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Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 1:16pm On Sep 20, 2014
lanrefront1:

You people have said this so many times and we have heard you, why don't you just leave us alone..... if he really is the best Christmas gift, and since we know you want GEJ to win by all means, then really, you should be championing that APC field Buhari so that they can lose gallantly to PDP.

But instead, you are doing the direct opposite... championing for APC to field Fashola. His your love for APC that great that you desire help them choose the best candidate to field against GEJ?

We know this is not the case.

Thank you. It would be best if most of these folks do what is in their heart, which is to queue behind one of the worst president in Nigeria's history because of ethno-religious bias, rather than coming here to pretend that their support of APC can only be secured through the Party fielding Fashola as Presidential candidate.

We all know that if this happened then the same people will find numerous excuses to be attacking Fashola. As if the rest of us are not wise enough to discern that, for some people, it is about using every excuse , however dishonest and frivolous, to damn and condemn anyone who stands against the 2015 ambition of a leader ,i.e the ultra-woeful GEJ, who is on course to making Nigeria a failed example of another nation destroyed by ultra-corrupt, insincere and avaricious leadership.
Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 12:19pm On Sep 20, 2014
LeSaint:

Your position on Fashola strengthens the proposal - or do you know that he'd be offended by an offer of a VP ticket?
On your second point, you speak for yourself. Buhari is known across the length and breadth of this country, and he has come the closest to winning than any other opposition candidate. Even in the minds of the PDP juggernauts, the mention of the name Buhari raises palpitations, because of what he is known to stand for - see the analysis made earlier above by beopened.
Take someone like me; a Xtian Ibo, late 50s, apolitical (at least non-partisan), but wants what's best for my country and for my children going forward. I have seen and lived through a lot, including the Buhari/Idiagbon era, and I have no doubt in my mind that we have narrowed our problems down to bad governance (to wit, indiscipline and large scale corruption). I also know that no one has all his being focused on tackling this problem more than Buhari does. It should make no difference if he is Fulani, or Tuareg,or prays to a tree or doesn't pray at all, as long as we are assured of his devotion to that singular task.
And there are signs you'll know someone is so denoted in that regard; you'll see it is his demeanor, in his lifestyle, his acquisitions, his pastimes, his family's public profile. Fashola may reflect good governance, but he hasn't acquired comparable reputation in that regard. He is a bit of an establishment man. But he has lots of other complementing qualities that would make the duo dynamite.
Granted, the current Northern insecurity hasn't helped Buhari's public perception, but i tell you, if we miss the opportunity again this time, we'd miss the train for a long long time.
Pity a lot of people are beclouded with sentiments, emotions, unfounded perceptions and prejudices. But, unfortunately, the only ones who seem to see through it all are the very perpetrators of bad governance.

A candidate for post of the year. I salute.
Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 12:12pm On Sep 20, 2014
lanrefront1:

Now I know why you want APC to field Fashola as President. You want APC to field Fashola as President because you want APC to gallantly lose to PDP.

The truth of the matter is: out of all the people available for APC, Buhari is the only one that can give PDP a run for it's money.

Totally correct. Even Fashola himself, as a pragmatically intelligent man interested in doing what is best fro Nigeria, has never proposed his own ambition to be above whatever is pragmatically required to defeat a ruling Party that has destroyed Nigeria over a period of 15 years and counting.
Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 12:03pm On Sep 20, 2014
swtdrms: I wouldn't be surprised seeing pdp apologist and propagandist interfering in APC issues, they come around and parade themselves as havin apc interest in mind or havin Nigeria's interest at heart but rather their interest is that of pdp and biafran igbo agenda, barcanista & gbawe2 rightly opined, we don't hv to get ourselves occupied with hvin unimportant debate wt u, just go and perfect your pdp agenda and don't pretend to b pro-apc cuz we already know what agenda you are tryin to achieve . Even if the combination of Buhari/Fashola wldnt be the best, but atleast its focused towards reclaiming our future and the future of our children unborn wch is million times better than that of Jonathan and whoever he might hv combined with

Thank you. Like you, what I hate the most is the current insincerity of some people that sees them act as if they have any genuine interest in voting an APC candidate anyway. These people rising up against Buhari today will be the same, if Fashola becomes APC Presidential candidate, to argue the Lagos governor is not suitable one way or the other. What we all have to recognise is the need to rise above and move beyond the deceit of a people ethnically and religiously devoted to GEJ . They will craft excuses, as they go along, to disqualify and discredit all opponents of GEJ as 'unsuitable' while pretending they are are interested in objectivity. APC supporters should not waste time with these folks.
Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 10:16am On Sep 20, 2014
mikeansy: Lol it's funny how the same people who call others backwards go back 30yrs in history to ask a military dictator who in his time made mockery of everything democracy stands for to stand to be elected President.

