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Janosky:
You mean ALL your post about Noah's flood you NEVER referenced any portion of scriptures in your post?

Awon child of God PROVEN fruit -dishonest.

You are very dishonest, FxMasterz DECEIVING HIMSELF

Your blackmail does not amount to anything. When Satan suffers defeat, he uses the same crude means to make himself happy. I'll not be surprised if you're copying his ways.

Did I discuss any portion of the Books of Acts with you before you started referencing that chapter in Acts as our subject of discourse?

If I referenced any scripture while discussing babies with you as a person, the most righteous thing to do is to make a reference to that post.

Again, you need to give your life to Christ. Your life will change when you meet Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't want your Jesus i'm OK being one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

That's only because that's how far you can currently see. The product never knows that other compartments exist until its taken there. He always thinks his current compartment is the best, and infact the final destination. You felt that way while you were still a Muslim. You're feeling same way now as a JW. When you meet Jesus, you'll know the difference. It's not a matter of what you want. It's the manufacturer that decides.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Go fellowshipping with thy brethren i'm with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

You're still on a journey. A glorious product undergoing a factory process. When the manufacturer is done with the current process, He'll move you to the next compartment. He'll move you from compartments to compartments until you become a finished product ready to bring Glory and honour to the manufacturer. You'll have a different story to tell on the day you meet Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the one and only group practicing pure worship.

And you?

I am a servant of Christ. A member of His body serving the Lord in hope of His coming and the glorious resurrection of the saints.

MaxInDHouse:
So there's no need asking me questions since you're dropped your opinion about the topic of the thread.
Thanks for your time!

Lol.

I never asked you any question. Even the question I asked about the doctor and his patient was a question poised as an answer to your heretic assertion.

Anyway, I think I had a really good time trying to explain the scriptures here. Thanks for asking me the questions. Thanks also for your time.

MaxInDHouse:
So the man agreed that Jesus is a GOOD teacher but wanted to stick to what he knew as righteousness before meeting Jesus shey?

Well that's exactly what you supposed to do!

If you feel you're OK with what you know there's no need worrying yourself over what JWs are teaching themselves just go and worship with your fellow believers.

That's what happened there, the man wasn't ready to unlearn yet he came asking Jesus questions just as you're doing right now, whereas Jesus was teaching those who are ready to OBEY whatever protrudes out of his mouth.

So if you disagree with our teaching go and worship with those who agree with you!

Man, what you've written up there is false. You're not just being sincere with yourself.

I never agreed you're a good teacher, infact, you and your governing body are the opposite. Also, I never came here asking you questions.
I only came here to give my opinion about the topic of this thread. I didn't even mention you. You were the one who mentioned me and have asked me series of questions ever since. I think the first question I ever asked you is in my last post: 'Did the doctor reject the patient or the patient rejected the doctor?'

This response of yours to that question is an escapist response. The matter of the rich man wasn't about whether we both agree on doctrinal issues or not, though that context could also be worked into that rich man episode but for God's sake, that's not the context we're discussing.

This current discussion is premised on your assertion that Jesus rejected the rich man. And I by the help of God have been able to fully establish that the reverse is the case.

So, you want to escape from your heretic assertion by saying 'Leave us alone. Let's do what we're doing while you do yours.'

Do you know that, that has always been the response of darkness whenever it is exposed to intense light? 'Leave us alone. Let us be.'

Mark 1:22-28 NKJV
And they were astonished at His teaching, for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes. Now there was a man in their synagogue with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth?"

I admoinish you to earnestly consider your ways. I've read some of your posts where you claimed you were converted from Islam. Jesus really loves you but you're not yet where He wants you to be.

MaxInDHouse:
This man walked away in sadness because Jesus asked him to join his disciples and since he refused Jesus said it will be impossible for this man to enter God's Kingdom because the man chose to remain in his old beliefs instead of becoming one of Jesus' followers.

Do you think Jesus accepted the man the way he is or insisted the man must join his disciples?

