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Jokanem:
Do Messianic Prophecies Prove That Jesus Was the Messiah?

Yes. While on earth, Jesus fulfilled numerous prophecies about “Messiah the Leader,” the one who would be the “Savior of the world.” (Daniel 9:​25; 1 John 4:​14)

And even after his death, Jesus continued to fulfill Messianic prophecies.​—Psalm 110:1; Acts 2:​34-​36.

What is the meaning of “Messiah”?

The Hebrew term Ma·shiʹach (Messiah) and the equivalent Greek word Khri·stos (Christ) both mean “Anointed One.” Therefore, “Jesus Christ” means “Jesus the Anointed One,” or “Jesus the Messiah.”

In Bible times, a person was often anointed by having oil poured on his head when he was appointed to a special position of authority. (Leviticus 8:​12; 1 Samuel 16:13)

Jesus was appointed by God to be the Messiah​—a position of great authority. (Acts 2:​36) However, rather than anointing Jesus with oil, God anointed him with holy spirit.​—Matthew 3:​16.

Could more than one person fulfill the Messianic prophecies?

No. Just as a fingerprint identifies just one person, the fulfillment of Bible prophecies points to just one Messiah, or Christ. However, the Bible warns that “false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.”​—Matthew 24:24.

Could the Messiah appear in the future?

No. The Bible foretold that the Messiah would be a descendant of King David of Israel. (Psalm 89:​3, 4)

However, the Jewish ancestral records going back to David have been lost, apparently having been destroyed when the Romans conquered Jerusalem in 70 C.E. a Since that time, it has not been possible for anyone to prove that he is of the royal family of David.

In contrast, though those ancestral records did exist in Jesus’ time, not even his enemies successfully challenged his claim of being a descendant of David.​—Matthew 22:41-​46.

How many Messianic prophecies are there in the Bible?

It is not possible to specify a definitive number of Messianic prophecies. For example, the method of numbering prophecies can vary even for passages that are clearly Messianic. The passage at Isaiah 53:​2-7 mentions several prophetic features regarding the Messiah. Some might count this entire passage as one prophecy, while others might view each feature as a separate prophecy.

Some Messianic prophecies fulfilled by Jesus

Prophecy followed by Fulfillment

Offspring of Abraham
Genesis 22:17, 18
Matthew 1:1

Descendant of Abraham’s son Isaac
Genesis 17:19
Matthew 1:2

Born of the Israelite tribe of Judah
Genesis 49:10
Matthew 1:​1, 3

From the royal line of King David
Isaiah 9:7
Matthew 1:1

Born of a virgin
Isaiah 7:​14
Matthew 1:​18, 22, 23

Born in Bethlehem
Micah 5:2
Matthew 2:​1, 5, 6

Called by the name Immanuel b
Isaiah 7:​14
Matthew 1:​21-​23

Humble beginning
Isaiah 53:2
Luke 2:7

Young children killed after his birth
Jeremiah 31:15
Matthew 2:​16-​18

Called out of Egypt
Hosea 11:1
Matthew 2:​13-​15

Called a Nazarene c
Isaiah 11:1
Matthew 2:​23

Preceded by a messenger
Malachi 3:1
Matthew 11:​7-​10

Anointed as Messiah in 29 C.E. d
Daniel 9:​25
Matthew 3:​13-​17

Acknowledged by God as His Son
Psalm 2:7
Acts 13:33, 34

Zealous for God’s house
Psalm 69:9
John 2:​13-​17

Proclaimer of good news
Isaiah 61:1
Luke 4:​16-​21

Public ministry in Galilee a great light
Isaiah 9:​1, 2
Matthew 4:​13-​16

A miracle worker like Moses
Deuteronomy 18:15
Acts 2:​22

Like Moses, he spoke God’s thoughts
Deuteronomy 18:18, 19
John 12:49

Cured sicknesses of many
Isaiah 53:4
Matthew 8:​16, 17

Did not draw attention to himself
Isaiah 42:2
Matthew 12:17, 19

Showed compassion for the afflicted
Isaiah 42:3
Matthew 12:​9-​20; Mark 6:​34

Revealed God’s justice
Isaiah 42:​1, 4
Matthew 12:17-​20

A Wonderful Counselor
Isaiah 9:​6, 7
John 6:​68

Declared Jehovah’s name
Psalm 22:22
John 17:6

Spoke in illustrations
Psalm 78:2
Matthew 13:34, 35

A Leader
Daniel 9:​25
Matthew 23:10

Many did not believe in him
Isaiah 53:1
John 12:37, 38

Stone of stumbling
Isaiah 8:​14, 15
Matthew 21:42-​44

Rejected by humans
Psalm 118:22, 23
Acts 4:​10, 11

Hated without cause
Psalm 69:4
John 15:24, 25

Triumphal entry into Jerusalem on a donkey
Zechariah 9:9
Matthew 21:​4-9

Praised by children
Psalm 8:2
Matthew 21:15, 16

Came in Jehovah’s name
Psalm 118:26
John 12:12, 13

Betrayed by a trusted associate
Psalm 41:9
John 13:18

Betrayed for 30 pieces of silver e
Zechariah 11:12, 13
Matthew 26:14-​16; 27:​3-​10

