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Shymm3x:
Biblical Israel or the modern day European Israel?

IlekeHD:
Roman 3:23

What's the location of heaven...... *turns on my GPS*

Shymm3x:
I believe he was just being biblical. Every sane mind who's highly educated knows that there's no heaven or hell - if anything, both exist on this planet. The good and bad times.

Heaven and hell were just created to scare folks to embrace religion during the medieval ages. However, there might be afterlife cos all ancient cultures did allude to that and that has absolutely nothing to do with judgement day or the biblical heaven and hell.

There's no "good" or "bad" in life - everything just depends on ya mentality and what governs ya conscience. Let's leave religious folks alone to do their thing. If religion guides them to be righteous and embrace humanity, who are we to critique their choice? It's all about loving humanity.

I'm not an atheist - I do believe in the most high, supreme being, and the maker. But I believe we all should just allow everyone do whatever they want to do, if enhancing humanity is the nucleus of their beliefs.

IlekeHD:
Christianity........a nest of confusion.

Since when did a man of God have the power to determine who gets through the gate of heaven?

Actually the bible is quite unclear.

IlekeHD:
You sound like an atheist.....if so, I owe you a drink.

If not...... If the bible claims that we're all sinners [I find that I like to sin quite a lot], how can someone die sinlessly?

Shymm3x:
John Fashanu was an decent striker and very notorious during his playing days. It's not easy to score 100 goals in the EPL, especially for the club he played for. He'll definitely make the list.

John Salako was actually born in Ibadan and he came to the UK when he was 10. Though his mum is white. Don't let his accent fool you cos he talks more white than even a lot of white people lool. He was pretty decent as well, though his goal record isn't that great. He was capped more times by England than John Fashanu (played for England 5 times). And to get that during that era where you had Shearer, Teddy Sheringham, Gazza, Matt Le Tissier, Gary Lineker, Peter Beardsley etc. shows he wasn't that bad.

zimoni:
Good one Bro.

We will beat Super Chicken to Stupor

Ritchiee:
I will have to agree that you have a good team here,lovely bruddah...

zimoni:
His dad is from Ilesha in Osun State. The State of The Living Spring. fvck Aregbe who changed it to Land of Whatever

Ritchiee:
I will have to agree that you have a good team here,lovely bruddah...

Shymm3x:
Lol.

I don't know that many old school Yoruba players to create an all time list.

But if I should ever create one - John Fashanu, and John Salako should make the list.

Shymm3x:
This is my first 11 for the Yoruba all star team:

keeper: Dele Alampasu

Right back: Leon Balogun, Mainz Germany

Left Back: David Alaba, Bayern Munich

Central Defense: Tiago Ilori, Liverpool England

Central Defense: Manuel Akanji, Fc Basel Switzerland

Central midfield: Sidney Sam

Defensive Midfield: Dennis Aogo

Attacking Midfield: Dele Alli, Tottenham England

Midfielder: Moses Odubanjo

Strike 1: Emmanuel Adebayor

Striker 2: Obafemi-martins

4-4-2 formation.

Dominic Solanke can come in for any of the two strikers. And Maurice Edu is also on the sideline for defensive midfield position.

Bring on the Super Eagles in Nigeria and it's going to be an arsewhooping.

Aareonakakanfo:
Oro yen su mi.Please help me clear that part of ritchiee's comment where he mentioned those two Igbos from your own post,I don't want them to come here.I love your team by the way,I'll also try coming up with my first eleven.

The only thing is I'll include 3 or 4 home-based players

Make una no vex say I dey compel una to edit una comment oo.Just trying to make everything tidy

Aareonakakanfo:
Forgiveness kingship can't be abolished.That'll probably the death of tradition and the birth of Lawlessness.First class kings know themselves and I don't think there has ever been any issue regarding that.I believe all South-west states have Council of Obas and Chiefs and they are the ones in charge of that.Michael Olaitan was called up for the 2013 Under-20 world cup

Ritchiee abeg help us clear those skirties names.I don't want them to come here.We should avoid mentioning them

Setaje I've been following DAWN for a very long time and I never knew this.I don't think we've ever had a better chance to get closer to them.They need to see this thread.Nice one aunty mi.Welcome to the COMMONWEALTH

Ritchiee:
I have always said the South Easterners flourished more than anybody else cos of the football politics thingy which had been there from time.Remove this and Yoruba footballers would be the ones to contend with just as Yorubas have the highest number of good players abroad....