This is the narration of that scripture. Let's look at it more closely:

"22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

23 When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. 24 Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! 25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

26 Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Jesus has heard from the man how he had been an obedient worshiper of God and became more interested in the man. He could diagnose the condition of his soul, so He told him 'You still lack one thing.'

Jesus knew that though the man actually loved God, he still loved his wealth more than God. So Jesus gave him a condition he must fufill to fill that loophole. The man rejected the condition. He couldn't sacrifice his wealth for God. He went away sad because he couldn't bring himself to love God more than his wealth.

Jesus is the doctor of our soul. We all are His patients. He knows where we've been wounded. He has the cure for every diagnosis. The doctor made a prescription to the patient. The patient rejected the prescription. Now, tell me, did the doctor reject the patient or the patient rejected the doctor?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus rejected the man who has been obedient to God's laws all his life simply because the man refused to accept what Jesus told him!

Luke 18:18-23

Please explain what happened there!

This question is out of context but I'll still answer you. When I said Jesus didn't reject anyone, it's in the context of looking condescendingly on others as though He's the only one who knows God. To this effect, Jesus has a parable of two people who went into the synagogue to pray. One saw himself as being righteous than the other. He prayed saying, 'God, you know I'm not like that sinner over there.... The other one couldn't even look up to heaven but simply said 'Have mercy on me a sinner.' Jesus said the one who cried for mercy went home justified than the one who was boasting about his good works. That's exactly what you guys do. The end will tell.

Regarding your question about Luke 18:18-23. Jesus never rejected the man. Infact, Jesus wanted the man and told him to take some bold steps to come follow Him. The man decided not to follow Jesus because he loved his material wealth. It was the man who rejected Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Please try to compose yourself before you further engage me otherwise you will hate yourself after finding out how stupid you've turned out to be with your comments.

Did Jesus say he alone is the key to the knowledge of God? John 14:6
Did God direct everyone to Jesus for divine knowledge? Matthew 17:5

Meanwhile remember the topic of discussion "All babies are God's enemies"
You can reboot before coming back to me it's no crime!

When reading, always read with understanding. Remove the lens of JW and read with clarity of mind.

The focus of what I said above is not to say Jesus didn't have Exclusive knowledge of God. It's not to say He didn't know more and above everyone else but though He had all these attributes, He never looked condescendingly on anybody. He never rejected anyone. This is quiet unlike your group who didn't have what Jesus had or know what Jesus knew but is claiming exclusive knowledge that's satanically spiced. The Bible hasn't changed since it has been written, yet your group that claims exclusive knowledge has ever changing doctrines and strange revelations.

MaxInDHouse:
What will happen to none Christians that are nice people but born in different religions?

I'm just noticing this question now. It must have been buried deep in my mentions.

To answer your question, nice people can be categorised according to the age the lived in - Pre Jesus age and post Jesus age. Then you talk about those who lived after Jesus came but neve had the opportunity to hear the gospel.

Now, note that the only reason why God would cast people to hell is because they rejected His salvation. Someone who never had the opportunity to hear about that salvation let alone rejecting it would not be judged on that basis. Rather he would be judged on the basis of his own personal actions by the law of God written in his heart.

John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (Emphasis Mine).

At the bolded, we would understand that God would cast people to hell only for rejecting the provision of salvation He made for their souls. Someone who never heard of such provision cannot be judged under the same condition. Nice people who heard about Jesus but chose to reject the salvation of God are deemed to be walking inrebellion against God, and such act of rebellion would be judged.

No matter how fervently your 4 yr old washes a plate that was full of human faeces, you still wouldn't eat from it. You're the only one who can wash that plate to your own satisfaction. If your 4yr old rejects your offer to wash the plate, you would still reject whatever food was placed in it, no matter how dainty the food may be. That's how filthy our righteousness and niceness is before God. Only His provision can make us acceptable before Him.

Now, what would God do to nice people who never heard about the salvation that Jesus brought. The Bible has an answer.
All such people who never heard of Jesus would be judged according to the law of God written in their hearts - that is, their conscience.

