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PoliticsRe: Will Jonathan Blow Up Nigeria For 2015? by Gbawe2(op): 7:05am On Oct 12, 2013
boladez: This is the only language the Retardees cockroaches have learnt to speak like the Retardeen daddy and this in the words of your mentor 'NIGERIA EMBARASS'.



Yes, what the Retardees do not have in intelligence, they have in abilities to abuse and insult still without brains! I know only two intelligent Gej supporters on Nairaland.

Retardeen, does not give a damn as long as he keeps wasting the space in Aso villa. As much as he may have good intentions to just be called president, there is no capacity to manage the country. No man can give what he does not have.
Bruv two ke? Is that not stretching things? I don't know even one and is that not a shame considering the number of Nigerians who are members of NL ?
PoliticsRe: Gov. Fashola Spends N400 Million Per 1MW Of Electricity. by Gbawe2:
bloggernaija: Seriously
The owner of this website need to get to grips with his property.
Allowing these primitive government propagandist to pollute this forum is seriously damaging the reputation of nairaland.
This post ought to be transferred straight to the trash bin.
How do you compare a van to a truck in terms of capacity to cost ratio?
How do you compare a train to a truck using the same measure?
Have you compared the cost to similar project elsewhere?
The mods need to raise their game.
TOO MANY STUPIDDS AROUND.
I totally agree. They say extremely laughable and ignorant garbage one is almost embarrassed to correct them because doing so exposes the half-baked education offered in Nigeria to the extent so many, with no clue about power generation, can rush in to talk so ignorantly. Almost like a carpenter pretending he has the knowledge to critique the work of a brain surgeon.

The sad thing is that non of these ignoramuses have any affiliation with the power generation sector yet crass feudalism and clannishness leads them to abandon caution to now say things that confirms they lack the ability to think critically or even effectively. The forum can see below , from the talk of informed stakeholders, cost estimation that puts issues in perspective for even a child. Any sensible person would know that cost can vary greatly and always best, especially when you are not an expert, to see a specific and detailed breakdown on cost before speaking conclusively since doing anything else would amount to making an ignorant and ll-informed conclusion.

Oando, on behalf of Lagos, built a 10.34 MW plant built at N3.2 billion i.e $20 million. Below, an involved contributor confirms he worked on a 10 MW plant that cost $125 million i.e £105 million more than the cost of the 10.34 MW plant Oando built. I really despair for Nigeria. We shout and brag a lot but the sad truth is that a lot of Nigerians, demonstrated day in day out on Nairaland, cannot even think in a reasonably effective manner. Absolutely tragic. Why can some not keep their mouth shut over things they know zilch about? It even appear as if the person who asked the question below is Nigerian. If so then I praise him/her. At least they are trying to become informed instead of the compromised ignoramuses here who, with zero knowledge of the sector, have all suddenly become power generation expert authoritatively knowledgeable about what generating plant must or must not cost never mind the many variables that can skew cost markedly .

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130410073744AAXYSSP


How much does it cost to build a 40 MW Electricity power plant?
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Ray;mond answered 6 months ago
$8,000,000 is very optimistic, but might be possible in China. Some possible types are gas turbine, nuclear or coal fired. Pollution regulations affect the cost considerably, and you pay extra for low liability, high reliability, highly automated, rare repairs, high efficiency, and long life expectancy. You could easily pay $8,000,000 for the land that the plant is built on, and another $8,000,000 for the power lines to connect to the customers. Neil
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RossK answered 6 months ago
It is highly variable, depending on type of power plant, whether coal, natural gas, nuclear, etc, and the location. A figure I have seen over the last few years is roughly $4 / watt of installed power, which would make a 40 MW plant cost $160 million. But I recently worked on a defense department power plant project with a cost of $125 M for a 10 MW diesel fired power plant (or $12.5 / watt) so costs vary considerably.

The attached link states that coal fired plants cost roughly $3100 / kW or $3.10 per watt, but that is 2008 costs and probably for large plants of about a 1000 MW. There is significant economy of scale in power plant construction.
Source(s):
www.synapse-energy.com/...07.0.Coal-Plan..
PoliticsRe: Gov. Fashola Spends N400 Million Per 1MW Of Electricity. by Gbawe2: 2:00am On Oct 12, 2013
bloggernaija: Seriously
The owner of this website need to get to grips with his property.
Allowing these primitive government propagandist to pollute this forum is seriously damaging the reputation of nairaland.
This post ought to be transferred straight to the trash bin.
How do you compare a van to a truck in terms of capacity to cost ratio?
How do you compare a train to a truck using the same measure?
Have you compared the cost to similar project elsewhere?
The mods need to raise their game.
TOO MANY STUPIDDS AROUND.
I totally agree. They say extremely laughable and ignorant garbage one is almost embarrassed to correct them because doing so exposes the half-baked education offered in Nigeria to the extent so many, with no clue about power generation, can rush in to talk so ignorantly. Almost like a carpenter pretending he has the knowledge to critique the work of a brain surgeon.

The sad thing is that non of these ignoramuses have any affiliation with the power generation sector yet crass feudalism and clannishness leads them to abandon caution to now say things that confirms they lack the ability to think critically or even effectively. The forum can see below , from the talk of informed stakeholders, cost estimation that puts issues in perspective for even a child. Any sensible person would know that cost can vary greatly and always best, especially when you are not an expert, to see a specific and detailed breakdown on cost before speaking conclusively since doing anything else would amount to making an ignorant and ll-informed conclusion.

Oando, on behalf of Lagos, built a 10.34 MW plant built at N3.2 billion i.e $20 million. Below, an involved contributor confirms he worked on a 10 MW plant that cost $125 million i.e £103 million more than the cost of the 10.34 MW plant Oando built. I really despair for Nigeria. We shout and brag a lot but the sad truth is that a lot of Nigerians, demonstrated day in day out on Nairaland, cannot even think in a reasonably effective manner. Absolutely tragic. Why can some not keep their mouth shut over things they know zilch about? It even appear as if the person who asked the question below is Nigerian. If so then I praise him/her. At least they are trying to become informed instead of the compromised ignoramuses here who, with zero knowledge of the sector, have all suddenly become power generation expert authoritatively knowledgeable about what generating plant must or must not cost.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130410073744AAXYSSP


How much does it cost to build a 40 MW Electricity power plant?
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Ray;mond answered 6 months ago
$8,000,000 is very optimistic, but might be possible in China. Some possible types are gas turbine, nuclear or coal fired. Pollution regulations affect the cost considerably, and you pay extra for low liability, high reliability, highly automated, rare repairs, high efficiency, and long life expectancy. You could easily pay $8,000,000 for the land that the plant is built on, and another $8,000,000 for the power lines to connect to the customers. Neil
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RossK answered 6 months ago
It is highly variable, depending on type of power plant, whether coal, natural gas, nuclear, etc, and the location. A figure I have seen over the last few years is roughly $4 / watt of installed power, which would make a 40 MW plant cost $160 million. But I recently worked on a defense department power plant project with a cost of $125 M for a 10 MW diesel fired power plant (or $12.5 / watt) so costs vary considerably.

The attached link states that coal fired plants cost roughly $3100 / kW or $3.10 per watt, but that is 2008 costs and probably for large plants of about a 1000 MW. There is significant economy of scale in power plant construction.
Source(s):
www.synapse-energy.com/...07.0.Coal-Plan..
PoliticsRe: Will Jonathan Blow Up Nigeria For 2015? by Gbawe2(op):
luvmijeje: If this is true, I can now see clearly why the President foolishness will become legendary. He is definitely not going to be re-elected and he is definitely not going to President of Niger-delta. The only option left for him is to be President of Ijawland and it's not even certain because the militants are smarter than him.
The irony is that GEJ will not even have sensible backing if he were running to be President of his region. The support he enjoys on this forum is clannish and ethnocentric only in so far as it is the concept of keeping him 'boss of the whole Nigeria' behind it. If Nigeria were to break up, no sensible or sophisticated region will ever clamour for GEJ to rule because he will be nowhere near the best 100 any region can produce.

