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Kobojunkie:
1. Pre-salvation? I told of how I came to experience the first salvation-- born again --- in Jesus Christ and what I experienced beginning then.

So, again, You that you pretend to be in the position to discuss the bible I ask then what proof is it that you have that you are in fact born-again?
▪︎ And please do not mention the Holy Spirit because Jesus Christ never suggested that He, the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth is avaliable to those who are merely born-again.
▪︎ Also, do not mention again this claim of a new interest in scripture because, again, Jesus Christ never mentioned such a possibility to those who are born-again as it is instead up to each man where his focus will life before and after being born-again .

I told you to go and give your life to Christ. You don't know God. Since you're merely asking questions for the purpose of argument, I won't answer your questions.

Lukuluku69:
Yahweh or Yahwerey means nothing. If you want an exposition on it, I will oblige you.

The Jews have been reading the Old Testament for Centuries, you will never hear them refer to God as Yahweh or Jehovah. But the Christians Translators think they know more than the Jews the owners of the Language.

Make una dey play o

Follow this link below if you desire to learn :

https://www.nairaland.com/1151894/how-got-born-again-christians-only

Judybash93:

I've asked you to let's know how it has helped in reality! I'll wait. I can tell you how logic either it being basic out complex has helped. Please go ahead and explain to us how your so called "spiritual logic" has helped

If you want to know anything, follow this link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1151894/how-got-born-again-christians-only

Kobojunkie:
1. I did tell you the proof and even showed you where it was I told it to you. The link I provided leads directly to where I revealed it.

So, again, You that you pretend to be in the position to discuss the bible I ask then what proof is it that you have that you are in fact born-again?
▪︎ And please do not mention the Holy Spirit because Jesus Christ never suggested that He, the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth is avaliable to those who are merely born-again.
▪︎ Also, do not mention again this claim of a new interest in scripture because, again, Jesus Christ never mentioned such a possibility to those who are born-again as it is instead up to each man where his focus will life before and after being born-again .

You narrated a supposed pre-salvation experience. That's not a proof of being saved. Your post-salvation experience contains the proof.

Kobojunkie:
1. You that you pretend to be in the position to discuss the bible I ask then what proof is it that you have that you are in fact born-again? And please do not mention the Holy Spirit because Jesus Christ never suggested that He, the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth is avaliable to those who are merely born-again.

I told you to first tell me your own proof. Do that first.

Kobojunkie:
1. That means absolutely bullsheet! What the heck is a saved soul? I am asking you for the evidence Jesus Christ said all who are born-again will have. You are busy spewing religious jargon at me. You think your religious scripts mean something in the grand scheme that is the Kingdom of God?

2. I Spot a direct lie? Jesus Christ never said a one acquires what you claim there when one becomes born again. Again, what evidence did you receive when you become born-again?

Come back here when you meet Jesus. You're not oi m any position to discuss the Bible.

Judybash93:
You know you're making stuff up when you start to say things like spiritual logic. Logic is logic.
Give me an example of where spiritual logic actually worked in reality! If you know, you know

Logic isn't logic. Logic surpasses logic.

For instance, primary school mathematical logic says 1 - 5 is Impossible. Secondary School logic says it's -4.

If you're not spiritual, I can't even discuss spiritual matters with you. That'll be too much for you to handle.

advocatejare:
You are right. Allah never claimed to be Yahweh so how come Allah’s so called prophet will be named after Yahweh? That’s the confusion of Islam because they only copied and pasted the Bible and many things from the Jews and the Christians


Cc: Lukuluku69, AntiChristian

They won't listen but we'll keep telling them the truth.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! None of what you claimed was scriptural as instead, you read straight from the script fed to you by your pastors and mogs before you who also likely never had the born-again experience themselves. I have heard that same script used many times by Churchians, all of whom are unable to state the evidence they received when they supposedly because born again.

Your claim was that somehow the Holy Spirit interacts with you when you become born again; that claim is unscriptural. You claimed the Holy Spirit is a gentle force or something, in contrast to Jesus Christ's own description of the spirit, one interacts with when born-again. So, who do we believe? You or Jesus Christ?

