₦airaland Forum

erad:
Going through this thread, it's just a pity.

A whole state chairman of the party you want to run under is being sidelined as well as the state party structure, and rather than his supporters to see things logically, they have started insulting the man.

Smh.

That's what you get when you hand over a party ticket to someone for free at Dickson's parlour .

If Giringori was made to fight for the ticket , he would have gone to network with every NDC state and ward chairmen for their support.

But since he got it for free, he doesn't need them and as such he prefers to work with his hirelings that have been migrating with him from APGA , PDP, LP in his nomadic career.

Isn't this how he refused to carry APGA party members along when he was governor ?

After all, it was Ojukwu that imposed him on the party and so Giringori did not need to work with party members.

Ofunaofu:
It's an Obi thread

A thread for tata boys to girate on

It's an NDC Anambra state chairman that is lamenting and declaring that Giringori will not win a ward talk more the state this coming elections

Deal with your NDC Anambra state chairman lamenting over Giringori relegating them instead of trying to deflect to APC .

Giringori always burns bridges.

This is the outcome of a free ticket candidate.

If Giringori had ever worked to get a party nomination through the ballot, he would have understood that a politician needs to network his way in every nook and cranny to garner support.

Was this not how he led Anambra without carrying APGA along since he never got to be voted in by party members but rather was imposed on the party by Ojukwu ?

ncoolsome:
The constitution mandates that all democratically elected executive office holders from the President , VP , Governors , Deputy Governors down to Local Govt Chairmen must resign from any private profiting or paid professional roles once they are sworn into office.

Now read the bolded and ask yourself if Alia falls under such

The "vow to poverty" is a misnomer when it comes to Catholic priests.

Catholic priests get paid an allowance and have all their expenses covered by the church.

Catholic priests are a recognised professional position in society as one must go through seminary schools and attain theological training and doctoral works before they can be ordained.

The vow to poverty oath only concerns inheritance as every priest is expected to have the church as their only next of kin


How did you think the Catholic church became so rich ?

They became so rich because every wealth acquired by the church , priests , monks and nuns remains in the church after their demise hence why the Catholic church frowns heavily on their "staff" getting married and having heirs as this will affect their wealth accumulation that they have been acquiring for nearly 2,000ys.

It's a racket and a proffesion.

poseidon12:
We have heard you, self appointed spokesman of the Catholic Superior. The party APC attracts the worst Nigerians. You guys are so arrogant, it's nauseating.
Your Governor Alia stands suspended by the Catholic Church and will be in no position to organize Mass after his governorship term.

See this one.

When Fr Mbaka was openly against your Giringori as VP to Atiku in 2019, Rufai Oseni was calling on the Catholic church to gag him which the Bishop of Enugu obliged by barring Mbaka from holding mass.

A mini riot broke out at the Enugu diocese and residence of the Bishop of Enugu following the Bishop removing Mbaka from holding mass at his adoration ministry.

Mob followers of Mbaka went on rampage destroying cars and properties of the church at the Bishop's residence.

Onyaiken was in full support of Mbaka being gagged and stripped of holding mass then out of pure politics .

Now you guys have turned your fury on Reverend Alia not because he chose to serve his people as governor but because he is not aligned to supporting your Giringori.

A Reverend serving as a governor of one of the states facing severe assault from Fulani ethno religious extremists but aligned to the Muslim President, Tinubu does not correlate with the ongoing Christian genocide lie.

Well, you guys insulted another reverend a few weeks back whose only crime was telling you obidients to be tolerant of other people's constitutional and democratic rights to choose who they support.

No insults was spared on that Reverend father whose only crime was calling for decorum and respect for and to others .

emydnobl:
Catholic church Canon Law is very Bigger than Politics and useless defense of crook Reverend that treasure political power hunting over religious duty and humanity alike.

Lol see this one.

You are now insulting an ordained catholic priest .

You guys even said in another thread that Alia has a secret family tucked away in the US all to get him excommunicated.

Well, we all know that Alia supporting Tinubu has put serious dent in your malicious lies that Tinubu as a Muslim is waging war against Christians in Nigeria.

And that your hatred for this Reverend is because he doesn't support your Giringori

Kalashnikov49:
Just imagine what made frontpage..

Chai ..Nairaland has been enveloped by radical islamist and those that constantly degrade and undermine the Catholic Church.

When I condemn the ongoing genocide on Palestinians who are both Christian and Muslims, you labeled me an islamic terrorists.

For stating that Governor Alia can not be expected to hold mass or other Ecclesiastical duties as a Catholic priest now that he is a serving democratically elected Governor and that Onyaiken's suspension is null and void, you say I am a Muslim.

