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Policewoman: Dude leave this your abracadabra econometrics. From SIncerly9jerian's analogy one can deduce that the Lagos costs were greatly inflated by the govt.

Do you know anything about power generation? does Insincere9gerian? Especially in relation to the many, many factors that can vary cost appreciably? What sense does his uninformed 'guesswork' and logic-defying analogy make? Can you look at two people of the same size to tell who consumed more food today without seeing a detailed list of what each consumed? I hope that is simple enough and not too much "abracadabra"?

danny301: I am really impressed by some of this northern states governors... They seem to be doing much even when their allocations are very meager compared to what some of their colleagues from the federation's account... What remains now is for them to begin to invest massively in agriculture which has the capacity to increase their internally generated revenues... I am happy for Bauchi, kudos to the governor.

Sir, nothing to do with judicious usage of "meagre allocations". Bauchi is funding this IPP with a loan to be paid back over 25 years.

Governor Yuguda added that the Chinese EXIM
bank is providing the funds, which the state will
pay back over a period of twenty five years.

Standing5: Gbawe, for the fact that the e-dawgs are focussing on the difference between that of the FG and LASG and not the difference between the Bauchi and FG plant should tell everyone that they have and agenda against Fashola and in favour of the FG. They prefer not to admit how scale and size can drive down the cost of building such plant in order to spite the fashola and Tinubu but forget same anything they claim when comparing Lasg and Fg will work against the FG given the fact that Bauchi Plant is cheaper on cost/mw basis.

Bruv, they are ultimately wasting their own time while validating what is now common knowledge in cyberspace. I.e the notion GEJ/FG fans are clannish, simple-minded and ethnocentric element with no capacity for critical thinking. Their avoidance of comparing the Bauchi IPP and FG power generation project confirms this notion. Same thing for their obdurately senseless inability to understand that many legitimate factors influence the per MW cost of power generation. For example, does it matter at all to these dullards that a Nuclear-powered IPP would be significantly more expensive to build than a diesel or gas powered IPP?

Promhize: Gbawe you are shameless. Didn't you see 80m/mw, let put it in a lame man's words 80m per megawatts. Lagos built 10megawatts = 80*10 = N800million

APC is really made up of dumb people like you.
My 7year old cousin would understand that with no effort.
SMH, u are one ignorant wally.

Mumu. Do you use your head at all? Even with this latest attempt at saving face, do you think what you wrote makes sense from an Engineering perspective? Answer this m0r0n. Does the 10.34 MW IPP, built for $20 million) cost N800 million more than the 140 MW IPP built for $201 million? So, of what use is your N800 as a tool of cost comparison?

Aside that, when will it it sink in for you clowns that many legitimate factors can explain difference of N80 million per MW between a 10.34 MW IPP and 140 MW IPP? Even assuming materials, design and specification are the same, will the build cost of a single 3 bedroom house not expectedly be higher than the per unit cost of one 3 bedroom house in an Estate of 50 houses developed by the same building firm? What a bunch of insufferable dullards. I have no doubt that you guys do nothing productive in real life because if that were the case, you should be exposed to logical reasoning.

boladez: Talk about mediocrity when you leave decay in you state and criticise meaningful development in another state.

Don't mind the sad and petty individual. The 150 taxis in Ogun were part of a transport mix already including a BRT scheme and a planned light rail system for the State. Would it not be better if the resident herbalist masquerading as a medical doctor spent more time inspecting the deficiency of the transport system in his own State instead of badmouthing the solid efforts of others?

Rad1cal: Dunce, simply multiply 80m X 10.34 = ? Your small empty head.

Where there is an excess of 80 million per MW X the constructed capacity of the Lagos plant.

You should be the one attending basic adult arithmetic class

This forum is full of dunces, grade A m0r0ns and losers. Illiterate, is the N230 million per MW for a 10.34 MW project also? is N309 million per MW for a 140 MW project? A bit above your head but take some hours to 'turn things over' olodo.

Then, read what he wrote again to note he specifically made it clear he was talking about the only thing that makes minimal sense i.e the difference in rate per KW. Mumu, you do realise the forward slash mean per MW? Now translate "310m/mw compared to 230m/mw" for the forum airhead. You cannot, given economies of scale, simplistically compare a 10.34 MW IPP to a 140 MW IPP silly illiterate. If you had two half-dead brain cells to rub together you would see the crass idiocy of your own reasoning.

