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chopnaira:
I don't know about calabar but Ibos were far from being neat according to historical articles. In the old days, Ijaws make fun ibos not being clean.

Abeg try screenshot the Yoruba part of that book too make I feed my eyes.

"The Yoruba are thought to be nationalistic or even chauvinistic..."

22jumpstreet:
It is your fake understanding of scriptures that is the problem with you lot....

Isaiah was talking about future king Hezekiah that was already born and around 6 years old. You are mistranslating it as a prophetic verse for the jman.
God is not a man or the son of man , it is clearly stated in numbers 23:19 and in Hosea..but you won't accept it..

God is the creator of heaven and Earth, he can't be part of earth...it is not just possible..He can only be outside of the universe or the universe itself...

God is the universal divine spirit...

Not a Jewish man up in the sky...

So that 6yr old child was called the Mighty God, Everlasting Father.. isn't it?

AnambraPikinSel:
Do you know what Abia mean in Yoruba language?

In Yoruba, it is Abiya. Abijah has its counterpart in Yoruba as Abija. Yorùbá words never have a 'h' ending.

Should we say Yoruba is Jewish too?

DOptical:
See wailing at the face of facts. Ode.

Ooni is the central head! That's a fact. Facts remain unchanged

Dullard. Who says he's not?

Olu317:
Lol. Alaafin is disrespectful like oba bini in a way butn in a different way.

Alaafin is a maternal descent of Oranmiyan historically. And from 1839, that the title Alaafin was created after Oluewu/ Olukuewu was betrayed by warriors and Atiba who connived with Olu Ilorin /Emir Ilorin and killed /beheaded him at Ilorin.

Olufe Ooni Lajamisan was a direct biological son of Oranmiyan andcontinue even which Olufe Ooni Ojaja Ogunwusi is a direct male descent .

Alaafin is not disrespectful. The Ooni knows. Traditionally, the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni because the ife stool was first occupied by a king who left ìfẹ for a war expedition that later led to him founding Oyo ilé.

The Ooni was a chief priest of ife who was authorized to administer the throne in the absence of the Oba. Since the Oba never returned, the chief priest eventually became the oba while the self exiled oba became Alaafin in Oyo. The Alaafin therefore can't bow to the Ooni but must respect the stool the Ooni sits on as the original seat of his forefathers.

If the Alaafin was a son of the Ooni, he would definitely bow. He can't disrespect his father.

DOptical:
Who told you he doesn't know his home? Ode. His crown is from Ife as a matter of fact.

Can't you see the picture where Ooni is at the central or you dey craze?

You're really stupid.

Who says the Ooni is not the traditional ruler of Yoruba land?

Dullard!

DOptical:
will you keep quiet with your constant gibberish? Ode.

The picture below should give you a brain. And yes, Ooni is the central head!

You're daft.

Why is it that the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni? If only you have sense, that question would enlighten you. You can't know better than me.

DOptical:
Will you shut up with your constant gibberish?

I would leave you with this picture. Ooni is the central father figure!

Arrogant ignoramus! Who says Oni is not? He sits on the highest stool in Yoruba land abjugated to him by the king as I earlier stated. Go and ask why the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni.

DOptical:
See tears and wailing at the face of facts. You started the insult by misrepresenting facts while saying gibberish! I deal in fact, not stupidity. If you weren't stupid you would know Oranmiyan was the first ruler of Oyo and his son continued the reign, just like his other sons ruled Bini and Ife. Oranmiyan is the Link while Ooni of Ife is the head and is under no empire. Ooni is the father, even as Oba of Bini always referred to the Ooni as his father.

As I said, Ooni dresses like Obatala who's the first king of Ife and his descendants continued to reign before another Yoruba named man, Oduduwa of Oke ora was also picked by Ifa to become the king thereby signifying the creation of the universe where both Obatala and Oduduwa formed the equal halves of a sphere which created the universe.