I believe that the main issue here is the zionist mob trying desperately to spin a Muslim Vs Christian rift in Nigeria and putting the current administration as one waging such sectarian conflict .

But with an ordained catholic Reverend supporting Tinubu and being in the same party as his, the whole Christian genocide lying narrative collapses on its own weight of lies.

Onyaiken never condemned Alia until the Giringori incidence in Benue


Onyaiken is obviously supporting Giringori so the issue of staying out of politics is out of the window since Onyaiken has shown severally to even the blind that he is supporting your Giringori.

Why is it that it was until after the Benue incidence that saw Giringori bounced from entering the state, that Onyaiken decided to start calling on Alia to be excommunicated?

If Alia was supporting Giringori as Onyaiken is apparently doing, I don't think Onyaiken will be ranting and disturbing our public space with his ongoing politically charged feud with Alia.

So rest

ShenTeh:
Whatever position you hold, dear Op, you destroyed your point by repeatedly maintaining that the revered Onaiyekan was "ranting", and in the same piece referring to Gov Alia as "the good reverend"! How nah?

Even the governor.in anger wouldn't say in public that Rev Onaiyekan is ranting.

If you are indeed a paid writer, you definitely are not worth a dime.

I am not a Catholic but I know how etiquettes go.

Onyaiken is not a deity .

He is a priest and nothing more and he is not above scrutiny.

Holinest:
I want to ask Nairaland MODs. Why is it that Muslims can make posts and comment and insult the Christian institutions and leaders all in the name of Political comments. But Christians have some level of restrictions to comment on Muslim posts?

This is injustice.

Whose the Muslim ?

What makes you assume I am a Muslim,?

Because I don't support the ongoing genocide on the real Semitic people in Palestine , I am a Muslim.

Because I condemn Onyaiken dragging Rev Alia for not supporting his annionted Giringori, I am now a Muslim.

You guys are really funny.

ebuk4real:
Both the OP and those nodding their agama lizard head without knowing the precepts of the Catholic church are certified clowns 🤡

If Governor Alia was supporting your Giringori we all know that he won't be getting so much flak from onyaiken and his new found mob supporters in the obidient camp.

Validated:
Did your god reveal this to you, because I am sure you have absolutely no right to dabble into other people's religious beliefs and practices.

Arrant nonsense.

I am no Catholic neither am I a Muslim


Even if the Pope contests and wins executive position in Nigeria, the constitution mandates that the Pope must resign from his ecclesiastic duties and concentrate as an elected executive officer.

Dem don knack dis one hard put am for wheelchair

Waylex21:
All those who posted above are ignorant of so many things.
The issue is a church matter which Gov. Alia is fully aware of and fully responsible to. It's not a constitutional matter.
If the issue is taken up legally, the courts cannot legislate on it.

Alia has no choice .

A governor is expected to resign and relinquish all his previous professional position and roles held before he was sworn in.

I am even sure the Rev got the bishop to suspend him from his role as a catholic priest

The constitution mandates that all democratically elected executive office holders from the President , VP , Governors , Deputy Governors down to Local Govt Chairmen must resign from any private profiting or paid professional roles once they are sworn into office.

Onyaiken ranting that Governor Alia has been suspended from carrying out his duties as a Catholic Reverend holds no water as the constitution of Nigeria - which remains supreme and above even the Catholic church mandates that Reverend Alia should temporarily relieve himself of being a Catholic priest and to concentrate on governing Benue state which he is now a governor.

Onyaiken can rant all he likes about Alia being suspended by the Bishop superior but the fact remains that the good Reverend - while forever still remaining an ordained priest unless excommunicated by the Pope and Pope alone - has by constitutional mandate since relieved himself from performing mass.

Note that Onyaiken's declaration of Alia being suspended by his Bishop superior only translates to the Reverend being forbidden to carry out mass.

So onyaiken can be rest assured that after the good Reverend completes his tenure , Reverend Alia will be returning back to the church to perform mass .

louken:
Cardinal is neither praising nor condemning the governor on his performance as a governor.

He is talking about the governor's role as a priest of the Roman Catholic church. A priest is expected to get full clearance from his bishop before going into partisan politics. It's not as if the governor didn't know this. He chose not to obey it. He is fully aware of the consequences - suspension.

As it stands, he's suspended from priesthood and, so, should stop parading himself as one. This shouldn't be so difficult to understand

Irrespective of the current governor's previous standing as a Catholic priest before getting elected, the constitution makes it clear that all standing professional , private business roles and obligations a successful candidate held before being sworn in to office , must be relinquished by the said candidate resigning from such private profiting and professional roles.