All what we see is led by the insincerity of those who are supporting a man who is clearly a very ineffective and mediocre leader because, to their jingoist mindset, he is repelling and "frustrating" the North and SW. In short, the clannish supporters of GEJ will cut their nose, through the support of a President leading Nigeria nowhere, to spite their face with their "keep it away from aboki by all means" mentality. They will sit up quickly and say a loud NO if GEJ were to be placed in charge of the entire 'sink or swim' fortune of their new nation if Nigeria separated. Nigeria is the orphan no one loves so everyone can gamble with its leadership. If it were everyone's beloved and seprate nation, GEJ may not even make commissioner.
PoliticsRe: Will Jonathan Blow Up Nigeria For 2015? by Gbawe2(op): 3:36pm On Oct 11, 2013
Goddex: All you haters on nairaland including the author of this piece spreading hate stories on print and social media can go f**k you mama, for all I care. Bunch of loosers!
Glad the vitriolic post above was predicted by the author of article who says precisely what many of us here have observed about GEJ fans.


Most surprising to observers like me was less the reality of the President’s supporters suddenly turning uncouth, militantistic and foul-mouthed than their numerical upsurge at a logically mistimed period.
PoliticsRe: Will Jonathan Blow Up Nigeria For 2015? by Gbawe2(op): 3:33pm On Oct 11, 2013
Gorrbachev: This process of popularization was soon followed by a sudden surge in a hitherto marginal stock of aggressive sympathizers and praise singers of the President in a seeming invasion of several forums. Most surprising to observers like me was less the reality of the President’s supporters suddenly turning uncouth, militantistic and foul-mouthed than their numerical upsurge at a logically mistimed period
gbanikiti: This process of popularization
was soon followed by a sudden surge in
a hitherto marginal stock of aggressive
sympathizers and praise singers of the
President in a seeming invasion of
several forums. Most surprising to
observers like me was less the reality of
the President’s supporters suddenly
turning uncouth, militantly and foul-
mouthed than their numerical upsurge
at a logically misting period.





LOBATAN!!

Dem plenty for nairaland o! Abi make I start to mention names? huh lipsrsealed

No wonder Sincere 9gerian keeps on lusting for Tinubu and Buhari and calling e-APC members rats and all manner of names. Now I understand.
Witty guys. That I highlighted in red what you guys picked up on obviously did not sink in for some "uncouth, militantistic and foul-mouthed" elements who contributed posts that proves the writer correct about the followership of GEJ.
PoliticsWill Jonathan Blow Up Nigeria For 2015? by Gbawe2(op): 2:56pm On Oct 11, 2013
http://247ureports.com/will-jonathan-blow-up-nigeria-for-2015-by-frisky-larr/


Will Jonathan Blow up Nigeria for 2015?
By Frisky Larr



It is not unusual in a democratic setting, to start laying the groundwork for electoral success two years ahead of an impending election. Many will agree however that it is highly unusual to spend good three years of a four-year tenure preparing for an election to usher in another four-year term. Since last year 2012, the race for 2015 in Nigeria seems to have overshadowed all forms of governance and every aspect of political reasoning to say the least of maturity. Today, it has gathered momentum in a seeming unstoppable pace to destruction.

[b]Many users of the social media (Facebook, Twitter and several other comment forums on the Internet) woke up to a new reality in 2012 that President Jonathan has become the first Nigerian leader to appoint a Special Assistant on New Media. The young man thus appointed wasted no time making himself known to users and consumers of the social media services. This process of popularization was soon followed by a sudden surge in a hitherto marginal stock of aggressive sympathizers and praise singers of the President in a seeming invasion of several forums. Most surprising to observers like me was less the reality of the President’s supporters suddenly turning uncouth, militantistic and foul-mouthed than their numerical upsurge at a logically mistimed period. It was a time that the President attained a climax in his serial media gaffes. He would not declare his assets publicly and wouldn’t give a damn what the constitution says. The schoolboy stage fright and glaring insecurity of a Nigeria’s President fretting on a Christiane Amanpour’s show on CNN on the fringes of the World’s Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland was fresh in memories.[/b]

When rumored insinuations then made the round that an undisclosed sum of taxpayers’ money had been earmarked for laundering the President’s image in the social media, the sudden emergence of a Special Assistant and hike in popular support became easier to understand. Ever since, President Jonathan has recorded a huge success in gaining followers and buyers of his image product more than he has covered grounds in real governance and accomplishments.

At the center of all these efforts since 2012 has always been 2015 on the President’s mind. Ironically, the President is yet to state unequivocally that he seeks to be re-elected in 2015 even though this has meanwhile become the world’s most poorly guarded secret. In spite of all modesty and innocence in the President’s aura cladding his steps and body language en route to 2015, his deeply concealed sense of viciousness and brutal determination to cling on to power even at the cost of Armageddon is beginning to take observers by surprise as time passes by.

The veiled threat insinuated at the initial stage when hints were made of the President’s ambition, that the Niger Delta militancy may become difficult to control without Jonathan has since made way for an open threat by Asari Dokubo of Nigeria’s disintegration if Jonathan does not have his way.

Then came the judicial release of one Major Hamza Al-Mustapha from high-profile homicide charges, whose hanging many had thought was a done deal. The release of this once-dreaded young military dude from incarceration was less the surprise – after all, the judicial process is deemed independent – than the quiet insinuation that trailed the court judgment in a Nigeria of anything goes. Purported inside sources gave a sneak view into a tiny corridor that seems to have shown the project of Al-Mustapha’s release and rehabilitation as one that was dear to the President’s heart. It was difficult to believe. Today however, seeing the alliance between this former fugitive and the fire-brand creek fighter Asari Dokubo in the pooling of individual resources to salvage 2015 for President Jonathan, one hardly knows what to believe anymore between rumors and visual realities.

Worse still, was the completely botched project of disorganizing the Nigerian Governors’ Forum. The project ended up in absolute fiasco for the President who chose to offer an official reception for his favored Governor Jonah Jang – in the status of a laughing stock Chairman of the Governors’ Forum. Yet those social media supporters of the President who are partly sponsored and partly ethnically biased, always find arguments to package a dark, soiling coal as a bright, glittering gold. The caption was 16 greater than 19.

As if that was not enough, the Rivers State fracas followed with another embarrassing attempt to impeach the Speaker of the peripheral legislature. What transpired as another disaster for the image of President Jonathan was white-washed by his image makers as a by-product of Amaechi’s inordinate ambition. The caption was 5 is greater than 26.

It culminated in the formation of a “New PDP”, mediation efforts by an ostracized Obasanjo that was suddenly rediscovered as acceptable in polite society only to be ditched again with accusations of masterminding the split in the very first place.

[b]Nigeria is now dancing to a theater of absurd lyrics in a political mess that couldn’t have come with worse tidings. Leaving no stone unturned in the catalog of consuming catastrophes, it is now becoming obvious that the nation is facing a serious financial crisis in the midst of huge oil earnings. Free-for-all looting of the oil sector in cash and crude oil has become the unenviable hallmark of the Jonathan Presidency. Illicit refineries reportedly litter the Niger Delta; they are run by people who are not unknown to the powers that be and the President declares openly that he lacks the courage to identify corrupt people by their names for fear of being attacked. The Federal government is unable to pay allocations to individual states thus breeding a time bomb that is waiting to explode.