Is this your idea of moving Nigeria forward?

Gbawe in the sane country you live, will a character like Buhari go anywhere near the polls as a candidate? Considering Buhari does not even have the decency to appologise to Nigerians for his misdeeds?

Buhari's behaviour in 1979 put this country backward by 20 years! Buhari supporters must remember this when they call others backward!


Dude, I have no time for a back-and-forth with you because you take a position first and then try to make everything fit you preconceived opinion. In so far as you have chosen to support GEJ then you will always interpret Buhari's past actions as wrong and 'disqualifying' him from being President without allowing for the entirely satisfactory and logical argument of how it was a different time and Buhari was not even directly responsible for what people like you accuse him of. You refuse to see the many things Buhari did right also that means his kind is badly needed today.

What you cannot detract from, which is precisley what would be most important to a sophisticated polity, is Buhari's uprightness, immaterial disposition and pro-talakawa stance that is exactly what a nation of opportunistic looters and predatory capitalists needs currently to prevent her becoming a failed State. Yes the nation I live in, full of people who confront reality and look at the big picture pragmatically, will most likely conclude Buhari is a good fit for the 'rescue mission' of today and the reality on the ground currently. Fashola can then replace him and take us to the next level. Jonathan is simply a joker as far as leadership is concerned. Almost anyone is better than a man who does the direct opposite of what is required to deliver solutions to the perennial problems that has kept a nation underdeveloped for decades.

In the Country I live in, people will have moved on from continuing to accuse Buhari of what available evidence show he was not guilty of. They would have rejected conjecture to conclude, on balance of evidence, that Buhari did not overthrow a legitimate government. He was asked and accepted to be head-of-State, as a very senior military officer, after others organised a military putsch to dethrone the government of the day.

Boris Johnson was held up as a bumbling buffoon and alienated by his own political Party yet he defied them and became London Mayor without the support or full endorsement of his Party because Londoners focused on what matters. Londoners looked beyond his eccentric nature to reject all efforts to vilify the man and make him appear unelectable. Stop talking about things you don''t know much about and keep your focus on blindly supporting GEJ and looking for excuses to disqualify all who threaten his 2015 return. Your argument these days fall in the category of those who insincerely proclaim "I don't like GEJ but no one is better so I will support him and reject all others". This is why you reject Buhari by default and finds ways to validate your choice and bias.

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Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 10:03am On Sep 20, 2014
Mogidi:

So having two muslim fundamentalist steering the ship of state is not connected to religion? In your haste to reply you didn't see where I accused the duo of wanting to introduce Sharia? Having sharia in Nigeria would really make Nigeria secular isn't it?

You should actually listen to yourself like you said in your opening gambit, not following that rule exposes your warped perception of reality. The context in which "secular" was used is more than correct.

Shut up you nauseating twerp. Can you prove Buhari and Fashola are "two muslim fundamentalist" or are you just a creature of prejudice and self-deceit? I don't even like talking to you or quoting you as I feel I am engaging a vile racist doing such. There is no way to spin what you wrote. Secularity means that religion does not matter and plays no part in the politics of a nation. In reality, it should then not matter if all political candidates are Moslems, Bhuddists or Catholics. Stop using words you do not know the meaning of in the haste to satisfy the prejudice and discrimination that runs through every cell in your body and permeates every post you deliver here.

Nick Clegg, deputy prime Minister of the UK, is atheist and no one gives a damn. No one rose up to oppose him because he chose to reject all religions. You are here telling us choosing Moslems to vie for important office is an "affront to our secularity" and you continue to talk without recognising you are a confused and prejudiced individual trying to stand very simple logic on its head. Nigeria needs no enemies with folks like you as her 'citizens'. You are an ugly bigot for not recognising that the SW you wish to malign below actually best mirrors the desirable and pivotal best practice concept of separating religion from politics.

People of the SW show a genuine and abiding dedication to genuine secularity, i.e relegating religion to the background, you interpret inappropriately and fraudulently to accommodate your biased and discriminatory predisposition. You are a backward caveman. Go and get some exposure and stop disgracing Nigeria with your 1942 level of prejudice and backwardness.