310m/mw compared to 230m/mw
Where did the remaining N800million go to.

Promhize: You are one fraudulent MTF.
Going by your calculation
320/10.32 = 3.1007752
310m/mw compared to 230m/mw
Where did the remaining N800million go to.

Olodo. You better quit while ahead because you clearly should not be here. You should be searching for an adult education course for basic arithmetic !!!! Is the difference between N310 million and N230 million not N80 million and not the N800 million you claim? You pathetic 419ners and the desperate obsession with maligning Lagos by hook or by crook. You all just look stuupid and the dishonest elements you are insisting others are with your garbled utterances and even more confused calculations.

Promhize: Gbawe let me teach you a little maths


LAGOS;
. 32b for 10mw
. 1mw = 32/10 = 3.2b/mw (pls is it me or why is looking I'm wrong there, instead of 400m)
BAUCHI
. $201m = N?
. N = 201*160 = N32610000000
. $201m = N32.6b = 140mw
. 1mw = 32.6b/140 = 229714290 » N230m/mw

Lagos N3.2/mw - Bauchi N230m/mw
. 230million*10 = N2.3billion
. N32b - N2.3b = X

Gbawe, pls help us find "X"

From the fool you've made of yourself here, obvious you could not teach even basic arithmetic to children under 5 years old. Also, you need to make a visit to your optician a priority. You don't appear to see too well or even reason too well for that matter. I asked you where you got the figure of N40 billion from and even magnanimously went ahead to show you a link with the right figure.

Rather than retreat gracefully, your vainglory grew and you decided to carry on, with more aplomb, on your 'mission'. Now look at yourself? N3.2 billion per MW?

What will your next dumb contribution be? A figure of N90 billion per MW ? You lot and your desperation to tarnish Lagos and her administration by hook or by crook? Can't you guys just stick to established facts, Engineering reality and the truth?

abes: If you are using Bauchi as a benchmark, the why is FG-China spending N203B on the 700MW Zungeru power project, that amounts to N290 million per MW. So whose pocket is the extra N60 million X 700 (N42 billion ) going?

You are paying attention to this confused hack? Once a person cannot accept that there is no standard or invariable per MW cost applicable to all situations of generating power, then such an unserious and ignorant character is only worth making fun of.

Sincere 9gerian: Now you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. You have lost ALL credibility on this forum. Here you are sweating all through this thread trying to defend the indefensible only to later discover there was an error in the calculation of the N400 million per megawatts. If you had any conscience, the N400 million per megawatts put forward initially, whether wrongly calculated or not, should have got you worried. But rather than get worried, the shameless and hypocritical Gbawe embarked on a voyage of self-embarrassment.

Gbawe., if you have any iota of SHAME left, the honourable thing to do is to abandon your terribly embarrassed and discredited moniker for a new one. That will give you an opportunity to re-build from scratch.

I have conscience and my conscience got me worried when I saw the thread titled "Gov. Fashola Spends N400 Million Per 1MW Of Electricity"
https://www.nairaland.com/1474680/gov-fashola-spends-n400-million

So while I did the Bauchi calculation in my opening post, I just lifted the Lagos estimates from the thread above. This much is obvious from my opening post.

Having realised that the Lagos estimates is N309 million per MW (not N400 million per MW) will you withdraw all the silly explanations you tried to give in your earlier posts?

So assuming the project was actually done at actually N400 million per MW and Tinubu and Fashola pocketed N91 million per MW (N400 million minus N309 million) or a whopping N900 million for the entire project, you would have covered it up with your long and boring grammar and propaganda like you tried to do on this thread before you realised there was an error in calculation? Must you try to cover up any perceived wrong doing and looting simply because these are taking place in an APC controlled states?

Back to issue at hand, why is Bauchi state constructing its own power plant at N230 million per MW while Lagos state did hers at N309 million per MW? For me, the difference is STILL massive, a whopping N79 million per MW. Where has the N79 million per MW or N790 million for the entire project gone into? Who pocketed the money (N790 million)? I see Tinubu-Fashola collaborative looting here. I see criminality and man's inhumanity to man here. Lagos is bleeding massively

What a load of hogwash from a discredited hack. We are talking of the authoritative figure of N3.2 billion used to build the Lagos IPP Oando delivered. Mumu is here telling us some roadside mechanic informed him that Fashola drinks ten bottles of wine per day. Take you 419 elsewhere shameless herbalist posing as a medical Doctor. What is your point silly illiterate? I forgot. You don't have one !!!! You only have your pack of lies and rumours you want to fraudulently palm off as 'fact'. Pathetic fellow.

awodman: Gbawe get out of this thread

Or you'll do what ?

abes: WRONG
Oando-Lagos spent N3.2 billion on 10.34MW not N32 billion.

now recalculate...

