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beejaay: i agree this that this thing cant be rushed, it has to be allowed to express itself naturally. knowledge comes to us naturally just that we tend to block it mos times cos of ur religious and cultural conditioning....
op has taken the first step..once that step is started it cant be stopped, no matter how hard he tries it..the energy of awaken knowledge is the strongest in the whole of the universe

OP.....the way is not in the sky, it is in your mind. There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting. Good to know OP kickstart to explore himself and the environment around him.

Where ever you gets to, dont lie to yourself.....nature is really amazing and he will enjoy it

Ray McBlue: You made a lot of sense.

Maybe I was a little hasty in dismissing of the pagans.

"Don't Curse the Darkness, Light a Candle" - Chinese Proverb

princesa: the Greeks looking for wisdom and the Jews seeking for signs and wonders, so says my bible...


since all the hullabaloos written by the 'ism' clans on nl, wont change my faith as a Christian, why do we even bother?


so you all can keep up the argument and crusading and eye-opening and bla bla bla till doomsday, it don't change nothing...


Christians are still the over-powering majority all over the world, so let me see you guys beat that record


#adios Mon ami!

Broad is the road that lead to Hell...and many people ply through it. Compare the world population to population of christians.......stockpiling HELL

Dear dont be scared, God, Jesus and saints are already in Hell..... Just get informed that christianity is taking you to hellfire

Logicboy03: I seriously disagree with your spirituality but this comment is the plain truth. Some atheists just leave chrisyianity and islam then they think that it is over. They dont take time to study other religions and traditions.



I am not a spritual or religious person but at least, i can discuss with poeple from many religions because i took ime to read the basic things about them. Knowledge frees people


Also, we should learn from the Japanese. They are mostly atheists but they respect their budfhist or shinto heritage.


It is a shame that some atheists are looking at paganism from an xtian point of view. No p, respect your culture or at least make money from it to feed your people. Do you know how much Buddhist temples make from tourism.......white people would pay tosee or study our cultural idols and shrines.

We cant really agree on everything. I think disagreement brings about exploration in different angle but should serve for the betterment of Human. This is how competitiveness came and it serving us in every sectors.

Because you didn't agree on spirituality shouldn't be a reason for doing the religitard job. It should either be we leave it as it is or we dig out it originality. We should know that spirit is not monster that talk, eat, drink blood and cause evil like it is depicted by religion. Spirituality also isn't worshipping of demons or practising of demonic acts. Spirituality as I have known is observing, experimenting, questioning, searching and exploring. Spirituality and science are on different sides of a coin.

Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality---carl Sagan

Sam Harris (atheist) in 'kill the buddhist' put more light on buddhism and spirituality. He touched the area of spirituality benefit to science and world at large. You once said he your post that you cant team with illiterate which brings different question to me like who is going to liberate and educate those illiterate if everyone ignore them? If we build Africa, im very sure African (and those yet to born) at home and in diaspora will enjoy it. We should do more than turning our culture to oldspot for tourism.....we should educate ourselves, free ourselves from every oppression and hijack what belong to us from religion dogma.

I agree that which ever side of the coin you choose to work with, we should do it to make mankind better.

I see revolution, coup and impeachment coming.

GEJ sit on the gun powder and wont believe it when it destroy him.

Joagbaje: He heals amputees. Are you one?

He heals amputees...where?

The mistake some of my atheist pal are making is that....they are viewing things mostly from religious angle they claimed to have escaped from. Indeed, mind enslavement is really a bad thing.

Like I have said from time, most atheist here ended where they were after breaking away from christianity and Islam. Only few of them took the chance of exploring tradition and spirituality or other religion out there. When someone here is saying pagan is another religion.....what will he call buddhism, jainism or Ifa? Buddhist, Jain and Ifa practitioners are more likely to be called Atheist, secular and non belief. If a person disbelief in existence of God because of christianity and Islam, such people are not worthy to be called atheist but religatheist. People are programmed to see tradition as evil or as countermate of foreign religion (christianity and Islam). They are freaked with the term deity, spirit, pagan and worship which has been misunderstood with religion influences.

Foreign religion has done more evil to pagan and tradition. Some foolish people here on this forum are deluded to claim tribe like yoruba is from mecca and tribe of jew. They have clothed pagan with their corrupted deformation even among people who owns it. We ourselves are programmed like puppet to destroy what belong to us. I once raised this issue concerning logicboy....though if he see it and rethink or he realise things all by himself, im glad atheist like him can think and reason what paganism is about. Atheist or no atheist, we cant deny our origin and ancestral heritage or we become lost and not progressive as a race in the world.

Everyone with his or her opinion though..... I as a person wont deny my culture, ancestral heritage, philosophy, spirituality and tradition.

It really a good thing to realise that people break the chain of religion and kickstart journey into life.

OP, like my people will say.....when mother gives birth to us, we need to make a way and give birth to ourselve once again. This doesn't mean we need to die or have heirs. Practically, it mean when your parent, environment and people build up stuff around your consciousness.....we should be awaken and self conscious of whats good for us to choose and what should be step on.

We are born without a belief until our parents, environment or people programmed us right from child hood. Like you said, it very hard to let go what ever we belief from childhood but our mind at a point struggle to break itself from every bondage and begins to explore on it own.

