Janosky: Did God promise everlasting life to animals?
Did God give animals any command given to Noah?
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Did God promise everlasting life to anyone in Noah's day? Quote the scriptures alluding to that promise.
Your questions are offpoint. Your friend wants us to believe that God destroyed the babies in Noah's day because they were God's enemy. Whether the animals received a command or not, were they also destroyed because they were God's enemies?
If you watched the video above, you didn't hear wrongly.
Stephen Lett, a current member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has called babies "enemies of god" .
Here are his exact words quoted:
What do you think about this line of reasoning?
Do you truly agree with Jehovah's Witnesses that Babies are enemies of god?
I look forward to your comments.
Have a great Sunday.
He was obviously using his defective logic to interpret scriptures. Meanwhile Jesus said 'Let little children come unto me for of such is the Kingdom of God." Who is he to call them God's enemies when God said they're His friends? My dear MaxinDHouse, this is one of the things I was telling you about.
God should be able to forgive without asking for the Blood of anyone. Reason why the supposedly "sacrifice" of Jesus won't sell with me and Millions of others.
If I sin, the punishment should be for me and not one guy who was not willing to die anyways.
But keep at it bro!
All is well bro. It's because of what you were taught. You don't know what sin really is. Mohammed's concept of sin is different from that of all the prophets he imported into the Quran. His god is obviously different from the God of those prophets. Think about that.
Again, all you need is an encounter with the living Jesus. Nothing will change in your life until you meet Him.
Lukuluku69: I was not told in any Mosque! I read his story all by myself!
No one can take his life from him but he had to wait till Judas rat him out? He could have just kill himself and save everyone the Trouble. Don't you think?
Of what use is a SACRIFICE when you are going to have your life back? And in 3 Days?!
Sacrifice: you let go completely, you forgo.
I don't need God to kill Himself to appease Himself for my sake, when He could just forgive my trespasses.
May God give you understanding.
Suicide is sin. A sacrifice never kills Himself.
He gave His life completely on earth while serving the punishment of your sins. You couldn't pay the price to be free from God's eternal condemnation. He paid for you. If you accept that He paid for you, then you're free. If you reject the payment, you remain condemned and eternal damnation awaits the confirmed. All He did was because of His love for you.
And as you could see, everything He did was already prophesied thousands of years before He came. It was God's original plan to rescue man from the errors of his own ways. Jesus Christ the Messaiah was the consummation of that plan. That's why He fulfilled all the Messaianic prophecies without leaving anything out. That is in itself a miracle. A proof that the Messaiah has come. A proof that Islam was an afterthought of Satan who sought later on to bury the Messaianic salvation and recruit many souls for hell. Jesus still loves you. I just wish you could encounter Him the way my chronic Muslim dad encountered Him about some 50 yrs ago. Just one encounter is all you need. All the lies of Islam and its veils of deception would fall before you like a pack of cards. Just an encounter with Jesus. Your life will change.
MaxInDHouse: Guy you don't know anything about the FRUIT of FAITH!
There are lot of nice people in all the religions on this planet so if that's what you call the fruit of faith then forget about Jesus because then you have nothing to prove that it's only through Jesus that people can be saved unless what you find written in the Bible, meanwhile all other religions also have something nice to say about their faith!
The works of faith are very clear and well established in scripture. You can't even teach me that. For you to tell me that I don't know anything about the works of faith is already a sign that you must have been deceived to believe that you're the only ones who have knowledge.
oteneaaron: This is an accurate description of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I can assure you that very soon on this thread, as long as you stand your ground, it won't be long before they start raining insults on you, or start calling you names.
Their hypocrisy is legendary.
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Yes, from what I know of them, I was already anticipating the insults and name-calling.
Strung up, stripped and whipped. How can that one be a Saviour?
The Messiah will rule, please show me where he ever ruled. Someone wey no get house to sleep yet he you are claiming Rulership for him?
He couldn't even save his ownself according to your Bible, so how can he save me? And talking about saving, save me from what exactly?
Were you told in your mosques that He couldn't save Himself? Jesus came to fulfil prophecies. Before His death on the cross, He told His disciples in John 10:18:
"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.”