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The evidence of a saved soul is very glaring.

Changed Lives and a vehement hatred for sin. A new interest in fellowship and the study of the word. These things are not natural.

Kobojunkie:
1. I actually did reveal it a while back but you were quick to cast it down since it did not fit the script that your pastors and mogs had given you, making me wonder, what other evidence it is you have instead of your claim to be born-again apart from the very evidence Jesus Christ said all those who are born of spirit will have.

Go back through the conversation at the link below. https://www.nairaland.com/7560461/being-atheist-it-excuse-wicked/1#120760693

When I cast it down, did I quote any pastor? I told you the Biblical perspective of your experience.

Even the name Jesus means Yahweh saves. Yet, Mohammad lied that Jesus was a Muslim, and gullible Muslims believe him. SMH.

Kobojunkie:
1. You claim to be born-again, right? All I am asking is you reveal the evidence that was given you by Jesus Christ when that supposedly took place in your life. Why are you hesitating?

You too claim to be born-again, right? All I am asking is you too is to reveal the evidence that was given you by Jesus Christ when that supposedly took place in your life. Why are you also hesitating?

advocatejare:
They wouldn’t be ignorant if they read their Quran who gave them instructions in Surah 16:43 and 10:94

They don't read. They only recite. Recitation without understanding.

Judybash93:
Yeah! You're very right cos you really need to ignore every form of logic or reality in order to believe in such

That's talking on a very ignorant plane.

Spiritual logic is far more superior to natural logic. The spiritual is more real tham the physical. If you know you know.

advocatejare:
Lukuluku69 and AntiChristian know that Islam permits deception

They love it like that. SMH.

Very ignorant folks.

Kobojunkie:
1. Like the rest you also lack the evidence Jesus Christ revealed that everyone who is born-again must have. Why else would you hesitate to reveal the evidence you have which reveals you are indeed born-again. Interesting!

If we lack the evidence, is it hard for you to show us yours? You lack the evidence too?

Kobojunkie:
1. What evidence do you have that you are indeed born-again?

Jesus Christ is not a liar meaning it isn't possible to be born-again and not have the evidence that Jesus Christ Himself said all those who are will have.

Your message is for yourself.

CHIGIM:
but the earth is not round

What shape is it called in layman's language?

Kobojunkie:
1. I asked the question because most of the accounts I have read so far do not comply with the very teachings of Jesus Christ on the topic.

Now I ask you too, what is your evidence that you are indeed born-again?.

Almost everyone here knows you to be an heretic. You'll do well to share your evidence fiirst.

Kobojunkie:
1. Why does a simple question scare you? What evidence do you have that you are born-again? And please no tales abeg!

And why must I show you my evidence? Are you my God? Why can't you answer a simple question?

Kobojunkie:
How certain are you that you are in fact born-again?

Are you the referee who can determine whether a man is born again or not?

I'm touched by the testimonies on this thread. Anyone who has met Jesus can relate.

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever.

CHIGIM:
there is no single atom of truth in the bible

And yet it's one of the oldest books in the world still relevant today. The only book that has foretold events thousands of years before they happened. The only book that told us the earth is a circle ever before science came to know the truth. Keep deceiving yourself.

Ken4Christ:
The Bible contains God's word. Not every content of the Bible is God's word. Even the words Satan spoke are written in the Bible.

There are some places men also wrote their personal opinion. For instance, some of the things Job said during the years of his afflictions were his personal opinions.

Even Apostle said in a verse that what he wrote was his opinion and not an instruction from the Lord.

God didn't dictate the writing of the books of the Bible.

The only passage that are clear instructions from God are the prophetic books and the specific instructions he gave to some of the saints of old.

The creation story was a revelation Moses received from God.

That God rested on the seventh day does not mean he was tired like we humans get tired. Spirits don't get tired.

He just wanted to institute a worship schedule which he did to the children of Israel. That day was chosen by God for them to devote themselves to worship.