Romans 2:13-15:
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

When you read further down in Romans 2, it was established that someone who obeys the law of God written in his heart is deemed to have the circumcision of the heart and is more accepted than a Jew who only has the circumcision of the flesh but walks in unrighteousness. This rule only applies to those who never had the opportunity to accept or reject God's provision of salvation.

This is a very rudimentary question actually. Every believer who has a personal walk with God has an answer. I was expecting some more advanced question.

Nice people who reject God's salvation have added rebellion to their sins.

MaxInDHouse:
Regarding the knowledge of God Jesus said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

God Himself spoke from heaven saying:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him" Matthew 17:5

In fact God forewarned the Israelites about this prophet saying:

"Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:19

Jehovah's Witnesses will never argue with you regarding the knowledge of anything else but as for knowledge of our God if you don't believe what we're telling you go and worship yours only JWs have accurate knowledge about our God!

What the Lord Jesus said about Himself was true. And infact He actually had knowledge above all else but can you point me to anywhere in scripture where Jesus claimed He's the only one who has knowledge and that all others are not of God? Those scriptures you're quoting are not within this context.

Janosky:
You are finding errors in Acts 15:7-17 & other portions of scriptures posted on this thread,Oga continue ooooo!

Awon Christ sheeples arguing against the holy scriptures.

You and I have not discussed any scripture. Yeah, we discussed Noah's flood in relation to babies. We didn't discuss any scripture per say.

In a bid to derail the topic, you still smuggled in a lie. Do you see the fruits you bear? Can you rightly call yourself a child of God?

Janosky:
I said:
Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

You are still making the same insults I referenced already, which you admitted you are guilty of...
"show yourself to be of your father the devil"

Oga, you are not interested in honesty nor in the holy scriptures especially when it burst your bubbles.

When you tell someone the errors of his ways and point him or her to the source of such errors, you're helping the person, not insulting Him. Jesus did the same for the Pharisees.

Since you consider yourself a child of God, you should stop deceiving yourself and see whose fruits you bear. The statement is not to insult you but rather to make you consider your own fruits and know whose son you are. You really need to become a child of God.

Janosky:
Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

When & how did post of scriptures saying exactly what you confirmed in your Bible is ungodly to your heart?

And in your self Righteousness you continue making FALSE accusations.

Haba !

This is another deceptive post. I never referred to any reference you made to the Bible as ungodly. The ungodliness of your post was in the I'll-manered response. By the fruits you bear even now, trying to use deception to cover up a flaw, you still show yourself to be of your father the devil.

[quote author=Janosky post=122604815][/quote]That's deceptive of you.

I think you should read my last mention again. I've modified it because I made a mistake putting my response in the middle of your post.

Janosky:
"I was already expecting you to act exactly like your father the devil and you never failed to disapoint"

Oga, did you make that post too?

Oga,Continue LYING

NM

I made that post as a response to show whose fruits you bear. It was the response to the ungodly post that bore the hallmarks of your faith.

And even if I've first hurled insults at you, do you mean your good works of faith are only meant for people who are nice to you? Can't you see you're deceiving yourself?

You're referencing a post that was made as a response to your ungodly post as though it was that post that triggered your godless response. Can't you see you're deliberately trading in deceit?

Janosky:
Whom else did Jesus send his listeners to gain knowledge and salvation? John 6:14,is it.

Oga,@John 5:37, Jesus is not backing your claim.
Bitter truth,I must say.



That man is a follower of Christ unknown to the disciples.
The holy scriptures did not say where or when Jesus Christ converted him.


John 15:15, Jesus Christ claim exclusive knowledge of God, which he passed on to us, John 7:16.
1 Corinthians 13:9 our knowledge can not be perfect.
Paul's knowledge of God wasn't perfect.
However,
"Jehovah's witnesses," that is the name Jehovah calls His chosen servants, Isaiah 43:10.
2 Chronicles 7:14," the people called by my name", says Jehovah God.

"I have come in my Father's name", says Jesus Christ, Jehovah's chosen servant. Acts 3:13 & John 5:43.
Acts 15:7-17, The apostles & Gentiles were bearing God's name too.

