₦airaland Forum

gallivant:
Failure of Nigerian authorities to tax Nigerians shouldn't be construed an an excuse to spread ignorance. A dumb population can be taxed without a whimper of protest, you just choose not to.

Do you know better than BBC?


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-13200758

Shma:
please, Use another example. This one is the dumbest example I've read

Or, rephrase it.

Meaning BBC reporters are dumb. Because that was an extract from their write up.


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-13200758

What do you have to say again?

Most of you are just ignorant yet you want to be forming mr know it.

Shma:
You just explained my point. But you messed it up on one thing - I think it's on the ground of ignorance. Dumb population has a little to do with the Economy - it plays a very minute role - you can categorize them in unskilled labor - but with huge pp, it can play a great role. I believe Buhari is one of the dumbest humans on the planet but generating high taxes, boosting your country's economy, right?

If GDP is going up steadily, people will pay more tax simply because they're earning and spending more.


Do you understand this statement?

jl115:
my bru.... You literally posted the definition of GDP and still couldn't compute how population is a factor of GDP... ..

Nigerians are more innovative and industrious than our noisy SAns.

Don’t cry. Okay.

jl115:
bolded is exactly what I am saying..... If SA had the same population as Nigeria it would have an economy three times that of Nigeria

If SA is actually better, they don’t need population to have three times that of Nigeria’s GDP because you were once the biggest in Africa. Even America has a bigger economy than China and India with 4 times the population of America.

The point remains SA has been disposed by a more innovative and industrious people of Nigeria.

Deal with this or groan in pain.

jl115:
jeezez you are stup1d…...

Bhuahahaha! Just admit you have been schooled.

theenchanter:
the bolded is what they failed to grab, and I've repeated it more than twice here, only an educated population will make economy grow fast, these idi0ts are just postulating "population" "population" "population" as if population grows the economy from ground.

It is Gross domestic production for goodness sake.

How can dumb population grow domestic production.

I think the SA guy is yet to wake up from the reality of been dusted behind by Nigeria. Kkkkkk

The thing pain am wella.

The other one is just grasping at straws.

Shma:
Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you just want to justify how your imaginary GDP is not rigged?

A huge population contributes to high tax returns, huge labor input, huge consumption rates, huge cash flow...... Name them.

In an African context, big pp plays a huge role in GDP. Population goes hand in hand with the economy. Observe the trend from BC to date; the dynamic in GDP growth can't be tucked away - of course with the impact of population growth rate. Nigeria of 1990 had a mere 95million pp with a paltry $54billion GDP. In 2022, your population in nearly thrice with 8 times GDP. Don't come with the invention and innovation shenanigans cos pp is the enabler of that.

The life-cycle hypothesis can also help you decipher the impact of population on an economy.

Yes, a huge population does not equate to a huge economy, but it is the key driver that greases the wheel for other economic activity - cos here, we talk of numbers.

A dump population can’t create wealth. Goods and services didn’t germinate from the ground rather it was through the innovations of the people and the ability to grow it.

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If GDP is going up steadily, people will pay more tax simply because they're earning and spending more.

This is as a result of people’s innovations that create wealth not dumb population.

jl115:
did I say population is the only factor to economic size? No I didn't, however it is a major contributer, Nigeria is a poor county, same as Kenya and the rest of Africa as can be seen in your GDP per capita..... As I've said before, the only reason that Nigeria as the largest economy in Africa is because of your massive population....Nigeria certainly isn't more wealthy than SA, that's just the facts my bru

How is it measured?

GDP can be measured in three ways:
Output: The total value of the goods and services produced by all sectors of the economy - agriculture, manufacturing, energy, construction, the service sector and government

Expenditure: The value of goods and services bought by households and by government, investment in machinery and buildings - this also includes the value of exports, minus imports

Income: The value of the income generated, mostly in terms of profits and wages.


Where did population comes in?

Population doesn’t produce goods and services but through people’s innovations.

Meaning, Nigerians are more innovative than South Africans. That’s all.

TheGoodJoe:

In that particular set, most paid for the preliminary MRI test. That was why Kanu Nwankwo paid for many of the boys screening.

It was a move by the NFF not to wait for the CAF screening before doing theirs, to prevent CAF screening out an already prepared team just before the competition.