Many other contents are historical. And as men are not perfect, you don't expect perfection in their report.

If two of us go to the scene of the same event and we are asked to put down what happened, you can be sure that we will present the story differently.

There are no contradictions in the Bible.

Tell me any contradiction from the book of the prophets. Show me where two different Prophets of old said two different things on the same thing.

I think you're quoting the wrong person.

This position of yours is the same position I've made on this forum on several occasions. It looked as though you copied my words verbatim.

I'll see it as a rejoinder to the the response I gave jaephonix.

jaephoenix:
Hello everyone.
So apparently I was involved in a discourse with this good dude in a thread about the best argument for the existence of god. So during the debate, he challenged me to post the errors, lies, contradictions, miseducations etc in the bible. So I promised him I'm gon raise a thread and invite peeps to share their views and throw more lights about such gaffes
Now this isn't by any chance all of them, but the ones I can get my hands on in short notice. I'll post more gaffes as I run my rule over this book. I'll try to make them genealogical, that is from Genesis to Revelation, but sometimes I may jump the gun. Do bear with me. I may miss some, so y'all can chip in. Some may also not be errors but misjudgment on my part, so y'all can correct too.
Please lets keep this as insult-free as possible.
So here goes…
The bible is supposedly a book written or inspired by a supreme being. Obviously it has to be perfect as theists tell us.

CHAPTER 1
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

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Maynmann
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KnownUnknown
LottiOk
Workch
Seun
Jesusjnr2020
Aemmyjah
DTruthSpeaker
Elated177
Ken4Christ
FxMasterz
etc

As I promised you yesterday, I've decided to expose your lies and deceit in rendering some of these verses out of context. I'll take the first 10 verses only even though you challenged me to pick only 1.

I'm not here to engage you. Engaging Atheists is a waste of time. They're not seekers of truth. They engage you to tell themselves they're intelligent while exhibiting a high level of folly.

Before I continue, I must let you know that the Bible was written by imperfect men urged on by the Spirit of God.

God uses men to mininster to men. Men are God's channels. Even though men are imperfect, God uses their imperfections to bless others as long as they're doing all they do in honesty and sincerity.

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 established that we know in part and prophesy in part. The perfect would come later but the perfect is not yet here.

When you read the Bible as a canal man, you are reading the imperfect letters of the Word. 2 Corinthians 3:6 says those letters kill. They don't give life.

That's why the first step into the things of God is a spiritual rebirth. When you approach the Bible as a spirit being, the Holy Ghost takes you beyond the limits of imperfect letters that kill. You're ushered into the deep things of God that are not available on the surface. The Spirit of God gives you life through those imperfect channels. God still uses Imperfect men today, and their words are still called 'The Word of God."

When you hear Christians saying they're going to church to listen to the Word of God, they're going to listen to an imperfect man who preaches behind a pulpit. His words may be imperfect. It could contain errors. But he preaches with all sincerity to the best of his knowledge. God uses his imperfect knowledge to bless the hearers.

The Bible itself does not lay any claim to perfection, so this thread of yours is useless.

Now, let me start addressing your issues. The deception in your post is too obvious.

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6.

I'll be as brief as I can.
In Genesis 1:31, the context was the entire work of creation. He was satisfied to see the physical replica of his thoughts. He achieved what He had in mind. They were as exact as He had intended them to be.

In Genesis 6:6, God was not dissatisfied with His works. That's a blatant lie. Quote the verse if I'm lying. God regretted creating man. That's the verse. Man isn't God's only work. He's just a very minute part of His entire creation. He regretted creating man because man misused his freewill which God had given him. Man reinvented himself. Ecclesiastes 7:29 sums it up:

[/b]"Behold, this only have I found: that God made man perfect; but they have sought out many inventions."[/b]

Only man o. Not His entire works.

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

In the Old Testament era, God related with man physically, and at the time, physical temples were the only meeting place with God. That's the context of 2 Chronicles 7. In the new testament, after the death and resurrection of Christ, God started relating with man spiritually. Men became God's Temples. That's the context of Acts 7. The former temple was a mere shadow. The later temple is the real deal.