The good Reverend is not expected to carry out mass as he is now a bonafide democratically elected governor fulfilling all constitutional hurdles.

Onyaiken can suspend as much as he likes but the constitution has already mandated that the good Reverend halt carrying out any other responsibility outside his constitutional role as a governor .

What is however clear is that Onyaiken and his band of Sanhedrin priests and their obidient mob can not excommunicate Reverend Alia from being a Priest.

So make una rest.

louken:
You don't know anything about the Catholic church. Meanwhile, Gov Alia's suspension didn't start today. I presume you have not seen the suspension letter and the date on it.

When a whole cardinal is fixated on sacking a Reverend for obviously not supporting his annionted candidate, Giringori and has left his ecclesiastical duties to be dragging the same Reverend, then you ought to know that this is personal.

Onyaiken is an idiotes.

Kukutente23:
The Cardinal has every legitimate right as a superior in the clergy and a foremost citizen to criticize and more importantly educate those who might be tying the abysmal and piss-poor record of the rogue priest to the Catholic church.
The Prelate just released a caveat emptor as its expected of his office to dissociate the church from the disgraceful outing of the Alia rogue who has managed to outperform his predecessors in the hall of infamy which governing Benue state has become.

The rogue priest was already defrocked before he launched his ambition but town criers like you defrauded the people of Benue into believing they were voting for a priest of good standing

You can cry all you want because the Cardinal burst your bubble. It changes nothing.

Unfortunately for you and your errant cardinal, only the Pope can excommunicate the good Reverend and according to Catholic doctrine , the good Reverend has not committed any grave offense to warrant such.

I even saw one of you lying here that the Reverend has a secret family in the US.

There's no limit to your slander .

lawani:
I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THAT ENOCH ADEBOYE OF THE RCCG TRICKED JOHN AUDU OF EKE AVRUGO KOGI STATE TO ITALY WITH A JOB OFFER, THEN SET HIM UP. TO INFORMALLY RELIEVE SOMEONE THEN PERSONALLY HACKED HIM TO DEATH WHEN HE GOT THERE. WHY? BECAUSE HE FOUND OUT HE WAS THE ONE THAT PAID HIM 250K BY PROXY IN 2006 TO ASSASSINATE ME WHILE I WAS DOING NYSC

WHY CAN'T ADEBOYE RESPOND? ASK YOURSELF WHY ADEBOYE CAN NOT RESPOND

OYEDEPO TOO CAN NOT RESPOND. HE SENT ASSASSINS AFTER ME AND THEY WERE MASSACRED ETC ETC

THESE ARE THE TOP MOST RESPECTED PEOPLE BY THE MASSES IN NIGERIA AND YOU WONDER WHY THE COUNTRY IS THE WAY IT IS?

Meds.

Now!

Judemarco31:
If you are not a Catholic or if you don't know the ethics of the Catholic clergymen then you keep quiet. As a Catholic priest and you want to participate fully in politics, there are some measures you have to agree with the church authorities before anything, no one is stopping you from joining politics but obey the rules which Governor Hyacinth knows. Catholic church is not like some other churches who are not organised. Mbaka you are referring to is not a political party member neither is he contesting for a political position, but if he wishes to, he knows the processes to follow.

Moreover, Governor Hyacinth is still a Rev. Father till his dead, whether on suspension or not, the only difference currently is he cannot be allowed to practice any roll of Rev.Father till after his Tenure or if he retired from politics and make intention to practice again, he has to undergo some certain processes which will be certified from Rome that he is fit to start his rolls as Rev. Father. So my brother be guarded, you don't just come online to dabble against everything that affects your party (APC).

Why are you guys just remembering this aspect of being a priest ?

You didn't condemn the Reverend when he joined partisan politics, secured a platform, contested and won and later got sworn in as governor.

You only remembered this aspect because the good Reverend is not in any way aligned to your Giringori presidential ambition


Tueh!

arantess:
you muslims like to attack our clergy men.

you really should have kept your gob shut

See whose talking.

You guys insulted a Reverend father who appealed to you guys to stop insulting every other candidate and their supporters.

What Christian are you that you will insult a Reverend father for calling on you to be tolerant and respectful of other people's constitutionally guaranteed democratic rights ?

When father Mbaka was abusing his pulpit from 2014 up till 2019 why did this your onyaiken or whatever not condemn Mbaka ?

In October 2026, Seid became the subject of controversy over allegations that he had employed individuals for more than three years to distribute nuts, seeds, and other food around his Lincoln Park residence and throughout the adjacent public park.