Bro, all mankind need salvation from eternal condemnation. Jesus came to be condemned for you so that you can be eternally justified. Eternal condemnation leads to eternal damnation.
TenQ: It is the Spirit of Islam The bible speaks of the descendants of Ismael that they would be WILD DONKEYS, fighting against each other and everyone else.
The spirit of Islam is one of the spirits of the AntiChrist (instead of Christ) and till date the most successful. Mohammed replaced Jesus for Muslims.
Even though the Qur'an promises them hell fire, they choose to overlook it focusing more on the rituals of religion
Meanwhile religious rituals, be it Christian, Islam, Hindu or whatsoever it may be are useless to the soul of man. They guarantee nothing. They don't give eternal life.
MaxInDHouse: My guy that's not how to evaluate the WORKS of FAITH!
Individual Christians in the first century also behave the same way JWs here do behave so don't deceive yourself with how imperfect humans reciprocate to the insults from unbelievers.
Do you want to know what the Bible refer to as WORKS (FRUIT) of FAITH that no other group has been able to produce apart from Jehovah's Witnesses?
I maintain that Jehovah Witnesses have not produced any work of faith as seen in the Bible. I have seen many Christians who exhibit the likeness of Christ in their day to day relationships with people. If you're being told that only JWs produce works of faith, that's a blatant lie. The works I've seen so far being produced by the JWs that I have had the opportunity to meet and interact with are nothing to write home about. They first pretend to be very nice people but once you get closer to them, they'll show you their true colors.
MaxInDHouse: The Pharisees surely studied the scriptures more than anyone else in the first century {Luke 11:49} the only problem they had was denying what God promised as sign of the presence of the Christ!
So if Jesus quotes a verse Pharisees will also quote another to counter it but one thing is missing in them: they can't correlate what they're practicing with what God's word foretold about His future worshipers. That is what Jesus meant when he said:
"Do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? If I am not doing the works of my Father, do not believe me. But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may come to know and may continue knowing that the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.” John 10:36-38
Do you notice that Pharisees also claim Jesus was teaching HERESY? So what has Jesus got to say in defense since the Jews found his teachings to be heretic? He reminded them of what God promised about the time when the Christ will walk through the land of Israel, so instead of arguing with Jesus what they need to consider is the WORKS of FAITH that Jesus was doing and establishing. Matthew 7:16-18
Today there are so many signs fulfilling in the WORKS of FAITH done by Jehovah's Witnesses! James 2:18-26
So if anyone wants to convince others that JWs are heretic in their teachings let such a person present a performing group that's producing the fruit of faith in our time!
I disagree with you. I can't see any work of faith produced by any JW member anywhere. Even here on Nairaland, I see you and your fellows fighting and insulting people who criticise your views. I'm sure you guys are very pretentious but the truth is that apart from the heresy of your ways, your lack of godly characters betrays you.
MaxInDHouse: You don't know what you're saying because if you say a doctrine is HERETIC it simply means such doctrine is strange to you as in you haven't heard of such before, yet if such doctrine is PRODUCING the fruit of faith then you're the one who is fighting against God! Act 5:38-39
Note that the Jews in the first century also thought that Jesus' teachings is HERETIC so they continued to criticize him and his disciples until they killed him and many of his disciples but then the group they claimed is of HERETIC doctrines were the only group throughout all Israel that was producing the fruit of faith in the first century.
So instead of following those antagonizing any group why not ask for the fruit of God's Holy Spirit as foretold in the Bible? Matthew 7:15-18
A doctrine isn't heretic just because it's strange to me or because I've not heard it before. Just like the Berean church, every new doctrines must be confirmed by scripture. That's what the Pharisees failed to do in Christ's time that made them see Him as an heretic. However, those who took their time to look into the script found out that He was of the truth.
Your case isn't so. The doctrines he alluded to on your website have no Biblical basis. They're heretic for that sole reason.
They are sentimentally emotionally defending Islam
One thing I noticed is that a Muslim never bothers whenever you tell him about the need to seriously consider destination of his soul in eternity. He doesn't even care about that. He'll be cursing and fighting you, doing things that are anti-god in a bid to defend Islam and yet he considers himself a worshiper of God. Look at how legalwolf for example throws a lot of insults and ill mannered words on this platform daily. That's completely ungodly but he considers himself a staunch worshipper of God. How can someone be deceiving himself that ḿuch?