Anybody can choose any other name to call himself.
Nah my heavenly Papa name I go dey bear as HIM bona fide servant.
No apologies.

Ability to quote scriptures can only give you head knowledge. Head knowledge are mere letters. The letters kill. It's the Spirit that gives life (2Cor. 3:6, John 6:63). Until you give your life to Christ, no matter how much you can quote scriptures, you're none of His.

Courz:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😀😀😀

Their Governing body is their Mediator therefore they are their road to Salvation. 😀

Lol.

Janosky:
John 6:14.
The WAY of Christ is NOT 3 deities worship in business centers of Pastorpreneurs..
Not Buddhism, Not Judaism.
Not Eck. Not head slamming.
Not New Age Movement.

Oga , CONTINUE YOUR TANTRUMS claiming "devil is their master".

Courz IBERIBEIST is foaming in his mouth with "Ewu Gambia". Continue praising the IBERIBEIST.
Oga, what is good for the goose is best for the gander.

I do not need your opinion. Your post is irrelevant to me because:

1. I do not worship 3 deities. I suppose that's the lie your organization sold to you.

2. The fruits you bear which I.have seen from a previous post of yours tells me you're not qualified to discuss matters relating to an extremely holy God.

You first need to give your life to Christ, then afterwards, we can discuss the Bible.

Courz:
Gbam. Jesus says anyone, regardless of denomination. The disciples wanted to criticise the Man that wasn't part of them yet he was casting out demons in Jesus name. But Watchtower brainwashed JWs to believe that anyone who is not with them is against God and will be destroyed at Armaggedon. You can see the contrast between Jesus and Watchtower. That's how you know they are not followers of Christ.

It's just too obvious.

Courz:
Let me tell you something. I watched a Testimony coming from a Warlock who was very heavy into Witchcraft in the US. Do you know what this Man said? He said He attacks people Spiritually and the most vulnerable people he has attacked are Atheists, Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses. No Joke! This is real. He said these groups are very easy to attack. Do you know what that means? It means JWs have no Spiritual protection. It also means JWs are worshipping and calling on the name of the wrong person. Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master, you dey hear? This is why Stephen Let told you all that you JWS are Enemies of God. Give your life to Christ, Mumu Janosky!

No, I think JWs have a protection. The people whose words the uphold to be of higher authority than that of the Lord Jesus. The governing councils have their backs.

Janosky:

In your fx DELUSION it is not insult to say to another
"the devil is their master"

FX HYPOCRITE

When I said that, I only described a situation and made that comment as a pointer. Did I make any reference to any specific person, people or organization? Did that truth hit you even though you were not named?

MaxInDHouse:
Regarding the highlighted a first century young Jew said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

Perhaps his (true) disciples will have the same mindset! John 17:22

Jesus Christ never claimed exclusive knowledge of God. He never claimed to know better than anyone. Rather, this was what He told His critics:

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." John 5:37.

And when His disciples came to report someone to Him who was casting out devils and working miracles, this was what Jesus said:

“Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

I love the comment made on this verse in the image attached below.

Church history has shown us that most times, those who claim exclusive knowledge of God are deceivers. Agents of darkness.

Courz:
Gbam! So, you know their Tactics. Boast about themselves then belittle other religions. I only know Satan to have this Mentality. The way they boast is enough to be a Red Flag. If you are Good or Honest, you don't have to shout about it. The moment you do, you have shown yourself to be an empty vessel. If you notice Mad MaxInDHouse is always boasting about they being a Better performing group. JWs are always boasting about themselves with nothing to show for it. If they are so good as he claims, why are they losing so many members and why are there Victims of the Cult Protesting against it? Why are there Victims of Child Sexual Abuse taking them to court?Why are some governments investigating them? Why did some countries Ban them? Why are they selling Kingdom halls? Why is there so much exposure about the Cult that they are struggling to hide if their hands are clean? Why are they even threatening JWs to stay away from negative News reports about them without addressing and proving that these reports are False? If your hands are clean and someone is accusing you of something, what wil you do? Won't you try to give evidence to prove that the accusations are False? Instead, you are threatening people not to research the Cult because you know you are Filthy.