According to Chicago Alderman Timmy Knudsen, the activity attracted large numbers of pigeons and contributed to a significant rat infestation in the surrounding neighborhood. Despite repeated municipal citations and fines, which Seid reportedly paid without contesting, the activity continued.

Rats spread disease.

Why will anyone want to feed and increase the rat population and go the extra mile to pay people to do such and when caught gladly pay the fine but continue feeding rats ?

Rats in Chicago and New York are as big as a small dog and they carry fleas that transmit the bubonic plague.

In the wake of a bio weapon bubonic plague virus unleashed in Russia , this story hits differently.

Why will a Jewish billionaire couple be paying people to feed rats across Chicago ?

Note that the bubonic plague was spread primarily by contact with rats carrying a particular flea that was a vector for the bacterium.

Chicago and other major American cities have a huge rat infestation problem and now it is coming to light that there are well coordinated efforts to increase the rodent population in all major US cities.

In Chicago, a billionaire Jewish couple have been fingered as being behind an intense feeding program for rats by paying people to feed the rat population.

Mysterious Chicago billionaire Barre Seid and his wife Barbara keep paying people to spread Brazil Nuts around Lincoln Park in Chicago to draw rats into the park. It has created a rat infestation and they keep doing it MORE after the city has fined them.

https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2026/10/07/lincoln-park-billionaire-accused-of-fueling-rat-infestation

Of what purpose and benefit is it to anyone to feed disease carrying and spreading rodents ?

Don't these Jewish billionaires have anything to do with their money than to recruit people to feed rats across the city ?

Daguccizgreat:
Sorry to say but you're delusional . You westerners claim you have respect for elders but look at the words you use for a revered bishop simply because he's against the evil govt you support. Time will tell

See whose talking.

A Reverend father from the SE called for decorum and tolerance from among the obidients towards other candidates and their supporters and he was insulted to high heaven for simply calling on Obidients to behave themselves.

This cardinal is obviously highly partisan and he is the one attacking a serving democratically elected governor because as a fellow Catholic priest, Rev Alia is not supporting Onaiyekan's anointed Giringori.


The cardinal is the one who is abusing his frock and should stay out of politics .

FrankByDefault:
You're obviously unaware of who owns the planet and its inhabitants.

Satan rules this world and his children (Jews) are in charge.

If the Governor was supporting their Giringori will this hypocrite of a cardinal be calling for his defrocking ?

They had no complains on Alia contesting and winning an election.

The problem started when the governor did not align with their Giringori ambition.

Well, this cardinal like all bishops and reverends enjoyed Giringori using the church to launder money.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
A Muslim guy like you thinks a cardinal would stoop low to look for political power in Nigeria in

Your cardinal has been hypocritically partisan and has no right to criticise the Benue state governor.

I am sure if this same Reverend was fully backing your Giringori , we will not be witnessing the attacks on him

And to expose your hypocrisy further, you guys cheer every demonic pastor from that your SE who have been openly condemning Tinubu and advocating for your Giringori

So the Reverend should be defrocked because he does not align with your Giringori ambition?

Ezeama400:
Cardinal seeking political power ?

Are you ok ?

Do you know that Onayiken is like a Minster to Pope just like we have some Ministers to the presidency in Abuja today..? What is more influential that ?
Ignorance is a disease..

Anybody questioning the calamity in Aso rock and his devilish policies automatically becomes an opposition to you.. Everything is politics to you guys..

As for Benue state governor, he knows his fate after politics..

That here lies the stinking hypocrisy on display.

So this your cardinal can chook mouth in politics but the good Reverend that Benue people elected should not be involved in politics.

How is it that it is only when the Reverend did not openly support your Giringori that is when you know he isn't supposed to be involved in politics .

If he had been fully backing your Giringori we know you guys and your cardinal won't be attacking him.

Yeye.

Well, the Reverend is a Nigerian and has every right to contest and hold public position.

christejames:
Someone finally talking sense into the dumb skull of that governor




The dumbskull think he can use church sentiment to mismanaged a state for the people to sentimentally applaused him?

His people in Benue state voted for him.

What concerns you from the SE of whom the people of Benue voted for ?

Why can't you people just mind your business ?

And this same hypocrite Onaiyekan that is blatantly partisan should not be the one talking.

When Fr Mbaka was running his mouth and dabbling in politics were was this Onaiyekan and his ungodly sect of Catholic priests ?

Kalashnikov49:
IGBOs killed in Oyo State will be avenged ...

That is a promise.

Ok.

I will be archiving this post and thread for future reference.