I am an Oyo Prince. If you don't understand what I wrote, shut up and get out of my mentions.

DOptical:
Ode. Have you seen the letter of the Oba of Bini to Ife where he called him Oghene, father?

If you had a brain, you would know Obatala and Oduduwa were both the king of Ife. And no, the Ooni dresses like Obatala which means purity & enlightenment. Ife is the home of the Yoruba hence has no empire because it controls both the east and west of the Yoruba. The great great grandchild of Oduduwa, Oranmiyan left for igodomido (a Yoruba named camp) to put order in the place while civilizing it. He left his child as the king of Bini and returned to Ife to become the king. He later left another of his child in Ife and Left for Oyo where he also became the king. Thus Oranmiyan was the link. His son at the central of Ife controls the affair of the central, East and West of the Yoruba while he was under no empire. However the West was controlled by another Oranmiyan's son in Oyo who controls the affair of the West which was under the affair of the Oyo empire. While the East of Yoruba was controlled by another of Oranmiyan's son in Bini. Hence why the Oba of Bini back then was allowed to act anyhow he liked in every Yoruba land. So, Oranmiyan was the link however Ife was the central head of everything and was under no empire hence why he was called Oghene, the father by Oba of Bini. He's the head of everything.

I don't discuss with brainless kids. I only stated facts according as it is written in books. Abusing me and insulting me in order to state your points shows how brainless and untrained you are. Children that lack home training should get off my mentions. I don't reply nonentities.

Danand1:
You better don't let this get to ooni of ife's palace😀😀

He knows it for real. This is true history. Not bear parlour gist.

Danand1:
Infact check the whole oba in Yoruba land, ooni dresses differently from other Yoruba kings, which could literally means there is kinda influence from outside culture, and the closest is Benin.
If the not other kings in Yoruba land should have been dressing as the ooni

The Ooni was not a king but an ifa priest. The original king of ife went on a war against popular advice. Before he left he installed the priest of ife as administrattor in his absence. The king was stopped by the river Niger on his war expedition. Due to shame, he couldn't return back to ife. He turned aside and founded Oyo ilé which now metamorphosed into Oyo Empire. The ife king never returned to ife till he died but he ruled as Alaafin of Oyo in his self exile. Meanwhile the ife priest who was installed as administrator became king and was referred to as Ooni of ife. The Ooni dresses like an ifa priest till today because he is indeed an ifa priest.

This also explains why the Ooni gives up his stool to the king of Benin on a visitation. The king of Benin is Omo n' ọba which means Omo Oba (Prince) in Yoruba land. With the understanding that the Oba of Benin is an ife Prince, the Ifa Priest must honour the prince whenever he visits.

Weretuntun:
I WANT PASTORS AND RELIGIOUS PROFESSORS,TO SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE.
CAN A PERSON THAT SOLD HIS/HER SOUL TO DEVIL INEXCHANGE OF RICHES,MONEY,FAME AND POWER,BE REDEEM BY JESUS CHRIST?...

With Jesus, all souls are redeemable.

That's why Jesus paid the price with His costly blood that is more pricey than any payment hell must have made on a soul.

1 Corinthians 6:20
"For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

The price at which Jesus buys is more than the price at which any soul can be sold. Hence, all souls of man are redeemable.

This is why Jesus shed His blood to cover for all scenarios regarding the dilemma faced by the human soul in the hands of Satan. While other religions in their myopic views of the soul's travail only talk of forgiveness. Christ talks of redemption. God does not only forgive, He also redeems, and He redeems everyone by the blood of Jesus.

1 Peter 1:18-20
"For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake."

Omu aràn is his hometown. So, attending any burial event in his own town is not out of place. He could attend that of a Muslim cleric too. You don't know the family ties that exist between their extended families.

PeterObi4Presid:
Please, this call for opinion/advise is strictly directed to people in the Lord who have been in my shoes, and who are genuinely on fire for God , not to some random nominal Christians who aren't sure of their standing with God or some argumentator who only get validation from likes. Thanks for understanding.