Friends abandoned him
Zechariah 13:7
Matthew 26:31, 56

False witnesses testified against him
Psalm 35:11
Matthew 26:59-​61

Silent before accusers
Isaiah 53:7
Matthew 27:12-​14

Spat upon
Isaiah 50:6
Matthew 26:67; 27:27, 30

Struck on the head
Micah 5:1
Mark 15:19

Flogged
Isaiah 50:6
John 19:1

Did not resist those who struck him
Isaiah 50:6
John 18:22, 23

Government leaders conspired against him
Psalm 2:2
Luke 23:10-​12

Nailed to a stake through his hands and feet
Psalm 22:16
Matthew 27:35; John 20:25

People cast lots (gambled) for his clothing
Psalm 22:18
John 19:23, 24

Counted in with sinners
Isaiah 53:12
Matthew 27:38

Reviled, insulted
Psalm 22:​7, 8
Matthew 27:39-​43

Suffered for sinners
Isaiah 53:​5, 6
1 Peter 2:​23-​25

Seemed forsaken by God
Psalm 22:1
Mark 15:34

Given vinegar and gall to drink
Psalm 69:21
Matthew 27:34

Thirsty just before death
Psalm 22:15
John 19:28, 29

Entrusted spirit to God
Psalm 31:5
Luke 23:46

Gave up his life
Isaiah 53:12
Mark 15:37

Provided the ransom to remove sin
Isaiah 53:12
Matthew 20:28

Bones not broken
Psalm 34:20
John 19:31-​33, 36

Pierced
Zechariah 12:10
John 19:33-​35, 37

Buried with the rich
Isaiah 53:9
Matthew 27:57-​60

Raised from the dead
Psalm 16:10
Acts 2:​29-​31

Betrayer replaced
Psalm 109:8
Acts 1:​15-​20

Seated at God’s right hand
Psalm 110:1
Acts 2:​34-​36

vannessa7:
Anyway I have since arrived at some derivative due to my experience of both religion, I have read the Bible through several times and I'm reading the Quran now in English version and I've been through it once and I'm reading it again, i was shocked to discover the Quran wrote about the Bible from beginning to end, it is like a commentary or verification of the Bible, however, I'm also surprised that through out the Quran God made it clear that serving others as partner to Him is not allowed, He said on the judgement day He will call Jesus and Mary mother of Jesus if they were the one that told people to worship them and they will say no and those worshipping them along with God will be thrown in hell, I now remember the 10 commandments where God state that we should not worship anything along with Him, not things in heaven, on earth or under the earth, I also thought of the Lords prayer given by Jesus to his disciples, He said we should pray to God in heaven, even all the miracle of Jesus he always attribute them to God, however the Holy Quran says any one who does not believe in any of the prophets will not make heaven including Prophet Mohammed(SAW).He said Jesus came through the word of God , be, sent to mary,

MightySparrow:
TenQ.
Many thanks for your research on the great religion, Sexlam. There is nothing in it other than sex, wine, women.
The prophet campaigned only for his penis, and greed(war) and wine. All these the adherents are going to be rewarded with in Al - Jaanah.

Antichristian and his 72 houris.
Fu*k for sexlamic eternity.
Burantashi will sell in Al - Jaanah die. ; D

advocatejare:
It is not a matter of “if”, that is why reference is provided to everything I wrote, they can’t deny it!

TenQ:
Till tomorrow, we want to read from the Qur'an how Ishmael became the sacrificial son of Abraham!
SMH!

TenQ:
That is my point o!

They can only cherry pick what they want from the Bible.

Modifire:
"Prophet (peace be upon him) became so sad as we have heard(come to know) that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and [color=#990000]every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down..."[/b]
-Sahih Bukhari 9:87:111
This clown is damn too ignorant, you just go online and download baseless rubbish to confuse yourself, well that's surely the way of the damned already just know this: A day of reckoning is near and Allah shall deal with those people who mocks themselves thinking they are mocking their creator, the day when you shall surely testify to my warnings.

