₦airaland Forum

The humongous fraud in the oil sector, is why the former minister of state for Petroleum, Silver sponsored a military coup to violently overthrow the govt.

Silver and members of Buhari's inner cabal have a lot to answer for their roles in fleecing the nation dry under the guise of repairing our refineries.

lightwind:
I will visit Okija or Alaogbaga because of u, u think say ur picture never caste.

Abeg, ask the Baba for Okirja to give us three sure odds for this WC .

budaatum:
Just in case you never heard, I found you a fresh "last throes of a dying monster".

https://www.nairaland.com/8698871/gunmen-kill-benue-miyetti-allah#139840905

Those are the bad guys .

Or you don begin support Miyetti?

budaatum:
First, allow me to rephrase your question.

Who do I blame if a state government can't fund its police?

And my answer is, I blame myself.

We are democracies you see, and it is I, the voter, who elects the government, good or bad.

Now, I don't mean me alone, but we are responsible for being fooled to elect "LG who disguise as a state have been ripping the country in allocation that they don't deserve".

And I and we and us should learn to choose better because it is us who will suffer from our bad choice electing a government that mismanages state funds.


I went further than you by calling for regional police, though for different reasons.


I agree. No state should carry the burden of my state!

The FG will scale back Federal Policing to focus on interstate criminals, bounty hunting,, enforcing NAFDAC regulation, etc.

You will have to figure out how to deal with your criminals in your own.

When that becomes a harsh reality, your SE state governors who have been opposing resource control and your populace that has decried a tax based revenue system , will have choice than to pay up for a police force .

Most people only become responsible when they are left to cater for themselves .

Quick to offend, slow to repent.

They will just start useless nzogbu inspired fight and when it comes they will run away.

Ttalk:
Then who do you blame if a state can't fund its police? Why is she call a state in the first place?

It simply means some LG who disguise as a state have been ripping the country in allocation that the don't deserve.

Any state that can't cater for its police should merge with other neighboring state to form a vibrant state. Some state cannot be carrying the burden of good for nothing states.

Let each state own it's resources and cater for its people. That's the real meaning of a Federation

The entire SE ought to be merged to one state.

lightwind:
Two terms Former Governor of a State in Nigeria OPINION MEANINGLESS inside politics ?

The problem i have is that, many of you don't live here in Nigeria with us.

You guys are believing a fairy tail image of Nigeria from Obodo Oyibo.

His opinion is not only meaningless but worthless given his disastrous 8 ys maladministration.

In saner climes, Giringori will permanently sequest himself from public space.

Nah to rush go join that undertaker political party that has shovel as it's logo.

budaatum:
I do wonder how true this is, considering even Obas are now being kidnapped. But I guess terrorists are not the same as bandits.

You must give your new found terrorists in Fulani bandits the audience they do crave

It is very clear to those with discerning wisdom that the attacks in Yoruba settlements and specific targets of Yoruba obas in places like Kwara and Kogi west as well as northern Oyo are a grand plot by disgruntled northern politicians to both portray this govt as weak and to halt the ongoing clampdown on terrorists .

Do you hear of fresh Fulani attacks in Benue, Nassarawa, Niger and Southern Kaduna ?

What you are cheering on is the last throes of a dying monster.

If anything , pls give them your much needed bad luck support as we know how that turns out for anyone you support.

Mbanda:
This junk of a news is not coming from a neutral ground so no sane person will believe it. A lot of lies and rots are now in the media courtesy of APC.

Sowore is the owner of Sahara reporters and we all know that, sowore don't like Obi that's why he always attack Obi.

Your AI is crap.

In August of 2022 as part of his 2023 campaign, Obi addressed a gathering of northern elders in Arewa House Kaduna were he made a pledge to uphold the constitution and treat it as sacrosanct.

In 2019 , when he was running under Atiku as VP, he also addressed a gathering of northern elites by saying he will oppose resource control for states.

Your Nnamdi Kanu blasted him on radio Biafra for being a northern stooge and a sellout .

So you want to deny this as well?

chatinent:
You aren't bothered the govt is treating the error with kid's gloves sofar it's the north doing it?

You lie.

No other adminstration has been tough on terrorists and bandits like the Tinubu led FG which has secured over 2,000 convictions so far.

Even your SE is enjoying Tinubu's clampdown on terrorists.

chatinent:
According to the force PRO, the trending video of the armed cyclists are vigilantes.

Tor.

Since vigilantes now carry assault rifles, SMGs, and AAs, it is time to legalise it for everyone to reduce the workload and waving capacity on the police.

Cos the law in the north is different from the law in the south?

