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triplechoice:
Thank you for your response, Fxmasterz. I understand why you perceive it as confusion, and many others have been misled by that same impression. However , if you had access to the same information I have about him and the group he belongs to , you would see that his numerous disguises are not sign of confusion, but the very evidence of his affiliation.

His behaviour aligns perfectly with the documented culture of groups like Amorc, which instruct members to conceal their affiliation. The use of disguises and misdirection is a feature of their practice,not a bug. The confusion he creates is a deliberate tactic to make it difficult for anyone to pin him down..

For, instance, if you accuse him of being a secret member of Amorc, he will deflect by asking why you don't accuse him of being a Christian since he also quotes and interpret the Bible

If you question his gender he will gaslight you with a line of the like, ,"So you want to look under my skirt to find out"?, an absurd and illogical response on a faceless forum designed to shame you into silence. It is like someone here claiming to own a Ferrari and living in a mansion, then accusing you of wanting to rob them when you express doubt

The duplicity which I observed in most of their members was what put me off when I was to join them long ago as a teenager. Someone is a member of Amorc, Freemasonry,, Ogboni,voodoist and still goes to church to receive holy communion. Yes, this is what they are known for.

Most of their members hide themselves effectively by pretending to be Christians, especially in a society like ours, where groups like Amorc and the Ogboni are widely regarded as satanic cults. You will often find them in orthodox churches like the catholic church, having gone through the full process of baptism and communion. Some even aspire to the position of a priest in the church. This is not a conspiracy created by me, it is a verifiable strategy to avoid stigmatization and ostracization

There was once an active member of Amorc on this board, I believe his moniker was Frairmathy, who stated that the major requirement for joining Amorc is a belief in a God. He explained that ,as an initiate, he was also a confirmed Catholic. Is that confusion?

From their perspective, it is not. It is how they are encouraged to operate.

So, Buda' is not confused. The confusion he projects is. the very tool he uses to operate here' undetected. After advertising Amorc to recruit new members and sharing their core doctrinal books, he pivots to interpreting the Bible and Quran to create doubt about his true affiliations. When confronted, he defends himself by. saying, " I also quote the Bible or Shakespeare, so. what am I?

But if you have seen his past activities, passionately promoting and defending Amorc, you are left by with no doubt about where his allegiance lies.

He can confuse others with his foolery, but not me. If he had not crossed a line in our discussion, his identity wouldn't concern me. He is not the only member of Amorc here. If my goal was to expose them all, I would be doing so constantly.

I appreciate your perspective,but the evidence I have, points decisively to deliberate intellectual dishonesty: posing as a pure atheist to mock others while being a paying member of an esoteric group that teaches a distorted version of. the very concepts he criticizes .

Use this link to visit this thread to see his performance there and come back and tell me if it is the behaviour of a confused person and not that of someone promoting and.defending what they believe in.

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050

Thanks for this explanation.

You've researched him, so I cannot know better than you about him. The link you provided in your response actually nailed your points. After promoting Amorc in some of his earliest posts, he still had posts where he promoted Amorc materials and vehemently defended his action when called out by readers. That's revealing.

Budaatum surely belongs to the cult but supports atheism in debates against Christians. I have every reason to believe this until he clears the air about this duplicity.

FireTheSun:
And yet, after just 12days, they had to run to "Big Daddy Trump", to save their Nyansh from Iranian pummeling, by declaring a unilateral ceasefire!

Even in Nigeria, is the same thing not happening?
In America, did you not read recently, when the Trump Govt initiated a probe about how classified info was being leaked?
Whats the Biggy?

All these hyping of Israel and trying to insert "mistrust" into the Iranian Security, especially being overblown by a British Newspaper (recall that Britain also joined the attack on Iran, by helping to refuel Israeli Jets mid-air, on their way to attack Iran), let them attack Iran a second time, them we will see who will first call a ceasefire again.

BTW: IRAN WILL DEFINITELY BUILD ITS OWN NUCLEAR WEAPON, Its Centrifuges were not destroyed, it has kicked out IAEA Officials spying for Israel and it now has the full military backing of Russia and China.

Why are you Muslims always in bed with lies and falsehood?