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

God dwells in light but to those who are blind like yourself, God dwells in darkness. They can't see God. When the veil is removed off your face, and you begin to see clearly, you'll see God. But as long as Satan's veil of darkness remains upon you, you can't see God.

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16.

God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest. If you seek Him you'll find Him.

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

First let me see where the verse says God was tired in that Genesis 2. His work was done or what else did He have to come back later to do? He rested to teach man how to rest not because He was tired Himself. He laid an example for man. Today by that example, we have resting days. We rest even when we're not tired. We have a physical rest and a spiritual rest. If man can rest even when he isn't tired, what makes you think God rested because He was tired? If i decided to rest in my house on Saturday and not go to work, does that mean I'm tired? SMH. Give me the verse that says God was tired. Anything else would be ignored.

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8.

The purpose of these verses is to show us that God cares and is absolutely interested in the affairs of men. How did He know that men were building something in Genesis 11? How did He know that Sodom was perverted in Genesis 18. How did He know all these already before saying He'll come down or go to confirm? Those verses are merely demonstrating God's concerns for man which is one of the core messages of the Bible.

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

God knows the hearts of men but He tries the hearts of men in order to prove to man that the man who was tried deserves whatever God does to him.

"By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “ That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.

God would be proved right when men or anyone judges God's actions. Even the man who is cast to hell would know for sure that he deserves hell. By the trial, everyone knows that God is casting him to hell, not just because of what God thinks about him but by the results he himself has produced.

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

God is all powerful but His power is available to man in the measure to which man is Obidient to God. In Judges 4, under the pophethhood of Deborah, an Obidient and faithly woman of God, God destroyed Sisera and his large army of iron chariots. Faith and Obidient are the two important yardsticks for measuring how much of God's power is available to man.

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

I don't need to answer this. I'm sure the book you're copying from was written by a Satanist.

You mean if God decided to punish a people, and the people repented and asks to be forgiven, God must go ahead and punish them in order to prove that He doesn't change?

God has never changed. He hates evil and goes all out to punish it after giving the evil doer ample time to repent. He then rolls out severe warnings. If the evil doer repents, He forgives and turns back the intensity of the punishment. That's how He has always been. That's how He is till today.

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

In Genesis 9:25, Noah cursing his son makes God partial? Hahahaha, wonders shall never end. In Exodus 20:5, God is partial for commanding the Jews not to worship idols? How foolish can this assertion get?

In Romans 9:11-13, God already knew what Esau was going to do and become. God knew his heart. He knew he'll not serve God. God judged him before hand. And we see that God was right in His judgement by the kind of life Esau eventually lived.

This brings me back to the verse that makes you conclude that God does not know the hearts because He tries the hearts of men. I've responded to that already. This allegation of yours further proves my position that even though God knows man's heart, people like you will accuse God of wrongdoing if God does not prove through trial that the man deserves what God says or does to him.

The Satanist book from which you're copying is a book of lies at its best. I can't find any truth in it. I've just exposed the first 10 lies. The book is merely written to mislead people like you in order to further strengthen the fetters of your captivity so that you can become surer candidates of hell.

This is a very poor attempt to discredit the Bible.

There are indeed human imperfections in the Bible but this first 10 verses of yours don't fall in that category. And I can already see that majority of the verses in this copy-paste thread are based on one tyoe of lies or the other. They are deliberate lies sordidly collated to look like truth.

I really pity your soul. God still loves you. If you still have room in your heart to see your need for a saviour, He'll welcome you with open arms.

CC:
Antichristian

jaephoenix:
Hello everyone.
So apparently I was involved in a discourse with this good dude in a thread about the best argument for the existence of god. So during the debate, he challenged me to post the errors, lies, contradictions, miseducations etc in the bible. So I promised him I'm gon raise a thread and invite peeps to share their views and throw more lights about such gaffes
Now this isn't by any chance all of them, but the ones I can get my hands on in short notice. I'll post more gaffes as I run my rule over this book. I'll try to make them genealogical, that is from Genesis to Revelation, but sometimes I may jump the gun. Do bear with me. I may miss some, so y'all can chip in. Some may also not be errors but misjudgment on my part, so y'all can correct too.
Please lets keep this as insult-free as possible.
So here goes…
The bible is supposedly a book written or inspired by a supreme being. Obviously it has to be perfect as theists tell us.