Secondly, now they are pushing for the state police, what becomes of the Hisbah?

Why are you bothered about what is going on in the north ?

Use the State police bill to setup your own legal policing force that is backed by law to carry arms and custodial powers .

Why must you fixate so much on what is going on in the north.

If the north like , let them make bandits and terrorists their police.

It's up to us down south to ensure we have our own police force that will check their madness if they dare extend it anywhere into the south.

Mbanda:
When will you start telling the truth and make speaking the truth a priority?

Read this article on Obi's blind support to uphold the 1999 constitution which he sees as "perfect".

https://saharareporters.com/2025/02/04/oped-peter-obis-attachment-fraudulent-1999-constitution-complaint-ndidi-uwechue

How can someone who has described the 1999 constitution as being perfect and who pledged to northern politicians and elders who do happen to be the greatest and most vocal opposition to resource control for states, ensure it isn't tampered or ammended to see to resource control ?

Mbanda:
I need to verify first because I don't know you as a soothsayer.

Obi made a pledge to Arewa leaders in Arewa House in 2022 that he will not tamper with the constitution and he will do everything to ensure the current system remains including opposing clamour for resource control by states.

Stop your lies.

Tenses:
You like to deceive yourself

The state legislators are under the control of the governor. There's no way that the state government won't be in charge of appointing the CP be it directly or indirectly.

And for the records, the Igbos are not against state police.

Obi has rejected the ongoing amendment of the constitution to see to states establishing their own police force.

Oby was ranting aimlessly without any coherent reason why she opposed the state policing bill.

NINAS that is also a pro Biafran secessionist movement came out to discredit the state policing bill without even providing reasons why it should be rejected.

Ibo posters here are all against the same state policing bill.

franchasofficia:
I was one of those that supported state Police but after putting so many things into consideration, I realized that State Police will end up becoming a tool of oppression, intimidation and for election rigging for Governors.


I know Tinubu's main goal is to empower Lagos state which is more like his family's personal business center.


If truly Tinubu wants to do an overhaul of our security architecture to reduce insecurity and improve local policing and security in Nigeria, then he ought to do the below



1.) Make it compulsory that every Federal Commissioner of Police and all heads of tactical teams and formations under Police command must be indigenes of that state.


2.) Every Commanding Officer of every military cantonment in any state in Nigeria must be an indigene of that state.

3.) Every Director of DSS in every state in Nigeria must be indigene of that state.

4.) Every Civil Defense Corps Boss in any Nigeria state must be an indigene of that state.

Do this alone and watch insecurity and terrorism die a natural death in Nigeria with time.


Then with time, we can start the process of recognizing regional governments using the six geopolitical zones as template, from there, we can have Regional Prime Ministers for each of the 6 geopolitical zones, then we can have Regional Police. Gradually we can phase out Presidency and move to Regional government with a less powerful Prime Minister whose role will be more focused on foreign policies, border control and defense against external threats.



This is the only way to make a meaningful impact in Nigeria.


State Police even though it sounds nice on paper could fragment Nigeria and turn to another chaos. We ought to have a sincere electoral law that reduces rigging and election results manipulation to say 85% first before empowering our corrupt, rascal state Governors with a State Police to avoid abuse and using the state Police to rig election and perpetuate themselves and their corrupt cronies into office perpetually while the people remain helpless to change or remove them

You just want to have state police in name only while still being funded and controlled by Abuja .


Your recycled excuse of governors gaining complete control of the State police is invalid as this can be addressed with the right legislation passed by your state house of assembly.

I believe you guys are not comfortable being policed by your fellow tribesmen because we know how every vigilante outfit that has been setup by your governors since the days of Bakassi boys ends up being a terror to the people they are supposed to protect.

Even your ESN and BLA freedom fighters ended up killing more Ibos by a greater magnitude than the Fulani they said they were established to engage .

obiekunie01:
WE NDI IGBO ALWAYS SEE THE BAD SIDE OF EVRY POLICY AND EVERY BAD GOVERNMENT AHEAD OF ALL OF UNA.

But una dey always like to learn the hard way.

We go dey here when una lamentation over state police go start.

Zombiedredd , this is what I meant.

And so far everyone of you has not even provided a coherent and logical reason why you are opposed to state policing.

budaatum:
I wonder if Nigerian Police would police such states.

In fact, if I were willing to be cynical, I'd think the Federal Government is trying to reduce cost by transfering police to states. And I am concerned that some states' police might end up underfunded like schools currently are, and those unpoliced states might end up being where criminals set up base.

FG should come and change your diapers for you.

budaatum:
I do understand how difficult it is for you to understand that it is not my excuse despite my careful choice of words.