Yet we have a former Vice President of the World Bank as the Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister of the Economy. If anything, the biggest loser in the Jonathan equation has become Mrs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala whose reputation has now taken a serious hit for complicity in a culture of cleptocratic impunity. A lady who commanded hope for many optimists after she quit the Obasanjo government on the basis of principles after engineering the feat of debt-repayment is now ending up rubbishing all hopes for a better Nigeria. Many including myself, saw a presidential material in Mrs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. Why she keeps on hanging to her position in a free-for-all looting government in which she is obviously unable to introduce any meaningful change simply beats all imaginations.[/b]

In spite of all these however, President Jonathan wants to hang on to power in 2015 and is prepared to go to any length to achieve this goal. The latest item conjured from his bag of tricks with a wield of the magic wand is called “National Conference”. It is indeed, pseudo-surprises of this sort that gives President Jonathan his unique position as the most unenviable, least intelligent President Nigeria has ever produced.
While many Nigerians will wholeheartedly welcome genuine discussions on charting the future path for the patchwork coexistence of Nigeria as designed by British colonial adventurism, President Jonathan’s transparent fraud packaged under this label is the least Nigeria needs at this very volatile stage. President Jonathan’s relatively amateurish presidency often loses respectability on account of the ease with which people see through his political designs, which he often thinks are packaged as surprises. His bleeding nose from the NGF surprise and Rivers Assembly surprise does not seem to hurt badly enough to impair another blunder in the valley of surprises.


In spite of the political and financial woes that the country is currently suffering, the President is setting up yet another Advisory Committee (one among countless and fruitless committees) to provide recommendations on a National Conference – not to organize the conference itself. Such recommendations will be subject to approval or rejection by the President – a President that has hitherto consistently rejected the notion of any conference on Nigeria’s sovereign existence pointing to the duties of elected representatives.
While it is easy to see through the President’s 2015 strategy in the establishment of this committee, he is obviously unable to see the uncontrollable implication of any inciting recommendation this committee may end up making. The President will have the ultimate prerogative of rejecting or approving any such recommendation by the committee but will be powerless nonetheless in approving or rejecting any public agitation that such recommendation may trigger.

In the end, the President will hold the four aces in confronting his opponents for the presidency while the committee would have successfully hacked off their “fair share of the national cake”. “Agree with my re-election or I will approve recommendations to start the process of splitting the country!” A trick of choice that may bear hazardous consequences. If parties are entrenched in obstinacy and stand their grounds, the worst case scenario will be designed to see Goodluck Jonathan reelected as President not of Nigeria but of a breakaway Niger Delta Republic.
It remains to be seen, if the theory will match practice. The current state of Nigeria is the type that would have long warranted military intervention in days gone by. Not today anymore. How the scenario plays out then will remain anybody’s guess but Goodluck Jonathan deserves all sincere wishes of good luck with the intense hope that he scales through the tempest unscathed.
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PoliticsRe: Unemployment Worse Under Jonathan: National Planing Commission. by Gbawe2: 10:15am On Oct 11, 2013
bloggernaija: This 21% unemployment they keep bandying about tells you all you need to know about Nigeria .
[b]If you cannot even see a problem,how can you solve it ?
[/b]Real unemployment must be closer to 80%
.
Is okada riding now a career ?
More appropriately, what if you are not in office to "see" problems in the first place? I think Nigerians still do not appreciate that GEJ is not in office to see problems let alone be interested in solutions to them. Have we not all seen him directly waving away solutions and rejecting what has to be done? Can any President match GEJ's record of setting up numerous committees and then ignoring their recommendations? That alone tells te entire story as far as "seeing" problems goes.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 8:36pm On Oct 10, 2013
kofoshi: The usual vituperations and dare I say that I am not in the least bit surprised. This is what you have become synonymous with, one way traffic monolithic verbiage devoid of any substance but that of irrelevant praise singing. To get anything critical or balanced from you is like expecting water to come forth from a stone.

A sad journey, your life has become. It is a shame though because prior to becoming a shameless sycophant, you seemed to exhibit some promise but all that now has gone with the winds. Like abati, like Gbawe.

Sad low life dregs of the earth you are. You live by sycophancy and shall equally perish by it!
When will even one of you simple-minded losers validate your presence on this thread by making a logical argument in favour of your negative stance against this project? All we get is repetitive and petty vitriol delivered to assist your naked dance around the fact your negativity is that of those who have nothing between their ears and are led , like barbarians, to obey primordial instincts.
PoliticsRe: Unemployment Worse Under Jonathan: National Planing Commission. by Gbawe2: 8:26pm On Oct 10, 2013
omenka: You'd wait till mushrooms grow on your phone!!
They avoid threads like this just as they would a handshake from a mad man.
Wondering how they will 'spin' this one. Corruption statistics are worsening yet they lie. Worsening insecurity they deploy propaganda to blame Buhari, Tinubu and El Rufai. Worst level of oil theft in history is "nothing to do with GEJ" according to his fans never mind the treasonous decision to hand pipeline protection contracts to glorified oil bunkerers. It is , according to a militant warlord, "resource control". What say the fans of GEJ over this latest negative indictment against their misruling messiah?

We all know Governments get retrenched by voters worldwide over worsening unemployment so we can all go and introspect on how the GEJ government, considering it has failed in many other sectors, is now guilty of worsening unemployment in Nigeria. It is the heights of clannishness and jingoism that this President, worsening things everywhere, still has supporters talking of "fresh air".
PoliticsRe: Ogun State The Next Lagos In The Making? by Gbawe2: 4:08pm On Oct 10, 2013
[quote author=invest-now2013]I don't Think that it will be that long![/quote]I agree with you. I believe Ogun State will be massively transformed in even the next 5 years if Amosun continues the way he has started.
PoliticsRe: Picture Of Obama Eating In Mama Put With Nonentities by Gbawe2:
OP, they are not "nonentities". They may not be as prominent as Obama but they are important in their own right.
PoliticsRe: Agagu’s Son, Feyi Condition Critical; Flown Abroad by Gbawe2: 2:17pm On Oct 10, 2013
ik4life: Tinubu get ward 4 the hospital...... Nawao
What is wrong with some of you and your senseless negative fixation with the Tinubu name? Is he an alien from Mars or a former number one citizen of Lagos State? If a ward in a State hospital cannot be named after a former governor of the State who should it be named after? You? A serious topic like this, involving human life, and all you can comment on is a ward being named after Tinubu?

@Topic. My prayers are with Feyi, Akin and any other survivor of this horridly tragic accident. Hope they pull through and make a full recovery.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 9:35am On Oct 10, 2013
ba7man: Oh....I'll go check it now. Thank you.



Seen.....I've copied down the link.

Hopefully, let's say they accept the proposal and those kind of buildings start popping up on the horizon in the near future, its the same set of people that will come criticize it as it being a means of the LASG to further reap off the populace.
You can bet on that. They will then call you all manners of names without acknowledging your humble beginning, hard work and determination to be part of the solution for your State, region and Nation. You will be deemed a "siphoning front" for Tinubu and Fashola by these pathetic elements.

Bruv, do your thing abeg. Life is too short for it to be used indulging haters. It is a wicked world we live in. To that end, opposite to how you embrace progress that benefits all of us in society, frustrated losers and haters will also do their thing as sure as the Sun will rise daily.

The main thing, as Fashola and Ropeways transport and other solution providers are doing, is to carry on supporting and abetting progress while remaining unperturbed by the hollow noise of those who emptily and obsessively nurse 24/7 bad belle for others.
CrimeRe: Nigerians Accused Of Kidnap Killed In Guinea-Bissau by Gbawe2: 9:22am On Oct 10, 2013
This thread makes me sad for Nigeria and Nigerians with how so many support the barbaric lynching of these men who are our fellow Nigerians. As decent human beings, we should remember that the guilt of these men was not established comprehensively. These men were merely accused of a crime and then summarily executed by savages who took the law into their own hand and played judge, jury and executioner !!!!

