Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
mazimee: Iwobi didn't reject Nigeria, same with Victor Moses.
Tammy Abraham's case is a serious one, he rejected and made it clear that Nigeria was never in his plan.
If we should accept him now , then his likes can go on and try their lucks in their country of birth and come back when they lose form. Is that the meaning of leftover? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:43pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
Humility017: don't mind him.... from the players he listed....only tosin is a super eagles prospect...being that he has not rule out the possibility of playing for the super eagles yet...
that man city guy and solanke don't feel Nigeria one bit....
I got to dig deep into him after making his senior team debut for man city against Chelsea....in the FA cup sometime ago...
dude don't even know if he has a Nigeria link.... Really!? Can you tell us how? Don't forget Felix Ukpobai, Akpoguma and Torunarigha don't fell Nigeria but we are still chasing them till date. Are you not aware? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
Humility017: just tell us...you want to make the super eagles a leftover team...filled wit English nationals.... What do you mean by left over? If it is what I am thinking then Vicmo and Iwobi should be classified as super leftovers.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:35pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
Humility017: only the bolded is open playing for us.... the rest of them wanna play for the Queens country...
I won't support the nff make approach for Tammy again....if he wanna play for the super eagles he should talk to his uncle...pinnick. Don't you think the WC could tempt them now? Honestly, these boys are really good. I agree with the @bolded. Anyhow, we need Tammy Abraham in our SE. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:31pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
I also think Jordan Ibe should be approached because I really love his work rate. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:20pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
mazimee: He doesn't deserve a whole country bowing to him, he is not even Mbappe or Messi Forget. Tammy Abraham is a very good striker and don't forget he is just 19. I hope we approach him now that his stock has gone down. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:16pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
Daejoyoung: Approaching Tammy Abraham again would be a disgrace, an insult to a country like Nigeria. Why? Make we forget past abeg. To forgive is divine. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:07pm On Dec 21, 2017 |
I think NFF should intensify moves to approach some of these players now.
Tosin Adarabioyo - Manchester City
Dominic Solanke - Liverpool
Lookman Ademola - Everton
Kehinde Tosin - Manchester United
I think we have to forget the past and still approach Tammy Abraham. After all, Zaha also shuned Ghana before he latter turned out for them. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:51am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: You probably dont follow CAF/FIFA as much as I do.
Point to the 4 paras you were referring to. forgiveness: Oga! Those are South Americans. They are marketable.
CAF award was introduced by a French magazine. Finito. Why do you think they gave it to Jean Managa Onguene ahead of Segun Odegbami in 1980 despite the fact that he helped Nigeria to win their first AFCON in 1980? Only French won it before the main CAF award was introduced and unfortunately the other French President favoured his colonial colleagues.
French has influence in FIFA to promote players from their league.
French influence in CAF no get part two. Wetin you think say make Ikpeba win?
However, Nigerian arrogant nature towards other African countries whenever they win has denied them the favour from them.
Yaya winning Apoty because he scored two goals does not hold water for me because Taye Taiwo also scored a goal in the finals that won Marseille their Coupe de la Ligue and he was the man of the match. Don't forget he scored a total of 5 goals from his difficult defensive duty that same 2010/2011 season Yaya toure won the award.
What did Seyedou. Keita do that same season?
Did he also score 2 goals in any finals?
CAF can deceive the mumus not me. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:47am On Dec 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: Season achievement for both club and country. Now list Obafemi Martins achievement s for Nigeria in the said period. Why is this simple task proving too difficult? I have listed that of Eto'o Asking for Martins stats for 2003/2004 is inconsequential because I never considered him or included him in that discussion. So, tell me about Eto 2003/2004 achievements and forget about Martins. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:29am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: How can you hold CAF responsible for awards awarded not by it but by an independent magazine?
You have been grabbing straws.
CAF started awarding early 90s. And from Nigerians dominated 1993 - 1999.
You mentioned French influence in FIFA and I showed you how no French connection stopped Kaka, Ronnie, Messi, CR7 from winning FIFA WPOTY, you brought another straw that they are South Americans (after killing your French connection argument). Lol
Guy, stop the petty victimization cry, if you performed very well, no connection anywhere will stop you from winning any award.
A Weah from an English speaking small African country as Liberia even won WPOTYand APOTY.
Do very well and see whether anyone will deny you any award.