You already hit the nail in the head.

There's nothing more you need to say about them. One of them called Janosky has just replied me with heavy insults. I'm sure that's the work of faith MaxinDHouse was talking about. Janosky has proven himself as one of the best people doing good works as claimed by max.

Janosky:
Mumu 3 deities worshipper.

Jesus Christ did so & we who worship his God &Father MUST do the same, John 9:4..
Matthew 5:20, your Righteousness MUST exceed that of Pharisees.
John 6:14, Jesus Christ repeated it.
Our God nah him God, John 9:4 & John 20:17.

Nah him WAY better pass other Ways.
Oga, receive SENSE

You have already shown me the fruits you bear by this post of yours. I was already expecting you to act exactly like your father the devil and you never failed to disapoint. You were never a child of God. I advise you to give your life to Christ. He'll set you free from the bondage of religion.

Courz:
Exactly. If you read Mad MaxInDHouse's reply to me above, you will see a good example of Double Speak. He argued that All Babies are enemies of God including those of JWs but at the same time he claims Babies of JWs will be spared from Destruction. Typical example of Confusion. The guy is confused.

The moment any organizations, group or individuals claim an exclusive knowledge of God while denegrating all others, you already know that the devil is their master, and lies would be their stock in trade.

Courz:
Well, JW is a very secretive religion and they select doctrines to preach. The rest of the unpalatable doctrines will be revealed to you after you get baptised. So, a lot of people are not aware of how it works in that Cult. People are only able to see what JWs present to them.

That's how all cults operate. You never know the hard truths until you're fully initiated. At that time it would be very difficult to pull out.

Courz:
Ask them. They will claim they follow Christ. Followers of Christ by Mouth only. But their doctrines show the opposite. In case you are not aware, Their Cult does what we call Double Speak,that is, Make two contradicting statements at the same time. If you have conversed with the JWs in this forum, you will notice it in the way they speak. An example of of Double Speak is : JWs will tell you they don't have Leaders. They only have people taking the Lead. Whereas, the Governing body, Elders, Circuit Overseers and some other Watchtower Officials are their Leaders. They have leaders that they are required to Obey even if what they say makes no sense.

Guy, JWs are under serious Spiritual Manipulation. There is a dark cloud covering them, covering their eyes so that they can not read the Bible without the Lens of Watchtower. It is Spiritual because Watchtower dabbles in Spiritism to get their doctrines and keep JWs perpetually blind.

This is really deep. You've really exposed them.

Jackanda1:
Please i do not welcome comments from atheist on this thread. Thanks

In 2011/2012 after i had given my life to christ. A young man in my church asked me if i had recieved the infilling of the holyspirit, i said no. He promised to pray for me.

A certain day, i think on a saturday, after church service, he laid hands on me in the name of Jesus and prayed in tongues.

The next thing that happened is that i got up from the hard floor of the church. I didn't feel any pain nor did i remember falling. I didn't speak in tongues either. But i had a lot of faith and was happy and believed i had been filled with the holyspirit.

I understand that you are aquinted with the spirit once you're born again, but there is an infilling or baptism of the spirit different from the born again experience.(Acts8:15-17)

So, did i recieve the infilling of the spirit at that time? Is it possible to be filled/baptised with the holyspirit without recieving any of his gifts like speaking in tongues?

When you receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, you'll speak in tongues as evidence of the infilling.

All instances of the Holy Spirit Baptism in the Bible and outside the Bible always follow this pattern.

You were filled with faith and joy during the prayers. These are the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit respectively but do not in anyway confirm the infilling.

Keep seeking His face in this direction. You can receive the gift of the Holy Spirit without anyone laying hands on you. You can simply ask and it shall be given to you.