We must all remember the saying "there but for the grace of god go I". We should all pray, as Nigerians, we are not the victims of an untruthful allegation in a hostile Country where illiteracy and human backwardness make some believe all Nigerians are demons who fly at night to meet and deliver stolen children to the devil. Jungle justice is wrong because anyone, even the innocent, can become a victim of it.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 8:01am On Oct 10, 2013
ba7man: How would you now feel if the project is now completed, people are riding in it and praising the LASG for their innitiative in the near future??

You should know that since they're involved, planning permit won't be a problem......or was it when the concrete footings of the light-rail was being constructed??
Please pay no attention to these f00ls. I think, by now, it is obvious thy have no coherent argument to put up capable of hiding their bad belle which makes them 'grasp at straws' desperately and inanely. Who needs enemies with this lot parading themselves as "Nigerians"?

Hope you saw my response to your enquiry?
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
lastpage: Believe me, the likes of Gbawe, Sloan, Agbameta and the 40-i-Pad crew are not real Yorubas!
In every tribe you have their likes (sycophants and shameless praise-singers) .......and they dont represent such tribe.

Dont humor them by making them think they are intimidating anyone around here, its just that "one should not argue with fools less their wont be any distinction between "both"".

As a born and bred of Lagos, to a few generations back, l can say authoritatively that this "flying car" is no different from the "floating Boat restaurant" which Fashola and Tinubu's cohorts use in siphoning the wealth of Lagosians. That vessel was towed down here with our tax-money all in the name of tourism!
They will claim it is "completely private" but then, here and there, you will see how they have used "public infrastructures and public space" to enhance their own personal profit!

Can you imagine that if for example, l run into some money or loot Lagos treasury and hop off to the U.K ... and then decide: "SINCE IT IS MY MONEY" (Private Initiative or Private Money as those clowns refer to it), that l want to build a Project (May be a mansion) and the people in that area "have no say or benefit from it or majority of the Brits do not benefit from it!

You think the British Councils would not shoot it down very quickly?
I have witnessed were such projects were denied "planning permission" simply because for example, it will "deface the SKY-LINE" or it will "block air-flow to some part of the area or even block the path of sunshine to some resident's house!

That is an environment were people dont just think about the benefit that accrues to THEM ONLY, even when they are investing their private money, ...but consider the 'wider effect' on others who are stake holders in the society.

As long as Gbawe, Agbaameta and these "40-i-Pad otimkpus" get their crumbs from their employers, they are bereft of reasoning and logic.


They may claim to be Lagosians but in reality, they are what the "real Yorubas" will refer to as "Alaa te'nuje, omo okele"
(Boyz of the stomach who thrive on filthy lucre).


They really deserve to be pitied.

Lastpage!
What a joker. Whatever "Otimkpus" means, same to you. Look, give yourself high blood pressure over this issue if you want but the bottom line is that this is a private sector funded project, much like KFC or even Shoprite, you have the full freedom to reject in your own personal capacity. The real issue is that bad belle, and the fact you are losers, has made you pathetic cretins unaware of boundaries and borders. Leave others alone if they choose to be happy and supportive of this.

It is not your money or that of the State. Insinuating that the money of the State is somehow behind this, when you have been formally introduced to the financiers, is another example you are a loser who has no sense or appreciation of what goes on in the real world of those who are societally responsible and actively involved in providing solution, one way or the other, for the Nation they live in.

I will not only personally enjoy riding the cable cars when ready but I will also take pleasure discussing this first-of-its-kind development with my non-Nigerian African buddies. Cheap, simple-minded and pretend Che Gueveras like you can remain here trying to fool the gullible with senseless talk you assume detracts from your obvious and nauseatingly senseless bad belle and pointlessly empty arguments.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
kofoshi: I have renewed hope that there are indeed intelligent non partisan individuals who can look at an issue and give critical analysis and unbiased response. I am glad also that you did not stoop to the lowly level of the Fashola's town criers. It is always refreshing to read a balanced view unlike this degenerative low lives who only see bullying as a way to ram their disjointed views down everyone's throat. I am utterly appalled by the gutter language employed to subdue any reasonable voice that counters their lies.

Thank you for your maturity and please do not feel overrun by these sycophants. Shame they do worse than they accuse the likes of Beaf and Sincer9igerian for. The are all as bad as each other and dare I say that these Yoruba mob is far worse!
You sad losers are not fooling anyone with your 'victim' whining after you have been exposed to be guilty of the usual fake and unobjective negativity only driven by the nauseating bad belle you have for others. Look, you and others should redeem yourselves by displaying the "critical analysis" you talked off via showing cogent reasons for your opposition to this. Do that now or get lost . No more diversionary self-pity. You are not kids so man up or take your tears elsewhere !!!!! You are getting exactly what you deserve for your non-stop and thread-derailing negativity. This your 'victim' antics is totally pathetic. Even the ladies here will feel sorry for you crybabies.

You can shout "Yoruba mob" all you want but that is only another confirmation of your bigotry and the fact you lot have no capacity for confronting what you do wrong and used to get away with 24/7 here till many proud Yorubas started accepting that enough is enough !!! Personally, I will advise all Yorubas to not join the intolerance and prejudice of others but to be ready to defend themselves and their ethnic group from prejudiced and intolerant folks who are indoctrinated to never talk about anything related to the SW with any objectivity whatsoever.

Even when there is no room or need for negativity, as is the case with this 100% private sector funded project which should be a source of pride for all Nigerians, you sad creatures are here yapping and saying things that would embarrass a child while talking of "objective criticism"!!!! What is objective about dictatorially, arrogantly and childishly seeking to tell the private sector what to put its money into and which infrastructure to build for you? What is objective about making a fuss over something that will not utilise a kobo of your money or that of Lagos State and which you have the option of avoiding if you dislike it that much? What is objective about the immature display of anger because the private sector chose to invest in a cable transport system and not a tram network? What objectivity can we attach to the words of someone who talks of Lagos and her Yoruba leaders negatively here 99% of his posts and lied wickedly Tinubu slumped and was seen bleeding from every orifice in his body? You people should confess your real problems and issues because you do not make sense to balanced folks

Mentioning Insincer9gerian and Beaf is another loss for you since the forum knows the 'focus' and 1diocy of those two. Beaf, like you sad elements, discussed the SW 24/7 negatively only to eventually unravel as a pathetically bigoted coward through his confession to the forum he was "scared" to talk of his native Delta State because everyone was armed. In other words, the coward feared attack if too critical of those in his native State failing his people, like the woeful Udaughan and many like him, yet he had no such fear savaging Aregbesola, Fashola, Tinubu et al daily because the entire Nigeria knows the Yoruba will join you criticising his own while others shield their own as if they are eggs. Is this not the same forum where those who savage Tinubu, Adenuga et al 24/7 mercilessly are praising Kalu hypocritically as a "saviour" of the SE? As for Insecure9gerian, he is just a clown who disgraces himself here by starting threads of ignorance, discrimination and prejudice against others daily. No surprise those unprincipled, disgraced, cowardly, intolerant and highly prejudiced sad cases are the 'idols' of a crybaby mischief-maker like you.

When we start to respect each other completely and people like you confront why others may be angry at what you say , as real and fair men can always do, then amiable and genuinely objective conversion can flow.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 5:34pm On Oct 09, 2013
ba7man: If i came up with an idea that can be sold to the Lagos State Government, What are the processes of presenting it to them.

How is it possible to get it across to the right ears in Government?? Is it compulsory i have an insider to help me push it??

I'v been doing research in Affordable housing and i have some cost effective concepts that are still profitable. (I'm serious about this).



These are the kind of thoughts that should be generated into sound minds in order to key into the PPP initiative........Not just criticize, as if they've once won best Governor of a State somewhere before...........its all in their heads.
Bruv, first off you should register a company with direct linkage to your business proposal. That is the first step to being taken seriously. Next have a well-written feasibility report that details what you want to do with specific information about cost, benefits, volume etc. You should then contact LASG using the link below. It always helps in Nigeria to have an 'insider' but that is not completely prohibitive these days. Be sure of your plan, do your homework, present said plan boldly and with confidence and you may be on the path to something productive.