So the scan cost N100,000 and Obinwa came in from America, so he was not listed among those covered by sponsors. Note some agents also paid for screening.

When the result came out, Obinwa failed the screening. It did not mean he was overage. Keep in mind, they used strict requirements. So the mother asking for the scans was out of the question because what criteria will they use to ascertain.

What is wrong in asking for result you paid for? I smell fraud.

daveP:
. BALO speaks

Well, I agree with that part to develop African leagues. It is a very good idea.

eduj:
Aba-owerri is dualised, Enugu-ph is dualised, Aba-ikot ekpene is dualised, pH road is dualised,Aba road dualised. Thought you lived in Aba ? You should know what's going on at that road since last year na.

This is your governors lamentations that 90% of federal roads in ogun are bad.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/482313-ogun-federal-roads-neglected-by-fg-abiodun.html

Another one on state of federal roads in ogun

https://guardian.ng/features/economic-activities-dim-as-federal-roads-turn-death-traps-kidnappers-stronghold/

Nlc blocking Lagos to Abeokuta road last year October because of its world record potholes
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/10/bad-roads-nlc-residents-block-lagos-abeokuta-expressway-again/

A concerned ogun mans lamentations about bad roads in ogun just last month
https://www.thecable.ng/when-will-the-bad-roads-in-ogun-state-be-fixed/amp

So my brother, are you sure you still want to roll down this path ?I mean about bad roads ?

Remind me again where your state ranked in open defecation Can you still remember ? Such a developed state, yet money rituals is at an all time high.

The SE can be excused on the state of federal roads because we've never had a vice president talk more of a president from the SE.

What's your excuse ? What was your son OBJ doing during his tenure ? I mean, apart from the odi genocide he ordered ,banning and granting cement monopoly , granting MTN a decade monopoly to rip Nigerians off, killing off of Nitel, post office ,our railways and many more.
What was he doing ?

Now another of your son's is Vice president, he is a gentle detribalized individual, but what exactly is he doing apart from giving big speeches ?

No wonder you quoted prayer camps among development enablers in ogun

Aba Ikot-Ekpene road in picture. Keep lying to yourself.

That place is not motor able. You have to take a bike to Ikot-Ekpene. Bloody liar.


https://straightnews.ng/fec-approves-reconstruction-of-aba-ikot-ekpene-20-federal-roads

eduj:
To many lies in a less than 300 word writeup -bro you be sat.n oh!!

There is nothing today like ogun cargo airport,it's not in any FAAN newslater- only in beer parlour gists.

Most federal roads in Abia is a dual carriage road. Do you even know that Abia shares boundaries with more than 5 states ? I just mentioned federal roads in Aba alone and you got Hbp.

And till we get proper data like we see about registered voters, the fact that ogun state has more industries than all states in Nigeria is mere conjuncture-not a fact and industries doesn't make a state more developed than another.

Since you accept that the SE comes out tops in federal exams ,what are we still arguing about ? Education is about the individual not the structure .

If you have the best campuses in the SW ,yet the best students are from the SE, it simply means that the SE is top-simple as that .

Let's come back to express roads in ogun ,wasn't it just last year that ogun got a respectable tolled express way that leads to Lagos ? Other express road in your state are mudpits for growing mudfish.

No matter the number of flyovers Ebonyi has ,it greatly outnumbers whatever figure you can conjucture in ogun- even if we lovingly add the abandoned flyovers in ogun,you guys will still play catch up.

For all una ..boasting, you all are underachievers.

In the SE, we've had state government invest in building gas pipeline's to industrialize Aba. We've seen state government's build airports in owerri in imo,Umueri in Anambra and ebonyi . Your ogun never did any of such,yet you claim a development over the SE ? Are you well ?

Answer the questions and stop dribbling yourself.




1. How many lanes are those express roads? Apart from Enugu Port Harcourt express that is dualized, which one is dualized? grin

Are they not filled with big pot holes?

You even mentioned Aba - Uyo express? shocked is it the one you will pass through Ogbor Hill to Ikot Ikpene?

KillMNKnow:
changed it because of serious relationship

I guessed as much. Wish you best of life.