Israel's aim during the war was to destroy Iran's nuclear networks. Nothing more. They planned to use ground soldiers but using them would elongate the duration of the operation. They had also wanted to kill Ayatollah during the ground operation. The US then had an agreement with Israel not to kill Ayatollah with a promise that the US will use its powerful bombs to destroy the nuclear sites instead of Israel using ground soldiers. America was the only country in the world that had the bombs that could penetrate the rocks and dismantle the nuclear installations underneath them.

On the 9th day of the war, America reneged on its promise to use those Bombs on Israel's behalf. Israel then decided to use ground soldiers and also kill Ayatollah. America pressured Israel not to kill him but Netanyahu refused. As Israel refused to back down, Donald Trump promised to use the bombs ad initially agreed.

That was how America came into the war on the 12th day just to bomb those nuclear sites so that Israel won't use ground incursion to do it and also kill Ayatollah in the process. America feared that Ayatollah's death would cause serious unrest in the middle East. That was how America saved Ayatollah from death. Israel would have taken him out.

America didn't help Israel in anyway during the war. Israel already finished his job. US helped bomb the nuclear sites and left as per agreement.

Israel was not even fighting Iran. They were just targeting their military leaders and scientists. If Israel was fighting Iran, they won't be making broadcasts to reassure Iranians during those 12 days. Also, can you imagine the damages Israel would have caused Iran if they started bombing everywhere after taking total control of Iranian airspace and decimating their military top brasses?

Why do.you guys like using lies to console yourselves?

budaatum:
Really? I did not know that buda identifies as a pagan and or believes in Marduk. Care to provide evidence for this please?

It shouldn't be too difficult since all you have to do is a simple search for "budaatum pagan" and "budaatum marduk".

Thanks in advance.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/5123700/disbelieve-know

I.do.not presume to know everything about you. All I said are inferences drawn from conversations with you. You speak highly of Marduk. That may not bot translate to a belief in him but majority of what I said about are true.

You even believe that spirit wives and spirit husbands are good for everyone. Isn't it? I need to call Triplechoice attention to this too. Everything about your religious life is just muddled up.

triplechoice:
Allow Lordreed to answer for himself.

What you're now saying is implicating you the more.

Before I answer you later why didn't declare where it was two years ago?

You claimed the link to it reach was invalid,but now I said it can be reached through your post and after the exposure ,you now admit it's on page 2 . Why?


Because I asked those I called to screenshot pages 1,5and 7 only

Thanks for your attempt to expose budaatum but I think you misunderstood him. I also once did. When I first started interacting with him, I thought he is an atheist. Later I found out he's not one.

Budaatum is not deliberately dishonest. He's just very confused. As a result, you could get confused about him because he dishes out his confusions very frequently. That's why Maxindhouse told someone that any conversation with budaatum is one chance.

Let me clarify.

Whenever there's a discussion about atheists, he'll enter the thread to vehemently support atheism. Then, in some other threads talking about God, you'll find out he believes in Marduk, the Babylonian god. Infact, he believes that Yahweh and Marduk are the same person. He also believes in ifa, the spiritual tradition of the Yorubas. He talks in support of all these 3 with a very distorted view of the Bible. His view of the Bible is strongly opposed to Christianity but has some tolerance for Judaism plus a staggering distortion of the Old Testament Scriptures.

All these make him really weird. Especially when he tells you that God does not exist as a person somewhere to be worshipped, and that you yourself you're a god of some sort. That's the Rosicrucian order part of him actually. Infact, I think I've also heard him say that everything around you is God.

He scanned information from diverse places and couldn't place a hand on anything specifically. So, he's just floating in the air belonging nowhere and has no particular definition of what he actually believes. That's his case.

So, when you see one of his sides, you'll conclude he's atheist. Another side tells you he's a pagan, and infact he gladly identifies as one. Another side of him will make you think he's into Judaism. In short, he doesn't belong anywhere. He's just floating, and does not even know what to believe specifically.

That's the person budaatum is and that's why many people are confused about him. He himself is confused about himself.

So, who is budaatum?

Budaatum is an atheist, a worshipper of Marduk, a staunt believer in ifa, an animist and a follower of Moses. Does this definition make sense to you? No! But that's who budaatum is. And, you see, he calls himself buda for a reason. The confusion no be here.