I just dont like cry-babyism. Well, everybody is entitled to his microscopic view points. Chikena. It seems you don't know much about the history and politics of CAF. Even FIFA knows they are corrupt. Didn't you hear how one Former FIFA President influenced a player to win FIFA award. Now, let us forget all these and move on to my questions in my last comment Can you pls answer the last four paragraphs? Thanks |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:21am On Dec 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: List Martins achievement for Nigeria between 2003-06 in no particular order. I thought CAF award depends on a season performance. Why should I list all his achievements? Tell me what Eto did in 2003/2004. Thanks |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:08am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Daejoyoung: Afcon title, Afcon top scorer, confederations cup, all of these were before the 2002/2003 season. What did he do specifically in 2003 to win the award? Mallorca was not a top team then. Some have downplayed Odemwinge in 2011 for making his exploits in WestHam. Haha! Let us wait for his defensive response.  Maybe CAF accumulated all his past achievement to award him in 2003 and 2004.  Odenwingie was EPL African best player of the year for that season and he won EPL player of the months two times which made him the sixth player in the history of EPL to had won it. He broke many West Brom's records in the procces but he was not even nominated for APOTy award. Why? Wetin yaya do? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:52am On Dec 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: I discussed extensively how the SE defeated Cameroun ,with Bonfere giving Christian Chukwu tips in 2004 before the world cup qualifiers in Uyo. Its laughable in your skewed imagination, I said Eto'o won the Afcon in 2004.
What Eto'o did to win in 2002/03? 2003/04?
Afcon title Afcon top scorer confederations cup finalist Copa de rey (Mallorca) Mallorca all time leading scorer Pichichi [ 2nd to Villa while at Mallorca, lost this award on the final day]
List Obafemi Martins record for Nigeria between 2003-06. I'm asking you a second time. Haha! Nobi you?  Can you pls list those achievements according to their seasons? Thanks |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:44am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: LOL.
Better concede. You keep introducing more ridiculous arguments.
French connection in FIFA. I thought you guys talk of French connection only in CAF.
Ronaldinho, Kaka, CR7 and Messi must have had "French connection" too.  Oga! Those are South Americans. They are marketable. CAF award was introduced by a French magazine. Finito. Why do you think they gave it to Jean Managa Onguene ahead of Segun Odegbami in 1980 despite the fact that he helped Nigeria to win their first AFCON in 1980? Only French won it before the main CAF award was introduced and unfortunately the other French President favoured his colonial colleagues. French has influence in FIFA to promote players from their league. French influence in CAF no get part two. Wetin you think say make Ikpeba win? However, Nigerian arrogant nature towards other African countries whenever they win has denied them the favour from them. Yaya winning Apoty because he scored two goals does not hold water for me because Taye Taiwo also scored a goal in the finals that won Marseille their Coupe de la Ligue and he was the man of the match. Don't forget he scored a total of 5 goals from his difficult defensive duty that same 2010/2011 season Yaya toure won the award. What did Seyedou. Keita do that same season? Did he also score 2 goals in any finals? CAF can deceive the mumus not me. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:48am On Dec 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: What carryover? Must you be petty? obviously l wanted to give you benefit of doubt that you couldnt have compared any African player with 04/05 Eto. Especially not when Samuel was crowned 3rd best player in the world, the second African ever to mske the podium. FIFA is FIFA, CAF is CAF. Ok, let me agree you thought Eto won AFCON in 2004 hence your wrong submissions.  Let me also agree Eto was the best in 2004/2005 season but can you pls explain what he did to win the award for the 2002/2003 and 2003/2004 season? Oh! I remember he played for middle table Mallorca then.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:36am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Nigerian Duo React After Man City Debuts; Guardiola Hails Adarabioyo AgainPublished: December 20, 2017 Nigerian Duo React After Man City Debuts; Guardiola Hails Adarabioyo Again For the first time in his managerial career, Manchester City coach Pep Guardiola handed minutes to three talented Nigerian players in his side's win on penalties against Leicester City in the League Cup on Tuesday night. Central defender Tosin Adarabioyo impressed in a full shift for the Citizens, Lukas Nmecha came off the bench in the 88th minute and the two players were joined on the pitch by Tom Dele-Bashiru in the first minute of second-half stoppage time. Lukas Nmecha and Tom Dele-Bashiru took to the social networks to express their joy at making their maiden appearances for the Citizens shortly after the game at the King Power Stadium. Nmecha said : ''Great experience getting my debut today, the team and fans were fantastic! �''. Dele-Bashiru added : ''What a great win! Also very humbled to make my professional debut���'' Meanwhile, City coach Pep Guardiola was pleased with the performance of Tosin Adarabioyo, and told Manchester City's official website : ''Our young players played so well. Brahim (Diaz), Tosin (Adarabioyo) and Phil (Foden) played really well and I’m so happy.'' Manchester City's Nigerian contingent will discover their next opponents in the League Cup when the semi-final draw takes place on Wednesday night. Igho Kingsley http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25896 |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:47am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: You are very funny.