If the SW wants their governors/deputy to be muslims that's their business, making that idea national is an affront to our secularity, it won't fly.
Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 9:35am On Sep 20, 2014
lanrefront1:

You talk as if you know nothing about politics or the recent state of Nigerian polity at the moment: if APC field Fashola or any other Southerner as President for that matter, then they've already lost the election.

Fashola will not have any vote in the North as Presidential candidate.

Thank you. Because I live, most months of the year, in a nation of some of the most politically sophisticated people in the world I am still surprised at how backwards the so-called 'educated class' are in Nigeria. They are irresponsible, highly selfish, hideously egotistic and myopic. They will only always be found looking vaingloriously at thing from their own perspective when they are the minority by far. They insist everyone think and act like them without understanding that this will set us back at least 50 years because that is the time it will take to get the average Nigerian to be a politically sophisticated individual who makes the right decision always without recourse to self-defeatist bias and prejudice.

for so many reasons I cannot even go into here, the opposition Party is in a position of having to defeating probably the worst ruling Party in the world which has now become adept at dividing Nigerians and playing to their ethnic/religious/sectional biases, prejudices and fear to retain power and relevance. Is this the time for the opposition to embrace naive idealism which only appeals to an educated and truly detribalised/secular elite class who are probably only 5% of the population?

How many votes can Fashola garner in the North full of average voters still not sophisticated or secular enough to understand the concept of putting everything else aside to vote for merit? Is it not best for the most educated in Nigeria to recognise the level our average citizens, constituting by far the largest percentage of our population, are at and side with a formula that can deliver a reality-centred chance of defeating a very useless ruling Party that has destroyed and plundered Nigeria over 15 years?

The only chance, take it or leave it, the APC has of defeating the PDP is to appeal to the North and SW with candidates popular with both regions and arranged in the right order to connect with the simplistic reasoning of most Nigerians which developments in the reality of the past few years has shaped . How many average Northerners, for example, would support Fashola when the perception is that OBJ used 8 uninterrupted years on behalf of the SW slot yet Yar Adua was there for only three years and the Yorubas are now proposing another of there own to be President? whatever the educated elite feel, we are not at that level of sophistication to rigidly and uncompromisingly propose our merit-based thinking carry the day totally without factoring in what majority of the population are ready for and identify with. This is the time educated Nigerians put selfishness and egotism aside to realise great nations were not built with a small and enlightened elite class insisting the majority by far must think and act like them. You always defer to the mood and real level of the political sophistication of the majority. We are trying to get to a level where merit rules and is king in decision-making terms, as obtains worldwide, but we are not there yet and pointless deceiving ourselves otherwise. We could even slow down the march towards a meritocratic society with an elite and educated class that is arrogant, egotistical rigid and unable to put the majority first.

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Politics / Re: A Buhari / Fashola Candidacy 2015 by Gbawe2: 8:42am On Sep 20, 2014
beopened: 90% of all those who are against this good combination are from the other side of the Niger River where Bigotry reigns supreme hence true Nigerians should never be afraid to try something new

Buhari is the fear of all looters and corrupt individuals hence the palpable fear by the elites against him.....

They know they cant pin corruption on him but because the man do not smile......they say he is a fanatic,

Because he does not carry Olosho girls like the rest of them......they say he is too rigid,

Because he does not care about Private Jet.......they say he cant be trusted yet a sincere and open minded Nigerian knows that he is the man we need to help us run the principalities and powers sitting atop Nigeria's destiny into exile

Fashola on the other hand is a smart,suave,debonair dude who has been married to Emmanuela Abimbola for close to 20years. And he has never been known to put a Gun at the back of her head to convert into a Muslim

It is only a mediocre that will be satisfied with the present situation of things in Nigeria

Well-said. To be honest, I don't even bother to comment on threads like this because it will be full of hateful and prejudiced folks with no objectivity whatsoever. You will only encounter people talking crap because of the rigidly 'prehistoric' bias dominating their thinking when others have moved centuries ahead worldwide .

You can easily discern the venomous and bile-driven bias at work. Look at the classic example below with some chap talking about secularity when it appears he does not even know the meaning of the word via suggesting two moslem candidates violates 'secularity'. In a secular nation, because secular means "not connected with religious or spiritual matters", it would not matter if all candidates are Moslems, Christians, Hindu, animist or practitioners of traditional religion. The silly poster manages to actually propagate his devotion to religious bias as a clamour for "secularity". Ridiculous. When you have such rigidly warped reasoning, always turning logic on it head, vocal in these discussions then exposed and focused poster who know what really matter will avoid threads like these. Where has all the focus on religion got Nigeria? You spoke well but don't expect your message will make sense to probably the most backwardly biased, prejudiced and discriminatory people in the world. I personally don't have time to waste trying to sell meat to devoted vegetarians.