It took me some time to understand him. Anyone who engages him on any religious topic has entered one chance indeed. Maxindhouse was right.

KillerOfCrackas:
Bro, I know exactly how you feel because I was in your shoes.
Masturbation is not harmless it’s a trap. It drains your mind, steals your focus, destroys your drive, and keeps you far below your potential.
I was stagnant while all my friends were doing better than me, even my junior brother. No matter how hard I worked, I kept falling back because I went to porn every time the urge came it was my fault, but it held me captive.
The dark dreams, the heaviness, the constant frustration it made me realize this was more than a habit. One day, I cried out to God and decided to cut all triggers. I fell many times, but I refused to give in.
Today, I can boldly say: I’m free. I don’t feel the urges anymore. God delivered me.
Bro, don’t let masturbation steal your life. It’s deadly for your destiny. Fight it, remove every trigger, and stay determined. You can be free too. You just have to play your part while God play his. Stay blessed.

Thanks for sharing your testimony.

Please can you also share what your experience has been after leaving masturbation? Did life change for you? Did you experience any financial turn around or any advancement in life and destiny?

Thanks very.much.

LordReed:
LoLz. Excuses brewing. I am still waiting for your response to my message.

What excuses? Have you thought of it that we would rather give excuses for not coming instead of cooking excuses for prayers? You think all the testimonies I have ever shared are lies? Come off it!

Did you just land from Mars? What excuses exactly are there on demonstrating the power of God? I'm not like those whom you met before who came to you in their zeal but have no knowledge of how God operates. God is a God of Principles, and He does nothing for show.

The person I'll send to you will not be there on the basis of arguments. He'll be there to solve a problem. A genuine problem.

You'll tell me a problem you'll like to be solved. I'll tell him to go pray for you. He won't be there to prove anything to you. God does not operate to prove anything to mere ants.

You'll state the problem or problems and insert your phone contact. Once you meet the person, Jesus will take it up from there.

Expanse2020:
So wolves are parading sheep in the same pen🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A physical pen is not the pen.

LordReed:
Common occurrences that you cannot tell me how it works? So that when it doesn't work you can just claim there was no demon involved. Na wa.

Is anyone around you seek? Whether demonic or not, he or she would be healed.

The Holy Ghost guides us on what to do and what to pray. If you don't understand that, there's nothing else to tell you.

No one was sent to go and learn how it works. All we know is that we pray,band God hears.

We would not be there to argue anything to you or prove anything to you. We just want to simply demonstrate the power of God.

Do you think we'll come there and start arguing with you? We won't have your time.

LordReed:
LoLz! Everyday247 seems to be right you are just priming a get out of jail free card. You are going to pray for my family members that are ill but can't tell me how an illness is linked to demons. How am I then supposed to tell you who to pray for? Na wa for you people sha.

So, you think a man is the one who heals a sickness during prayers.

We know what happens in your life only by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

If the sickness or problem is generational, it's almost sure there's a demon behind it.

And we're not talking about just sicknesses. Any problem or issue whatsoever.

I don't know why some guys in this world talk about spiritual things as if they just arrived from Mars. These are common occurrences in genuine gatherings of Believers.

Expanse2020:
..

ehen so it's true that pastors, Christians always try to assassinate themselves because of the churches businesses

So suck

No.

It's true that there are wolves among the sheep.

LordReed:
How do you know an illness is due to demons?

By the guidance of the Holy Ghost.

Everyday247:
Sounds like you have a backup explanation in case your demonstration doesn't work

I don't understand why you guys think everyone lies like you do?

Everyday247:
are you allowed to test the lord?

No, we're not testing the Lord. We're going to demonstrate His power which we demonstrate everyday.

But as it is, we're not going to be casting out Atheism from lordreed. That wouldn't work as God would not force anything out of anyone against the person's will. If Atheism must go out of him, then himself must be willing to be delivered. God will not take from you that which you love except you willingly surrender it. God has given man freewill to do anything he chooses. Man can determine what he wants to do but he cannot determine the consequences of his actions. Consequences belong to God. Man has no control over that. So God will let him have his atheism if he loves it.

