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SIRcumalot:
if we get Jose and he wins us a title in his first two years he is staying.
till he croaks Or retires like SAF.

This is quite a big thing to say given that Jose always wins the league title in his 1st or 2nd year after he gets appointed everywhere he has been.

nonsoroyalty:
while i agree appointing jose is a step to the right direction, i also don't think he's going to be a long term success.

No excellent coach currently would last long term or bring long term success. It was that kind of deluded thinking that landed us Moyes in the first place when we tried to replicate SAF. Pep was even my 1st choice to replace LVG but that option is gone and even Pep won't do more than 3 years so to death with this long term bullsh.it.
After Mourinho's appointment, the management must create a good system and set everything in order for us achieve our goals but with Mourinho, these acts are just faster or easier. I mean i want us to get run the way Bayern or Barca for example is run, such ruthless efficiency at getting the right things done and setting plans for long term success and that would enable us replace managers easily if(or once) Jose starts acting up. However i can predict things can go differently and Jose might even end up staying long term.

nonsoroyalty:
lol so you guys think mounrinho is coming to the OT? Same way ramos bale and co were coming, don't let the media get ur hopes high
As much as i want united to get back to glory i can bet my left balls that lvg is staying.

I can't stand one more year with LVG and most United folks i know too can't. I mean the man just has to leave. Mourinho coming to United is more than just speculation or ordinary media rumors. The club has not come out to deny it's off and Mourinho hasn't done any similar either as far as i know. Infact by now, i believe a pre contract has been signed already because i don't think Jose or his agent Mendes is foolish enough to have their fate tied to LVG's little success (making top 4 and/or winning the FA club) or failure. LVG is a goner believe me and i'm telling you this not because i don't want you to lose your left balls( i could care less about your balls) but because you said you want United to return to glory and Jose's appointment would be a step in the right direction.

sebod:
You obviously didn't get the point bro.
Mou got to Chelsea and spent big to bring in proven players, he won some tittles albeit not winning it all, he's termed a genius.

While Pep inherited a poor team who had no confidence left in them after finishing 3rd on the log, sent away the super stars, built a fresh team and won it all in style. He's just a good coach.

His time at Chelsea though excellent is not as impressive as what he achieved in Inter or Porto and if he's regarded as a genius, his time at those clubs i mentioned are more likely the reason and he had a relatively low net spend at those clubs than Chelsea so i got the point well bro.

Pep is not just good but a very good coach. BTW it's not exactly what i'm debating here.

dmcdad:
There is no debate about this... Valdes' career is all but over. As painful as it is, it's the reality. One of those things that happen in life. But then, he can take solace from the fact that he has won everything there is to win as a footballer.

Make him just find one yeye small club dey keep before him retire jare.

You guys should come and take him abeg. He's on heavy wages and we already have a good 2nd keeper in Romero who hardly complains about anything. He would be a good cover for Bravo when ter stegen leaves or he could even end up the 1st choice in Barca when he causes trouble for you guys, who knows really?

raumdeuter:
Guy na by force? abeg free me. dmcdad described you properly.

Wow. are you really begging? Please spare me your capitulation. This a forum, a public one at that and i reserve the right to address any post i wish to especially when it's from you. Dmcdad made a good observation but the conclusion was far off. It's true i have been replying your posts and it's not due to an obsession with you or anything but because of the content of these posts of yours. When you stop posting lies as facts, shape shifting and stop being so hypocritical, there would be less posts for me to address. Do this or stop posting at all, i don't care but i would keep on doing the right thing regardless.

In the last 24hrs you have been described as above, Why dont you just get off my trail and go play somewhere I'm busy

In those hours you came on the United thread posting complete thrash about United's greatest manager ever and you expected me to let you go just like that and not reply you?
What has Pep even achieved with you guys compared to what Fergie did with United but currently you're making so many posts in a short period to defend him and you expected me not to do same earlier?
I believe your hypocrisy would end soon but obviously it's not today.

Raumdeuter, we both know how this is gonna end up if you keep this up. I have told you already, you are in no position to judge me and you would only get yourself into a mess. I would ignore your irrelevant posts with no substance though.

raumdeuter:
Chelsea finished second in 04, made the CL semi On top of that the

Next season got Mourinho(A CL winning coach) spent the most money in Europe bought Drogba(one of the best strikers in Europe) bought carvalho, Bought Cech, Paolo Ferreira, Arjen Robben

Chelsea were spending money and no one in Europe could match them

So now spending money or signing players is now your criteria or determinant in achieving success? Just listen to yourself. You are the same dude who goes about dissing EPL clubs for spending so much with little to show for it and now you are using that same premise conversely to argue that Chelsea were the strongest then because no one could match them financially.
I'm not surprised this is coming from you. The hypocrisy left unchecked in your past is always coming to hurt you.