You are minding these fraudulent olodo clowns? Rushing to confuse themselves out of desperation to establish some phantom guilt by hook or by crook. Olodo wants to teach others. Pathetic. Nairaland sef

Promhize: Lmao

Gbawe you are a shameless fool! Economics of scale? lmao.

Everyone is liable to looting.
By the way I thought it was 40billion that was spent and not 32billion, even if its 32billion its till over by about 50billion.
I doubt if it would have effect on tinubu's "fully-looted" account.

Just admit you do not know what it means especially in relation to power generation and the discussion at hand. Olodo. Also, why are all of you GEJ fans fraudsters? Where did you get your N40 billion figure from? Just show us even a single source that led you to think "it was 40 billion".

http://ngrguardiannews.com/business-news/135204-lagos-oando-complete-n32b-power-plant

Lagos, Oando complete N3.2b power plant
FRIDAY, 11 OCTOBER 2013 00:00 BY ROSELINE OKERE BUSINESS SERVICES - BUSINESS NEWS E-mail Print


OANDO Gas and Power (OGP), a subsidiary of Oando Plc and the Lagos State Government have completed the construction of a [b]N3.2 billion [/b]Independent Power Project (IPP) in Alausa, Ikeja area of Lagos State.

The project, which is a 10.34Mega Watt dual fired power plant has already been slated for commissioning on Thursday in a bid to vastly improve the provision of power to the state secretariat complex in Lagos.

emiye: How did you arrive at N400 million per megawatts for lagos power plant, ? your calculation is fraudulent

Wow I totally missed this blatant and utterly shameless attempt at 'koro koro' 419. What a criminal-minded element. 10.32 MW at N3.2 billion gives us approximately N309 million per MW not N400 million per MW as fraudulent9gerian claimed.

Deceptive9gerian, this is the level of blatantly brazen deception mindless sycophancy has led you to. The forum can see you in all your crooked glory. What a shameless liar.

Fraudulent9gerian wrote?

Can we compare the N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus the N400 million per megawatt in Lagos? Who will deliver Lagos from the thieving duo of Tinubu and Fashola? What sins did Lagosians commit to warrant this mindless rapiing of their resources? Who will deliver my brothers and sisters in Lagos?

homesteady: Please can you tell us some of the factors?

Too many factors buddy and this is why we should not sit here like fraudulent illiterates, including a so-called "medical Doctor", disgracing Nigeria with utterances that would even shame the worst laymen.

(1)Equipment supply and installation cost (i.e sourcing component parts from the USA rather than the UK may increase transport cost to site.)
(2)Fuel type obviously affecting choice and quantity of equipment required.
(3)Cost of getting fuel to the plant i.e distance covered.
(4)Economies of scale.
(5)Sites costs (direct purchase, compensation, lease plan, etc).
(6)provision for waste disposal.
(7)Structural and civil cost.
(8 ) Indirect costs.
Etc, etc, etc, etc.

Point being that we should not make uninformed assumption , especially when not power generation experts or Engineers, to then ignorantly and arbitrarily say what is "high" or "acceptable" based on anything other than a solid breakdown of cost. Involving sentiments and simplistic reasoning to infer all IPPs must have a standard cost per MW is one of the the most senseless thing I have ever heard.

It is not the sort of argument any educated person should make. Ultimately, the point is that the Lagos and Bauchi IPP both fall within what is accepted today as justifiable per MW cost for power generation. Anyone seeking to claim impropriety should endeavour to do so with more than uniformed, ignorantly pedestrian and sentimental reasoning.

Sincere 9gerian: Dont mind the shameless Gbawe. Only an insane he-goat will try to defend the indefensible. N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus N400 million per megawatt in Lagos? The difference is massive.

God !!! What a horrendously 'thick' clown and a fraudster. How can you be a "Doctor" , i.e a man of science, yet reject established theory with a well-established basis in research and engineering reality? What an ignoramus. Anyway, you fans of GEJ are not known to be anything but mediocre in all sense of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale

Economies of scale
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Economies_of_scale.PNG/330px-Economies_of_scale.PNG[/img]
As quantity of production increases from Q to Q2, the average cost of each unit decreases from C to C1.