So, we'll pray for lordreed or his loved ones concerning any issue or problems they may have, especially anyone that has to do with demon possession. Mentioned demon possession because this has an instantaneous spiritual manifestation that could be seen now now. Except you have the gift of healings, most healings are gradual and may not instantly be seen. Moreso, the types of lordreed deny healings that take place after prayers, and rationalize it as one of those things.

We'll therefore want to pray for him or his loved one concerning a problem that has a demonic source from which he himself is very willing to see solutions. God is ever ready to manifest Himself in such scenarios. That's not to test God but to make His name and His power known.

Everyday247:
yawa!

What's that supposed to mean?

Are you this really ignorant of what God can do?

LordReed:
Ok then.. Sending you a message.

Okay l.

Expanse2020:
Ehen

The bible didn't need to prove itself. . But the author are known to church🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 which one of the churches are you referring to per say.....
The miracle worker like adeboye who raised dead but his son died he couldnt raised him🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abi na Oyedepo, or oyakhilome the miracle workers🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeye de smell

Which impact are you talking about per say abeg ....
Name it here

Find a dictionary and check what the church means.

Who told you that Adeboye or Anyone has the right to do what they want? God is the one who works through them and could take anyone away without them. Okay?

But their case is not like that of Mohammed who ate poison without knowing it. Very wicked man. After eliminating the whole family of a woman, he still say down comfortably to eat food prepared by her.

Adeboye and Oyedepo have poisoned several times even by close associates, yet they were not affected. Can you see the difference?

LordReed:
That's fine, I can meet in his church as long as he agrees we will record it on video.

It surely MUST be recorded.

JuanDeDios:
Most of the information they post is publicly available. I mean, you can get them to NBS or police HQ or Eons Intelligence or World Bank or other agency. That's why your assumption is surprising. And wrong.

Some of it is not readily available and require work to extract - for example, you may have to analyze media reports to come up with the stats. Mistakes can happen, but that's not the same thing as making things up.

No one published stats like that. All your statements are based on assumptions.

Who told you that the information they fish out are from the public archives? You or they?

Everyone publishing stats should be able to tell how the stats were gotten. Even publicly available data sometimes need to be cleaned. You must tell us your cleaning method that made you arrive at what you arrived at.

Expanse2020:
Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Daniel, Peter, Paul, etc all did many great miracles in the Bible.
With unknown several authors of the bible right...
The bible can not proof his authors nevertheless the 50% accuracy of what in there

Hehehe,

That's stale.

The Bible doesn't have to prove it's authors. The Authors are known by the Church.

Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Daniel, Peter, Paul, etc all performed miracles and a fat more greater than Mohammed in all things.

There are many Christian preachers today who are far more greater than Mohammed in terms of impact and spiritual authority. Many preachers have even raised the dead. What exactly has Mohammed done?

Hey, has the Quran proven Mohammed?

LordReed:
Nope we are going to meet in a public place. There is Millenium Park in Maitama.

Okay. Maybe I should link you two. He won't meet you there anyway. He'll not minister to you at a park.

He might invite you over to his place or church.

YouAreNobody:
Reports from police departments and individuals

That's actually an assumption.

LordReed:
Yes, just as you are just doing a confirmation bias. You don't actually know why he stopped posting you just assume it is in response to your prayer.

Abeg, I don't need to know why he stopped. All I know is that I wanted him to stop. I prayed for him to stop, and he stopped .

Whatever made him stop is an answer to my prayer.

JuanDeDios:
Did some of you go to school at all? How can someone sit down and cook up crime figures? If you want to know how they got the figures, you can email them.

You should ask yourself that question.

There's nowhere statistics are published without a clause of how the numbers were gathered. Even in academia.

Only illiterates will consume statistics based on assumptions. I didn't solicit for the statistics, so they should should publish how they got them instead of shoving unverifiable numbers down our throats..

Satisense has always failed in this area

Satisense will just sit down at one corner and cook up unrealistic statistics.

They will never tell you how they arrived at their figures.

LordReed:
LoLz! Chai na wa o!

What is the difference between you and the child who says ojuju is under their bed? LMAO!

That child is just afraid.

In my case, I set something in motion and it returned to me with results.