A lie peddled by charlatans who didn't know that nobody ever said God was white. Fools who didn't know that the colonial masters were different from the missionaries and that the missionaries were not all whites.
Damned souls who do not know that Christianity does not thrive on the basis of what anyone tells you but on the basis of your own personal encounters and experience with God.
Satan has scammed your souls but it's a pity you think you're wise when actually your the most foolish of all people. The end would tell. There's no point arguing with fools. Don't mention me. I ignore fools gladly.
MaxInDHouse: Well this is about people having faith not those without faith. So if truly you're interested in matters of faith then find out the organization of people doing God's will today!
Bro, the organization of people doing God's will would not uphold heretic doctrines.
TenQ: It is a religion that thrives in brainwashing her people. It looks like the demons of Islam possesses them that they cannot recognise either the truth nor discern what a lie is until they die!
It's not ordinary when the greatest Deceiver 419's a person.
Courz: Good. You noticed his tactics. If you watch Mad Max very well, he is still a Muslim. He uses Muslim mindset to explain JW doctrines. Watchtower loves to lie and teach JWs how to do so as well. They are not aware of it until they wake up from the Cult. So, if you need to discuss with a JW, be very prepared and knowledgeable. Once you do that, no matter how many times they twist words for you to confuse you, you can easily destroy their doctrines before their very eyes. They are usually scared of people who drill them with heavy questions that prove the absurdity of their doctrines. And their own Publication is their enemy.
TenQ: It is Holy to do Taqqiya in the name of Allah for the propagation of Islam.
Allah is the best of the creators, yet they lie that Allah is the ONLY Creator!
Allah is not comparable to anyone or anything, yet Allah compared himself to Baal. He compared himself to humans who need to have sex to have children. Mohammed even compared Allah to the Da'jjal.
Allah is Indescribable, YET their own books say he has TWO Right Hands, A shin, looks like a young man with black curly hairs in green Dress.
They want their people to go with the SIMPLIFIED Islamic narratives stripped of all that could make Islam truly stupid
I'm still at a loss to know why anyone would serve a god who regards you a holy man for lying for him. I can't even imagine how my dad remained a Muslim for 30yrs before he met Jesus. Islam is just too off the track. I don't know why its adherents hold on to it with so much temerity. It bafles me so much.
Courz: Do you see the way that Mad Max replied you telling you to ignore my Lies? He actually called the doctrine a Lie. He said that because he is ashamed of his doctrines. He knows that what Watchtower teaches him is Bullshit. So he told you that I misunderstood their doctrine whereas If you go to their website jw. org, you will see this outrageous doctrine there. Mad Max is doing what Watchtower trains them to do, that is Lying. JWs have many outrageous doctrines that are not Christian. And in their hearts, they are ashamed of them. So, they select what they preach about outside. They will not tell you these strange doctrines. They will keep it away from you and not be honest with you so that you won't run away since Watchtower is desperate for members. They lose so many members every year. It is until you have gotten baptised into their Cult you will start to hear many strange doctrines and rules. By then, it would be too late for you. You will now be expected to follow all their Man made rules including doctrines that are not in the Bible and you can't question anything. You must be a Robot willing to obey. You can't leave because if you do, you will lose your friends and family who are in Cult as they will be ordered by Watchtower to stay away from You. It is when you don't have friends and family in the Cult that will make your leaving the Cult easier. You will be called Satan's Child. They will say you have turned your back on God for leaving and for that God will destroy you. Is that not a Cult?
If you still think I am lying about this strange doctrine, just go to their website, type Jesus Mediator in the search bar then read the articles you see there. This Cult thrives on Lies and withholding information and forces their members with fear and Manipulation to accept these lies else they will be destroyed by God at Armaggedon.
The moment he said you misunderstood the doctrines without giving his own correct explanation, I already knew it is the JW version of Muslim Taquiyya. He first said you lied, then within the same paragraph, he said you misunderstood. SMH.