TreyQ:
Responsibilities Of An Oba In Ancient Yoruba Kingdom

Oba is a Yoruba term for King, an Oba is the monarchical head of government in ancient Yoruba kingdoms. Some Obas ruled supreme over their kingdoms and subjects with unchecked powers while some had checks and balances like the great Old Oyo Empire (OOE), some have their powers checked as a result of their tributary status to OOE.

Their titles and appellations vary amongst clans in Yorubaland, for example, the Oba of Oyo is called ‘Alaafin of Oyo’ (Man of the palace at Oyo), some Obas’ titles are attributes to their land, examples are Oluwo of Iwo, Osolo of Isolo and so forth.

There are first class and second class Obas. First class Obas are of the ancient Yoruba kingdoms that had been in existence since the primordial era, the Alaafin, Ooni, Alake, Eleko (Oba of Lagos) are all first class Oba.

Second class Obas are the Obas of less popular kingdoms in Yorubaland, the first class and second class Oba do wear beaded crowns and royal regalia, they also hold ‘Irukere’ (fly-whisk).

There are Baale (Father of the land) who are mainly viceroys and do not wear crown as they are affiliates and their towns are tributary to a neighbouring Oba.

An Oba title is not necessarily hereditary in Yorubaland although history has it that at the outset of every kingdom, powers are transferred hereditary I.e. From an Oba to the crown prince but some strange events compromised it, for example, a situation where the Oba has no prince or the prince is too young to become an Oba, a situation where the kingdom was defeated and the royal family was exiled etc. Apart from OOE where The Oyomesi cabinet is chooser of Oba, the common method is, once an Oba dies, the Olu-awo (Head of Ifa) of the kingdom is consulted by the Ijoyes (Chiefs) to follow ancestral means of choosing the next Oba, the Olu-awo would consult the Orisa of different deities and after some rigorous sacrifices and rituals, he (Olu-Awo) would pronounce whom is next to become the Oba.

An ancient Oba in Yorubaland would normally be the wealthiest, most influential and most important personality. They enjoyed life to the extreme, Yoruba would often say ‘Oun je aiye oloba’ (living the life of a king) if someone is living flamboyantly.

The Obas of course had many responsibilities and privileges that come with their high-status role. As divine Obas, they had access to special powers and extraordinary wisdom to carry out their thoughtful tasks. They settle disputes, pass judgements; compensate and punish, protect their subjects, develop the land among others.

An ancient Oba would have a lot of privileges among them would be ‘gbese le’ (the act of an Oba putting his leg on a kneeling woman’s shoulder). An ancient Oba could marry any woman at anytime, all he needed to do was to gbese le (oral history states this is quite uncommon). That gesture signifies ownership and marriage to the woman. If an Oba was on his forecourt, any subject who walked pass must stop to greet him. Therefore, any beautiful woman who catches his eyes might become his wife.

In this case, if the woman was married, an ‘Aroko’ (material message) would be sent to the husband to indicate the divorce and remarry of his wife, he would however though be compensated.

Husbands would warn their wives to avoid the palace, not being disrespectful to the Oba, but to avoid the occurrence of ‘gbese le’

Ancient Obas were highly respected and were often referred to as ‘igbakeji Orisa’ (second to the supreme deity), an order of an Oba is of high magnitude and must be strictly adhered to, anyone who flouted their laws might be executed as shown in this saying: “Eni ba foju di oba, Awowo awo” (Awowo would wreck those who disobey Oba).

Awowo was a machete used to execute those who disobeyed the Obas in Ancient Yorubaland.
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Aareonakakanfo:
OAUTemitayo please post the link to your blog

Have you started adding stuffs to it?