Nihilist:
Gbaski

The thing Is Pep is definitely a good coach.

There is not doubt about this though. One could give the team he used to someone else with all factors/variables remaining constant and the that individual might not achieve even half of what he did. To this he deserves a lot of credit but when it's a stretch too far to argue it's not debatable.

raumdeuter:
Let people who understand what they are typing and have a deeper knowledge of the game post you can stay by the sidelines or pick your size

I see you're still butt hurt regards previous debates you got schooled in. Don't worry; i won't rub it your face, but i would advise you move on from it as i have done.

raumdeuter:
Between 2004 and 2007 How many teams were stronger than Mourinhos Chelsea

Arsenal were just coming off from a record season and and Ancelloti's Milan were still dominant in Europe

between 2011 and 2013 how many teams were stronger than Mourinhos Madrid

Barcelona were still definately stronger.

No one expected Barca of 2009 who have finished trophyless 18points behind league leaders and sold their superstars to make a domestic sweep

I believe you meant 2008 here and Madrid their major rival were not exactly excellent. Their struggles in Europe show that but Barcelona's incompetence then made them appear better then.

Chelsea was favourite for every title in England from 2005-07 they were favoirite to win in 2015, Inter was favourite to win the Serie A every season Mourinho was there

The entirety of this is false.

you can disprove any of these assertions

You have made very good points though and there's no guarantee mine would stand.

afrodoc2:
You can tell this to those too young to remember 2009 Dayo.
That 2008 semi final was so tight and we had to play nearly perfect football to scrape through, that Barca team in 09 was surely top 5 and I was full of trepidation before the final

Good you said this. Fergie with a strong United team then had to play very defensive to go through. Basically the Barcelona pre Pep wasn't mediocre exactly; it was more of a case of underachieving though Pep deserves credit for a lot of other things.

chrisley024:
Problem is that Valencia is poor in aerial ball; Darmian is better at that.

Are you exactly sure about this? I have a memory of some matches where we conceded a goal from a set piece due to Darmian marking his man poorly and LVG replaced him with Valencia subsequently. I might be wrong though but i really doubt Darmian is that much better than Valencia in aerial balls and if actually he is, then it not substantial enough.

dmcdad:
Ns Standard Liege cancel am. Them say them wan give opportunities to their younger players.

bykebyke:
The younger players be babies when them come for the loan?

You guys are right. He's is in Manchester currently. My guy don hear am. If he was really that good, he would have gotten better options to choose from and not be in this mess. He has burnt all his bridges with LVG, and there's no coming back from that. If LVG goes, he's still gonna have to face Mourinho and i doubt Jose would have forgiven him for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxiszACcysY

SIRcumalot:
make we see kAnte for another season before we buy am,
THE FA go soon test Kante especially,and everybody for Leicester city for bAnned substance.

Bros so you no trust these guys ?

Eruditor:
This is 10 Zimbabweean dollars worth of piffle.

Your drivel is worthless to me. More substance and less of this please.

1.The semi finals are not KO stages? How did he get them past that? This must be the season for dumbo clats.

2. Why do I need to downplay beating Lyon, Auxerre, Tottenham and then failing to Barca, Bayern, Dortmund as achievements? Is this mediocrity o clock? So the Pep that has been reaching semis is doing less a job considering that since Mou left RM someone else has won La decima and there have been back to back semis for them but since Pep left Barca the same cannot be said.

You don't know what you are on about. Madrid was a disgrace in those past 7 years before he brought sanity to that team in Europe. The galaticos policy preceded Mourinho and they still didn't have success in Europe in those periods. Mediocrity was Madrid getting rap.ed 4-0 by ordinary Liverpool and getting knocked out by Lyon even with the funds plunged. It's not a stretch to far to say if Jose hadn't improved Madrid by getting them to the semis, Ancelloti would have found it more difficult winning the CL. Do you really need me to explain this to you?