Important to remember that you may not immediately get the result you want but seeking to engage a State with your ideas , at that level of partnership , will give you the feedback to feel you can make things work.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/contact.php
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 1:28pm On Oct 09, 2013
lastpage: Funny the way these 40-Laptop/i-Pad crew are giving themselves "backslaps and Hi-fives" when they cant even discern the use of "WE" in this discuss, erroneously attributing it to mean that "the project was funded by ALL OF US"! grin grin grin

See the way they are hyperventilating over the use of a single word "WE"! shocked shocked grin

It is not in my place to start lecturing folks on the use of grammar and figure of speech, Walahi, l don do that one tire! grin grin

If you dont see it, you cant just see it .... it may just mean you're blind!
If you dont get it, you just cant get it, ...you may just be dumb from birth! cry cry cry

Cranially-dwarfed peeps!

Lastpage!

Honestly l am tempted to join issues with the likes of Gbawe and co. but on second thought, l realize that our thought-process are aeons apart.
Peeps like him see development from the narrow perspective that "anyone with the 'cash' can do whatever their heart/mind pleases in a society, irrespective of whether it is for the "larger, collective benefit" or just to make more money/profit.
While l on the other hand, am discussing "building an efficiently cohesive and socially just society", they are trumpeting "profit-oriented albeit exploitative individual investment"!
How can l then thrash out issues with such lowly minds?
I just cant
Say how the cabal car system harms your interest or that of Lagosians else shut it 'airhead'. No one is deceived by your vacuous pontifications you put up to hide your crass simple-mindedness. 100% Privately funded, 500 jobs created, home-based innovation, a good addition to the transport mix, pollution-free, zero traffic, low cost transport, scenic travel, tourist attraction, definitively attractive project etc, etc. I could go on because I work with ideas unlike you who is routinely negative for the sake of it alone. Produce salient reasons, devoid of your verbosely irrelevant ramblings, why this development is a negative or get lost and spare us your unintelligent drivel.
PoliticsRe: Merging Of Osun Schools: A Call For Tolerance by Gbawe2: 11:51am On Oct 09, 2013
Absolute Gold !!!

Religion like ethnicity is a real problem in Nigeria simply because we the people wanted it to be and it has remained a constant factor for the myriad of challenges facing us. We have deliberately decided to attack one another when there are absolutely no reasons to. And where there are reasons, we are ultimately blindfolded by our imaginative thought with a “This religion wants to dominate us” syndrome. The animosity has eaten deep into our fabric so much so that government policies which are hitherto geared towards the betterment of all are immediately seen as an attempt to “Christianise” or “Islamise” the polity. And as followers, we are so immersed in the quagmire of religious insensitivity so much so that extrication may force an innocent mind to think we cannot live together as one nation under God.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 10:56am On Oct 09, 2013
ba7man: That is why the rich are always few in number. They see a problem and they come up with a solution, making a lot of money through selling it.

This is what Lagos State Govt has encouraged through the PPP.

Most people are good at criticizing just to feel important and intelligent. They then go back to their desks in their offices and their life goes on the same cycle it always has..........they then come back the next day to complain some more.
Thank you!!! Personally, I look at the owners of Ropeways and I am inspired by them immensely !!! If there is one thing I am ultra-passionate about, it is the concept of local minds delivering local solutions !! This is the panacea to our development and all of us can be involved if we start thinking of ourselves as part of the solution. I just love it when Africans make an effort to do things for themselves. That is the real demonstration that we are really ready, beyond the flowery rhetoric, to move forward.

Of course this is a welcome development. It costs Lagos nothing and will be a service of free choice. I.e use it if you want or ignore it. We should be discussing the prospects of the transport system and the solutions it delivers plus other associated issues arising. Yet this is impossible on a forum like this where many, as you aptly put it, criticise emptily and senselessly "to feel important and intelligent".
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
Sloan: I think you people are just too foo.lish to read and understand! What are "WE" investing here when a private company is privately building a piece of infrastructure with privately sourced funds? Who are the WE in that? Look, it is not by force to use the cable cars! If you have the financial muscles and the brains to build your trams, go ahead but another company has chosen to build cable cars, something they do and are experts in. It is so disgraceful that fool.ish people still talk like you in this world!
Indeed. I really cannot believe the crap some are writing here. Imagine his dumb and arrogantly ignorant use of "WE" here in relation to a project 100% funded by the private sector? Yet he is worried about the "reasoning level" of others? This is how you know what is driving contributors like Lastpage i.e the fact they cannot calm down and, like reasonable adults, realise that this is a Lagos initiative the private sector is helping to actualise.

When these nuisance posters cannot discern this basic distinction you can understand they won't be part of the solutions any time soon and will limit themselves to inane and worthless contributions. The lazy thinker is talking about "we invest in trams" without fundamentally understanding that Lagos does not have the money to just "invest" in any idea any random citizen, out of many millions, comes up with however laudable such is !!!! this is the fiscal reality Fashola and guys like the owners of Ropeways transport deal with as builders of society !!!!.

Why does this Lastpage character not work to form his own funding consortium and raise an attractive PPP tram proposition he can approach Lagos with? Would Lagos ever say no to a proactive effort from a genuinely productive 'son of the soil' if, as the most burdened state in Nigeria by far, it is approached with a workable plan for a tram system? Is it not even patently lazy and tediously distracting to begin suggesting one form of transport while condemning another when all progressive Lagosians would fundamentally appreciate that a State which will be hosting 25 million people in the near future will need a transport mix as diverse and as comprehensive as possible?

This is the sadness of it all. We need solutions badly and do not get such. Instead every lazy and vainglorious thinker comes here daily to make 'Holy grail' suggestions that will cost many billions of dollars Lagos does not have without the adult balance to realise that this money must come from somewhere and perhaps even from us getting involved to help our beloved States and Nation grow as Ropeways transport is doing. The day we gain the sophistication to move away from empty and perpetually negative citizens to note some of the solutions lie in our own hands is the day we will begin to see many more companies like Ropeways rising up to bridge the gap between where society has to go and where it is currently.


lastpage:

You know, l was about to ask the same questions you raised up there!

But l realized that this post is just another "job" of the 40 i-Pads crew!

I would rather we invest in Trams (small intercity electric Trains) in highly populated areas that "Cable cars" in Lekki, Ikoyi, V.I and other high-brow but less populated areas of Lagos.

More alarming is the "reasoning level" of our youths! angry angry
God help them. cry

Lastpage!
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
lastpage: Thank you for your post jare.
I am Yoruba, l dont give a hoot about any political party or personality-followership and l an NOT a beneficiary of neither the 40-Laptop nor the 40-iPad! grin grin I have been using a computer since those days when they only come along as a dumb terminal and weigh a ton on your "special table".

You can call me any name you like, l no send.
If l see what l think is wrong or needs further attention, l will say it wella.
I dont follow the crowd or pledge "blind allegiance" to anything or anybody,.... not even to my tribal brothers.
That is why l am Yoruba! .... and l must say that some of us are not living up to the billing in our recent discussions.

Granted, some Ndigbo will criticize and try to rubbish anything that has its origins in Lagos/Yoruba or even APC (OPC? grin ) but then, like l always say, "we must never forget who we are" nor forget why we are always a cut above the rest.

The reason is "our ability to self-evaluate, self-criticize and self-regulate".


We "improve and refine" in all these criticisms and l expect most of my brothers here to learn to take criticisms, even when you "honestly" consider it unjustified, .......in your stride.
But there are also "honest criticisms" which YOU might not be aware of and the fact that it comes from an "Igbo-hater" (as you often label it) is not enough reason to ignore it, gloss-over it or deny it outrightly!