CHAPTER 1
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

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Maynmann
OLAADEGBU
KnownUnknown
LottiOk
Workch
Seun
Jesusjnr2020
Aemmyjah
DTruthSpeaker
Elated177
Ken4Christ
FxMasterz
etc

As I promised you yesterday, I've decided to expose your lies and deceit in rendering some of these verses out of context. I'll take 10 verses only even though you challenged me to pick only 1.

I'm not here to engage you. Engaging Atheists is a waste of time. They're not seekers of truth. They engage you to tell themselves they're intelligent while exhibiting a high level of folly.

Before I continue, I must let you know that the Bible was written by imperfect men urged on by the Spirit of God.

God uses men to mininster to men. Men are God's channels. Even though men are imperfect, God uses their imperfections to bless others as long as they're doing all they do in honesty and sincerity.

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 established that we know in part and prophesy in part. The perfect would come later but the perfect is not yet here.

When you read the Bible as a canal man, you are reading the imperfect letters of the Word. 2 Corinthians 3:6 says those letters kill. They don't give life.

That's why the first step into the things of God is a spiritual rebirth. When you approach the Bible as a spirit being, the Holy Ghost takes you beyond the limits of imperfect letters that kill. You're ushered into the deep things of God that are not available on the surface. The Spirit of God gives you life through those imperfect channels. God still uses Imperfect men today, and their words are still called 'The Word of God."

When you hear Christians saying they're going to church to listen to the Word of God. They're going to listen to an imperfect man who preaches behind a pulpit. His words may be imperfect. It could contains errors. But he preaches with all sincerity to the best of his knowledge. God uses his imperfect knowledge to bless the hearers.

The Bible itself does not lay any claim to perfection, so this thread of yours is useless.

Now, let me start addressing your issues. The deception in your post is too obvious.

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6.

I'll be as brief as I can.
In Genesis 1:31, the context was the entire work of creation. He was satisfied to see the physical replica of his thoughts. He achieved what He had in mind. They were as exact as He had intended them to be.

In Genesis 6:6, God was not dissatisfied with His works. That's a blatant lie. Quote the verse if I'm lying. God regretted creating man. That's the verse. Man isn't God's only work. He's just a very minute part of His entire creation. He regretted creating man because man misused his freewill which God had given him. Man reinvented himself. Ecclesiastes 7:29 sums it up:

[/b]"Behold, this only have I found: that God made man perfect; but they have sought out many inventions."[/b]

Only man o. Not His entire works.

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

In the Old Testament era, God related with man physically, and at the time, physical temples were the only meeting place with God. That's the context of 2 Chronicles 7. In the new testament, after the death and resurrection of Christ, God started relating with man spiritually. Men became God's Temples. That's the context of Acts 7. The former temple was a mere shadow. The later temple is the real deal.

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

God dwells in light but to those who are blind like yourself, God dwells in darkness. They can't see God. When the veil is removed off your face, and you begin to see clearly, you'll see God. But as long as Satan's veil of darkness remains upon you, you can't see God.

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16.

God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest. If you seek Him you'll find Him.

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

First let me see where the verse says God was tired in that Genesis 2. His work was done or what else did He have to come back later to do? He rested to teach man how to rest not because He was tired Himself. He laid an example for man. Today by that example, we have resting days. We rest even when we're not tired. We have a physical rest and a spiritual rest. If man can rest even when he isn't tired, what makes you think God rested because He was tired? If i decided to rest in my house on Saturday and not go to work, does that mean I'm tired? SMH. Give me the verse that says God was tired. Anything else would be ignored.

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8.

