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Courz:
The bolded is the reason why Almighty God and Jesus are totally against twisting, adding and subtracting from the word of God. Doing that diverts Christians direction from the road to Life in Heaven. This is why their Bible is dangerous. If God is this disgusted at this despicable act as shown in the verses below, just imagine the looks on his face and that of Jesus when they see JWs go out to preach with those manipulated verses to Deceive people. Why do you think they are rejected all the time when they go out to preach? If their Bible wasn't manipulated, they won't have this high rejection rate. It doesn't ever register in their Brains as to why they keep getting rejected.

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky and Michael547, attached below is the reason why your Bible is very dangerous as indicated at the bolded.

Repent before it's too late.

Courz:
E tire you abi? This is what the Bible says about people calling what is Evil Good. All the Evil that happens and the wrong things Watchtower has done qualifies it to be the only performing group according to Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse. This can only be the inspiration from one person Satan.

Thank you for referring to that scripture:

Isaiah 5:20
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

Emusan:
Why do you think they can't quote the scriptures rather they will just cite it?

He did the same of recent to that Muslim guy @Abu waiting self, the guy exposed him by quoting the cited scripture, do you know the excuse Max gave?

He was like you a sound mind would have read a verse before and after a cited scripture.

Very pathetic!

You're right. That Janosky guy has a different style. To attack your valid point, he'll say you're wrong, then he'll drop an unrelated scripture reference without quoting the verse. For example, he may drop John 15:12. When you go open John 15:12, you'll find out that it's talking about something quiet unrelated. He'll just drop the reference to make you think he has something in the Bible that really buttresses his point. If you don't go and open the Bible references to confirm, you'll be floored.

Those guys are really deceptive. It's their stock in trade. Very satanic organization.

Aemmyjah:
Your head is filled with sand
If you had brain
You'll have seen the lie in those comments
Continue to swallow lies both hook, line and sinker

I didn't see any lie in any comment. Show me the so called lies . I'm waiting!

Aemmyjah:
King James is completely honest shey?

Have you ever seen a honest, true seeking Christian who depends on King James alone like you do your new world translation?

Or has King James ever claimed to be the only true Bible like your organization claims for your book?

Aemmyjah:
Thank you very much
Those images are fine examples of national defense

If you can't defend your nation, why should you defend yourself? Why should you call on the same law enforcements you say you discourage people from enlisting in?

Aemmyjah:
Well
Our publications do not force any reader to accept it's message
We just show you all the details about popular practices and doctrines in a logical manner?
We have used the same question to address other things such as
Should you believe in angels
Should you believe in God
Should you believe in the Bible


Your low level of thinking won't allow you to reason properly

The bolded applies to you 100%.

What we're talking about is the heavy manipulation of someone's book and the heavy manipulation of the Bible. Who's asking you how you arrived at the questions of Should you believe in Angels, etc. Please read well before responding.

oteneaaron:
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :

Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

Dr. Julius Mantey , author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation...Obsolete and incorrect...It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god...I have never read any New Testament so badly translated as The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Greek Scriptures.... it is a distortion of the New Testament. The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137) the translators of the NWT are "diabolical deceivers." (Julius Mantey in discussion with Walter Martin)

Source: http://catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/neworld.htm

CC: Courz, FxMasterz, Achorladey, Emusan

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael547. By now, you are supposed to have followed that link and researched more on this subject.

Every right thinking person knows that the GB didn't birth Christianity. They also received it. Christianity has its foundation upon which everyone must build. The original manuscripts for example are the foundations for any other language translation. Except for someone bent on mischief, all translations must remain true to the original manuscripts. Any translation that says something different from what the original writings say is trying to pull people away from the faith and give them another religion - a fake gospel.

Without doubt, your New Worlds Translation have DELIBERATELY changed, mistranslated removed several verses from the original translations. Definitely, what you're holding in your hand differs greatly from the original manuscripts. Some of the words are not the Words of Jesus, and a great deal of the ideas were not held by the apostles. You yourselves have never denied this claim. Which means you already know. Except you're an agent of Satan, you would not continue supporting such deception.

If what you hold defers from what the apostles believed in, then you're really endangering your soul.

Jude 1:3
"Beloved, although I made every effort to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt it necessary to write and urge you to contend earnestly for the faith entrusted once for all to the saints."