Now, since I gave my life to God, a lot has changed about my life...tangible radical changes.
One of those changes is in that most times or when I go on fasting spree, I find it hard to combine spiritual exercise and my secular interest that are also important

We all know we have to work to feed. And we also have to explore our interests, but in my case, my fervency for spiritual things almost always takes my mind off other things in such that I can't concentrate on them as I would wish, as spiritual matters takes up my mind the more.
Many times I feel guilty that it sort of makes me procrastinate on personal interest I am working on as I spend my concentration on reading Bible, trying to memorize verses, fasting and praying...And as we also know, fasting takes away strength and inclines one more to spiritual things more than secular personal matters...

How do I strike a balance and still continue to burn for God?
Sincerely, my love for God increases and being fervent brings inner joy and more revelation, but anytime I occupy my mind with my secular pursuit for maybe a week, i notice i feel less connected to God and lose my peace and physical touches of the spirit.....I dont know what i am missing, i truly desire wisdom in this matter....cos i do also have career interest that needs deep attention and full cognition....
I will appreciate sincere reply by true men or sons of God On how to switch between both world and operate effectively in both sides and still maintain concentration

The Lord will continue to strengthen you brother.

First and foremost, always remember that "It is not by power, nor by might, but my Spirit, says the Lord." Always ask for help from the strong Helper before embarking on spiritual exercises. He is your Helper for this reason too. Discuss your weaknesses with Him. You'll be surprised how greatly helped you will be. Do not lean on your own understanding.

Secondly, you need to understand the very purpose of fasting. The major work fasting does in your life is to sharpen your spirit and further enhance your spiritual antenna for receptivity. Your spirit man enjoys strong spiritual signal, always refreshed by fasting. This opens you up to revelations, deeper spiritual understanding and unhindered connectivity with the Heavenlies.

Do not think that fasting forces God to answer prayers or gives you some super powers like many religious folks think. You could enjoy increased power flow and higher spiritual authority as an aftermath of fasting but the very purpose is to gain more spiritual connectivity. Knowing the purpose of fasting can help us set our priorities aright and give us the means to plan our fasting times appropriately.

I have learnt from experience that the best fasting is the one done in absolute seclusion. The Lord Jesus separated Himself to a mountain for 40 days for this reason. While it isn't necessary for anyone to go to a mountain before embarking on a fast, the same principle of individual seclusion still holds true. You might want to lock up yourself in your room to be alone with God without interaction with any human. This means, it's much better and appropriate to plan your fasting for your free days. Personally, I chose Saturdays and Sundays. I can still decide to fast on any other day in seclusion as well since I do not have any human boss who entangles me. While in seclusion, my entire focus is on the fast as I shut the world behind me. I do not bother myself about anything else until I come out from seclusion.

Seek the wisdom of the Holy Spirit for the planning of your fast. God deals with us individually. You might decide to plan your lengthy fasts for your holidays or leave periods. This would allow you to concentrate on your spiritual obligations during the fast without being disturbed by secular affairs. Let your wife know your fasting rules - no disturbance or interruption during my seclusion period.

Please, I do not infer that fasting without seclusion does not do any good. Fasting without seclusion delivers its profits as well but fasting in seclusion delivers more benefits.

If you're to fast without seclusion, ask the Holy Ghost to help you in your weaknesses. Tell Him the things you want to do. "Holy Spirit, I want to fast today but I still have many secular affairs to attend to. Help me to maximize this period of my waiting on the Lord without affecting my secular life. I do not want to be negligent of the secular activities that are expected of me." Just talk to Him, and He'll help.

"You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you."

Reflect7:
More excuses for FORGERY and LIES.

How do you know that Jesus is okay with you worshiping a WHITE MAN in his place?

Especially after you have been shown he was a BLACK MAN?