Mogidi: A Buhari/Fashola will only be possible if Nigerians actually want Sharia introduced nationwide. Over my dead body for two Quran thumping fundamentalist to rule over me, it won't happen now or in future.
One muslim ruling is bad enough, two occupying the highest positions in the land is dire, it won't happen sha. If the SW wants their governors/deputy to be muslims that's their business, making that idea national is an affront to our secularity, it won't fly.
Politics / Re: PDP Congratulates Scotland Over Outcome Of Referandom by Gbawe2: 11:53pm On Sep 19, 2014
Billyonaire: I would have preferred Independence of Scotland, but the majority has spoken.

Are you Scottish? Just shut up and know your place. You are not going to be affected by the decision of Scottish people and it is only the perpetual secessionist in your sort that makes you think every union must be dismantled.

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Politics / Re: PDP Insists Tinubu Is Sick, Begs Lagosians To Pray For Him by Gbawe2: 1:58pm On Sep 19, 2014
EUROBOMBER:

Lets's hope your oga doesn't go the adekunle way......No more salary ooo....... tongue

Backward follower. It is Friday and I have been listening to sophisticated, informative and issue-based political discussion all day in regards to the Scottish referendum. Alas, once back to Nigerian politics, characters like you and the PDP gossipers quickly bring one back down to earth as per the frivolously backward ALUU-type character of Nigerian leaders and followers. Keep concentrating on Tinubu's health then rather than urge leaders to face weighty issues troubling Nigeria. Your Government is ferrying $10 million around, on a plane leased multiple times, like a criminal gang and some folks only want to gossip about the health of a private individual. Frustrating Country full of frustrating people.

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Politics / Re: PDP Insists Tinubu Is Sick, Begs Lagosians To Pray For Him by Gbawe2: 1:46pm On Sep 19, 2014
Rilwayne001: These PDP really needs prayer oo


Holy Ghost fire come down on them grin grin undecided

Indeed. We can remember that this was how they insisted Aregbesola was "gravely ill" literally after the man was sworn in for his first term as Governor of osun 4 years ago. These acts of pettiness and mindless gossiping are signs the PDP does not host many genuine leaders in its rank.

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Politics / Re: BREAKING: Scotland Has Rejected Independence; Will Remain Part Of United Kingdo by Gbawe2: 11:34am On Sep 19, 2014
Adindupeter: Scotland made their choice via referendum. Let Nigerians make theirs too.

I don't think many Nigerians see and accept the reality of our very sad and backward situation which is that our leaders, because many are glorified self-serving crooks, are disconnected from the people and never to be found acting in their interest. The same leader who will go to the Village to deliver an ethnocentric "other tribes are keeping us down" speech will be the same person fighting tooth and nail at the centre against devolution of power because this works against the stupendous accumulation of wealth him and his cronies, from every ethnic group of Nigeria, are enjoying. Followers are fighting each other along ethnic and religious lines while unscrupulous and corrupt leaders are taking advantage of this to sustain a worthless central arrangement looting Nigeria hideously and impeding the progress of what should be one of the most advanced Nation on Earth and a beacon of hope for the black man.

Who will give Nigerians referendum and allow the results to stand? Who will supervise the devolution of power away from the centre that Nigeria needs badly? Your current greedy leaders chosen by a biased and innately prejudiced people who, unlike the Scots for example, do not even use the right criteria to make choices of leaders who will be willing to fight for what is in the best interest of the electorate? What took place in the UK is the culmination of political sophistication, sincerity and maturity Nigeria is not even close to.

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Politics / Re: BREAKING: Scotland Has Rejected Independence; Will Remain Part Of United Kingdo by Gbawe2: 7:47am On Sep 19, 2014
Eghosa1: This is a lesson for Nigerians clamoring for the dismemberment of our nation. Scotland after 307years still will stay with UK in hope sure of better days. Nigeria has a long road but it is achievable if our leaders eschew corruption, ethnic differences.

My opinion too. We have to go about things the right way in Nigeria. Scotland will now get concessions which presents a better deal for Scottish people while they still remain part of a Nations that is one of the strongest in the world in every regard. What Nigerians should be doing is fighting the inordinate concentration of power and wealth in the centre and not each other. We should agitate for States to have more power and independent control over their own direction and pace of development.