Shymm3x/forgiveness/interloper a nice youtube page for you guys to track our home grown talents

300 pages gift .I try na

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf40-DtiucBzrkSn7WMYsgw

sandraokosun1:
No offence, even if ths is true. Ths girl is just a cheap løosed b.Itch. Years after the way she still says that raw word mess, doesnt denote a rape forced case. She was obssesed with them.
Some guys like rough sex adventures doesnt mean rape.
She hasnt said where she was threatned if no more.
She didnt also say they planned to kill her when she reported them.
She obviously wont have be going to the big hotels, swimming pool, luxury homes,and having sex with them at first date.
She is truly a girl of luxury and must have gotten alot money frm doing ths. Frm her story, her only pain is when they made her do it in presence of people that were strange to her.

You can get that much frm them and expect to call the shots on how they want to penetrate u, which u kept going to them 4.

She is only telling half story

Ritchiee:
Believe and it would come to pass....lol

Aareonakakanfo:
Everywhere Sir Itire/Lawanson/Ojuelegba area

MayorofLagos:
The history of a people determines their desires, expectations, and group behaviour as a people.  The Yoruba people have had a great history in the world.  About 500 years before the earliest European exploration of the coast of West Africa in about 1500 AD, or about 1000 years before the coming of British imperialism in about 1900 AD, the Yoruba had built a rich and sophisticated urban civilization – the most advanced urban civilization in the history of Black Africa.

Upholding this urban civilization was a great economic culture – sophisticated and highly productive agriculture, rich manufactures and crafts, and great commerce with tentacles reaching into most parts of tropical Africa. Yoruba trading colonies existed in the lands of the Upper Niger (modern Mauritania, Gambia, Senegal and Mali), in all coastal lands of West Africa, in the towns of the Hausa, Nupe and Kanuri, all the way to parts of the Upper Nile and the headwaters of the Congo. In a large part of West Africa, the Yoruba language was the language of commerce. A senior French missionary who visited much of the West African coast between 1634 and 1640 wrote that the Yoruba language “is universally used in these parts, just like Latin in Europe”.

Inside Yorubaland itself, large towns flourished. The first Europeans to enter into the Yoruba interior (a group of explorers in 1825-6), wrote that “large towns at the distance of only a few miles from each other” characterized the whole of Yorubaland, and that most of the towns were “densely inhabited” and were “clean habitations”.  The approach to almost every town was “through an avenue of noble trees”, and in each town, public places were abundantly decorated with works of art, especially sculptures. These explorers added that the Yoruba people “have a genius for the art of sculpture…and some of their productions rival, in point of delicacy, any of a similar kind…in Europe”.

The whole country was connected by a cobweb of well-kept and safe roads, protected by the governments of the kings. Where necessary, armed guards sent by the kings accompanied caravans of traders. On these roads, large numbers of traders and their porters were on the move at all times, day and night, usually in caravans numbering hundreds of people. A European missionary wrote that, near Ibadan in 1854, he travelled with a caravan that numbered over 4000 persons.  An American missionary who travelled extensively in Yorubaland about the same time, wrote that if caravans happened to merge, “imposing numbers” of people stretched “over several miles in length” across  the countryside. Along roads throughout the country, there were, wrote the 1825-6 explorers, “rich plantations of yams”, “extensive plantations of corn and plantains”, “plantations of cotton”, many “acres of indigo”, etc. In their summary, they wrote that the Yoruba people were “an industrious race”.

Every town had large marketplaces, each heavily crowded when in session. A Dutch trader who visited some of the marketplaces between 1702 and 1712 recorded that there were, “without exaggeration more than six thousand” people in one marketplace. In one large town, the 1825-6 explorers counted seven marketplaces. In parts of the country, some marketplaces specialized in night-time trading. One American explorer wrote that the goods produced in “the Mediterranean and Western European coast…and the productions of the four quarters of the globe” could be found in every Yoruba marketplace.