Regardless, today I'm ignoring mannerless people, and advice you go and discuss with someone who opposes state police and disregards your lack of manners.

You seem really angered that I rightly rejected your useless excuse and the option preferred by people like Oby.

Same Oby, for whatsoever reason removed History from our secondary school national curriculum.

greatiyk4u:
Who are those in the South East opposing state police?

Oby and NINAS.

budaatum:
I never said I don't want state police, so yes, "no coherent answers or reason why"!

And Tinubu is not in any way my nemesis, though he is not my preferred candidate as I am now antiAPC.

Golly, FSB! Is it your plan to pick fights today?

Since you have decided to be the mouthpiece of those against State policing , you should tell us why .

And your reason that you gave on their behalf is total balderdash.

The reason for the likes of Oby and NINAS rejecting State policing is the same reason why Ojukwu rejected Gowon's decree 8 that was meant to create regional armies.

See them.

At least they admit that something is being done to address the infrastructure deficit especially in federal road networks.

Tinubu's govt is the only govt since 1999 to have embarked on building new roads

The Coastal, Sokoto and Calabar-Maiduguri highways are brand new roads which when completed will add up to over 3,000km of roads.

budaatum:
Actually, you have shown me how high it does fly.

For starts, it's not my "excuse". It is the view and opinion of those who said it. Second, you are unnecessarily rude!

If you are interested in educating yourself, please go and learn how Tinubu is being 'accused' of weaponising the Nigerian Police and the EFCC and the courts and the judges. And also study how the USA DOJ is being weaponised. I am certain you'd find a "special joint legislative-Judiciary commission setup to oversee and regulate the state police" there somewhere, which might make you consider that those opposing state police are not waiting for the hunter to learn to shoot without missing before they start teaching themselves to fly without perching.

No coherent answers or reason why you don't want state policing instead you deflected to Tinubu your God sent nemesis.

Rutherford2019:
We have ESN and wo no need for state police
State police will clash with ESN and ESN will crush them

The manpower will be from your state .

Are you saying that you are just against policing ?

budaatum:
Actually, you have shown me how high it does fly.

For starts, it's not my "excuse". It is the view and opinion of those who said it. Second, you are unnecessarily rude!

If you are interested in educating yourself, please go and learn how Tinubu is being 'accused' of weaponising the Nigerian Police and the EFCC and the courts and the judges. And also study how the USA DOJ is being weaponised. I am certain you'd find a "special joint legislative-Judiciary commission setup to oversee and regulate the state police" there somewhere, which might make you consider that those opposing state police are not waiting for the hunter to learn to shoot without missing before they start teaching themselves to fly without perching.

My friend go and sit down.

The bill currently under consideration by the Senate grants the state legislative branch full powers to draw up how a state police will operate and under whose powers a commissioner can be appointed and where their funding and oversight will come from.

All those security votes your governors have been stealing and not spending up to a fraction on security will go directly to funding a state police .

The state police will be jointly regulated by the Nigerian Police Commission , the State legislative and a special judiciary board of enquiry setup specifically to address any public complaints .

States can even make the position of a state police commissioner an elective one .


There are so many state police in the US that can be used as an example where the governor has next to zero control of the county sheriff's office talk more of state police.

As I said your excuse is totally invalid

How then can you regulate a regional policing force where there are no regional govts ?

Under which legislative branch will the authority come from?

Eba50:
With state ppolice, every state governor must win 2 terms.u know the rest

That's if the state legislative branch are foolish enough to draw up laws that will hand the state police to the governor.

TopBanter:
Lol. Because they are insincere.

It's more than that and the 0k0r0 mod hid a response to why they don't want state policing and it's down to not wanting other states outside their SE especially in the SS and SW from having the enforcement arm to laws that will protect and promote indigeneship rights.

budaatum:
Below is one reason.



State police will be under state governors which would enable their misuse, while regional provides oversight.

This is utter rubbish.

The bill calling for an amendment of the 1999 constitution to allow for state policing clearly states that the powers to draw up the modalities for a state police rests in the hands of the state legislative branch.

It's up to each respective state legislative branch to work out the modalities for appointing a state commissioner and in whose authority that lies.

States can even decide to opt for making the position of Commissioner of Police an elective one so that the emergence of a commissioner of police will not be tied to the governor's office.

I will prefer this option so that when a commissioner is obviously inept or corrupt , he can either be impeached or be voted out from office .

Budget approval can even be directly from the state police submitting it's own budget outside the executive and funding secured without executive interference.

Regulatory authority can rest on a special jount legislative-Judiciary commission setup to oversee and regulate the state police.

This your excuse won't fly.