Drogba that was the 10th best player in the world in 2005 was the player you want to compare with Martins?
Essien, the best player in French League and 22nd in the World for 2005?
You talked about FIFA stuff, but those 3 players got bigger recognition by FIFA, and you want the order to change in Africa? The French connection worked for Drogba and Essien in that FIFA stuff. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:46am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: You are very funny.
Drogba that was the 10th best player in the world in 2005 was the player you want to compare with Martins?
Essien, the best player in French League and 22nd in the World for 2005?
You talked about FIFA stuff, but those 3 players got bigger recognition by FIFA, and you want the order to change in Africa? OK. What did Samuel Eto do in 2003/2004 season that made CAF gave him the award? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:18am On Dec 21, 2017 |
Jarus: Martins made the initial long list for 2005 APOTY but could not have made the Top 3.
Tell me which of Eto'o, Essien and Drogba you think he could displace as top 3 for that year?
He was nominated for the long list FIFPro Young footballer of the year, how do you want him to make final 3 ahead of Etoo, Drogba and Essien that were nominated in Top 30 in the world for senior category?
Eto'o and Drogba were among FIFA WPOTY Top 10 in 2005. Essien also made the initial shortlist and came 22nd in the world. Essien was also voted best player in French league for 2004/2005 season.
These are people you think should not make Africa's top 3 ahead of Martins in 2005?
My Naija people need to follow other players too. Football doesnt revolve around Nigerian players only. I thought you said Obafemi Martins never did anything?  I only showed you that FIFA stuff to prove you wrong. However, Martin's performance for 2004/2005 was better than Drogba and Essien combined yet he didn't make the top three. Why? Drogba only scored 10 goals in the EPL that season and scored a total of 16 goals with just 6 assists yet he came second. Why? Don't tell me he played for a bigger club than Martins because Inter Milan was a better club than Chelsea then, and don't tell me he won more trophies than Martins because Martins won both the Coppa Italia and Supercoppa Italiana. Don't tell me Drogba won the league while Martins didn't win because Samuel Eto was crowned with APOTY award in 2003 and 2004 despite the fact that he just won Coppa del rey in 2002/2003 season and nothing with terrible middle table same Mallorca in 2003/2004 though he scored 22 goals.. What did Essien do than that season? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:44pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Danycrusoe: While we r arguing the Cafe awards, the players of Rivers united protesting or should I say pleading with Rivers state governor to pay their entitlements since 2014 b4 Sharks and Dolphins were merged to become Rivers united. But this is bad from the governor to allow grown men lie flat and kneel and look comfortable with it despite the fact that they are asking for what's their right.
Poor image for our league. I personally don't mind if we v just 8 teams in the league so far they do things professionally including paying as at when due. Na wa ooooo. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:38pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Daejoyoung: lol, carry over from 2002. They just wouldn't admit that these awards tilt towards the threshold of sentiments than anything else. Hahaha! Me tire ooo. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:37pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
terzurum5: Is that how the Coach criticizes all his players? or is Onyekuru the only player that is not measuring up to par in the team.
Funny thing is that you do not get to hear the Coach's criticism about the main striker.
This Coach is not a good man manager as far as he continues with Onyekuru's criticism in the media.
If Onyekuru is not performing well in the striking role. He should teach him.
Forgiveness stop judging Onyekuru with his Coach's criticism. Even before the coach confirmed he can't play the CF role I already knew and said he can't. Forget the coach matter. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:33pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:21pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Joebie: Tosin Adarabioyo's Carabao Cup, WhoScored stats I watched him closely yesterday and I was impressed with his performance. This is the time to lure him to the WC. He is going to be a very good addition to the WC team. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:14pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Jarus: Who talked about trophies?