The centre has entrenched us all in mediocrity even inspired State administration struggles to overcome. If we can take on the unwieldy centre and force a change which devolves power more productively to other tiers of our federation then we would be on course to gaining a Country that works well for majority of its citizens to the extent calls for secession would be redundant.

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Politics / Re: BREAKING: Scotland Has Rejected Independence; Will Remain Part Of United Kingdo by Gbawe2: 7:24am On Sep 19, 2014
seunmsg: I hope those calling for the break-up of Nigeria can learn from this scottish referendum. Scotland is far more developed than most of the geo political zones clamouring for independence in Nigeria and still, they voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. If we put our acts together as a country, we are far better off as one big united country. Nigeria must remain a big, united and indivisible union. All we need to make it work is to vote for good leaders based on merit and not tribal/ religious sentiment.


Well-said. Personalised opinion, related to our situation in Nigeria, may blind some to the existential reality of others many Nigerians know nothing about but the bottom line is that Scottish people embraced pragmatism to make their choice. Do you know, as one example only, the average Scottish home would have lost £30,000 of it's value if the yes vote had carried the day? Scotland would have to set up its own armed forces and host its own independent currency which would not be able to leverage on the strength, flexibility and convertibility of the pound sterling.

People need to understand fundamentally that this referendum has the absence of the overwhelming ethnic bitterness and self-defeating hatred which is the case with Nigeria. This is what has shaped the pro separatist/secessionist view of Nigeria that means they don't understand how Scots voted to remain in the union. the bottom line is that Scotland, after all is said and done, voted in favour of what they consider best for them for many reasons. Many Nigerians think others hold them back and will thus always support separation and a break down of Nigeria into smaller ethnically 'cohesive' nations .

Many Scots want independence but many also realise such may represent cutting your nose to spite your face. People refrained from giving in to ego and base hatred of others alone to discern what is also good and productive about the union. Many Scots looked at issues pragmatically and decided they were better off being part of a union they feel, even if imperfect, is a safer and better bet than going it alone. Ultimately, reality set in to show the majority that there is no going back on this once the yes vote for separation succeeds. I did not really have an opinion either way, as I feel it is Scottish folks who should decide what is best for them, but I think the 55% No vote shows people that stakeholders in this matter feel there interests are best served being part of a union.

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Politics / Re: APC Lying About Tinubu’s Health, Says PDP by Gbawe2: 6:14am On Sep 19, 2014
omenka: Most of these people are just misguided kids. Do well to ignore them.

I do most of the time but speak sometimes with the hope some will see the obvious and stop disgracing Nigeria with behaviour others will mock as "backwards" and "unsophisticated". Citizens of most Nations of the world don't spend their time forcefully and uncouthly insisting on things they have no detailed knowledge of.

It is then even more wrong when said issues are the entirely private affairs of others. It is just plain wrong and the behaviour of a very backward and unevolved polity. Sad to see such coming from Nigerians who should be focusing on the misrule destroying their nation instead of obsessing over the health of a man who is effectively a private citizen.

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Politics / Re: Bola Tinubu Returns To Nigeria.... Claims His Trip Was To Learn From Experienced by Gbawe2: 5:55am On Sep 19, 2014
davdandam:
Same way every one accepted what came from the horses mouth concerning oritsejafor and the jet. ...abegi it's Nigeria, every one has freedom of thinking and expression.

That is a different matter. Tinubu's health is a private issue for the man and his family to deal with in so far as he is not your Senator or Governor. People who know their place and understand the limits of decency will agree that the only option is to accept what Tinubu reveals because the man's health is his own private affair same as I cannot forcefully ransack your pocket to see if you indeed have ten Naira, as you claim, since your money has nothing to do with me anyway and I should simply take your word for it and mind my own business.

You cannot compare that to the highly unsavoury situation whereby a jet linked to the leader of CAN is used to ferry almost $10 million to SA which has now being claimed officially by the government of Nigeria which act on the behalf of all Nigerians making them direct stakeholders. Nigeria has a serious issue with corruption and the unlawful diversion/theft of public funds. All Nigerians are stakeholders in this development and can have an opinion over the actions of our Government that has brought Nigeria more disrepute. Tinubu's health, if we are being truthful, is not the business of most Nigerian let alone for anyone to be feeling they have the right to question what the man himself has stated as the official situation. We should learn to respect boundaries, as is done throughout the world, and concern ourselves with what we have a legitimate stake in.