KillMNKnow:
Hmm IPOB scammers

What happened to your instagram?

eduj:
the way you parrot federal roads never seem to surprise me- Aba alone has Aba-owerri express road,Aba-uyo express,Aba-pH (,falls under Enugu-ph express) so that makes you a misinformed lier.

where are pictures from this airport supposedly under construction ? which boldfaced lie is this ? we have seen pictures from that of Anambra and ebonyi- where is pictures of those from ogun ? and who told you Aba inner-city roads are worse off than those of ogun ?

Do you even realize your comparing a city to your whole state ? Flyovers serve a purpose not for decoration but even at that,ebonyi has more flyovers than ogun hence it's more developed- next !!



Another lie.Ariaria
a formost commerce and production centre has a dedicated power plant . Does that your little market in ogun have one ?in addition we have the alaoji power plant and Aba ipp that will soon come on stream.

Aba has manufacturing companies densely concentrated in it also.ranging from gunieas brewery, Nigeria brewery,Aba malt plant,afro beverages, inner galaxy industrial estates, pz, glass force-now console group, GZI , valumbra flour Mills and many more coming up (I listed only the multinationals I know of,no Nigerian owned factories).

Till foremost data is released ,we will never know the cities in Nigeria that has more manufacturing companies.What is stopping the release of this type of information ? a state by state list of registered manufacturing entities.



my mistake ,I should have said mid-rise building's (5 stories to 10) . And you keep exposing your ignorance of Aba .But please where exactly is this high rise (15-18 stories ) in ogun ?


and yet jamb,waec and most other public exams,the SE is dominant.Why ? Beautiful and numerous building's yet no quality content -you must be a graduate of one of such.

Even Ebonyi have a greater cutoff mark to get into Nigeria's unitary school than some states in the SW.



the above doesn't deserve an answer because it's a lie

1. How many lanes are those express roads? Apart from Enugu Port Harcourt express that is dualized, which one is dualized?

Are they not filled with big pot holes?

You even mentioned Aba - Uyo express? is it the one you will pass through Ogbor Hill to Ikot Ikpene? Bhuahahaha! Ishimiri. Pototo road na em you dey call express? I can see how desperate you are to project Abia State as more developed than Ogun State.

For your information, Ogun State has more dualized and well paved express than Abia State. Having express with potopoto and big potholes is not infrastructure development.

2. Google for Ogun Cargo airport and see for yourself.

3. Point of correction. I am comparing Ogun State with other SE states.

4. How many flyovers and bridges do you have in the whole of Ebonyi?

5. Ogun State as a state has more industries than all the states in Nigeria. My points remain the same.

6. According to Emporis, A building with 12 floors automatically becomes an high rise whether the height is known or not. Opic buildings in Abeokuta are 12 floors. E shock you? no place in Abia State can you find such.

7. Covenant university is the second best ranked university in Nigeria behind UI. Sorry.

After all, that is where you will enter with your Jamb and Waec. How come all SE universities are not top 1 to 10? Miracle centers

eduj:
why are you listing prayer camps ? all you guys from SW knows about Ariaria -heck that's where most of una clothes ,jeans comes from.

please along which part of faulks road is called ishimiri ? since you know Aba well ?

and please answer my previous question .

Obasanjo's farm, two prayer camps and a market I never heard of till today are the evidence that ogun is more developed ? thank God you called them landmarks -no longer development indices.

Thank you for bringing Abakaliki into the thread. Also thanks for indirectly pointing out that,that city is still developed than any city in your ogun state.

which city in ogun beats onitsha, Aba, Abakaliki, Enugu or owerri in development ?

you think develop is having industries alone? that wrong . We see Dubai , California as places well developed but not industrialized like many less known Chinese or American cities.

in terms of development be bringing out Lagos not that squatters colony called ogun

Which all? Stop deceiving yourself. Very few here knows Ariaria market. I never heard about it until I went there but everyone in Nigeria knows about Ota farm, Redemption Camp, MFM, Canaanan Land etc in Ogun State.

I mentioned these places because they are popular and attracts millions of people per year. Simple and short..

Some of these places have hotels, university, sports facilities, TV and radio stations, housing estates, schools, malls etc.

The point remains there are more popular areas in Ogun State than Abia State. Development yans is just another way of deviating from the point of debate in this context.