3. 2nd Trial, 3rd trial, needless bloviations. He flopped one season. Added 7 players and did well. Big deal again. Pep inherited a Barca that needed to play qualifiers to be in the UCL and made them sextuple winners same season.

This your sorry attempt to save face won't fool anyone. You lied when you stated he improved them in his 3rd trial when he didn't even have a 3rd season. How he did it or what Pep did is not what is up for discussion, so stop pontificating aimlessly. He improved them in Europe, simple. Point proven, so move on.

4. The emboldened is Kevin Hart material. I see you carefully inserted the word ALMOST to do damage control to your earlier brain-fart of an assertion. Good enough you stood to take the correction.

This does not change my initial assertion. He improves his team in Europe. It's very simple. He doesn't take a team from making finals regularly to semi finalist. If he takes over a team making finals or who had just previously won the CL, it's not too difficult to infer he would have one at least one or or made the finals in 2 years. This is a simple inference from a fact but too bad we can't say the same about Pep.

5. Again with the dumb hypotheticals which seems to be your thing. He took a RM squad constituting of atleast top 2 players in each position and went to back to back semis. But the illogic you guzzle as water wants to make you believe he will suddenly be reaching finals consistently with Bayern when he could not do it with a better RM team.

What better Real team? The one that couldn't go past the round of 16 for about 7 years until he came? or the Bayern one that made 3 CL finals in 4 years, reached two finals consecutively and who had just won the CL when he took over? Logic has failed you here.
Again, it's obvious you find it so difficult to go against my analysis that's why you keep behaving like a straw man. Nobody even asked you for this explanation but you just invent it to debate because you are actually so empty regards the argument involved.

So pray tell, why didn't he take UCL winners of 2012 to another final with all the resources at his disposal? Why was he hell-bent on getting them relegated instead? Why didn't he break the jinx of consecutive semis with an expensively assembled RM team and get to 1 final?

Don't be silly. Are you saying Chelsea were the CL winners when he came in? This is false. The same Chelsea that got knocked out in the group stages of the CL in Europa. This was the event in the CL that preceded his appointment and when he came in, he took that team to the semis of the CL and this is an improvement again, so i know exactly what i'm talking about here.

There was only one jinx which was the inability of Madrid to get past the round of 16 and he broke it at his first attempt so you had nothing there again.

Mehn, hit control +S on your BS ideologies about Mou and what he could have achieved for someone who cares and believes in ifs and maybes.

I'm not trying to compare Pep and Jose because because it's obvious Pep has achieved so much in little time and he deserves a lot of credit for that so stop making this argument seem like that. Infact I'm bored of this debate already because we still haven't gone beyond the obvious.

Eruditor:
Butthurt.

1. Mou always improves his team in Europe- No he doesn't. Ranieri had been to a semis with less of a team.

He got Chelsea to the semis too.

2. RM weren't getting past group stages prior to Mou- lies. They had played at least 3 2nd round games prior to him.

When i said knock out stages, i didn't mean group stages. I meant the round of 16 and my assertion was right. Clearly comprehension isn't your forte. Madrid were actually unable to get past the round of 16 for about 7 years. 7 fe.cking good years. Mourinho comes in and in his first year he takes them to the semis and they got consistent in reaching the semis. I don't see how you can possibly downplay this.

3. Mou improved in Inter in Europe, after 3 tries and 7 signings.

This is another lie concocted by you. He improved Inter in his 2nd trial where he went past the knock out stages and won the CL(not after his 3rd trial as you falsely claimed). He didn't even have a 3rd season in Inter and it seems you have no idea of what you are talking about.

4. If he had been at Bayern. Hopeless hypotheticals. He had more resources at RM- zero finals. Great resources at CFC- no finals.

I'm not making up conjectures by saying ''would have been''s. My argument has always been he almost always improve every team in Europe and i still stand corrected. He would not take a Bayern squad that reaching the finals regularly and make them regulars customers for finalist or winners of the CL.

Any more illogic to peddle?

There's no need to ask me for this when you've been doing a great job yourself considering the post i just quoted.

Spy360:
Jose plays counter-attacking football, same as Simeone. Counter-attacking football is a defensive minded tactic.

Majority of the games (for example in the league) are played against lesser opposition teams where Jose's teams don't necessary play counter-attacking football and have considerable possession stat. A few big games against top opposition where he gets more defensive does not make his actual football style counter attacking.

You do not need to insult to drive your point.

Please point out the insult i directed at you. I have been very patient in explaining to you and it would do you a whole lot of good to appreciate this instead of telling lies.