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Politics / Re: Bola Tinubu Returns To Nigeria.... Claims His Trip Was To Learn From Experienced by Gbawe2: 5:44am On Sep 19, 2014
hushmail: why deny being sick?

In 9ja its difficult to find any polithievian his age who is not on medication

How about showing class by giving others the benefit of the doubt when you have nothing tangible to back your suspicion? The man says he is well and you are insisting he is denying being sick when you do not have access to his medical records or anything else that supports your opinion. Why not just accept what has come from the Horses mouth and leave it at that ?
Politics / Re: Nigerian Govt Explanation Unacceptable-south Africa by Gbawe2: 5:36am On Sep 19, 2014
skyfall: Of course it isn't acceptable. There's a clear case of cover-up by the Nigerian govt, not for itself but for the friends of Jonathan who are clearly involved in international criminality.

Indeed. Next minute Nigerians will claim South Africans hate them and malign them as criminals "for no reasons" yet look at the dubious and mafia-like conduct associated with the Government of Nigeria. The whole saga is a huge embarrassment that is just too ridiculous to even reflect on. It can only happen to Nigeria.

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Politics / Re: APC Lying About Tinubu’s Health, Says PDP by Gbawe2: 5:24am On Sep 19, 2014
edetcnn: Has there ever been a time APC didn't lie?

ochilikoko: No wonder they have people like LIAr Ohammed Among them. DESPERADOS

These sort of reply just show the blind and unthinking followership that now confirms that Nigerians are probably one of the most distracted and least politically sophisticated people in the World. Do you guys no longer even try to see let alone side with what is decent any more.

Tinubu, unless you are an APC member, is a private individual who is not currently holding any public office affecting you or anyone else who has commented here. You question and demand information about the health of a political leader if such affects their ability to serve you effectively otherwise mind your own business and give others the privacy you take for granted !!!! It is not just to allow ourselves to be herded into intrusive and callous behaviour by the divisive and indecent politics of enmity Nigerian leaders love to rope their followers into.

Tinubu health is a private affair and his privacy should be respected. The man has said, many times, he is well and what we can all see (which is what a decent and balanced person works with) confirms this. He is not infirm as is routinely rumoured these days and he continues, as far as the eyes can see, to function well. What more does anyone want, since some Nigerians don't accept limits of decency, other than to buy a coffin for a man who is getting on with his life while others wish him illness and death daily? The PDP is now overstepping its boundary to be claiming he must be ill without any evidence whatsoever. Should you guys not be speaking against such antics and malevolent intrusion against any one ? Or is it because it is Tinubu and you are PDP supporters then your personal decency is thrown out of the window? So much pettiness in Nigerian politics lately it is no wonder no one, not leaders or followers, talk about weighty and important issues anymore.

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Politics / Re: Govt Officials Blame The US For Arms Purchase Scandal. by Gbawe2: 5:23pm On Sep 18, 2014
ISpiksDaTroof: Isn't it time Africans demand better from their leaders instead of being sheepish followers of the corrupt elite?


They will never do that. Like 'herded' Cows they will always unite to lay the blame on 'outsiders' and 'foreigners' without the honesty, self-respect, bravery and dignity to see what their own leaders are doing which is far more damaging to Africa than anything/anyone else.

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Politics / Re: Govt Officials Blame The US For Arms Purchase Scandal. by Gbawe2: 11:09am On Sep 18, 2014
Demdem:

Don't mind these fools.
Aliens obviously supplied these ones to us from out of space since America won't allow us to source it from humans.

Don't let these fools get to you. The truth, for pragmatically intelligent critical thinkers across the entire Universe, is that occurrences so far shows that the ruling PDP Party and Government is a divisive and deceptive 'enemy within' antagonist working against the people of Nigeria. Folks should face the economic reality of today to note that Nigeria is absolutely nothing, either way, to the USA currently.

Genuinely intelligent and truthful folks will realise that there is nothing we do for the USA today that can be considered of 'critical importance'. If we do not fool ourselves continuing to focus on past glory, and a time when shale was non-existent and dependence on fossil fuel was not becoming less of an issue daily, then it would be obvious that Nigerians are currently overestimating the importance of their Country and the main 'benefit' (crude oil) we offer to the comity of Nations on earth.

What do we really bring to the table these days for anyone to prop up the theory that others view us a threat to be "destroyed"? If anything, the reality shows that the USA and other Western Nation would be fully committed to preventing Nigeria failing and becoming another very big headache in the fight against a fundamentalist and terror-based ISIS (Islamic State) agenda that is now perceived to be gaining ground dangerously and forcing world leaders to meet urgently. We are dealing with conjecture and hearsay here but the truth is that the only plausible reason the USA will only stop Nigeria buying weapons to fight fundamentalist terror is if the belief is that the Nigerian FG is duplicitous and in cahoot with Boko Haram.