IF HE LIVED HERE AS A BLACK MAN, WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE THAT HE IS HAPPY WITH YOU FEELING HIS COLOUR IS INFERIOR AND THUS SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH THAT OF A WHITE MAN?

And then you start to worship the white image? Calling it 'Jesus'?

IT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD YOU SAYING THAT ''the colour doesn't matter, but the essence of what he said'' etc etc.

What if HE doesn't see it that way?

AFTER ALL the Bible God is really big on not worshiping 'false images' etc.

He does care about the physical.. It's not all airy-fairy 'spiritual essence', as you claim.

So if you were really a CHRISTIAN, you would respect the way your ''LORD'' looked in real life, and insist he be portrayed as he was, not as your white racist colonisers lied and brainwashed you to believed he looked.

Did you really read that we do not worship Jesus as a human? We do not worship Him as a Black or White. We are not idolaters. If you do not understand, then remain without understanding. I have nothing to discuss with you. You can keep arguing with yourself even after I gave you supportive Scriptures.

If it's a matter of whether a white or black Jesus was the One who came into the world, you may be understood. But when it comes to who we worship, we worship no colour because we do not worship a human being but God.

Expanse2020:
Hypocrite pro max😂😂🤣🤣
Skin color didn't matter after they lied to you

There's no true believer who worships Jesus as a human. That's where the Catholics miss it. You Muslims are very ignorant.

Reflect7:
You are talking absolute RUBBISH.

Why does the POPE pray to the Black Jesus in secret?

Are you more Christian than him?

Why doesn’t he reason like you?

MUMU.

Just admit that you are content to be a white worshiping slave.

You are even ANGRY to learn that Jesus was a black man.

Take your excuses and Stuff em up your slave butthole.

White man worshiper claiming to be worshiping God.

GOD HAS REVEALED TO YOU HOW HE LOOKED. AND YOU ARE REJECTING HIM.

Because you worship the WHITE MAN.

You don’t worship GOD.

We don't worship Jesus by colour. We worship Him in the Spirit. His human colour is immaterial. We do not worship Him as a man but as God, and God is neither black nor white.

If you're worshipping a black or white Jesus, you're not a Christian. You're an idolater just like those Popes who worship images.

2Cor. 5:15
"So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view. At one time we thought of Christ merely from a human point of view. How differently we know him now!"

Our acknowledgement of Jesus is not from the human point of view but from the Spirit point of view. A spirit has no colour.

May God give you understanding.

AbuTwins:
Yeah I agree! The Psalms is not God-breathed! Church fathers admitted Psalms with unknown writers into the Bible!

Authors don't have to be known in order for psalms to be God breathed. It isn't a criteria at all. You're ignorant.

I will hand you over to the mods! I no get time!

Tell the mods that you're busy discussing whether or not David wrote psalm 138 on your ka'aba thread but you're afraid of discussing the origin of the ka'aba on your kaaba thread. I understand, the lies regarding the ka'aba are too difficult to defend.

Again. How come Abraham is credited with the building of the ka'aba when he never visited Mecca?

AbuTwins:
So you know there are unknown writers and that's what you were afraid of?

Don't worry i know all that and more!

It doesn't concern us. The Psalms didn't fall from heaven like the lying claims of the Quran.

The thread is about Muslims worshipping the Kaaba and not Abraham and the Kaaba!

We can't talk about Muslims worshiping the ka'aba without talking about the origin of the ka'aba.

How come Abraham is said to have built the ka'aba when he never visited Mecca? Is that a difficult question to answer?

AbuTwins:
Who wrote the entire Psalms?
Writers unknown but ascribed to David, Moses, 11 sons of Korah, Heman, Asaph, Solomon,...! Is that difficult to say?

Keep deceiving yourself. Majority of the Psalms have known writers. Even if the writer of a song is unknown, it does not render it less a song for worshipping God.

That's not the topic of this thread!

This thread is talking about the ka'aba. Don't run from the question.

Abraham never visited Mecca. How come he built the ka'aba? Let's talk about this particular lie regarding the ka'aba.

