I respect so much. We forgo what belong to us...we took the things of the foreigners which we do not understand and doesn't fit us.....we forget our history, identity and cultural heritage. But we suffer it today.

I am proud to be African. China and Japan are moving progressively in their identity and consciousness...i think they are enjoying it today. Do what you got to do....make the change start in you. We will get there someday

noblefada: Let me just say this, as much as I sometimes read the NIV, I'm particularly not a fan of it because I personally question some of its translation, but the truth of the matter still remains that so many things I've been done to discredit Christianity, just coming to the religion of NL can attest to it, so I'm not surprised or even worried when you talk about various types of bible and translations, in fact it will be odd if they don't exist! But all that doesn't change the fact that scriptures are divinely inspired, even the authorised king James still had issues with translation, all this don't change the truth of scriptures. Shalom

not making sense. This doesn't change the fact that the bible is fraud, heavily manipulated and has satan signature

thehomer: Last time I checked, the Bible and Jesus weren't invented by Nairaland Christians so why do you believe it?

some people just come from nowhere and spill trash. What is the meaning of this?

Evil Brain: Western science? So science and rationality belong exclusively to oyimbos now?

I suppose you also think being a superstitious môron is required to be a true African.

N.B. Its not ironic at all that you can call others "slaves to western science" just because they don't buy your western religion.

He does not buy western religion.

That aside pls....what can you say about African science? I mean those that were covered to suppress us as inferior race.

macof: For some reasons I agree with the topic.

I feel atheist, at least the NL ones are zombies who can't reason and aren't rational at all.

They are common puppets to western science

We are all atheist. The reason you dont believe in Abrahamic Gods is the reason they rejected your own Gods.

Reason with them.... Ifa said 'ti orisa o gbe ni, a ma n pati ni' meaning of a divinity is not beneficiary to you, you can neglect it.

African spirituality welcome every human including atheist, satanist and the theist. If you dont believe in my Orisa, you can dine with me. If you believe in my Orisa, we worship together. There is this saying that 'Eyi wu mi o wu ọ' meaning what it is good for me might be bad for you. So we are entitled as African to remove religion and believe which divide us. We are all human.

I cant blame atheist for their take and stance. It is good to reason. Though there are dogmatic white men slave like wiegraf and nnofaith. Logicboy, platteon and others are still open minded. If there is evidence for a god today, i'm very sure they will change their mindset. My point exactly is that Ifa said 'ori eni la bo, aba fi orisa sile....nigba ti iku ba de, ori eni ni ku ni ku....ori eni ni orisa eni' meaning we should have venerate our consciousness rather than any divinity, when death came around, it would be you and your consciousness.....your consciousness is your own divinity.

Atheist practically hold onto their consciousness. They apply logic and reasons. I think the enemy of my enemy is my best friend. Pagan and spirituality is the little step I can rest on....as an atheist too.....we are one.

noblefada: You're very funny, just checked the NIV again and I saw more than 12 verses so I don't know what u talking about, by the way the other supposedly added verses are consistent with Mathew and Luke. The four gospel served the main purpose of providing human witnesses to the coming of Christ, so those men actually saw and walked with Christ, the only doubt could be the book of Mark, but it is widely believe that it was actually narrated to Mark by apostle Peter, so all four men were disciples of Jesus. Let me just say this, there are some of us that have read ur bible well and understand or are still understanding it.

How does this answer the questions I put forward?

Read Mark chapter 16 footnote from NIV. And tell us what is there.

noblefada: @folykaze u can see the ignorance in ur post trying to confuse people with lies, Latin- Greek and Hebrew which was the bible first written, u see someone just pointed out ur folly but ur systematically dodged it. As for the gospel and bible the problem all guys will always have is that the bible is still the only book compilation written over thousands of years and by different people and times that still follow a central theme and quoted by this same authors at different times. Now that's one fact you cannot never discredit.

You are the one obfuscating yourself around with bi.gotry

NIV and other translation has 666 verses in their book of mark. Other translations added those 12 verses as agreed by scholars. How is this a lie?

The oldest gospel manuscript is the book of Mark and the other bible writters copied from it. In as much gospel of mark is fraud, what others wrote is fraud. Why cant you debunk this?

You were crying foul that the bible is inspired...pls which of the bible? Coptic bible or ethiopian orthodox bible or jerusalem bible or catholic bible or protestant bible. Get this fact straight to your head, these bibles got extra or additional books, chapters and verses. Some verses were even distorted among each others. This make the bible fraud work of men. Why cant you rebut this?

oyelude f: the holy bible. incase u dnt know d word bible simply means book and those ones you mentiond r all prefixes

they have extra and lesser books among them. They have extra chapters and additiona verses in the same book. Some verses were missing, some forged it in while some manipulated it. That is why am asking which bible is the inspired or the holy one.

which of the bible is inspired or holy? Coptic bible or ethiopian orthodox bible or jerusalem bible or catholic bible or protestant bible? Answer that pls