For example, looking at the population demographics of Lagos state, l will honestly expect the govt to make "mass transit options", its priority .... and to START such mass transit projects, in areas where there are more people (numerically) so that even more of the masses will feel the benefit of such projects.

Mind you, l am not saying that if you locate such projects in Ikoyi or lekki, that there wont be users/customers for it; my point is that it benefits more people, who actually need it most, as they have no "better alternative" ....(compared to affluent people of Lekki and Ikoyi who probably have three cars parked in their compound and rarely commute long distance to their homes, from work)... ..
if "low income and densely populated areas" of the state take priority in the location of such projects.

Now, l understand that "private initiative projects are strictly FOR PROFIT" and if a user from Lekki can conveniently pay #100 to use the service, his counterparts from Mushin, Ikorodu, Bariga or Makoko might not be able to afford more than #50 for the same service thus, a profit oriented private investor would make his choice wisely!
But then, this is where "responsible and responsive governance" comes into play.
Government has a duty not just to the rich but even more to the poor. It is a social responsibility and it is not uncommon in "sane climes" for Govt to partly fund a project in order to make it locate to a particular "low-yield area" where it would benefit the "numerically-larger, masses".

Some have been quick to point out that some "masses-oriented projects" have been slow or seem abandoned, in favor of "for-profit and elitist-location projects" in Ikoyi, V.I and Lekki axis.
Well, facts on the ground seem to support this assertion and what l expect any "omoluabi" to do is examine this critically (for example, the badagry road under construction, inland waterways transport, pipe borne water, e.t.c. dont even get me started about the state of our BRT System!) and either adduce intelligent reasons on why they appear stalled/stopped or proffer reasons why they could not be completed/initiated as expected.

Instead, what we get is a lot of rancid and foul-mouthed abuse at anyone who dares raise a divergent opinion like we are all supposed to subscribe to the 40-Laptop/i-Pad sheep mentality! Very un-Yorubaic! shocked

That Lagos is miles above most, if not all other Nigerian states is as obvious as daylight, especially most states in the East of Nigeria and l can understand when some (Yorubas) ask them to "remove the lump from their eyes before pointing out the gnat form the eyes of others".

In essence, they are saying "do you criticize your own Governors, who are doing virtually nothing in your state, the way you descend on Fashola and Lagos"? Thus, l will admonish our Igbo brothers to let 'charity begin at home' ....without neglecting the outside as well.
Let us see the "fairness" in your criticism.

We all travel to the East, irrespective of whether you are Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa and we use those "death traps" and erosion riddled roads in the East. What are Igbos doing about this? What are you doing about your Governors that come to "spend weekend in Lagos or Abuja" while leaving their people in abject poverty? Do l see you criticizing them openly as you do Fashola and Lagos?

let us all be objective and redefine our criticisms, let is not be "ethnic based" or based on a "we against them" mentality as this is what the politicians want ...and take advantage-of.

Always remember, bad roads in the East dont kill Igbos alone, plane crash in Lagos dont kill Yorubas alone neither does Boko Haram in the North, killing Northerners alone. Our dilapidated educational and health sector affects all our kids, (Yoruba,Igbo and Hausa) so why should any of us keep quiet if we see and think it needs addressing?

We may "go on a yabbis galore" at ourselves but in the end, we are still "Brothers and Sisters"!
We can disagree heatedly but we should let reason prevail at the end of the day!

****Waiting for the flaks*****

Lastpage!
Loads of crap typical of the vainglorious mindset of many Nigerians that sees them long on self-important pontifications yet very short on critical thinking and the provision of positive input that moves society forward. Stay here talking crap. It is Nigerian individuals exactly like you, i.e the owners of Ropeways transport, who are helping a Nigerian State develop while you are talking copious garbage irrelevant to the main topic. Those guys, long ago, decided to be forward thinking, progressive and part of the solution, via providing world class infrastructure and getting involved, while you remain here barking incoherently, irrelevantly and ignorantly.

Lagos will get a cable transport system that will alleviate the transport woes of its citizens while also filling them with pride that another laudable project, the envy of others in Africa, has been delivered with the effort of illustrious Nigerian sons who form what every society needs to develop optimally i.e local minds delivering local solutions . Something you and others here, with your needlessly and irrelevantly negative talk, are not part of and will never be part of.

If you are sensible and into progress, it would have occurred to you that you could have saved your negative verbosity for another thread appropriate for your rant. You should discuss this development on its own merit and leave unrelated matters for another thread. Even a balanced child will know that we will get nowhere, either in the search for solutions or regarding productive discussions, if threads discussing positive and laudable development is hijacked and turned into an arena of extraneous gnashing of teeth while the main topic under discussion is discarded by vainglorious pests troubled by the heavy chips on their shoulders.

It is almost as if you guys cannot breathe when you're not being irrelevantly negative for the sake of that dumb concept alone.
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
mojeer678: Need we say more, it's obvious that agbameta and gbawe and their other handles work for the mandarins in Alausa going by the arrogant and rude manners, exclusive access to childlike graphics meant to woo the unwashed and the effusions with which they gush out ad hominem attacks at anyone brave enough to criticize their paymasters.

They deserve our pity not excoriation.

To so patently support falsehood is a new low in servitude. History is replete with human beings such as these; just like the Jews who betrayed other Jews to Nazis.

You make so much noise about PPP as if people don't know what goes on behind the screen. But the time to talk is not yet ripe. You praise capitalism to high heavens yet even the so called bastions of capitalism are now into socialism overdrive, except your intellectual capacity does not grasp the essence of bailouts and other extreme measures being taken to stave off economic collapse in the West, Marx would be having a chuckle.

The facts are out there to see; it's not yet Uhuru to be praise singing Fashola. Let him and his administration, if they can, tackle the huge challenges of governance instead of these paparazzi gimmicks and token developments.

By the way, have you received your alert yet? grin grin cool
You're nothing but a hate-filled semi-illiterate. That much has been established. This nonsensical post is tedious further confirmation of that. A serious and patriotic private Company, the sort that help society develop plus is inward looking and led by responsible Nigerian sons, is spending serious cash to address a serious problem and you are here yapping incoherently and hatefully about "Paparazzi gimmicks". What is wrong with you for god sake? Why not try and fight the empty and senseless hate you have been indoctrinated with instead of coming here to make a fool of yourself day in day out?

You people have no shame and no humility to see the disgusting creatures you have become that no human being should ever want to be or witness in anyone they love. I would be thoroughly ashamed of myself as a father if any of my children turned out like you lot who maraud cyberspace with hate, prejudice and negativity that is always assisted by ignorance to the extent you blind yourself to what is written while repeating the same deceitful lies and fraudulent garbage like brainwashed folks under an evil spell ala disciples of David Koresh.

I will gladly pay my N200-N300 to enjoy the privately-funded cable project that, like other things Lagos has delivered, will be a first in West Africa every progressive and well-adjusted Nigerian should be proud of while you can remain here unintelligently and deceitfully attempting to morph into Che Guevera and Fidel Castro. Simply do not use the Lagos cable system when it is delivered. Stay in your dingy corner hating.


Ropeways Transport Limited is investing $500 million (about N81 billion) to launch a cable car mass urban transit system in the nation’s commercial capital, Lagos.

The cable car transit system, the first in the quest in Nigeria to provide commuters affordable, safe, timely and stress-free mode of transportation, particularly in urban centres like Lagos, is being floated by a company owned by Dapo Olumide, former managing director of Virgin Nigeria Airlines; Yemi Osinbajo, former attorney-general and commissioner for justice, Lagos State and Yemi Ogunbiyi, proprietor, Tanus Communications Limited.