By confirming the originality of biblical writings and taking a stand for the honest and undiluted translation of Scripture, you're obeying the Lord by CONTENDING EARNESTLY FOR THE FAITH WHICH WAS ONCE FOR ALL ENTHRUSTED UNTO THE SAINTS.

Emusan:
That is it!

And the funny thing is that, if you see Watchtower talking about other, you'll think they are so vast in the knowledge of the written languages of the Bible.

Meanwhile, what they are doing is just like permutation, go to the library of the so called CHRISTENDOM copy their works and even DELIBERATELY MISQUOTED them just to continue to deceive their followers.

Do you know that Dr B.M Metzger @Oteneaaron made reference to has to personally wrote letter to Watchtower to stop using his work because of manipulation. The same with Professor George Howard.

Watchtower published a booklet titled Should you believe in the Trinity?

You won't believe the lies and misquotes full that booklet just because they want to proof trinity isn't Biblical, as people begin to call them out they have to withdraw the booklet.

Below is the letter George Howard wrote to clarify they usage of his work by Watchtower, read it and see the self acclaimed ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN and mouthpiece of God being exposed.

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah Janosky and Michael547, have you seen how your organization also manipulated someone's book to support their deceptive ideologies? Those who can manipulate the Bible would manipulate anything anyway. I just want to show you that the author of the book they manipulated has disowned them in the letter attached.

Thanks Emusan for this.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy please take it easy faith shouldn't create aggression you are taking this too far.
If you believe A and i believe B it shouldn't lead to this!

Not so. I'm just really offended that you guys have dragged many souls to hell, and you here are still supporting the obvious evils even after you have read about it in black and white. You've even watched videos as well, yet you remain adamant. Your reluctance to even verify the information as a honest seeker of truth is the most worrisome. Each time you read about the honest findings of people here about the satanic organization to which you belong, your only robotic response is Better Performing Organization. You've been messed up. You look absolutely irredeemable but Jesus Christ can still deliver you if you humble yourself before Him.

MaxInDHouse:
Oteneaaron has gotten you the way he wants now you're filled with aggression.

Just take it easy so you won't have high blood pressure your fury can't change anything we choose to believe unless you present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Keep your mouth shut with the better performing organization nonsense. Better performing organization of fraudsters who mistranslate scriptures to suit their own ideologies. No fear of God whatsoever! So an organization that deliberately manipulated scriptures is a better performance organization? Something must be wrong with you.

Aemmyjah:
Well, Pope that is not worthy of trust
Blessing wars and homosexuality and everything God forbids
We are not moved if Pope says he should be trusted by his people
Has he proven worthy?
Should he be venerated?

My dear, don't be stupid. Please I beg you for the sake of your eternity.

There's a reason why some of us don't trust the Pope, but of course not the Bible translation that are translated by trained scholars in the source languages of the Bible. We didn't even trust their scholarship, as right thinking humans we have gone to verify if the translations were done in complete honesty before we can accept them. This can't be said of you, you see how foolish your response is? You hang your life on the translations of people who know neither Greek nor Hebrew. Something is wrong somewhere if you're still defending this nonsense.

Courz:
Very good question. Just like someone who is well educated on a Subject like Mathematics, we cannot say the same for the Translation team of JW. None of them knew Biblical Greek and Hebrew. One taught the language to himself but still failed to translate a verse when he was asked to do so in a Court proceeding, showing to you the amount of Fraud these Watchtower people committed. They kept their identity for years perhaps in order to avoid criticism. But eventually their names were released. This person who Failed to translate a verse in Court was their Former president of Watchtower,Fred Franz. These are the people Jehovah's Witnesses allowed to translate and interpret the Bible for them even though they were never qualified for such. Same way a parent foolishly allows a teacher who doesn't have a degree in Mathematics and has proven to be unqualified to teach.

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky and Michael547, if you know this and continue to be deceived, you're compound fools.

If you didn't know this before, and reading it now, you fail to confirm the information and review your standing with the organization, something is definitely wrong with your head. You need to get treated ASAP. That's not ordinary.

Aemmyjah:
Which national defense did the Apostles speak against

I bet you didn't even read your question.

Courz:
Yes. That's what they believe. Their Governing body is The Way, The Truth and The Life. Jesus has been replaced. Typical Antichrist organisation.

Chai!