AbuTwins:
Don't divert the attention away from your lies!

Who exactly wrote of David in that Psalms?

And who wrote Psalms 138 if not David?

It's a psalm. Part of the collection of songs. It's not every song you sing you must know the writer of it. Those were songs used to worship God in Israel in those days. David was not the writer of that particular psalm. Period.

Let's talk about your lies. Bible prophets are not Muslims. Abraham didn't build any ka'aba in Mecca. They're all deceptions.

AbuTwins:
So who sang it?

Muslims?

Lol. So, you agree that the prophets of the Bible were not Muslims contrary to the lies that you lots have been spreading around?

Abraham who never visited anywhere near Mecca was even said to have built the ka'aba by the liars.

May God have mercy on you.

AbuTwins:
Who wrote "of David" there when you claim David didn't write it?

Who is the liar?

The publisher of course. That they wrote 'of David' does not mean David sang it.

AbuTwins:
The last portion of your screenshot!

The Psalms are generally called Psalm of David because David wrote most of them but He did not write all of them.

AbuTwins:
Quote Psalm 138:1-2

Screenshot:

AbuTwins:
So tell me O liar, who put David's name in that verse i quoted? Psalm 138:1-2

Ignorant Muslim. Point out David's name in the verse!

AbuTwins:
So who wrote this liar?
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else! Psalm 138:1-2

Majority of the Muslims have never been to the Kaaba. They bow towards its direction. Why do you have to keep telling lies and misrepresenting facts?

Bowing towards: When you bow towards someone or something, it means you are directing your bow in their general direction. It can be a gesture of respect, acknowledgement, or reverence. Bowing towards signifies the act of physically orienting yourself in the direction of the person or object you are bowing towards.

Bowing to: On the other hand, when you bow to someone, it implies a more specific action of showing deference or submission to that person. Bowing to someone indicates that you are acknowledging their authority, status, or superiority. It is a gesture of respect and humility, often used in formal or ceremonial contexts.


What is worship?
How do we worship the Kaaba?
How is kissing worship in Christianity?
When Jesus put his face to the ground who was he worshipping?

Solomon was the one who built the temple. It wasn't it existence in Dave's day. How can David bow to a temple that didn't exist? You Ignorant Muslim.

David wrote a portion of the Psalms, not all the Psalms. Research before calling someone a liar for educating you.

May God open your eyes. They even said Abraham built the ka'aba. Liars!

AbuTwins:
The more reason we say you guys are ignorant! The Kaaba remains a stone Allah attributed to Himself and the enlightened Christian believed the explanation.

This is your David bowing towards the Holy temple!
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2

This is your Solomon!
1 Kings 8:29
May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.

This is David again!
Psalm 5:7
But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.


This is David again!
Psalm 28:2
Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.

And Daniel got on his kneels and prayed!
Daniel 6:10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Ignorant hypocrites and liars!
Who told you we worship the stone from our texts?

David didn't bow to any temple. The temple was not in existence in David's time. Psalm 138 wasn't written by David. Muslims are very ignorant and yet arrogant to think that they know the Bible more than Christians.

Muslims bow to the ka'aba but Jews bow TOWARDS the temple. They don't bow to the temple. Hope you understand my point? Simple English there. Boeing towards is different from bowing to.

Muslims kiss the stone and worship it. Jews don't. The ka'aba is the idol Allah that Muslims worship.

This is commendable.

This is quite an eye opening and very educative post. Thank you OP.

Expanse2020:
I believe in ISSA ,iSho, Yehesua, Jesus P.B.U.H as the messenger, servant of the Greatest Almighty God which I follow his practice till today but not
As my God or personal savior and I believe he didn't die talkless of dieing for me..
He was a man with his own special power just like any other prophets with there own special power..

You can't believe in Jesus without appropriating the sacrifice He made for you to your life.

What special power did Mohammed have. He came only to deceive you. Nothing more.