TenQ:
I was even trying not to embarrass them. How can pass mark for an exam be 1%?

TenQ:
I was even trying not to embarrass them. How can pass mark for an exam be 1%?

TenQ:
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Do you think I should reduce the Muslims pass mark from 50% to 20% across-the-board?


If this questions were for Christians, I would have been millions in debt by now!

LOL!

TenQ:
Me too, I've been waiting for all of them o!

Imagine an exam where students score 0%.

What kind of teacher has been teaching them?
LOL!

Brainmytool:
Please don't mind that i had to qoute you.
Please answer these below questions:
1. With the present situation in Nigeria lets assume we have 1000 Christians. You and I know very well that about 970 of these christians are poor and living in undesirable conditions. Now about 20 are a combination of genuinely rich men and corrupt people seeking to be covered by the Umbrella church. Then the remaining 10 are our church leaders and their families who live off the the proceeds of the 970 poor congregants. Without sentiments, can you tell me what ur church in particular has done for the society other than this guide ur soul threat?
2. Most Nigerian christians are working as public servants. Now tell me 5 companies built by churches to employ just her members not other church's members in Nigeria?
3. Are Nigerian christians better than Chinese, Indians, Koreans, saudi Arabians, Kuwaiti citizens just to name but few?
4. Can you name just one thing the church has built for the society in Nigeria except bigger churches?
5. Can you prove verifiably that our God Almighty is the only one and true God making the Gods of indians, Africans, Chinese, Greeks the false ones? Remember prove verifiably. Dont tell me the bible said because these gods have their books. Dont judge with the book of a particular god making ambigous claims yet his so called people are left in poverty.

Ourtruth247:
I'm afraid of what truth you spoke? Lol.

You exposed yourself as a close-minded brainwashed person who is afraid to think outside the religious box he is residing in

I have no single benefit to derive from sharing this knowledge. Left to me, I honestly wouldn't bother and I'll just use it for my own spiritual development. But something so powerful that I can't resists forces me to share the knowledge.

You can only determine the usefulness of knowledge from its impact. The knowledge you are trying so frantically to warn people not to get tainted has not made a noticeable positive impact in your country. Nigerians are still suffering, the majority of the population is poor, and the country is still underdeveloped. You are still at the same bottom rung of the ladder that you were when you first gained the knowledge, and yet you still cling to knowledge, like people under a powerful form of mind control.

You can't even carry out free and fair elections; wallowing in sin and murdering yourselves on a daily basis like chickens. What has the truth you are afraid of losing really done for you all as a society? If you really have the truth and it's spread as widely as it is, then it should create a palpable positive impact that can be felt around the world. But the reverse is the case.

OceanRed:
Giants were present on the earth till late 17th century, they were normal like us, lived same way the peoples of that time lived they were just bigger in size and height . Around 1900's somewhere in turkey, ancient city of giants was discovered ,not giants of bibilical but recent ones, their burial grounds was also discovered, the remains were up to a thousand years old. The huge skeletons were later destroyed . just curious as to why the procreation in recent centuries stopped all of a sudden.

Ourtruth247:
How deep your brainwashing is that you are terrified of the truth. Sad, very sad.

The beings in control of our world might be evil and wicked, but they are very smart. And your reaction to any trappings of the truth is a confirmation of how effectively they've locked the human soul is a continuous loop of ignorance, so much so that they reject any indication of the truth even before hearing it.

OceanRed:
You are right, but i still wonder what caused their sudden disappearance.

Officialgarri:
I do not want to contribute to some of the things you mentioned as I may not have enough knowledge of history and astronomy as much as you do

However, I'll raise an objection on the rubric of ancient technology and their supposed impossibilities to attain accuracy.

Humans from existence have always been a super curious animal. We always want to know what's on the other side. Hence, Astronomy, Science and Technology.

That our elementary books told us about primitive humans who tilled the soil doesn't mean humans that existed thousands of years weren't more scientifically and technologically inclined than "modern" humans. They had astronomy!

They understood science better. They are the foundation of science of today. Everything that's built today and that will be built in the future will always be based on their own inventions
Remember the saying; "there's nothing new under the sun"

The difference between ancient technology and modern technology is "how work is done" but in any way, "work must be done" !


It may bother us how it's almost impossible to build magnificent structures like the Pyramid of Egypt e.t.c , have straight straight edges on stones like that of puma panku without laser technology .....and make glass blocks like the crystal palace —without modern technology!
NO! I DISAGREE .