Over all this order and prosperity, kings (or Obas) of the many Yoruba kingdoms reigned. The Yoruba founded their first kingdom (the Ife kingdom) in about 900AD; and between that date and 1600AD, they founded over 70 kingdoms more. In about 1600, one of their kingdoms, the kingdom of Oyo-Ile, expanded its territories, conquered many non-Yoruba peoples, and established the largest empire in West Africa.

The political system of the Yoruba was considerably democratic. An Oba’s government was government by a council of chiefs – the chiefs being representatives of the extended family groups (or lineages) of the royal city. Apart from the lineages, society in each town was organized into many associations. The whole system made each town a home of peace and order, of enterprise, of commerce, of entertainments, of large and colourful festivals. The 1825-6 explorers wrote that the Yoruba people were a peaceful people who loved order, who had great respect for the law, who had a lot of self-respect, and who were generally clean in their clothing and in their personal appearances. They recorded that, unlike in other parts of Africa, they could not persuade any Yoruba young men to carry their older explorers for them in a hammock, for any amount of pay whatsoever. When approached for this, Yoruba boys always answered that that was “a task fit only for horses”.

Living in these systems and conditions made the average Yoruba person a freedom-loving – and a fashion-loving – individual. In meetings at every level in the system, the guiding principle was that everybody had full freedom to speak – that everybody, young or old, “has some wisdom to contribute”. All the world over, kings are succeeded by their offspring – usually their first child – and the citizens have no voice in the matter. In contrast, the Yoruba select their Obas from the pool of princes. All the people of the lineage compounds, in open lineage meetings, selected the chiefs.

All these made the Yoruba person a very confident person – confident in his person, confident in society, accustomed to being respected by those who ruled over him. Yoruba women enjoyed more respect than women in most other cultures. The fact that Yoruba women controlled most of the enormous trade of their country contributed to making them free and enterprising, and made them control much more of their country’s wealth than women in most cultures in the world.

The above, briefly, is a sketch of where the Yoruba have come from. To understand Yoruba behaviour in the affairs of Nigeria, one must understand these things. In the politics of Nigeria, the Yoruba may look “disunited”, but in reality, they are solidly united in their ideals and purposes.

So, what do the Yoruba want for themselves and for Nigeria? First, the Yoruba want governments that are dedicated to the welfare and prosperity of their people. That is why the Western Regional government of the Awolowo era – 1952-62, is revered among Yoruba people today – and will probably be revered forever.

Secondly, the Yoruba individual wants to be free in society, and to be able to make political choices and express himself freely. That is why Yoruba people usually look as if they are divided in the political life of Nigeria. But they are not divided; they are only more democratic than most other peoples.

Thirdly, the Yoruba person desires that the rulers of his society should respect him. That is why Yoruba people always feel insulted and very angry when powerful politicians come and rig their votes at elections. It is why Yoruba people have put up most of the violent responses to the rigging of elections in the history of Nigeria.

Fourthly, the Yoruba person wants to feel free to practice any religion of his own choice without molestation by anybody. That is why Yoruba people of all religions are very nervous about the perpetual Islamic radicalism from the Northern Region.

Fifthly, Yoruba people strongly desire an orderly country. They therefore want the various nations of Nigeria, large or small, to be given due recognition and respect, and they want that the constitution of Nigeria should enshrine such recognition and respect. This is why the Yoruba elite have always advocated a rational federal structure for Nigeria – a federation based, as much as possible, on ethnically compact states, and in which the states will have the resources and constitutional powers to promote the development of their people. It is also why, though the Yoruba enjoy population strength and many other kinds of strength in Nigeria, they have never desired to dominate any other nation or to dominate the whole of Nigeria. Their rich civilization teaches them to despise any notion of ethnic domination, or any claim of ethnic dominance, as uttermost folly, a kind of destructive folly that endangers any nation that holds it, and that will ultimately make Nigeria unworkable and impossible to keep together.

Finally, the Yoruba desire that individual Nigerians should be free and safe to live and do business anywhere in Nigeria. That is why they smoothly welcome very many non-Yoruba immigrants in their homeland. The Yoruba always give careful respect to other people in whose land they go to trade or do business, and they expect other people who come to trade or do business in their land to respect them also.