Already, Ropeways Transport Limited has signed of a 30-year Franchise Agreement with the Lagos Metropolitan Area Transport Authority (LAMATA) and the Lagos State Government for the execution of the project.
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Gbawe2: 8:50pm On Oct 08, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2:
Rogbese: Thanks for your observation. You may notice that I never knocked the Fashola administration on this initiative. I pointed out that maintenance has always been the bane of successive administrations. What he is doing is laudable, I only point out that there are a lot of other areas where this kind of focused drive is needed.
I have nothing against anything you wrote at all. In fact, folks like you are the welcomed critics who perhaps can benefit from a bit more information about the overall situation in its entirety so that you gain a better grasp of the true picture. When I talked of the need to criticise fairly I meant others you defended when you said they were merely contributing "opinions". You may be a decent person and likely speaking for yourself but believe me that there are loads of people here who just operate out of bigotry and ethnic hatred of others. People know them and this is why their submissions here is met with 'aggression'.

No one here, perhaps except Agbameta with his linkage of this to what obtains elsewhere, has reflected on how this is something definitive of progress and conferring pacesetter status on Nigeria other African nations can currently only dream about. Same as I want to take my kids to ride the famed Rio cable lines in Brazil is how Burkinabes, Cameroonians, Ghanaians, Togolese, Beninoise, Chadians et al will be eager to experience something they connote to be common only to countries outside our continent that African nations admire and want to imitate. Are these not the sort of projects, aside addressing a real transport deficiency, that brings immense glory to Nigeria? Even more fulfilling to know that a Nigerian firm is 100% behind this. Why can some not be proud of that and discuss this project on its own merit instead of the senselessly toxic negativity we have seen displayed here?

Many unhealthy reasons ("bad belle" for others, 'habitual' negativity for the sake of it alone and bastardized ethos) has ridiculously rendered many on this thread incapable of realising what this cable transport project is.
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Gbawe2: 8:08pm On Oct 08, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Gbawe2: 7:30pm On Oct 08, 2013
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https://www.nairaland.com/1469472/cable-car-project-verge-completion/4
PoliticsRe: Cable Car Project On The Verge Of Completion – Fashola by Gbawe2: 7:19pm On Oct 08, 2013
Rogbese: I very patiently read through the entire post and I must say I'm appalled at the level of insults here. Someone raises an opinion and they're called all sorts of names! Wow!!! I believe we are all very much above this level of mud slinging and should learn to criticise constructively.

Truth be said it's a good idea. HOWEVER, too many past events leave one wondering. Maintenance will be an issue. The current BRT bus system is a case in point. Waterways have also not been full fully explored. The current light rail system is not completed. Too many untied ropes.

We also cannot lose sight of other pressing issues. The education sector is severely lacking, health is almost non existent. Our roads are in such bad shape yet we are forced to pay for mot certification.

A lot has been done but there is SOOO much more to be done.
No disrespect but I don't think you read through the thread as "patiently" as you claim. If you did then you should have noted that this cable transport system is not being built at the expense of those considerations. It is about a Lagos State project the private sector is comfortable putting its finance into. The Lagos cable project is a PPP arrangement between Lagos State and Ropeways transport. Ropeways will operate and maintain the system for 30 years.

The same cannot apply to education and health for obvious reasons I hope I do not have to explain related to how States can only attract Private sector funding to certain sectors and initiatives. Agreed Lagos will simply have to do more in regards to education, roads and health but the State is trying to stretch relatively meagre resources while coping with a dearth of assistance from the FG. Those aware of Lagos State's serious financial constraint and even physical burden, discountenanced dishonestly by the FG through a bogus census, will know what I mean.

If a light rail system is to be built in Abuja then the FG may fund it 100% yet Lagos has to use PPP for everything, including absolutely pivotal infrastructure, and shop for funding with its own efforts as if it is a Nation separate from Nigeria !!!! This is why I find it ludicrous some are asking what has happened to the Lekki Port, airport, light rail et al. Those are all staged project heavily dependent on private sector funding Lagos has to chase, secure and deliver !!!!!

With the light rail for example, we see the great deal of work that has been put in already and every genuine Lagosian will know the constraint facing the State government Fashola is trying to bridge (see article below). Serious work, that has gulped a fortune, has gone into the light rail and we can all see things are advanced and on course yet some will come here to rain abuse on Fashola when most projects (Lekki Airport, FTZ, light rail et al) are private sector reliant to begin with !!!! Insulting Fashola over such is not an "opinion". It is character assassination borne of bad belle and ignorance. We all know Fashola completes projects. He would be the last administrator in Nigeria to delay a project if uninterrupted funding is available for every stage.

Relatively small-cost PPP initiatives, offering attractive ROI for the Private sector partner and which can be concessioned completely, tend to come on board quicker with minimal fuss and delay like this cable car project costing around $500 million. It is essential we criticise logically and sensibly and a lot of people are not doing that here. This is a good and needed addition to the currently inadequate transport mix that does not come as an opportunity cost to anything else.


https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=1469472&post=18673722

Lagos rail project receives UK boost

on September 03, 2013 / in Homes & Property 12:27 am / Comments


By Olasunkanmi Akoni

IF the promise of the British Deputy High Commissioner to Nigeria, Mr. Peter Carter, is anything to go by, British investors will soon key into the multi-billion naira Lagos Blue Line (Okokomaiko-Marina) Rail Project. This is in addition to the support of the British Government via the Department for International Development (DFID).

Lagos Blue Line is one of the seven rail projects planned for the city and it is one of the lines that will constitute the spine of the city rail network. It is being implemented on a Public Private Partnership (PPP) model with the public sector leading the provision of infrastructure while the private sector, under a concession agreement, will be responsible for operations and maintenance. On completion, it is expected to move more than 400,000 passengers daily.


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File Photo: On-going structure at the new rail line. INSET: Gov. Fashola being briefed by contractors at construction site

The rail project which is being constructed in phases was designed to significantly reduce congestion along the Lagos-Badagry corridor, improve public transport provision and use and stimulate development along the axis.

Carter gave the assurance during a visit to the Lagos Metropolitan Area Transport Authority LAMATA and a tour of the rail project under construction. Commending the state government on the project, the envoy promised to bring to the attention of British investors opportunities available in Lagos, especially in the transport sector.

His words: “One of the things I have learnt from this visit is that there are a lot of opportunities for British companies to get involved here. This is the message I will take away with the aim of encouraging British companies to look seriously at this project and the opportunities more widely in the city of Lagos.”

He expressed delight at the pace of work on the light rail describing it as an impressive project “the engineering behind it, the strategic plan, which underpins it and the expectation that this is going to help residents move around the city more easily and perhaps crucially take traffic off the road.”

Carter also promised that the British Government would continue to support developmental projects which would positively impact on citizens of developing countries to make them more productive for the benefit of their economy.

He disclosed that the British Government had been making contributions behind the scene to the rail project. “In terms of British involvement, we are already involved through the Department for International Development. We make significant contributions behind the scene through the financing of the provision of technical expertise,” he stated.

The Director of Public Transport, LAMATA, Engr. Gbenga Dairo, who conducted Carter round the project, said the state government was already considering extending the construction from the National Theatre to Marina to bring the total length constructed during the current phase to about 11 kilometres. The Blue Line rail project will cover a distance of 27 kilometres all together at completion.
PoliticsThe Party Formerly Known As The PDP By Sonala Olumhense by Gbawe2(op): 3:12pm On Sep 09, 2013
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The Party Formerly Known As The PDP By Sonala Olumhense


Posted: September 8, 2013 - 10:59
Columnist: Sonala Olumhense
As I prepared last week’s column in which I reflected on whether Nigeria will survive 2015, little did I know that before its publication, the Profoundly Decadent Party would unravel. On August 31, one day before the column appeared, the PDP collapsed.

And it all took place in Eagle Square in Abuja where, for 14 years, the party has perpetrated some of its most heinous magic, made some of its emptiest promises, and laughed the hardest at Nigerians waiting for the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to put in an honest day’s job for Nigeria.