When you get to Aba, ask for the meaning of Ishimiri, okay. You definitely don’t have an Idea.


Can you please show me where I wrote those aforementioned places are evidence Ogun State is more developed than SE states?

Stop confusing yourself and stick to discussion.


Hahahaha! Abakaliki developed than all cities in Ogun State.

Abakaliki can’t stand beside Arepo not to talk of Abeokuta.

Abeokuta is more developed than Onitsha, Aba, Abakaliki and Owerri. However, we are talking about having more developed infrastructures in a state as a whole. And that’s why Ogun State is more developed than SE states. Gbam!

Apart Owerri in Imo state, Onitsha and Awka in Anambra, Abakaliki in Ebonyi, and Umuahia in Abia State, mentions other cities in those states with soft and hard infrastructures.

I reiterate, Ogun State is more developed than SE states.

eduj:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/479853-ogun-governor-ignores-late-fathers-wishes-owes-workers-pensioners.html
from ogun state.

Shoe business is still trending .Your putting or have in your wardrobe a clothing that's made in Aba.
And there is nowhere called ishimiri in Aba.stop regurgitation of I hear say facts.
you access Ariaria through mcc-samek road(beautiful road) , thought you lived in Aba.

Today omuma road is being constructed (it also leads to ariaria)

faulks road is being redone with reinforced concrete ,if people can find there way to agbara and many parts of ogun despite murderous roads,then others definitely can find there way to Ariaria.

BTC ? seriously ? when did you even reside at Aba ? sure you're one of those know it all yoruba corpers that served in the East. you think traveling through Enugu-ph, aba-owerri , Owerri -anambra roads on your way home after NYSC means you can act like you lived at those places?

you even know of Ariaria ? that shows how popular it is,but remind me again of any internationally popular market in ogun ? I can't seem to have heard of any -how about you ?

The fact you don't know what Ishimri means in Aba proves you don't know much about ABA

Go and ask the Slogan Ishimri then we can discuss further.

Oga! I told you I lived in that place for almost a decade and you are still asking me if I know Ariaria, hmmmm! Even Abakaliki is more developed than ABA. I know ABA more than you.

Nobody in the SW who has never been to ABA knows Ariria Market though it is the most popular landmark in Abia state but who doesn't know Redeem Camp, Ota farm, Animal care, Canaan Land, MFM prayer ground, Adire Market etc. There more popular landmarks in Ogun State than Abia state. Don't compare.

eduj:
I kindly disagree with you. Is it too difficult for you to swallow ? you claim ogun is more developed -no problem..

And I say ogun is no where near development .No airport, no sea port,bad roads -more bad than anywhere in the SE, open defecation is still a tradition in that state, no 24 hour electricity ,no sky scrappers,Aba even has more highrises than any city in ogun state, in terms of industries ,they both are slightly apart- so what makes ogun more developed ?
in terms of commerce Aba is ontop ,is it SME's ? in terms of education,we know which region have been leading in federal exams.

How exactly do you measure this your development ? we see humongous igr figures from ogun yet,the can't complete there flyovers or even one out of two airport projects groundbreaking has been done for.

1. In terms of Transportation infrastructure, Ogun State is ahead. 90% of Lagos- Ibadan express road is in Ogun state. There is still Lagos- Benin Express. In fact, more payed express in Ogun state than in the SE.

Inter city roads are paved and still undergoing constructions. Streets are payed in Major cities unlike ABA. There is railway stations and railway line in Ogun State. Two airports under construction. One will be completed in May. Transportation system will begin in few months time. Ogun has more bridges, flyovers, tunnel interchange etc than Abia state.

2. You have no idea why manufacturing companies are highly concentrated in Ogun State more than any state in Nigeria. Electricity in Ogun State is better than any state in the SE.

3. Apart from Seven deck along Faulks road, which building is higher than that in Aba? There's no single High-rise in Abia state because high-rise buildings are buildings with more than 7 floors. This can be found in Ogun State.

4. In terms of Education, Ogun State has more and better schools and universities than any state in the SE. Education doesn't stop a Waece or Jamb.


5. That's a stall news because those Flyovers are currently under construction.

Ngorbungor:
Please what infrastructure are you talking about?

