₦airaland Forum

Empiree:
I honestly don't understand you anymore.

What's vexdacool gotta do with this?. And must I know the group?. I am absolutely not obligated. The group can do whatever they want. Who cares?.

You could save all these back to back talks by simply posting their activities and we scale it on shariah of Islam. If it is against Islam we will condemn it. If it's commendable we will appreciate them. Simple isn't?.

It doesn't have to be Sufi this or that.

Empiree:
where did you say @ highlighted?. You didn't. I did. Quote where you said that.

The way you started didn't suggest anything other than pictures and you enquired about them from me which I see no reason why you asked me in the first place.

Now that you have elaborated your concern, we just have to wait until those people reply me but I don't know when. But if your intention is to condemn entire people based on what a faction is doing, which I suspect is what you are trying to do, that's OBVIOUSLY unjust.

Empiree:
56That's what profiling means. When you asked me to inquire about them. That's profiling. Why do you think i am obliged to know about them?. Muslims are not homogeneous people. If they are doing something wrong other, groups are not responsible for thier actions. I have watched many brothers of Tijaniyya group who condemn fake people amongst them who claimed to be sufi but in reality they are goofy.

When the plumber guy who claimed to be salafi came here with his bogus ideology we all condemned him. Despite claiming to be salafy (till now), did i force it down your throat that he is?. No, bcus i know he is fake.

The same thing applies here. If some people claim they are sufi you gotta be sincere enough and weigh their ideology with essence of sufism and islam.

Empiree:
Now you are coming out of your crib. What belief is mentioned about them?. I belief they are muslim. Issues we have here are just political. So i don't know where you are driving at.



Now you are talking. You need to tell us what they're doing because i don't know them.


I had no reason to ask about them bcus it is irrelevant to me. But now that you indicates they are doing something wrong, and i believe you mean religiously. Then, i can look into that to see what who they are and what they are doing. I cant just profile a group like that.



You should have just posted it. This would have saved us long talks.


So far you are yet to give info about them.


I only defend what is islamically sound

AdeolaOmoOba:
Our moderators, OAM4J and Mynd44, this should make the front page as Nigerians deserve to know the truth. Thanks

Empiree:
why are you nosy bro?. I have no reason to ask because there is no information, nothing to prompt me to do that base on what your are saying here. If they are doing specific things that you believe is wrong, then, I might consider that. I can always research what Hakika is about. That's not a problem for me. I don't know them.

I can always ask but I'm just wondering if there is anything in particular that bothers you about Hakika?. I don't even belong to Tijjaniya. I only respond to certain practices deem inappropriate or not in harmony with Islam. As for the picture, for postng it shows that you have something in mind to say about it. Neither the pictures nor your text gives info.

Empiree:
hummm, there is nothing to ask here. I think you basing your critisms in these pictures you ordered. This is nothing because, I can simply deduce that this is boy friend and girl friend situation or better still husband and wife.

Whatever the case, this is nothing to do with Tijjaniya. Anyone could kiss over another. I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to derive from the picture?. I can't ask them question on Facebook based on the picture because there is nothing to ask.

Empiree:
I have no idea. Learning the name for the first time. I don't belong to any faction at all.

Where are they located?

Efewestern:
What do i have in my state?, lol, Good night dude, you are high on some cheap weed, As for the other nonsense you typed, atleast the resources are in my land, you what do you have?, what are you even contributing to Nigeria's purse?, What can you offer?, Apart from terrorism and religious extremism I wonder what you guys are known for, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Bush of parasites.! Spit...

eagleeye3:

You know that you just showed that characteristics of IPOB?

CoolFreeday:
if she forged it, then its wrong.

CoolFreeday:
What's d big deal with whether she served or not.

I collected exemption, so what?

Efewestern:
You started this economic nonsense of a thing, you can't eat your cake and have it, I repeat should you try any nonsense then be ready to go hungry, cous I know 96% of your states depends on FG monthly Bailout. The resources in my land belongs to my people not the Federal government, the fight for resource control is gaining weight everyday, very soon we will push for that with support from Benue and Pleatue.

You keep screaming about my state, in your ignorant mind anybody that opposes your madness is from a certain region in Nigeria, you are not even more pro Nigerian than I am, but I just need to tell you the truth, the herdsmen are bringing destruction instead of development to our land and we can't allow them anymore, and beside I'm from one of those states from the Delta.

Efewestern:
The issue is about the killing, you cannot be threatening others for refusing to give their ancestral land for some grazing stuff with some economic sanctions and you expect them to keep quiet when we know how parasitic the core north is to Nigeria, Should you make any of such attempt, then forget about collecting your usual monthly bailout from Abuja, as is it now the North Central are fast Leaving your grip, Every oil well own by any northerners will be revoked, those working in our oil field will be sent back, we will chase each and every one of you back to your enclave, you are the least region to threaten any body with economic sanctions. "LION THEY TALK cat self one raise shoulder".

And by the way my region is not "landlocked", even if it's landlocked that still won't make it as underdevelop, Take it from me, we are all tired of these herdsmen and their killings, no body is ready to give up his ancestral land for any reason whatsoever, if you can't ranch then you back to your village and roam the way you feel like roaming.

Efewestern:
You are not making sense, The Southerners working in Kano don't go about killing people, Believe me should you apply such measures your people will be at the mercy of the southerners.

Blue3k2:
Is Ganduje doing this for free. Even better they should run there as soon as its ready.

Grazing reserves fall into private sector business. The who country doesnt need to subsize business because they arent willing to invest. We dont for every other ranch farmer and individual.

Herdsmen are going to fund it. Every press statement says they will pay a fee for services. They will also pay taxes so thats false.