Maxindhouse, when will you get sense?

achorladey:
Those 4 will populated this same planet with

1. Madness and insanities peddling
2. Mumu and no get sense peddling
3. Stupid peddlings
4. Irrelevant questions that leads to failure

When all those under their subjection don't dance to the tune of their madness and insanities peddling

Cc: FxMasterz

Lol.

achorladey:
This one don't even understand what he his quoting as Bible verse

For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitable naked and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked and clothe you 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 In reply the King will say to them, ‘Truly[b]I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me[/b]

It was Jesus that was showing them who they did it to not them recognising who they did it to

The lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains about the scripture Courz is talking about.

cc Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron

The guy knows what he was doing. Check all his Bible quotes, you'll find him deliberately twisting Scriptures to authenticate his unscriptural points. He's a confirmed child of the devil.

MaxInDHouse:
The new converts in Beroea paid attention to the fulfillment of Bible prophecies regarding the Jewish group that will be teaching people of the nations what God required {Zechariah 8:23} they already know about the God of the Jews as the only true God that's why they had faith in what was written by the prophets of old. So when they discovered that the disciples of Christ are going to meet people in their homes discussing with them about God {Malachi 3:16-18} they realized that their teacher must be the real Messiah whose teaching will make peace reign globally among true worshipers of God! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to 9:6

Balderdash. Who wouldn't puke at the sight of this nonsense?

Just read the nonsense you typed.

MaxInDHouse:
What if the accusers lied to you and the same teacher has taught students who performed excellently using mathematics to do wonders?
Won't you be skeptical about those accusing this teacher?

Come on!

None of all those claiming they are translators have ever produced a global family of peace loving worshipers just as this group did so who is fooling who? Matthew 7:16-18

The thing is that you hate the truth.

Have you seen the below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2yENjWGvc?si=qMsTMiFUw8LAEPS_

MaxInDHouse:
What if the accusers lied to you and the same teacher has taught students who performed excellently using mathematics to do wonders?
Won't you be skeptical about those accusing this teacher?

Come on!

None of all those claiming they are translators have ever produced a global family of peace loving worshipers just as this group did so who is fooling who? Matthew 7:16-18

The thing is that you hate the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2yENjWGvc?si=qMsTMiFUw8LAEPS_

oteneaaron:
Hey Courz, check out this video!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2yENjWGvc?si=qMsTMiFUw8LAEPS_

The lady asked a very important question - Why didn't JWs call their translation a "Bible"?

Once again, this is a great thread.

CC: Emusan, Achorladey, FxMasterz

Oh, they have a different name for it? Interesting!

Emusan:
That's what they want to achieve and this is to console themselves as; after all, we're not the only one that has defects.



He knows but he can't do anything.

I raised issue about Jws in the Northern part of Nigeria, because of that he change his definition of PERSECUTION.

My next post made him go into ghost mode



He will never give you a straight forward answer.

Just as Courz has pointed out throughout his OP, their translation is a deliberate twisted version to support their doctrines not that they did the work as open minded people.

The most astonishing part is that none of the people involved in the translation has sound knowledge of both Hebrew and Greek.

My question to them is, do you think a teacher who knows nothing about Mathematics can give a sound lecture on Mathematics to your child?

Can you even enroll your child under such a teach?

The bolded really caught my attention.

Maxindhouse, here's a question for you. Would you enrol your child with a so called teacher of maths who know next to nothing about mathematics?

MaxInDHouse:
You're just deceiving yourself!

Nobody has seen God before but we all know what to expect from the true God so as long as there is a group that's meeting up with what the Bible foretold ọmọ you have no excuse you're simply being REBELLIOUS!

Nobody has seen God before, yet we all know what to expect from the true God. How do you know what to expect from the true God? The God whom you have not seen before, told you what to expect from Him, or some men told you what to expect from Him, or you arrived at an expectation by your own limited thinking?

Do like the Bereans and search out what you're told before believing anything. That's the command we have of God. Anyone who tells you not to verify him is a deceiver.

MaxInDHouse:
If everyone on this planet are like these four you mentioned there will be no more wars on this planet.
Just imagine that! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:3

But everyone on this planet are not like these 4 Mentioned. Not everyone would be like zombies who receive instructions from others claiming God's mouth pieces without verification. These 4 hood a heavily manipulated book dear to their heart, calling it a bible. These 4 are grownups who think that some GB in the USA have their visas to paradise. How can everyone be like that?

Emusan:
That is what they brainwashed them with which can never be supported with any scriptures.