You can keep denying but the fact remains that the relentless poster only stopped posting after I prayed.

LordReed:
Oya now, let's do it. And we will film it too. When can you send the person?

Send me your address by email. Send me an inbox.

LordReed:
LoLz! How will I deny it if it is recorded? I can show one that someone did that he said he will cast out the demon of atheism from me. Another NLer was on the video too and as you can see there is nothing to deny, I am still very much not a believer in your god.

I dunno why you are trying so hard to run away. You no get the liver ni? LMAO!

What's your location? I'm in Abuja. Any day you want to try your miracle I dey here. LoLz.

I can even send someone to you in Abuja.

LordReed:
So anybody who stops posting on NL was stopped by a supernatural event?

How can someone who has a child be this childish in reasoning?

You're the one who has a childish mind.

The person was posting consistently until he was stopped by prayer.

Anybody can stop posting. Prayers can also stop people.

LordReed:
LMAO! I said we should do it live on video call or your prayer cannot work via video call? Bwahahahahahahaha!

Lol.

On video call where you will still deny anything that happened?

God forbid!

I'll rather see you face to face and lay hands on you.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! Look at you chickening out now. It is you who wants to prove your supernatural powers so it is all on you.

Since you think I want to persuade everyone that miracles don't exist why are you chickening out? Shouldn't I be the one running away from a live demonstration? LoLz.

Fact is you have no way to demonstrate it live. You are the deluded one my guy. Bwahahahahahaha!

Chickening out?

Is this how you stage a comeback after you failed to provide a natural explanation for the nail that got pushed out of the baby after prayers?

I didn't know that you were so thrashed thatbyou we're still thinking of s comeback many many weeks after we dragged the issue.

See, we are here enjoying the goodness of the Lord and the fullness of His blessings in answers to prayers. All we know is that if anything happens ONLY AFTER WE PRAYED, IT IS OUR FATHER WHO DID IT.

A child who.received food only after he asked his father for it would be very foolish to explain it away, especially when it has happened multiple times without number.

What type of intellectual mind thinks something that has happened multiple times without number is an occurrence that could be explained away?

Hey, if it has happened only once, we might call it a coincidence and even explain it away, but we have thousands of testimonies. Me that would even have died in 1988 if not for my dad who laid hands on me and prayed. I received strength instantly as cholera was about ending me. One inconsequential fellow will just come out of the blues, cry "Bwahahaha" and conclude in his far away corner that he can explain my experiences for me and even judge them. Hey, go and sit down! It's even an insult on my intelligence.

My friend, go and find the reason why that nail moved only after the mother prayed. Find the reason why my uncountable miracles have happened only after I prayed.

Honestly, if I come in face to face contact with you and lay hands on you, all the demons of Atheism will forsake their strongholds in your life.

LordReed:
First verify your daughter's tooth and your 38 year old spinster turned bride.

Look who is talking about low level thinking and posting that his prayer stopped someone from posting on NL. That is the posture of a childish mind. Is everyone who stopped posting due to some supernatural event? Think like an adult please.

If an occurrence has natural explanations, then the onus is on you to demonstrate that it was a supernatural cause instead, which you haven't done. Blame yourself for that.

Tell me what miracle you can perform right now so we can put it to the test. We can even do it via video call and record it so that I cannot deny it like you claim. Don't chicken out because you are the one accusing me of denying miracles so let's do it live and see.

Even if you ask my daughter today, she'll refer you back to that miracle.

I just see it as a waste of time talking to you honestly.

What concerns me whether you believe or not. Everyone has a right to make anything of his personal experiences. It is foolishness for anyone to tell another person about that person's experience as though he knows better than the one who experienced it. Absolute foolishness.

That's why I wouldn't say your atheist friend didn't recover the use of his leg and then explain it away the same way you atheists do. Instead, I'll verify the claim for myself and ask you to believe what you may of it. It's not my experience, it's your experience, and I expect you to know better than anyone else about your personal experiences.

I am sure that you are just doing everything to make sure everyone believes no miracle exists. You don't even want to verify anything or to do a deliberate research. I still have the elder sister of that lady's chats on my phone where she testified of the miracle.

Look, keep your delusions to yourself. God is Real and there's nothing shy attest can do about it!

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