Typo. I meant it would not be private if goverment owned. Osun already set up ranch years ago for example. Akwa plans to asweell.

The fedeal government plans on doing low interest as well. I get point though. The issue of open grazing doesnt go away since open grazing not illegal in majority of states. Theres nothing that stop then from grazing or herding cattle anyway. Don't farmers pay water bill to federal government for service? (It would be dumb but not shocking if they didnt.)

Blue3k2:
Its not illegal under our laws. All land is vested in the state. The government is only obigated by law to pay compensation before work begins.

The land should be purchased if its a private sale or youll have to lease it from private entity. Thats how it works for every farmer, rancher or business owner. Unless government wants to give you land.

Herdsman are more than able to do buy land. They just dont want to change lifestyle or business model. Thats how the other ranchers, farmers and other private people do it everyday.

Its non issue since willing states and federal land are providing land. Sates like Edo, Osun Ebonyi and Benue already said no and federal government is pushing along fine.

Ok if you say so. Lol why stop at cattle legislage. Do every agricultural product. If they do I'll gladly eat my words.

It would be private if state running it.

Blue3k2:
The other option is work with willing states like its doing and set up low interest loans for ranching business.

FriendNG:
This should be for those willing to do ranching and not something mandatory. Reserves should be provided by government and not herders.

asamaigho:
Please take track on memory lane as back as can remember,if you are sincere to yourselve,u know that southerners and christians generally are being pushed to the wall,not just by fulanis but hausas inclusive. Dont tell me u where ignorant of d massacre of christians of a cartoon painted in far denmark,the massacre of christains in kano,kaduna,killing of mrs eunice elisha in abuja....... Many too numerous to mention. Suffice to say tha LEAH SHUAIBU IS STILL BEING HELD BY BOKOHARAM JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A CHRISTAIN.
I FIND IT INSULTIVE TO ANYONE TALKING OF REPRISAL FROM DIVIDE OF THE COUNTRY.

THERE IS TO MUCH INJUSTICE IN THE LAND AND IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL,......

Blue3k2:
The Jigawa government took land from farmers to give to Chinese firm for farming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doIAUtHf8XQ

I disagree with you on that point. Why shouldnt the buy land from state governments. If the governments want to lease it fine. The point is they will pay.

Understood. Btw your comment about government needing to raise prices is unnecessary. The price of beef will probably jump because of all the new input cost of ranching short term. Then the transport cost will increase since they arent herding most likely.

The price wont drop untill the cattle population increases after a few years. The meat production and dairy productiom will jump.

I agree its a meme for now but it seems like a logical end goal. The cows have little grass then they just need to buy feed in dry season.

I can compromise there since you agree its willing states participating. If thats case whats the big deal.

BedLam:
You Are a fool. A national carrier with nothing to write about our airports. Common Ghana has a better airport with better management. Do you even know why countries get national carrier? To boost toursim and they make it's originating airport a hub. You think one person will come to this shitty country for tourism?
I'm sure they will be rocked with scandal upon scandal and nepotism as usual. Then grind to a halt! Get sense. It's needed.

Blue3k2:
Im not sure what your arguing correct me if misinterpreting point. I agree a sovereign wealth fund is created by the state. I think your talking about the grazing land. Legally since state government can take land for that purpose. Jigawa seized 12,000 hectares for Chinese firm. The Federal government does also provide for nomadic education the quality I don't know.

Ranchers did purchase land from privately as well that's how ranches Like King Ranch Started in 1853 before the sovereign wealth fund. I don't know if King ranch was first ranch or just the largest.

Again states are more than free to copy Texas if they have land to devote to herders.

Thederal government can take swath of land it owns in Sambisa forest like you all suggest and use it for ranching.

The other option is work with willing states like its doing and set up low interest loans for ranching business.

stevedre:
What's up with this Bachama militia ? Some people never heard of them so do you mind doing a little explanation.
Killing innocent people to me is unacceptable no matter who or what is involved. Fulani, Boko or this so called Bachama should all be stopped.

ReformedAPC:
Will you shut da heck up and crawl back into your mat?!!! Were you deaf when Buhari made his infamous 95% to 5% speech?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYUBTU2ZgFY

ReformedAPC:
PDP projects. Initiated by PDP's Obasanjo, continued by yaradua, and rounded up by PDP's President GEJ. Commissioning tactically delayed by the herdsmen leader to claim cheap glory.

The Nigeria Federal Government is set to launch the Abuja Rail Mass Transit project later this month.

The project, which is the first light rail system in West Africa, was flagged-off by former President Olusegun Obasanjo in 2007 in an attempt to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games.

The Government had earlier disclosed that tracks, as well as 12 stations of the first phase of the projects, were already completed while procurement of rolling stock (wagons, etc) was ongoing.

Tolu Ogunlesi, the special assistant to President Muhammadu Buhari on digital media, disclosed that the trial phase took place today, ahead of the launch which has been scheduled to hold later this month.

“Today we tour #AbujaMetro, ahead of the launch. The first light rail system in West Africa. Phase 1 completed; 2 Lines, Yellow and Blue, with Connections to Abuja Airport and the National Rail Line” Ogunlesi tweeted.

“Took us about 20 minutes from Abuja Metro Station direct to Idu, where the #AbujaMetro connects to the National Rail Service (Lagos-Kano/Abuja-Kaduna). There are a couple of stations in between that we didn’t stop at, so the ideal journey will take slightly longer.”

The project would connect the city centre to Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport and would offer a light rail transport system that would ease transport challenges in the city.

Former President Olusegun Obasanjo initiated the project with an official groundbreaking ceremony in May 2007 in order to host Commonwealth Games in 2014. But lack of funds for the project delayed its completion