These ancient humans built Technology with the science they invented, but their technology was crude and hectic and required ample laborers.

There were large numbers of laborers and slaves.
There were large numbers of skilled artisans. The blacksmith, the woodworkers, the masons.
Then there were animals used for transportation in their droves.

They were so crude and understood the basics of science and technology, and they would achieve it in the hardest and harshest way they could.

That's how the made those structures but the tower of Babel in the Hebrew Bible fell !

The human work force in the 1900s to that of the 2000s and that's basically because of advancing technology.
In maybe 100 years to come, only 1 human will be enough to build a mansion using technology.
It doesn't mean it couldn't have been possible that the buildings today couldn't have been achieved using 300 artisans?

Ourtruth247:
Actually the Sumerian civilization predated the Jewish civilization by over 1000 years, so it's more likely that the Sumerian version of creation is closer to the original one, and the Jewish creation story is more diluted.

Ourtruth247:
The Sphinx

The sphinx is an interesting structure, and for lots of reasons. It sits in direct contradiction to the lies that we have been told about our current history.

We are told that the Sphinx is just 4500 years old. But the base of the sphinx shows signs of precipitation induced weathering. Such weathering can only be caused by erosion which occured as a result of about a thousand years of rainfall

The last time rainfall of that magnitude fell on Egypt was during the younger dryas period, which is about 12000 years ago. What this means is that the Sphinx is at least 12000 years old.

The earliest human civilizations we know of is the Mesopotamia civilization, dated to about 5000 - 6000 years old.

If the Sphinx is over 12000 years old, it means that there have been civilizations on earth advanced enough to build something of that magnitude pre 12000 years ago.

Ourtruth247:
The Sumerian story

The Sumerian story is one of the oldest stories about creation. It is called the Eridu Genesis and was discovered on a single fragmented tablet by a historian.

What a lot of Christians don't know is that a lot of the creation story in the bible derives from the Eridu Genesis as well as the Epic of Gilgamesh which is another old story, passed down and adopted by different cultures.

I don't want to dwell on the particulars of the stories, as they have obviously been diluted, and no one actually knows exactly when the original story was told, so I will focus of general theme of the story and the drawings depicted by the Sumerians.

noble2faith:
Both of them are stupid!

The boy, for dragging someone old enough to be his father.

The man, for stooping so low to hit back. He could have ignored the untrained, uncouth, and morally bankrupt boy!

LegalWolf:
Lol!



Please what’s your source for the underlined?



It looks quite trifling, but I must praise you for admitting your error. This is something the potential thief TenQ will never do. He would rather die than admit his error. This is however the first step. You implied Samaritans have cease to exist, which is false and I’ll be grateful if you also admit that.

That said, please what is your source for the underlined ? This is the type of beer parlor gist the fraudulent potential thief engage in that I don’t take him seriously.

Is this base on cruise or you’re interested in serious discussion?



I have a number of objections to what you’ve just said. But let me highlight them:

1. You’re the one claiming Islam got it wrong not me. So the burden is on you to do the proving ?

2. Your version of Samaritans history is premised on the OT. I’ve asked you why we should believe the OT version over theirs. To this, you’ve strayed like the stray advocatejare !

3. How on earth would I say Jews have their first history written by Josephus? By my statement, I was only saying that there is no extant history of the origin of the Jews outside Josephus texts. Was it not in the context of Samaritan origin we were discussing?

4. You’re showing carbon dated copy of the Torah just confirms nothing. Is carbon dating the only criterion critical scholars use to know the age of of a text? What about Samaritan’s Torah? Have you researched on it? Please broaden your knowledge!

5. Lastly, whatsoever you think is grossly immaterial and does not change the fact on ground.

You’ve only shown what we know - that you know nothing and not worthy of my time. My apologies if that sounds offensive. Let me enjoy some series !

LegalWolf:
I think I’ve seen the image clearly now. Perhaps, it took a while to load on my browser. Anyways, what point does that prove?

Cc: potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
Lol! I just keep laughing. You’re ignorant, adamant, and uncritical. You see why I avoid xters like you?


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2 Kings 17:29

Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt. King James Version

You can check other translations for your attention.



Lol. It’s irrelevant which Torah I believe. And it’s even your hypocrisy for me - you believe the Jewish version simply because you’re a Christian and the pseudonymous writers of your Bible said so. But deny a people’s version of their own history. Lol!

Anyways, it has never been fruitful discussing with any of you. What was I expecting?

Cc: potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
Lol! I just keep laughing. You’re ignorant, adamant, and uncritical. You see why I avoid xters like you?