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Politics / Re: Govt Officials Blame The US For Arms Purchase Scandal. by Gbawe2: 8:34am On Sep 18, 2014
Rawani:

My consolation lies in the hope that the the US will be provoked to respond to this audacious allegation by the Nigerian government, and might in the process reveal vital information clarifying the intended purpose of those weapons. Except of course the US Ambassador is as clueless as his hosting president.

Bro, the allegations are not official and I doubt the USA will respond officially. Nonetheless, because all Nations must engage in covert battles to protect national image and interest, some 'unofficial' yet credible information may somehow come to light which puts the USA in a good light and exposes the insincerity/duplicity of the Nigerian ruling Party and Government in it's "war against terror". This may turn out to be a benevolent 'cold war' stand-off in my opinion where supporting actors, and not lead characters, will take centre stage in injurious mud-slinging which will ultimately reveal all the "muck" (EL Rufai 2014).

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Politics / Re: Govt Officials Blame The US For Arms Purchase Scandal. by Gbawe2: 8:10am On Sep 18, 2014
Rawani: I remember when a huge shipment of arms were intercepted at Apapa Port some years ago. The importers were never unraveled, no-one was punished and the final destination of the arms remains a mystery, this can ONLY be done with the collusion of the government. Two months later, BH started using rocket-launchers to attack military barracks. The question then arises about the source of BH arms, since the FG has said the US is policing arms sales, and we know for sure BH arms are not only the ones seized from the barracks as our soldiers have complained of their superior fire-power.

The government seems to have been caught red-handed in trying to change their import method after their failure the first time, and ended up in hotter oil.


Absolutely. Anyone who believes the "human rights abuse" lies is a fool not willing to utilise the numerous historical evidence that shows the USA is ready to side with anything and anyone that helps the nation further her interest and crush perceived dangerous enemies. Did the USA not aid rebels, accused or serious violations of human rights and extra-judicial executions, in the effort to get rid of Muammer Gaddafi?

Nigerians should open their eyes, shun bias, clannish affiliation and prejudice to work with the reality most of us have the intellect to discern and make logical sense of. If the USA is seriously trying to stop the Nigerian Government from buying weapons then it will be because America fears the weapons will land in the wrong hands and strengthen promoters of terror which will ultimately threaten the interest of the USA sooner or later. There is no nation on earth that believes the saying "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" more than the USA. Were Nigeria truly an enemy of Boko Haram in the eyes of the USA then Nigeria would have all the assistance she needs, covert and overt, to crush the Boko boys.

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Politics / Re: Govt Officials Blame The US For Arms Purchase Scandal. by Gbawe2: 7:49am On Sep 18, 2014
If true then Nigerians should know that it is logical the USA views the GEJ government complicit in the Boko Haram saga. The "Human rights violation" excuse is nonsense. This is the USA that concocts "weapons of mass destruction" stories to invade Iraq it believes to be part of an "axis of evil" it must crush. If the USA is blocking the Jonathan-led Government from buying arm then it is because they believe there is no serious effort to fight and crush Boko Haram.

Likely they actually have information and reasons to fear the weapons are being bought for Boko Haram by a rogue 'fly-by-night' government which is secretly aiding a war of terror against her own people for political gains. It does not make sense the USA will ever reject assisting any sincere nation attempting to crush fundamentalist terror that may later become a bigger headache for the USA and her citizens ala ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, AQIM et al. Let us remember this is the same USA that carries out summary execution of terror bosses, with innocent ciivilians affected fatally sometimes, with it drones attack in Nations outside the continent of America.

The USA will work with human rights abusers and even violate human rights herself, albeit covertly, to crush dangerous sworn enemies. It has always being the way for the USA i.e a readiness to do whatever is in the best interest of America. If Nigeria had a sincere government in place genuinely trying to crush Boko Haram then the Nation would have no greater ally than the USA.

I expect more revelations in future that will expose the complicity of influential members of the GEJ Government in their deceitful "war on terror". All what we are hearing now is 'Chicken change' and only the beginning. Is it not how they commissioned Ribadu to 'investigate' the problems of the Petroleum sector only for Ribadu to reveal that the GEJ government is indeed the 'problem' behind the scams, inefficiency and corrupt practices undermining our petroleum sector?