In microeconomics, economies of scale are the cost advantages that enterprises obtain due to size, with cost per unit of output generally decreasing with increasing scale as fixed costs are spread out over more units of output. Often operational efficiency is also greater with increasing scale, leading to lower variable cost as well.

Economies of scale apply to a variety of organizational and business situations and at various levels, such as a business or manufacturing unit, plant or an entire enterprise. For example, a large manufacturing facility would be expected to have a lower cost per unit of output than a smaller facility, all other factors being equal, while a company with many facilities should have a cost advantage over a competitor with fewer.
Some economies of scale, such as capital cost of manufacturing facilities and friction loss of transportation and industrial equipment, have a physical or engineering basis.

Sincere 9gerian: So looting-induced tremor is now causing you to type £201 million (N52 billion) instead of $201 million (N32 billion)?

You and your thieving masters are so pathetic. Nothing can explain the massive difference between N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus N400 million per megawatt in Lagos? Only looting, mindless looting!

Uneducated cretin. Even aside the many factors that can skew cost markedly between power generation projects, go and look into economies of scale in power generation and stop making a fool of yourself here. What a fraud. I honestly do not know any "doctor" as slow on the uptake or as as horridly bad at general knowledge as you are. You mean you do not even know what economies of scale is? God have mercy on Nigerians if you are truly a medical doctor.

Sincere 9gerian: Liar! What I can see in the report is $201 million (not £201 million). And please do the calculations in our currency (naira) so people can appreciate the ONGOING looting spree in Lagos and other APC controlled states.

Typo m0r0n. You are so 'thick'. A "Doctor' who sucks badly at basic manipulation of figures. Go back and see my post you quoted. Is $201 divided by 140 MW not $1.4 million per MW as I correctly calculated? If I had meant £201 million then my MW per million dollars would reflect this olodo. I.e £201 million becomes $320.77 million giving a rate of approximately $2.3 per MW. The correct $million per MW rate I calculated for both projects indicate you have no point yet are desperately, as usual, trying to hold on to pedantism as your ignorance and poor thinking is exposed.

Alos, whether I work in Naira or dollars will not cure your mumuism in relation to the substantive issue. Clever folks know that comparison is still efficiently and easily discerned once MW per million (whether in Naira or dollars) is made in the same currency for both projects. You're actually worthless as a sycophant because of your dull thinking. I will wait for some more clever folks, with the patience to attempt educating a hopeless case like you, to show up and make more sense of things for you.

Sincere 9gerian: 140 megawatts to be built at $201 million. $201 million is equals to N32 billion.

If we divide N32 billion by 140 megawatts we'll get N230 million per megawatt.

Can we compare the N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus the N400 million per megawatt in Lagos? Who will deliver Lagos from the thieving duo of Tinubu and Fashola? What sins did Lagosians commit to warrant this mindless raping of their resources? Who will deliver my brothers and sisters in Lagos?

What is this long-winded nonsense you are trying to deceive others with? 140MW produced at $201 million is $1.44 million per MW. The Oando delivery is 10.34MW IPP built for N3.2 billion or $20 million. This gives $1.93 million per MW. Aside the fact both cost fall within an acceptable range (up to as much as $4 million per MW) and that many legitimate factors (fuel type for example) can vary construction cost, you would have to be illiterate not to know that economies of scale in power generation alone can account for the difference seen.

Ask the clever guys here , like Standing5, to explain the concept of economies of scale in power generation to you since I have no inclination to waste time on the sort of ignorance that leads you to utter the m0r0nic 'one size fit all' notion that cost per MW should be same for all projects everywhere, with all fuel type and for all MW overall output. You say you are a medical doctor yet you do not appear to be even decent at thinking critically or effectively. I pity anyone you 'treat'.

Below is beautifully fluid demonstration of precisely the negative obsession with Lagos, Fashola and Tinubu that often lead some to lose their head and say absolutely senseless things even the least-knowledgeable layman should not utter. Below is a thread started by the uber-hypocrite Awodman and GEJ/FG sycophant which has only drawn one response so far. Gist of story is that Bauchi is building a 140 MW power plant with $201 million. Oando built a 10.34 power plant with N3.2 billion i.e $20 million.