Tescentre: Those who believe in the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ and that Jesus is the son of God, have already been marked “accepted candidates” of heaven. Romans 10:9-10
If you don’t believe in Jesus as the son of God, you are condemned already. John 3:18
TenQ: Why are you Muslims prone to Taqqiya? You just my Lie to defend Allah, his Messanger and his religion of Islam.
Is it UNTRUE that your Muslims say Jubril is the Rūḥ Al-Qudus?
No sir. I only have you an EXAMPLE of what YOU as Muslims BELIEVE.
Here are Your English Translation of Rūḥ Al-Qudus showing the Rūḥ Al-Qudus is the Holy Spirit
Qur'an 2:87 English Translation (Pickthall) And verily We gave unto Moses the Scripture and We caused a train of messengers to follow after him, and We gave unto Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), and We supported him with the Holy spirit . Is it ever so, that, when there cometh unto you a messenger (from Allah) with that which ye yourselves desire not, ye grow arrogant, and some ye disbelieve and some ye slay? — English Translation (Pickthall)
Qur'an 2:87 English Translation (Yusuf Ali)
We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! — English Translation (Yusuf Ali)
Evidence from Qur'an English Translation showing that Rūḥ Al-Qudus is Jubril Here you can read various translations of verse 87
MUHSIN KHAN And indeed, We gave Musa (Moses) the Book and followed him up with a succession of Messengers. And We gave ‘Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)]. Is it that whenever there came to you a Messenger with what you yourselves desired not, you grew arrogant? Some, you disbelieved and some, you killed.
DR. GHALI And indeed We already brought Mûsa (Moses) the Book, and We made to supervene the (other) Messengers even after him; and We brought Isa son of Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) the supreme evidences and aided him with the Spirit of Holiness;(The Holy Spirit, the Angle jibrîl “Gabriel” ) yet, is it not (the case that) whenever there came to you a Messenger with what (you) yourselves did not yearn to, you waxed proud, (and) so you cried lies to a group of them and (another) group you kill?
Evidence from your Tafsirs Tafsir Ibn-Katheir (Then We sent Our Messengers in succession) (23:44). Thereafter, Allah sent the last Prophet among the Children of Israel, `Isa the son of Mary, who was sent with some laws that differed with some in the Tawrah. This is why Allah also sent miracles to support `Isa. These included bringing the dead back to life, forming the shape of birds from clay and blowing into them, afterwhich they became living birds by Allah’s leave, healing the sick and foretelling the Unseen, as Ibn `Abbas stated. Allah also aided him with Ruh Al-Qudus, and that refers to Jibril. All of these signs testified to the truthfulness of `Isa and what he was sent with. Yet, the Children of Israel became more defiant and envious of him and did not want to differ with even one part of the Tawrah, as Allah said about `Isa,
Tafsir Maarif-Ul-Quran .. The Archangel Jibra'il (علیہ السلام) has often been called "Ruh al-Qudus" (the Holy Spirit) in the Noble Qur'an and the Hadith. For example, in Verse 16:102 - قُلْ نَزَّلَهُ رُوحُ الْقُدُسِ مِن رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيُثَبِّتَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَىٰ لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ ﴿102﴾ - "Say: the Holy Spirit has brought it (the Noble Qur'an) down;" or in a couplet of the poet and blessed Companion Hassan ibn Thabit ؓ ، reported in the Hadith:
Throw your Tafsirs and Qur'an under the bus will you,!?
To be a Muslim you must know how to tell lies without battng an eye.
Please what is that lie they tell in order to make Allah look bigger? Sunna lie or something.
Courz: Is it right to equate yourself with the one and only Messiah, Jesus? Is that not the definition of an Antichrist? Why is it that in your religion you are taught that Salvation can only gotten through your organisation and not through Jesus as the Messiah? Why are you taught that in order to gain Salvation you must be close to the 144,000 rather than being close to Jesus?
The guy Mohammed is a chronic deceiver who has sent many souls to hell, and most of those souls rush ignorantly into eternal damnation. His lies are so obvious but his followers are unable to deliver themselves.
Christianity Etc › Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by FxMasterz: 10:32pm On Apr 17, 2023