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 6:27pm On Sep 16, 2014
MzJackBaueress: Lolz! grin grin grin


My dear don't mind him ojare. 24 hours in Nairaland 'kirikiri' and he is on the verge of a mental breakdown. How about those Seun has sent to the dungeon till 2035 and even thrown away the keys? Wetin make dem kain people do? commit suicide? These TAN crybabies sef.

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 5:53pm On Sep 16, 2014
MzJackBaueress: So you that was given a ban has good character abi? Only 24hrs ban,you are already crying and hitting your head on the wall and blaming APC supporters for your 24hrs ban.(Typical of cankerworms who do the blame games)

See your life?

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Kai !!!!! Mogbe !!! How many time must I repeat to you people that diaris god oooo. Why una APC supporters wicked like this sef ?

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 5:51pm On Sep 16, 2014
GeneralAdekunle:

grin grin grin grin grin grin

gbawe u no go kill persin oooo

Bro, we must always have compassion for our fellow man nau. Remember the saying "a hungry man is an angry man"? You don sabi now? cool

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 5:44pm On Sep 16, 2014
PhockPhockMan: See them, they're all under ban because of their bad characters.
Where is gbawe?


OP in 'pain' after being sent to Nairaland 'kirikiri' for 24 hours. grin grin grin How dem do you like that nau? Choi, diaris god oooohh. Bruv, you don chop today? Can I buy you some Guguru and Epa? Abi no Boli you prefer?

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 5:23pm On Sep 16, 2014
@OP.

Ndo. Pele. Wipe your tears. E go better you hear. Don't mind these wicked APC boys . They don't know that diaris god oooooo.

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Politics / Re: Avoid This Thread If You're Not PDP /GEJ Supporter. by Gbawe2: 5:16pm On Sep 16, 2014
egift:

Maturity? - Stop drowning us in laughter. Hope you are not referring to the Jobless TANoids I see here? grin grin grin grin grin



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Politics / Re: Give Us Deputy Governor Slot Or Forget Our Votes- Igbo Leaders Tell Lagos PDP by Gbawe2: 12:17pm On Sep 16, 2014
Noneroone: Are u actually pleading that Igbos shouldnt contest for positions in lagos or do u mean it is unlawful?

Non of the above. Any Igbo who is truly Lagosian and accepted to be so, beyond ethnic lines, by other Lagosians is free to contest for lofty Political office. Such a person should defer humbly to every ethnic group that constitute the electorate and his/her character and history should show he/she be ready to serve them without fear or favour.

It should not be about disrespecting the real strength and influence of non-Igbo stakeholders, who are the influential majority by far in reality, while blackmailing them with some ridiculously false and bogus population and economic 'supremacy' statistics you are always bragging about yet not willing to utilise when challenged to do so. The Igbo who will be Lagos Governor or deputy will be one who deserves that position when the time, bridge building, affiliations and cordiality is right and not one who will gain it through the blackmail and threats of those who are prone to over-estimating their own importance, ability and strength because they assume they appear better than others by doing this.

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Politics / Re: Answer:What Buhari Does For A Living by Gbawe2: 11:24am On Sep 16, 2014
barcanista: You are a miserable fellow for calling Pensioners "liabilities". In sane society your type are lumped together with terrorists and fired at. Only useless folks like you won't know that Pensioners are Assets to any society and are aCcorded respect even at death. You miserable lot don't know that Buhari left Army as a Major General and the benefit of ex Major Generals is mouth-watering till death. He was living on that before the Act of 2010 came into force that made him, Obasanjo(since 1999) and co to forfeit their military benefits. Your problem is greed mentality and money worship. You people believe money is everything and hence, your desperation and thievery.

Fvck off my mentions if you have nothing else to say!!!!

Meanwhile: Go and Read about the '83 coup or create a thread and I will engage you. Stop exposing your ignorance cum bigotry

Absolutely correct 100% !!! When or where in the world has it become the norm to hate and vilify pensioners? Pensioners can only be "free-loaders" and "parasites" to disgustingly myopic, vainglorious and materialistic people with a disloyal and 'money above everything else' disposition to members of society who have paid their dues.

Were they not the only people, perhaps in the entire universe, who had a problem with Aregbesola providing free school meals for Osun School children under an initiative lauded and encouraged by technocrats from very rich and stable nations? I am no longer shocked by the ugly and aberrant character of some ill-exposed Nairalanders and 'cavemen'. They deserve pity only for their backward materialism and lack of depth.

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