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2 Kings 17:29

Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt. King James Version

You can check other translations for your attention.



Lol. It’s irrelevant which Torah I believe. And it’s even your hypocrisy for me - you believe the Jewish version simply because you’re a Christian and the pseudonymous writers of your Bible said so. But deny a people’s version of their own history. Lol!

Anyways, it has never been fruitful discussing with any of you. What was I expecting?

Cc: potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
On G! It is!

So what is your source for this? Do not tell me it is the OT abeg! LOL!

I initially thought this was a mistake BUT it appears this barefaced lie. Samaritan was mentioned in the book of Kings. Was that 'about the time of Jesus'? On your text, go and check the Samaritan Torah. That always return back to my question - WHY should we take the Jewish Torah over the Samaritan one as correct?

LegalWolf:
Lol! You’re just a better version of TenQ - obstinately adamant in your refusal to either construct a logical argument or defend a position. I think we must agree on two things:

a. You absolutely made incorrect statements in respect of Samaritans history; and

b. You’ve returned us back to ground zero!



Yes, anyone can put a blog AND SO anyone can put up a Biblical text. And it is false that samaritan version does not have a source! It does - check the blog well!

Again, like I said, I would have done you the favour of posting research articles. But you cannot even do one second research on the topic before making outlandish claims! Really?



Hahahaha, this goes back to the point I’ve asked earlier. You’re referencing the Bible on Samaritans as an authoritative source. WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THE BIBLICAL/JEWISH VERSION OF YHEIR HISTORY OVER THEIR OWN



Lol! Speculation is your forte. But on a logical note, let me ask you this question. You agree the Samaritans have their own Torah, right? And they claim it is the correct version (and Jewish one is false)?

What plausible explanation would they have to the authenticity of their own Torah other than it is directly received from Moses? Logically, it is impossible for them to argue Jewish Torah is correct if if Samaritans accept that the Jewish Torah is older than theirs . Their book either has to be contemporaneous or older than the Jewish Torah.



This is the problem - every single conversation with you folks end up in conjectures, what ifs, make beliefs etc. You folks penchant for dogmatic and fanatical apologetics is mind boggling! And that’s why I prefer cruising with you all then even taking my time.

Do you know disappointed I would have been if I’d taken my time to get research articles making reference to the Samaritans version of their history and you’re coming up with this utter gibberish. Thank God I trusted my guts!

Everything you’ve said assumes the Bible is correct. Please answer my question in highlights!



Lol, it is even your audacity for me! So what makes the Jewish biblical “logical … and stand the rest of historical scrutiny”? Tell us and please don’t stray away like the stray advocatejare

Cc: Potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
TenQ and I diverge on a very fundamental level, however we converge (albeit strangely) one point - faith should not be blind. It must proceed from reason. And this begs question why I do not waste my time discussing with you folks. Let me break your statement down!



This is false. Again, just a simple google search would have saved you of this embarrassment. Just to hint you: the Samaritans have their own Torah, which they claim was the original one given to Moses. This Torah is written in Samarian script which is different from Hebrew. I can go and on to keep discussing the history of the Samaritans in their own words but you cannot even undertake a simple google search but just come here to make wild claims.

Links: (I hope I do not get banned) Take a look at this blogs (emphasis on the Samaritan version of their own history)

a. https://segulamag.com/en/articles/who-are-you-samaritans/

b. In fact, let me even stop here.... I can't spoon feed you folks.



This is false again. Like everything you said. First of, according to them, they were there during exodus and claim to be direct descendants of children of Jacob. And even the second statement is untrue. To this day, Samaritans exists in Israel around Mount Geriziml! So why make baseless comment



LOL, I should post link of samaritan history? I speak English, Fulfude and Yoruba (with a slight Hausa and Arabic). So how on earth am I to get the links of Samaritan history by Samaritans where it could be written in Samaritan language? Anyways, I have shown you a source (and I could go ahead if I so wish BUT which I won't do) to pull out research articles establishing that Samaritans predate Moses. And I think I hang my pen here!

cc: Potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
I asked you a couple of questions which ultimately unraveled your position. To these questions you’re mute and I do not have an answer to this day. Just to recap:

1. Your understanding of “Samaritan” history wholly follows from the OT, right?

2. What about the history of the samaritans according to their own tradition ? Do you know it substantially differs from what is told in the OT as you have it?

Would have posted link, but the last time I did, I got banned. Could you check up on no 2 and get back to me? Let’s have the discussion from there!

Cc: potential thief TenQ

TenQ:
LegalWolf won't answer you