Drama does not always move swiftly. That was not the case with the PDP House of Cards as the vengeance of its own demons swept into its convention. One moment, there was “African’s biggest party” in full ceremony mouthing the same empty clichés with which it had arrogantly and disingenuously perpetuated itself in power.

But the next: there was one Big Man after another Big Man rising in outrage and sweeping through the exits, followed by their State delegates. Disturbing word would come back: their Excellences had not merely swept out, they were emptying into Musa Yar’Adua Centre, and they were doing and saying things.

Beyond the departing men and women, all of the air seemed to have departed the convention for the Musa Yar’Adua Centre, leaving the convention suspended between disbelief and mourning.

At the convention, there was the wilting party chairman Bamanga Tukur, apparently wishing the ground would open up and swallow him up. Next to him, there was President Goodluck Jonathan, stunned into the terrain of breathlessness and powerlessness, perhaps wishing someone would hand him a shot of ogogoro. He was in such disbelief he was actually able, reports said, fall asleep.

Within three days, the mayhem would spread, 57 members of the party in the House of Representatives would join what has become known as the ‘New PDP,’ led by Alhaji Abubakar Kawu Baraje, a former national chairman. The past had become the future.

It may have been completely untrue to say that President Jonathan dozed off during the dynamic doings at Musa Yar’Adua, where the new leadership was saying some pretty devastating things about him and the party.

The first thing they did, in effect, was to challenge the very notion of democracy in relation to the PDP. Confronting one of the mysteries of the age, they wondered, these PDP “born-again” politicians, how the concept of democracy appeared in the name of the PDP in the first place. They accused the PDP of Tukur and Jonathan as lacking a “democratic temperament,” of being inherently incapable of guaranteeing democracy as it lacked faith in free choice, the rule of law, transparency, and accountability.

It is not surprising when ordinary Nigerians call the PDP names. Since 1999, it has been little better than a swarm of locusts or an army of occupation. However, when the PDP begins to call the PDP names, Nigerians who hold the PDP responsible for the nation’s collapse are vindicated.

We have argued that the PDP’s quest is for power, not responsibility. That power, which is often acquired by manipulation, is often turned against the people, who are robbed and insulted.

I am an unrepentant critic of Mr. Jonathan because he is the most potent symbol of the decay of Nigeria, ascending to the nation’s highest office by luck and suddenly to become over-exposed.

Last week, as the crisis fermented, Mr. Jonathan accused Olusegun Obasanjo, the man who plucked him from obscurity and put him in office, of precipitating the crisis.

The truth is that what is going on in the PDP is not a crisis at all. What we have seen in the past week is the natural extension of the regime of democratic betrayal and manipulation which began in Nigeria in 1999. The Bible says “whatever one sows, that will he also reap.”

Ignoring this counsel, the PDP has repeatedly snatched the keys to political power, and then those of the Central Bank. Ignoring it, he PDP has systematically nurtured and bred a culture of corruption wherever it has travelled. Ignoring it, the PDP has defined a new political geography in which nobody within the family could be wrong, and nobody outside it could be right.

The philosophy enabled the PDP to “win” elections everyone knew it lost; it could field a dead leaf against a well-prepared citizen and its dried leaf would win. Consolidating under the famous umbrella, many dead leaves became so wealthy they began to think they were alive.

And then there were dead leaves within the family but not in power that saw no reason why dead leaves wielding power should tell them what to do, and dead leaves within power who found no reason why they should be challenged.

That is largely how we got here.


What is the future? Well, that one is complicated. Obasanjo is accused of masterminding the conflict, but is that good or bad? Obasanjo created the first conflict; is he really creating another so as to resolve the first?

And if he is doing that, is he not contradicting himself? Obasanjo created Jonathan as his puppet: a weak political neophyte the strength of whom was in being able to pronounce the word, YES, to lead 150 million with a sick man who could be manipulated from a hospital bed.

The trouble is that the sick man did not stay sick. He died. That meant the man who knew the word, YES, needed to learn a few more words. It is no surprise he has often said the wrong, embarrassing or empty ones.

But if Obasanjo wants Jonathan out, can he possibly be working with Atiku Abubakar, the man he hates the most, in order to accomplish that objective? Some “analysts” draw attention to the presence of several Obasanjo loyalists in the ‘New PDP,’ but nothing about Moses who led them out of Egypt.

My reading of the tea leaves is quite simple: [b] Obasanjo is not against Jonathan, but Obasanjo is not for Nigeria either, as History testifies.

Were Obasanjo for Nigeria, Jonathan would never have ruled Nigeria in the first place. In 2006 when Obasanjo chose him for Vice-President, he was unqualified, unprepared, and facing a corruption indictment.

Obasanjo is for Obasanjo, and that is what must be understood in the current situation. Obasanjo knows that politically, Jonathan has run his full course and cannot win in 2015. He is also propelled by such people as Tukur and Tony Anenih whom Obasanjo simply loathes.

Obasanjo knows that as a product, Jonathan would be not be as sellable as he might have been in 2011 when he enjoyed Obasanjo’s support. He would thus readily be defeated by a robust opponent from a hostile party who could be sending the party’s legion of thieves to jail by the bus load every afternoon.


By “opposing” Jonathan, Obasanjo is using smoke and mirrors to position himself to determine who the next President will be: another puppet the principal task of whom will be to keep the kleptocracy well protected.
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PoliticsRe: Nigeria Ranked Among World’s Poorest Competitive Countries. by Gbawe2(op):
Reflex123: @Gbawe; why not tell us what you would do to improve the economy of Nigeria if you become the President. I have seen several of your comments on this forum and I am amazed at the way you insult people that have a different opinion from yours. So please tell us what you would do to improve the economy of Nigeria if you happen to be the President.
You guys are taking the insult thing too far. Who do I insult if not those who insult me first ? They quote me directly, when I have not spoken to them, and you do not see that. What manner of partisanship is that? Is it not all tied in with supporting GEJ and thus blinding yourselves to his wrongs and that of his supporters on this forum who are routinely uncouth with a preference for attacking others so that the facts and core issues are lost? It is only the transgression of others you will note never those of the GEJ fans who are 100% the initiator of insults here.

With improving the economy, there are tonnes of things GEJ can do that he shuns. Why, as one example and when he has the power to ensure we do otherwise, import fuel through marketers? Otedola , a member of the President's economic team, advised that we can defeat scams point blank and increase efficiency drastically by engaging foreign refineries directly and cutting out middlemen!!! You tell me why GEJ cannot accept and implement this advise that would surely have far-reaching positive effects for Nigeria.

It is the same with selling our crude through traders !! Ribadu advised we stop that and reduce theft against Nigeria. GEJ ignored him. You will find that, in many sectors, GEJ deliberately keeps "middlemen" in the process, when he can/must abolish such instantly, so an 'underground' beneficiary system remains in place feeding awon boyz and draining the Nigerian economy. That is economic sabotage . Can you justify his decision to hand pipeline protection contract to militants that has now resulted in the biggest level of oil theft in a while?

Why is Nigeria, under GEJ, the only Nation averse to serious cost-cutting that can free up vast amounts of money for infrastructural development? Why can we not cut cost? Why can a 10 plane PAF not be reduced to 2? Why !!!

The SME is regarded as the "lifeblood" of the economy of most developed Nations. Have you seen any serious effort of GEJ to grow this critical sector or is it that legions of objective experts, not Gbawe, have concluded that GEJ is "unserious" regarding the strengthening of Nigeria's SME sector?

Why does Jonathan never act as a solution provider and why does he brazenly reject the many advice he is given that can drastically put Nigeria on the path of progress? Reply without diversion or sentiment and we will carry on. I will be happy to politely show you many things GEJ can/should do to improve the economy that is not being done.

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