Eruditor:
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Mourinho fanboys and illogic.

1. Mou played 3 seasons in spain he won just a league title. Pep had 4 seasons and won 3. When Pep was winning the 3 you people said it was because Barca was a good team. Okay, Mou had an equally good RM team and couldn't win it more than once. So help me extrapolate it into Bayern. Because I don't even remember Jupp winning league titles back to back and he went 2 and a half seasons there.

2. Mou is in Chelsea. Flops the first season. We can forgive him. Then he wins the league and Carling cup the following year- Hurrah! Season after he takes the SAME team and is on course to relegating them, that he has to be fired by his bosses. With the same self-serving and rehashed illogic, what is to stop Mou from taking a title winning Bayern side and almost relegating them?

3. Again with this hopeless BS about him taking Chelsea to a semis in his first stint. Ranieri had just done same the season before with a squad that wasn't as great as Mou's Chelsea. And with Inter (We must Praise Mou for this) but how many seasons did he see a semi final with them? You guessed it...ONCE after 2 abysmal tries.

4. Bayern played a final 2009-10. Flopped the next year. Got to a final against a weak Chelsea side ahome and flopped again (if this had been Pep he would have been crucified). Then won it the following year (praise Jupp for this). Pep played RM in 13-14, played Barca 14-15 and lost both ties. Big deal. What I am yet to comprehend is how Mou would have gotten through one of either semis? Was he going to beat Carlo's RM or Luchos Barca? If he could, then Chelsea should have gotten to the final in both years because the eventual winners basically thrashed the 2 teams that knocked him off.[/s]

I don't want to derail this thread with long posts over nothing. Mou almost relegated previous champions. That's his legacy.

I'm not interested in derailing this thread so i would ignore the major part of your post which is irrelevant. I don't know how this your post is a reply what you quoted.
You have failed to address any of the points i raised instead. It's very simple. Mourinho always improves his team in Europe and this is a fact which you failed to disprove. I'm not interested in his legacy or whatever and if you can't address the point i raised, fine. Maybe i just expected too much.

Eruditor:
As for Mou and Carlo, it is quite funny. Carlo could not get past the Quarter finals UCL since 2008 until 2014 and he didn't win a league title in Spain. Mou went trophyless 2014, did well 2015 and almost got his team relegated in 2016. If you feel these are the coaches to win the same amount of trophies with Pep in Bayern, then there's no point debating it.

Bros, i don't know about Ancelotti but i'm sure you would agree that Mourinho would have won those league titles Pep has managed to win. In Europe, Mourinho improves every single team he has taken over. He transformed a then ordinary Porto to win the Europa, then they won the CL the next season. He took Chelsea to the semis in his first stint. He dragged Inter to the finals and won the competition. Madrid had not got past the knock out stages in the CL for about 6 years but Jose took them to the semis in his first year and they got to at least the semis in every single year he was there. I could go on but what i'm implying is that he simply improves every single club performances in Europe.

Bayern played two consecutive CL finals, or played 3 CL finals in 4 years, or won the CL by the time Pep took over but he hasn't been able to go past the semis so it's not too far to infer that Mourinho would have gotten to the CL finals at least or won 1 if he had been at Bayern given the same resources/conditions that Pep has benefitted from Bayern, so A40 knows exactly what he's talking about and there's a point debating it.

dmcdad:
That's the problem with you... Like I stated, you are always in a haste to bring out something from nothing, trying to make a mountain outta a mole hill and thereby losing your sense of complete reasoning. No offence on this, but that's the truth. Now tell me how I implied Simeone parks the bus less than Mourinho from the quoted posts. Tell me! That's what I am saying, you need to look before you leap!

I told initially i didn't want to have this argument but you said i should go on. Now i proved exactly what i meant and you are going south. Sorry if i misrepresented what you said wrongly or i but i addressed your major point.

dmcdad:
That's a lie! He doesn't park the bus against average teams. He attacks, but like raumdeuter rightly stated, he doesn't do that the way Barça, Bayern, Madrid or even PSG does, but in a sorta controlled manner. He does it without losing the shape of the team.

Simeone finds it difficult against average teams too because his teams teams are not attacking enough even when they need to be. The matches against Malaga or PSV in CL are cheap examples when Atletico finds it difficult to break down lesser sides and there are various more. The poster you replied to with this post was right when he said Athletico default mode is parking the bus and you disagreed with that. It's true.