You dont need to label yourself OP..........you are simply awaken. The journey of life is a far distant one. The more you walk, the more you realise things. Im sorry you cant know it all at once, it a progressive realisation base on self consciousness....where ever you get, by the time you realise what is truth to you then you can suit yourself with anything you want.

Continue reading, meditating with your environment, explore through mind and question everything.

JesusisLord85: And that is your response. Ha

Erm can you deal with the OP.......get informed cuz you got space in Hellfire

when it comes to yoruba-jew make your U-turn

JesusisLord85: Am I in the holy land?

You said you Jew and observed the law

JesusisLord85: Jews are black africans (though not all africans)

Zephania 3:10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants,
even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

Acts 21:38 "Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?"

Lamentations 4:8 "Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick."

The European 'Jews' stole your identity friend.

Africa gave birth to human race. I am not a jew but African.

You can patch yourself with Igbo as lost jew....keep fooling yourself

JesusisLord85: I am a Jew by blood (Yoruba) and I observe the law.

Happy Rosh Hashanah (Leviticus 23)

Why haven't you started the killing of non-jew, gay, idolators and sorcerers?

Moreover, yoruba are not jew. Take your sermon to feeble minds

princesa: All this 'ism' brothers, ever reading a bible they can't and wont understand...

- we are no longer under the Mosaic law

- Jesus is the fulfilment of the law and prophet

- Jesus has summed all the laws into love for God and love for fellow man

- he has given Christians the HolYspirit to teach them all truth in these new dispensation.

- leave us be to work out our salvation...


how hard can that be?

Jesus didn't abolish the law.

Jesus fulfilled the law

Jesus said you should follow him that is do what he did which is accepting all laws.

Moreover....the OP pointed out from the new testament you accepted. Still wondering why you didn't tear your old testament part of the bible

vickyO: you are just one fierce FOLYKAZIST.
Allow Christians o... We aren't self righteous.
we say the truth when necessary.
We aren't perfect cause we're humans and so the Holy Spirit leads us towards perfection.
We might be guilty as charged but that doesn't give you the right to condemn us.
Moreover, most of those things you posted are so not sin, Christians understand better.

I AM ME AND THERE SHALL BE NO OTHER ME

Call me when he is sentence to jail.

Grainzz: Of course not, but i might also explain my religion to the person so they can better understand me and doesn't think because of my religion i for example "kill dogs" something like that.

What a waste?

macof: I can see u are a deranged human being. it is nt for u to decide who goes to heaven or hell. u nothing close a billion light years from God

breaks rule 8.......you welcome to hellfire bro..

Mr Man, the world is not ending. Whoever is brainwashing you is not doing a good job.

Get yourself into something, make the world a better place for your children

I used to prostrate to red head lizard when I lost my teeth.

I belief throwing the removed teeth on the roof with seven stones and also begging the lizard not to remove it again will make my teeth intact.

My last statement was the right thang......war on earth, war in heaven.

I gave you a task....to make your God's kingdom ministration progressive

macof: 6. Jesus was telling us not to let anger take over us, and not be abusive. It doesn't mean if a man be a fool u cannot tell him to his face as a way to correct him.

Maybe you need to read that verse again. It said he that call his neighbour 'fool'. Your twisting cant help......you are hell property.

7. That's old testament. I don't follow OT anymore

Where do you keep the doctrine of original sin? For all have sinned....your cherry picking is really alarming. Typical christian example.

8. What u are doing right now with this thread is judging others and I also classify it as blaspheming

I came to make you aware how you play ignorantly.....hell ministration.

9. Off course u have to love God, just like u love your papa @home

You love God but dont obey is word. Trashing old testament means disobeying......your like full hell

10. Not behave like a chill literally but be with little seen as children are

What is this you are saying? Freechance to hell.....you fail

Who?

Preach that to goat, sheep, cow, fish and houseflies. They all have souls and needed in the kingdom too. Absence of those, starvation in heaven will be order of the day. As it is on earth, so shall it be in heaven

Foolish question. It like asking why babalawo kiss their hands after shaking.

Another route of making money......nairaland sef na wa

macof: pls wat religion do u practice?

Folykazism

Blame freedom of speech and expression....not him

Come tell us another story. Old news

The person that help a thief in his stealing is also a thief.

IDNOBLE...why are you against this? To help your christianity and church save it azz?

What are you doing to stop that holy fraudster?

Want his type in jail

idnoble135: What does reform mean in that context pls?

Making life better

macof: It is precisely what am being feed in church that am kicking against.
people should be aware that Jesus is the way and the light, only through him can one get to the father. So why refer to Moses abi Moses na ur patron? All of u who call urselves Christians but dwell in the teaches of judaism (another religion which Jesus has tried to reform and make new so u can obtain salvation) are fools. am not abusing u but stating the truth. Pastors tell you pay your tithe and offering and u people run out feeling obligated to do so, any pastor who askes u to pay tithes and offering quoting Malachi 3:8 for u is a fraud and doesn't serve Jesus wholeheartedly because according to the teachings of Paul tithes and offerings are not obligatory in fact not needed of a Christian. tithes were payed to the priests from the tribe of Levi, now tell me are ur pastors from the tribe of Levi? if u wanna follow ur OT then u should be making animal burnt sacrifice too if not you would go to hell. According to the old testament no work should be done on the sabbath day but don't u cook on the day u suppose to go to church? Hell is waiting for u

You feed in the church...how is that my business?

Deal with position 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. It not old testament.....obviously you want to cover your hell trip.....sure you member. I got you