Can all of you who have contributed ignorant and vitriolic rants here, including the OP with his show of 'pro-people' sanctimonious anger, tell us the difference between the two project when cost efficacy is similar given the concept of economies of scale in favour of the bigger Bauchi plant? Why are you not all on the thread below ignorantly insulting Yuguda and his Chinese partner? Let me guess, Yuguda and Bauchi does not get the blood of same racing like Lagos, Fashola and Tinubu. Can you kind kindly show consistency going to the thread below to dish out same treatment to Yuguda (GEJ's/PDP boy) and Bauchi over what will be spent? Or is it that the cost of the Bauchi plant show some of us were right asking you to educate yourselves and shun ignorance led mainly by sentiments and clannish dislike of others? Nonsense.

https://www.nairaland.com/1475807/bauchi-build-140mw-power-plant

The Bauchi state government has concluded
arrangements with a Chinese firm to
construct a 140 megawatts state independent
power plant.

Briefing journalists in Abuja, the state governor,
Alhaji Isa Yuguda explained that the project will
cost $201m and will be completed in nine months.

tosin2013: If this is not a treasonable offence, then there's nothing called treason! Please can anyone just stop and reflect over d above quote? Mr otuoke is bent on destroying d country!!

To be honest, GEJ would have been bounced out of office for that gross act of maladministration if Nigeria is even a half-decent nation. This is another thing that is unpalatable about GEJ. I.e the ethnic disunity and disaffection he has caused that means his gross failings go unpunished and even defended wildly by his ethnocentric fan-base as Mr.Larr even points out in the article.

Yet those social media supporters of the President who are partly sponsored and partly ethnically biased, always find arguments to package a dark, soiling coal as a bright, glittering gold. The caption was 16 greater than 19.

awodman: You so much pride in this your intelligence..please who told you..you are intelligent?

More display of grade A olodoism. I don't claim to be more intelligent than all here. I said I am far more intelligent than you are which is not hard to achieve considering you do something which every averagely intelligent person would have the thinking capacity not to do i.e speak decisively on a specialist area you know nothing about which host many legitimate variables that can impact on cost spectacularly.

Check the archives here to not that for all my criticism of the PDP, I don't even cross that line when it comes to costing of project because I have the basic intelligence to know I cannot speak decisively, either way, unless I see specific details of costing. If that is not available, and whatever my instinct, I simply say nothing rather than be calling others namely uncouthly over what is effectively my own guesswork.

torkaka: “Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity trust upon them.”
― Joseph Heller

[b]The hallmark of GEJ and his supporters

phantom: the sensible question to ask BEFORE you compare is what type of power plant did lagos build?gas fired? Diesel fired? Did they have to buy land for the project? What type is the federal gov building? These things impact on cost.@op ...we can all key in to a particular party's ideology without necessarily losing our common sense.

Thank you and your intelligence will continue to grow. We cannot all see things the same way or indeed even support the same Political Party or leaders. That does not mean we become debased either to be using lies, slander and outright fabrication to shore up our biases and affiliations.

gbanikiti: I am still waiting for one intelligent GEJ buttlicker to prove that the article is wrong. In the absence of that, I declare this thread closed!

Closed ke? I am enjoying how the fans of GEJ are proving Mr.Larr correct. As for proving the article wrong, if such is impossible even for those who deal with facts and logic then you know you are on a long thing expecting a coherent inspection of the article from the intellectually challenged fans of GEJ on NL.

As one example, is the massive and record-high oil theft we are witnessing under GEJ imagined? What do we do with the complicity of a President who insanely decided to hand over pipeline protection contracts to glorified oil bunkerers i.e militant warlords who then turn around to tell us not to dare mention "oil theft" and that this fiscally dangerous development for Nigeria is "resource control"? What "wrong" can anyone establish against the assertion the Government is now defaulting on paying States their allocation when per barrel benchmark for oil has been appreciably lower than what we sell our oil for almost throughout the three years GEJ has been President?

Did any of us make the NGF drama up or did we lead the disgraceful impeachment fracas in Rivers State? Is it a lie GEJ sets up many committees expensively only to then disregard their submission? Nigeria has become such a joke under GEJ to the extent it is only natural his die-hard fans have no choice but to behave like clowns making a fool of themselves day in day out and exposing Nigeria to universal ridicule.