No be una Moses people dey talk about trophies.
This thing is based on individual perforamance. Gaskiya. I have said that here many times.
Martins never deserved African best in any year. You were the one that brought him into this argument. If Martins never deserved African best, don't you think he at least he deserved to be nominated for 2004/2005 season? Abi can you explain why FIFA recognized Martins if thoroughly he did nothing? Dong Shortlisted for FIFPro Young Player Award China U-20 forward Dong Fangzhou has been shortlisted with some of the game's biggest names for the first FIFPro Young player of the Year award, which will be presented on September 19 in London. FIFPro, the worldwide representative organization for professional players, released their shortlist of 12 names for the award on Thursday, which included the 20-year-old Chinese striker alongside Holland's Arjen Robben, Brazilian Robinho, Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo, Freddy Adu of the United States and England's Wayne Rooney. Dong was signed by English Premier League giants Manchester United from China Super League side Dalian Shide in a high-profile transfer last year. He spent last season at United's feeder club, Royal Antwerp, scoring six goals as they finished fourth in Belgium's second division. Dong was also part of the China squad that finished second at the AFC Youth Championship in 2004, scoring the winner in his side's 1-0 victory against Qatar during the group stage. FIFPro Young player of the Year award nominees: Dong Fangzhou (China), Javier Mascherano (Argentina), Wayne Rooney (England), Arjen Robben (Holland), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany), Robinho (Brazil), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Cesc Fabregas (Spain), Rio Mavuba (France), Giorgio Chiellini (Italy), Obafemi Martins (Nigeria), Freddy Adu (United States). (China Daily via FootballAsia.com August 22, 2005) http://www1.china.org.cn/english/sports/139317.htm |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:36pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
goldfish80: List Martins record for Nigeria in 2003/2004 let's compare notes with Eto's who guided Cameroun to an Afcon title and Fifa confederations cup final. A tournament he was the top scorer.
If you dont list Martin's achievement for Nigeria in 2003\04 I wont take you serious henceforth. Oga! I hope u do agree u were wrong before I continue to counter this ownow!?  However, we are talking about 2004/2005 season and not 2003/2004 season. Thank you. Did Cameroun win the 2004 Nations cup?  I don't know oooo.  Abi na 2002 carry over come 2004.  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:25pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Jarus: You see why I select people I argue with on NL.
This guy is comparing Martins of 2005 with Eto'o that was 3rd best player in the World in 2005!
Eto'o that made World 11, European 11, scored 25 league goals with a Martins that scored a paltry 11 Serie A goals!
This is ridiculous. I thought goals doesn't matter, rather it is the numbers of trophy that matters!?  Besides, Eto scored only 29 goals that 2004/2005 season while Martins scored 22 goals that 2004/2005 season. As you can see it was 2004 and not 2005. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:45pm On Dec 20, 2017*. Modified: 5:27pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
goldfish80: Kelechi and so many others have won the CAF young player award without a single cap. It is the young player award after all. Oga! Didn't you claim Obafemi Martins was not in the African scene as at 2004/2005 season and it was due to that single reason he missed the award? And who told you Martins was not capped before the nominees were announcement that season? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:38pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Jarus: But there was an Eto'o playing and making big impact for Barcelona atthis time. You mean Eto's impact in only La liga outshined Martin's impact in Seria A, Coppa Italia and UEFA Champions league?  I see. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:28pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
goldfish80: Martins had himself to blame. The delay in acceptance to play for for Nigeria had him without a record in the African scene. I wonder why Ghanaians don't feel hated. After all, Asamoah Ghyan was listed as Ballon dor nominee while at Sunderland, yet he didn't win APOTY Ha! How come he won Caf young player of the year the same season if he doesn't have a record in the African scene that year?  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:07pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
goldfish80: Yaya Toure had a great season for Man city. His 10 goals from Midfield pushed Man city from a midtable team to the top 3. He crowned it all withan Fa cup whichhe basically handed over to city afte 35yrs trophyless. . .
I dont know what youre trying to prove.
Its academic, if you want to be recognised in Africa, dont play for the likes of Wigan, Portsmouth or Westbrom. . . . Nobody will take you serious.
It is that simple Oh! I see. Obafemi Martins played for middle team in 2004/2005 season hence the award eluded him. |