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macof: Lmao...did u bother to continue reading ur Bible after that verse? 1 John 2:8 again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. Pls the OT is not for Christians

agbalej: Never undermine d power of presidency. D guy go hear am.

Mikebis: shey private skul beg moni 4 fg hand 2 build their skul ni

tobechi20: Funny sarcastic thread

FMK: there is not any among the ten comandment rejected by jesus but jesus says that, not with laws that you get salvation. I the master of law am here with you i brought you the most precious thing is the good news of my father so that you can know him just thru me and live with him for ever where i am. just one comandment i give to you is as follow
love your God in your all heart and love your neighbor like yourself because love covers evils

macof: exactly my brother, this folykaze is a crazy guy. He is Jewish and not Christian

biafranqueen: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.Matthew 5:17

FOLYKAZE: OP.....im not going to dispute the fact that somethings happened in your church or other churches which you cant explain personally. But you should be moved to question things and investigate them critically before you tag them or give a final decision on them. To explain the concept of your miracle stuff.....you should agree with me that there are prophetic schools, evangelicalism schools and miracle/healing schools. These are the things we found in our society. If you dont believe me, you can check the following links:

http://www.cacworldwide.net/schools/seminaryabout.asp

^^^^ thats core school of prophet where you can be taught how to see vision.....read mind, random prophet message and receiving message from deity


another one is
http://www.christembassy.org/site/ourministry/healingschool

^^^^ healing school where you learn how to cast demon, make me fall in disguise of spirit- exorcism and doing cheap miracles.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Babajide-School-Of-Prophets-And-Evangelists-Ilesa-Osun-State-Nigeria/218096108295689?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6740079062

^^^ Evangelism school.......daddy is a good preacher and can move mass at once on stage.....

Hope you see now that they are teaching people how to do miracle, heals, prophesy and evangelism (carry more people at once by drawing attention).

What do you think they teach in this school? These are the place were pastors, prophet and miracle workers are recruit. Basically, we should know that these institute are not theological school or where mathematics and english is taught. What then are they teaching pupils there? I think you should question that.


Let me give sides of this schooling and miracle.


- Intellectual stage work: this one is all set up. all paid actors to do this. until this guy heals someone with say....missing limb or something that theres no possible way you can deny it, then believe it. until then its just a fraud trying to get money and fame. you may say "oh he doesnt accept money for this!" guess what.. yes he does. how? he "heals" people. people come to his church. they request tithes and offerings as all churchs do. more people = more church income = more personal payments. Its called acting dont believe it unless it happened to you especially stuff on videos and those they do from crusades. Remember, "god" is nothing more than a nonsense word created by man to explain away all of the things we can't yet understand.
Religion is a disease of the mind, born of fear, which has done nothing but bring untold misery down upon the human race... Imagine when someone is healed from HIV, blindness, diseases....how can you confirm it truth? If it truth, then bring one pastor and lets go to hospital for him to pray. I cant forgive church for this because I lost my grandmother to CAC church that claim medical treatment shouldn't be allow on her unless fasting and prayer. At the end, we were told it God's time for mama to die.

- Random prophecy: Here if you are in a crusade, you know those who are less priviledge by their look and behaviour. A crusade contain thousands people......IF I SHOULD SAY I RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM GOD THAT ONE WOMAN IS HAVING MARITAL PROBLEM FROM DEMONS ....there must be marital problem where more than hundreds people which are mostly women/ladies gather. OR I SAW SOMEONE IS HAVING FINANCIAL PROBLEM FROM GENERATION CURSE ...can it be possible for one among mass without financial problem in Nigeria? If someone admit he is having any of this problem...I can create attributes if im trained on prophetic task or divination.

- Intelligent Prediction and guessing: It is called eisegesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis. The pastor gather little information and build on it. Most of them are vague and could be stretched to fit almost anyone and anything. It's the same thing people do with Nostradamus' predictions.

- Esoteric natural practises : Olive oil is made up of chemical.....handkerchief can hold chemicals and chemical can lead to different reaction. This give birth to casting demon, spiritual falling and hallucination. All these can be done under chemical applications and reactions which are secret to you. Also there are other secret things they do and processes they undertake......if you work with celestial church or C/S, you will get clearer picture.

- Mind controlling : this is the best tool they teach in this school. It involve trauma-based mind control. What do you expect if C. Ronaldo determined to give you an audience and/or possibly chance to shake you. Some people cant stand this.....some will be over-joyous and may loose balance. P square prove this here https://www.nairaland.com/1123555/picture-girls-fainted-during-psquare

If a popular pastor like Adeboye got the chance of touching most people especially female.. Most of them will fall and claim it divination but this is mind game.

Excelboi: 4uck him when necessary to help build the home.

striktlymi: The above analogy is not correct.

Armed robbers and fraudsters are guilty of one or more crimes. Those who fellowship in the respective churches are 'guilty' of none.

tobechi20: He will come like a thief in the night

Alfa Seltzer: In Igbo, chi means personal god.

cashkid18: hmmmm...all i can see is end time war

Elxandre: What about a mad man known crazed for decades by many being cured?

@folykaze do you believe that for any force that exists, there is bound to be some opposing force capable of countering this force?

If as you said some atheists believe in spirits, they have to understand this analogy that good and evil spirits do exist. and a chance therefore that a Governing superior force thus exists.

*And dont you guys think the bible is too detailed and historically astute to be total fiction?..

*sorry about your grandmum tho! churches take things to the extreme sometimes!