Reason you see them asking question like: tell me other PERFORMING PERFORMING GROUP, who have truth today apart from Jws? Bla bla

So, when you confront them with the Biblical truth that there's no such thing as PERFORMING PERFORMING GROUP, they feel defected and begin to look for blame game and switch to the next line, what is the name of your church?

Meanwhile, this question was asked in other to start posting different story in comparison in case you talk about watchtower.

The last line they are using now is this WAR and POLITICS.

But believe me, it's just a strawman.

Their leaders called themselves Governing Body where do they get that idea from? Politics! That is why if you know the politics being played in their Headquarter in Warwick, you'll know this one's are just deceiving themselves.

Exactly my brother.

Best Performing Group, What is the name of your church, then followed by unbalanced views regarding events for the sake of criticism once you name a church. That's their stereotyped line of argument. When a person is brainwashed, he's usually very predictable.

I've been asking Maxindhouse how he confirmed by himself that his organization has not been deceiving him. I had wanted to know how he researched the truth outside of his organization to see that everything he's been told is in correct alignment with the foundations of Christianity, and that the Bible they've given him is in tandem with the original writings. The guy has been playing hide and seek since then. Up till now, no answer. Instead he decides to be dribbling himself thinking he's dribbling FxMasterz.

achorladey:
When the Governing Body say God trust them completely and ask members the reason they have not to do the same. you know the kind of control and subservient they want from those under them.

Let the pope tell Catholics that they should trust him completely. Jehovah’s witnesses will quote Psalms 146:3 to such member of Catholic that the Pope is a liar and going against what is written in the Bible

Is that not double standard?

Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael547, see your life outside.

achorladey:
That's suicide, it's like asking him to put a gun to his head.

They will ask him instantly

Does he believe Jehovah and Jesus is using only the faithful and discreet slave aka governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses to dispense spiritual food today?

Say No and get your apostate label free without charge. It is the only question that matter most. Accepting Jehovah and Jesus without faithful and discreet slave not welcomed

Lol.

I guess their governing body members are the only ones who provide visa to paradise.

achorladey:
This is the same thing they will readily say to all other religious denominations about their beliefs when they want them to join the Jehovah's Witnesses. Say so to the same Jehovah's Witnesses, you begin to hear apostate, Satan's agent, you are reading and listening to apostates

There heads and minds have been tampered with. They don't even reason like grownups.

achorladey:
Gbam from deadly arm and aggression. .

Even their GODS of men housed in USA wrote printed that in their religious publications

Don't mind those guys. They're hypnotized.

MaxInDHouse:
Humans don't need books if we're to use our initiative in doing what is right so if anyone brings a book to you claiming it's God's word then the author of such a book must have His objective.
What is the objective of the Author of Bible?
He Himself has revealed it in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 and Zephaniah 3:9

Any religion meeting up with this fulfillment has gotten 99.9% if not everything right.

So you're deceiving yourself if you can't present a better performing group than that yet claiming they manipulated the same book that all other religions have been using for centuries without achieving that goal!

A group that is manipulating scriptures, giving fake prophecies with ever changing doctrines is better performing? Check your head please. You've been hypnotized.
Have you confirmed your organization's teaching against original biblical writings and messages? How did you confirm that your leaders are not lying to you or you as an adult don't have a mind of your own to verify truth?

Maybe you're enjoying the benefits you get from your security job at the organization. Don't allow ephemeral benefits put you into eternal loss.

Do the right thing today. There's no excuse for being deceived when you can verify truth for yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
The only important question is:

Who are true Christians?
Should they engage in wars?
How can true Christians go to war without killing their fellow believers?

Only God's word can help people to answer this questions and prove themselves spotless in the face of hatred spread by Satan's would. Revelations 6:3-4

So any translation of the Bible that has helped people to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} must have been backed up by the spirit of God during it's translation! Hebrews 4:12

Have you confirmed your organization's teaching against original biblical writings and messages? How did you confirm that your leaders are not lying to you or you as an adult don't have a mind of your own to verify truth?

Maybe you're enjoying the benefits you get from your security job at the organization. Don't allow ephemeral benefits put you into eternal loss.

Do the right thing today. There's no excuse for being deceived when you can verify truth for yourself.

achorladey:
He is still peddling questions everywhere

Foolish and unrelated questions for that matter. If only he can question his so called leaders in JW.