Courz:
At the bolded, in JW, The words of Their Freemason Governing body is Law and supercedes the words of God and Jesus. You should have noticed it by now. In JW, you are threatened with Fear and Manipulation when you do not accept the words of their Freemason Governing body else you will be called an Apostate, you are not allowed to question or correct their leaders, even if what they say is the direct opposite to what Jesus and God say. You have asked them the bolded. Watch them twist and turn and use English to try to manipulate you. They won't give you a straight forward answer showing that They disregard the words of Jesus and God. Look at the example of their Teaching of Jesus being Mediator for only the 144,000. They know that is not a Biblical Teaching but because they don't want to be called Apostates, they will agree with such demonic teaching.

Are you not aware that Their Governing body have replaced Jesus? In their Bible, they added the phrase Substitutes for Christ which you will never find in any other Bible Translation. They now teach that the life giving power that Jesus possesses which is why Jesus is the only one who will resurrect the dead, They teach that their Anointed which includes the Governing body will have the same power to resurrect the dead. They also teach that the Governing body is the Voice of Jesus because submitting to them means Submitting to Christ. Therefore Governing body = Christ. They also teach that since Jesus isn't their mediator, by being close and obedient to the 144,000, they will get Salvation. They don't direct the means of Salvation to Christ only as a Christian should. The means to get Life is through their Anointed which includes their Governing body. I am mentioning these examples of their doctrines to let you know that their Organisation has replaced Jesus. Mad Max has once claimed that Jesus lied to Thomas when he said he should touch him, his hands with the nail marks to feel him and convince him that he is in physical form and not in Spirit form when he appeared to him. What Does that tell you? JWs will rather accept errors upon errors instead of accepting the words of Jesus and God. That's how dangerous their Brainwashing is. The JW Cult is a big example of people talked about in the Bible where it says people will no longer listen to sound teachings but will rather listen to doctrines from demons. The JWs love their ears to be tickled and love to be told what they want to hear. They have been programmed that way by Watchtower. The Brainwashing is designed such that you will be programmed psychologically to listen to Only the Governing body by equating themselves to God and Jesus, A Perfect description of an Antichrist.

This is really disturbing. How then could they confidently call themselves the followers of Christ?

Janosky:
Are you not aware that God made similar pronouncements to Noah and Adam in Genesis chapters 2 &9?
Those pronouncements are for eternity.

Also,
"My righteous one will live by reason of faith".
,Noah has been adjudged faithful to receive everlasting life. His faith justified him.
Hebrews 11:7 & Hebrews 10:38-39,2 Peter 3:13 confirmed that.

The questions are relevant.
Or are you saying that that God called animals to account for their deeds in Eden? Or at any time?


Oga, please direct your question to God Almighty the Potter.
Ask him if animals are his enemies?
Psalm 58:3 , Psalms 51:5, I Stop were the holy scriptures stop.

The point is that you're making babies enemies of God because they were also destroyed in the flood. Meanwhile, animals were also destroyed.

What I'm trying to let you know is that those whom God destroyed during the flood were those who didn't enter the ark. God instructed Noah to inform all men to enter the ark. God didn't differentiate between His friends and His enemies while giving that instruction. The call into the ark was for all men. Those who entered the ark were not necessarily God's friends. They were saved only because they entered the ark. The aftermath of the flood would tell you how Noah became extremely drunk and how his son Ham reduced him to an object of mockery. Were all those who entered the ark really God's friends?

Jesus already said in Mathew 19:14 that all little children belong to the Kingdom of God. Is your word or the word of your leader to be taken as supreme above the Words of Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
Has God ever mentioned any animal as His friend?
Well He never did because they lived on instinct so they're not created in His image like humans and they have no part in his redemption plan. In fact after destroying those animals and everything on dry land God said in His heart:

“Never again will I curse the ground on man’s account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up; and never again will I strike down every living thing as I have done" Genesis 8:21

So they weren't part of His enemies to be destroyed but humans with all their babies will be destroyed as God's enemies if they aren't prepared to learn from past experience! Luke 17:26-27

In short, the words of your leaders are more important than the word of God. We should disregard the Words of Jesus and take your leaders' as supreme above His. Isn't it?

Mathew 19:14
Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”