With the many ludicrously farcical developments under GEJ, rendering Nigeria the worst theatre of the absurd, any surprise GEJ fans are uncouth, foul-mouthed and entirely unable to make cohesive arguments here predicated on facts, reality or logic? Frisky Larr, as with virtually everything else in his article, gets it spot on in regards to the nairaland fanbase of GEJ with the quote below:

Yet those social media supporters of the President who are partly sponsored and partly ethnically biased, always find arguments to package a dark, soiling coal as a bright, glittering gold. The caption was 16 greater than 19.

blacksta: I think it is completely childlike to attack the poster's article without offering an counter perspective - it only proves article right. The fact remains for every forward steps GEJ takes , he and his administration retrogresses 5 steps back. Committee upon Committee -yet no result - Anyway the Joke is on Nigerians who keep electing people who simply wont qualify as school Headboy's into very sensitive positions

Correct. Yet this is what we deal with daily on Nairaland. They will call us all manners of name but to prove we lie and/or argue without logic is impossible for them to achieve. We all know it is accepted universally that it is those who have no valid point to make who resort to hurling insults. This is why this is a behaviour to be found in almost all his fans here on NL.

It is okay to support politicians passionately but continuing to support a political leader who does so much wrong will, sooner or later, leave only two choices eventually . I.e (1) accept you pledged your support wrongly and remove it or (2) continue with the clannish support through the use of uncouth and foul-mouthed tirade against others in a futile attempt to deflect attention away from the unrelenting factual and daily indictment of GEJ's misrule. I think we all know the option most GEJ Nairaland fans favour.

[quote author=*556#]Do you have any superior argument to counter his points? Nonsensicus![/quote]Thank you !!!!! This is all they have in their 'arsenal' i.e a small-minded pettiness to join issue with others and hurl insult instead of presenting facts that can help their position/argument carry the day.

What else, for reasonable and morally upright folks, is there to talk about when it has been shown that the N3.2 billion Oando spent is much, much less than the figure can be depending on legitimate factors that skew total cost considerably? A reasonable and well-educated person, perhaps making informed decisions daily in life, will know only a detailed cost breakdown can prove anything either way since the engineering + or - cost limit actually validates what Oando spent !!!

Tedious having to deal with these simpletons everyday and their antics here only illustrate why we are where we are today. Can you imagine some of these guys as leaders? Sadly, that is the reality on the ground. Go figure.

awodman: Gbawe face it..you are such a hypocrite..the honourable thing you should have done is to ignore this thread just the way you ignored the thread where your party members clashed in abeokuta

If I am a hypocrite what are you if not an uneducated, highly dishonest and ignorant person unwilling to defer to fact? You are being shown, by those who are far more intelligent than you and know precisely what they are talking about, that cost for construction of a power plant can ,100% legitimately, vary considerably and your kind still show up to insist an e-lynching of others must still take place based on your own personal insistence and embarrassing ignorance.

What are we to do with people like you who have no use for established facts? Whatever I do here, no one can accuse me of lying or not working with facts or logic. Are you a power generation expert? What do you know about the topic? If nothing, just shut up and get lost. It is very distasteful how brazenly dishonest some of you Nigerians are. You disgrace our Nation trying to argue fraudulently against established facts merely because of your clannish devotion to a political camp. Hate the APC Party and whoever you assume is the enemy of your messiah GEJ all you want but uphold your position with facts always and refrain from disgracing Nigeria via displaying your alarming ease with dishonesty and disregard for facts.

Look at you all here, totally ignorant laymen, insisting wrongdoing has occurred merely because you say so alone whereas it is an engineering fact that a power station with the same capacity Oando delivered can cost considerably more than the N3.2 billion we are talking of here. When does basic morality cower the 419 instinct of you guys to make you defer to fact?

Goddex: Shame on you Gbawe, agbameta and all APC e - rats coming out to defend such glaring over inflated contract. It is common of your criminal party to steal, then turn round to bombard the masses with loads of propaganda about an imaginary performance.

APC states introduced the 1 billion naira per 1KM road contracts even at a time most PDP states were still awarding it for 50 million naira. I remember Shameless Gbawe posting Googled Internet links attempting to defend the criminality going on in APC states

Dude, insult and uncouthness is all you have and tragic that those unsavoury qualities are not matched by any erudtion whatsoever or even adult pragmatism. Whatever you say in your layman ignorance, the central point remains that much more than Lagos spent can be used to build a power plant of the same capacity Oando delivered for N3.2 billion. Also, the fact someone else delivered cheaper is not proof of anything if we once again take the central point that many variable factors can skew cost considerably in any direction.