The purpose of these verses is to show us that God cares and is absolutely interested in the affairs of men. How did He know that men were building something in Genesis 11? How did He know that Sodom was perverted in Genesis 18. How did He know all these already before saying He'll come down or go to confirm? Those verses are merely demonstrating God's concerns for man which is one of the core messages of the Bible.

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

God knows the hearts of men but He tries the hearts of men in order to prove to man that the man who was tried deserves whatever God does to him.

"By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “ That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.

God would be proved right when men or anyone judges God's actions. Even the man who is cast to hell would know for sure that he deserves hell. By the trial, everyone knows that God is casting him to hell, not just because of what God thinks about him but by the results he himself has produced.

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

God is all powerful but His power is available to man in the measure to which man is Obidient to God. In Judges 4, under the pophethhood of Deborah, an Obidient and faithly woman of God, God destroyed Sisera and his large army of iron chariots. Faith and Obidient are the two important yardsticks for measuring how much of God's power is available to man.

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

I don't need to answer this. I'm sure the book you're copying from was written by a Satanist.

You mean if God decided to punish a people, and the people repented and asks to be forgiven, God must go ahead and punish them in order to prove that He doesn't change?

God has never changed. He hates evil and goes all out to punish it after giving the evil doer ample time to repent. He then rolls out severe warnings. If the evil doer repents, He forgives and turns back the intensity of the punishment. That's how He has always been. That's how He is till today.

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

In Genesis 9:25, Noah cursing his son makes God partial? Hahahaha, wonders shall never end. In Exodus 20:5, God is partial for commanding the Jews not to worship idols? How foolish can this assertion get?

In Romans 9:11-13, God already knew what Esau was going to do and become. God knew his heart. He knew he'll not serve God. God judged him before hand. And we see that God was right in His judgement by the kind of life Esau eventually lived.

This brings me back to the verse that makes you conclude that God does not know the hearts because He tries the hearts of men. I've responded to that already. This allegation of yours further proves my position that even though God knows man's heart, people like you will accuse God of wrongdoing if God does not prove through trial that the man deserves what God says or does to him.

The Satanist book from which you're copying is a book of lies at its best. I can't find any truth in it. I've just exposed the first 10 lies. The book is merely written to mislead people like you in order to further strengthen the fetters of your captivity so that you can become surer candidates of hell.

This is a very poor attempt to discredit the Bible.

There are indeed human imperfections in the Bible but this first 10 verses of yours don't fall in that category. They were deliberate lies sordidly collated to look like truth.

I really pity your soul.

TenQ:
You can debate Atheists on Philosophy or Logic or Science BUT it is a waste of Everything to debate Scriptures or Religion with them.

Don't give your pearls to the Pig!

I'll do as advised.

leofab:
you believed the book the Europeans have to you as the word of God but sheepishly laughs at others who believed the word of their pastor?

If their pastor claims to represent the same God as mine. I can give my voice against him if he acts against the rules.

leofab:
if I already have the spirit so why read the Bible again? Isn’t that tautology? And with over 1000 denominations in Christianity I wonder how many spirits that actually exist.

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Can't you see the deep ignorance in your questions?

The Bible is food for Spirit beings. After a spiritual rebirth, the spirit feeds to continue growing and developing.

There can be millions of denominations but there's only one Lord and one Spirit.

jaephoenix:
Dont mind those guys, especially TenQ. When atheists grill him, he'll be running away. He avoids these kinds of topics cos he'll get seriously drilled

Atheists are not worth wasting time on. They ask very foolish questions and are always trying to dribble you. They're never sincere and never straight forward.

They always engage in arguments for the sole purpose of proving some false intelligence. No more no less. They're not interested in truth.
Meanwhile, we don't consider them intelligence enough. So, it's always wise to let them be because foolish questions are always very annoying. I'm going to pick several verses that are out of context for you tomorrow. And that's all I'll do
You're not a truth seeker so I'm not interested in wasting my time with you.

jaephoenix:
You have no answers bro. Pick just one verse that is outta context. Just one

I'll shame you tomorrow.

MrBroke:
How you take know if the bible no be false?

It fulfills all its promises.