The Yoruba are strongly united around these principles. Leaders may come and go, but the generality of Yoruba people remain united over what they love and desire.

MayorofLagos:
I didnt live in his time but if i did i would have joined in his resistance army to fight Beecroft assault and invasion. He was feared and even though he repeatedly violated the accord of ceasefire and attacked Lagos many times from exile the ego and bragging rights of the British Navy was deeply dented on account.of their losses in battleships and sailors, as well as decorated officers when they bombarded Lagos in 1851.
There were accounts also of portuguese traders who had sailed from Lagos with human cargoes to Brazil and suffered loss and ended up indebted to Kosoko. They were so scared of returning without his full money that they got injunction from the courts for protection against his anger. John Beecroft, who had served as the Queen's Consul in foreign lands and used to being received with respect and parade, was taken aback at the reception he received from Oba of Lagos.

There is lots in his history. Yoruba kings of that time had white slaves...they did not see white man as a superior race. I dont know that this Oba kept white slaves or not but as bad as the Ijebus were and completely protective of their waters and access rights i would not be surprised the Awujale kept some white slaves. British navy had more resistance and headache with the Ijebus than they did with anyone else. I know Egbas threw criminals in prison, white or black, they could care less.

If those were the leaders we have today, minus slavery, wed be in good hands.

Ritchiee:
We have been watching a long time and the Super Eagles have continued going down the ladder.
We must insist through the media that Yoruba want up to at least 8 players in the SUPER EAGLES so that we can win the WC..
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Shymm3x:
That's the rankings for the top-100 footballers in the US for kids between age 15-17.

Shymm3x:
Eff those people - they can stay losing for all I care. There are other African teams to support at global competitions.

Anyway, they can always take solace in fielding uncles against schoolboys at U-17 level and win laurels there.

ProfShymex:
US college soccer prospect for 2016 rankings:

- Matthew Olosunde (ranked number 3 - 2016 class)
- Nathaniel Adamolekun (ranked number 17 - 2016 class)
- Mason Toye (ranked number 61 - 2016 class)
- Aquinas Akinlosotu (ranked number 88 - 2016 class)
- Tunde Akinlosotu (ranked number 92 - 2016 class)

CabbieAC:
Lmaaooo I think I've heard of the Dapo character but I still believe we're talking about different characters

Eleko Agba awo leyin.e je ki a ma tan ra wa

Speaking of Lawanson,I used to play in that huge field close to Jubril martins, can't remember the name now

Back then me and my crew, we would trek from Akerele side to that field. ti a ba n pada bo, ese wa ma ti dudu

I remember my mother coming there to look for me once She sent me on errand and after waiting for me for a long time, she started looking for me in every field I always played Egba ni mumsy fi le mi kuro

I played in Obele as well.I spent part of my childhood there

Then I played in that field inside New era and Ideal girls as well

CabbieAC:
I think Olaitan has been invited before.Still need to confirm tho

Not the biggest fan of Funsho Ojo after watching some videos but he's okay regardless

All in all, lets wait and see.I don't want to paste the tribalist tag on Oliseh yet

He hasn't spent up to 1 year

We're watching

ProfShymex:
Well, let them continue and they'll keep failing like they've been failing for decades now with mediocre players.

ProfShymex:
Dele Alli is supremely talented.

I'm touting Sheyi Ojo to breakthrough as well cos they both came though the ranks at MK Dons. But it seems Sheyi Ojo is too focused on trying to be Beckham cos Dailymail gassed him. Thank God his parents have made him cut his fvcked up straight hair. He needs to focus on football - that boy can play. And he's only 18.

CabbieAC:
Shymex/forgiveness/interloper a lot of people try to downplay the tribalism aspect of it.I mentioned yesterday that tribalism plays a major role.I've sponsored friends for trials before and I know how things work

During trials,these factors are very crucial

-Money
-Connection
-Ability
-Tribe

In that order

but one thing I'll also add is that the Yoruba talents out there find it difficult to get sponsorship and this is where I might have to agree with interloper.The average Yoruba parent is less willing to sponsor his Child compared to parents from other tribes