A person properly educated and in possession of a logical and analytical mind would know a detailed breakdown of cost is the only arbiter over the argument of contract inflation acceptable to reasonable people who wish to make informed and balanced decisions. Bringing cost per KM of road construction into issues only confirms, as usual, your hideous and near illiterate ignorance. Even my 5 year old kid knows that road construction cost can vary considerably. That you are happy to insult and slander others based on your own ignorance says a lot about you.

Goddex: Gbawe, go put your noisemaking in tomorrow's senatorial elections in Delta state. As usual, you guys come on the media to rant rubbish but when PDP wins in the field you allege rigging.

The expected dishonesty of a GEJ fan who cannot even confront recent occurrence that shows the PDP is in a very desperate rigging mode. I take it you have no say on an election the APC won hands down only for the PDP to declare its man the "winner"? Embarrassingly for the Party, as another "only in Nigeria" shame the PDP confers on our Nation, the PDP "winner" even rejected his own "win" to vehemently insist the opposition won !!!!! Yet you have no depth to appreciate that when you wrote the above. What assurance does anyone have the PDP will not "win" again through the manner we all know they achieve their "wins"? Those who put the problem of Nigeria down to bad leadership alone are deluded.

gbanikiti: Lol! Am trying to figure at who the 2 people are! Hehehehehe!

Bruv you'll give yourself a serious headache trying to figure that one out. Look at the contribution of the GEJ supporters on this thread so far. Do you see even a single one that is issue-based or intelligent? Instead all we get are small-minded, petty and uncouth rants and an obsessed with hurling needless insult against others.

'Goodluck' finding 2 "intelligent" GEJ fans here. Like I always say, it is no coincidence that the most respected, distinguished and intelligent Nigerians do not rate GEJ at all. His fan base is appalling in its flimsiness and the reality of how it only consists of AGIPs, crooks and jobbers. Their equivalent on Nairaland are the uncouth, unintelligent, petty and morally compromised folks you see here in all their glory.

tosin2013: the tragedy here is the belief/theory/propaganda that jona is always right!!!

i understand gej wld av his supportters (even abacha had his), but the manner and vitriol u guys put on anyone that dare criticise this govt is sheer stupendous!!

where in d article did he lie on jona? who forced jona to open his mouth and say 'i dont give a damn'?
what about 5 greater than 26?
what about 16 greater than 19? (by the way thank God for Aregberascal)
and fuel subsidy fiasco? setting up a ribadu panel to appease us and then throwing the report away!?

in any critical analysis jona's record is a fiasco! thank you

Thank you !! This is the tragedy for Nigeria i.e so many individuals lacking innate decency and the sophisticated minds to see what matters !!! To be honest, I wonder about the damage Nairaland is doing to the already 'suspect' reputation of Nigerians. Many, especially GEJ fans as the author noted, come here daily and show they have no interest in the truth and are more concerned with insulting others frustratedly.

Like you, I also wonder where the author lied in his submission. In a serious nation, producing serious and morally balanced folks, there will be serious questions asked about the FG being unable to disburse allocation to legitimate tiers of the federation, i.e States, when per barrel benchmark for oil has been considerably and consistently lower than what is received for virtually the entire Presidency tenure of GEJ so far !!! Instead clannish and ethnocentric supporters of GEJ turn the whole thing into an issue about how States should go and generate more IGR when we should, as responsible and focused adults, be asking where the money is while insisting, with one voice, on fiscal transparency and accountability from the highest authority in the land !!!!!!

Has author lied about GEJ's total fixation with 2015 to the extent the first bill he tried to push through after his election win in 2011, with many other far more important ones's pending, was the 6/7 year single term tenure elongation legislation? Is the author wrong with what he has stated concerning the aberrant situation with Al Mustafa? Where does what we have all seen happen in the world even if Al Mustafa is guilt free? I.e a figure with so much controversy attached to his name declared free of guilt in relation to murder, after many years of incarceration, delving in immediately as another working for the sit-tight ambition of the President of the day !!

Is it not clear Nigeria has gone mad and that too many now support that madness than is healthy? Virtually everything the author stated is true yet as the writer of the article himself aptly predicted, uncouthness is all one can expect from GEJ fans. Tragic because this speaks volume about our fellow Nigerians to the extent it is clear why we are where we are vis-a-vis the concept of "bad followership".