Check for the meaning of Soft infrastructure and hard infrastructure. Then let us discuss.

Ngorbungor:
Please go for medical check up, please I don't think you know what you are saying

I reiterate. Ogun State is far more developed than States in the SE.

In terms of soft and hard infrastructural development. Facts

Ngorbungor:
So you mean Mowa, Abeokuta and it's brothers are more developed than ABA, Onitsha, Eungu city ?

I mean Ogun State as a whole is more developed than States in the SE.

walefresh3:
Leave nyamiri alone... Dey see residential building has only development... No single industries... Gdp and vat .. enugu can't compete with ogun.... Gun state it's very big and more bigger than enugu...

Ogun state 28000 klm
Enugu 7000 klm..

Enugu apart from the capital is not develop at all.

It doesn’t come into the equation at all at all.

eduj:
I have been to ogun and my shoe emphatically disagree's with you chairman.

there is enough abandoned projects in that place(both roads and flyovers ) to make one think it's an art form is that the development you mean ?

travel ,it's obvious you haven't done much of it

Why your shoe no disagree for inside Aba Ishimiri roads?

When I talk about development, I am talking about both soft and hard infrastructural development.

Base on this, no state in SE is as developed as Ogun State. Neither does Abia state come close.

You had better travel and see for yourself. I doubt if you have been to at least two cities in each states in the South. I doubt.

eduj:
you lied . you lived ,not live in Aba .There is a difference. Heck, how can one even know you lived in Aba ? The stat that forms the base of this thread total knocks out your claim that Abia is the worst state in the south. There are arguably only 2-3 states in the south with more manufacturing multinationals in them than Aba.
There is arguably same number of states with more local owned companies than Aba. And there isn't a state in the south that beats Abia in terms of shoes,clothing and metal fabrication -so how is Abia the worst ?



when last where you at okigwe road primary school? osusu primary school? and a whole lot of others .Even ones in the villages aren't left out, most of them have mini stadiums now.

Please park well if you don't have better talk- even many states in the south are yet to implement the new minimum wage structure to it's fullest.

Teachers are still own salaries for months. Is that a lie?

Abia state is the worst state in the South in terms of infrastructural development. Both soft infrastructure and hard infrastructure are missing in that state.

What about Boys Technical college?

If you have stadiums without teachers paid regularly, how can you expect quality teachings from the teachers?

In this case, expect examination malpractices being aided by hungry teachers for survival.

Faulks road leading to Arriaria market is not in a good condition. Ishimiri has taken over the road.

My man, no come here dey lie.

The shoe business is no longer as profitable as before because bad roads has chased away potential customers from Aba. Coupled with the fact that Chinese product don finish the shoe industry.

My man again, you are not talking to a novice.

eduj:
what exactly is spectacular in this picture? please travel more ok ?

There is no major city in the SE I have not been too. So, shove your travel yan for your pocket.

I reiterate, Ogun State is more developed than SE states.

codemaniacs:
Awoniyi hasn't scored a normal goal in Eguavoen's team so he should be benched..

Nacho doesn't track back and this weakens the midfield and defense.

Onuachu needs crosses, he doesn't press and plays sluggishly..

Osimhen, Dessers, Dennis, ademola lookman, Samuel adegbenro, terem moffi, David okereke, Umar sadiq should be the strikers..

Ademola Lookman is not a striker oooo.

rickyrex:
the same Ogun wey I live abi nah another one? Bia keep mute abeg

Where you dey live?

Shevchenkko:
Cheap talk. I won't argue with you. Ogun state that has no single motorable road. Lol

Ibadan- Lagos express road is in Anambra, right??

IamAtikulate:
Travel, Yoruba people said NO.

This is your developed Abeokuta


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dfMRuBoFA0

Yoruba cities are criminally over rated.

Historical video. Next!

Bayyajidda:
City of shit doesn't need to be a City to be termed that. It's a figurative expression.

Stop deceiving yourself, Ogun State is far more developed than the states in SE. Gbamsolutely!

Shevchenkko:
So to you,ogun state is more developed than Anambra state ? Keep fooling yourself

Which Anambra?

I don go Amichi, Nnewi, Onitsha, Oko, etc

My man, Ogun State is far more developed than Anambra state.