Someone said Mourinho only did it in his first stint with Chelsea, and I pointed out that he did it a couple of times last season, precisely against the big boys. How that translates to Mourinho parking the bus more than Simeone is beyond me. Gosh!

Again i apologized if i misrepresented your words by stating you meant Jose parks the bus more often but my initial reply was not far off.

Plus, my last sentence in the second post you quoted stated and and kinda reaffirmed what the person I quoted said about not judging Simeone since he operates a team who are considerably on a very low budget compared to other top sides. Or you wanna tell me this ain't true too?

Finally, the argument wasn't about who parked the bus more, but about the fact that both do the park-the-bus thingy, but Mourinho operated or rather had a star-studded side to work with (in both stints at Chelsea and Madrid and even Inter) as against what Simeone has.

No?

When Mourinho was at Porto, he had a limited budget to work with too but his team was still more attacking than this current atletico. He won the CL parking the bus along the way with Porto (something Simeone is still even yet to achieve) but he still get criticized for it by some folks while these same folks are full of praises for Simeone. It's hypocrisy and it's not fair. He had a limited budget to work with at Inter too and he only played defensive against vastly superior sides so i won't even go further regards this.
I remember Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea differently. It was extraordinary and far from defensive. I thought Fergie had lost it. You don't win the win by record points(95) with parking the bus. He won the league with over 90 points again the following season. In his 2nd stint at Chelsea he didn't have same quality personnel and didn't win the league until the following season and i remembered Chelsea played very good football in the first half of that season goals flowing but in the 2nd half of the season with injuries to some key players and some getting out of form, Mourinho got more defensive or should i say pragmatic and it was the right thing to do because he steadied Chelsea to the title. In Madrid he the same thing in similar circumstances.
I agree he's more defensive in the big games generally and i don't really have a problem with that as long as he gets a result. Fergie in his late years at United got more defensive or pragmatic in Europe and nobody criticized him for it because it brought more success; an excellent United played defensive in 2008 against a relatively weak Barcelona to get a result and go past, then were rewarded with a CL title. Our away games generally during that period were usually boring because we played so defensively.
I don't take pleasure in arguments and if you don't see things this way, then you have a problem with me that i cannot help you with.

Spy360:
I wonder why people can be so assuming...

It was Mou himself who coined the term 'park bus'. Anyone who thinks Mou doesn't play defensive is either being silly or simply does not understand football dynamics.

No one is debating who coined the term or it's origin here. It's irrelevant and when he used the term it wasn't to describe how his teams play but it was used to label the opposition team he faced then

That a team score many goals does not imply they are attacking. Arsenal for example is an attacking side but has scored less goals among the top 4. Leicester on the other hand play tight has has more goals than every other PL side.

Goals scored is one very effective way to measure or determine team's gameplay, strength or position. It's no coincidence that the teams with most goals or the best attacking teams are almost always in top position of the table.
You are clearly confused and misguided here. It's one thing to attack, and it's another to attack effectively. Arsenal only does the former coupled with consideration possession stats and they are labelled an attacking team albeit they are a poor man attacking club. Man city or Tottenham's attack obviously have performed better than Arsenal's this season and you're even an Arsenal fan; it's normal for you to sound biased and appear deluded. Also Leceister have fewer goals than Man city or Tottenham so stop telling lies as facts. I don't even know why i quoted this nonsense you posted.

dmcdad:
I guess your obsession with DK is the cause of this. Hence, your thinking.
Quote me on what I said and in what regards I said it, and let's see who will get exposed. It seems you are just thinking everyone is as myopic as you and can be exposed. Besides, I don't see how stating a fact can expose someone. If anyone can be exposed here, it's you.
I guess you didn't get the argument from the get go, hence your responses. Don't always be in a hurry to wanna expose someone, when you are the one to be exposed. I just don't have time digging up where this started, and I can assure you that you quoted me wrongly.
Please I don't have time for merry-go-rounds. Maybe you do. It's tiresome how everytime some of you wanna argue about everything, even when it's unnecessary. You can continue your argument with DK, I don't have a problem with that.

I don't have obsession/problem with Dayo or anybody. You are only seeing what you want to see. I knew exactly what i was saying and i would prove it now.

dmcdad:
That's a lie! He doesn't park the bus against average teams. He attacks, but like raumdeuter rightly stated, he doesn't do that the way Barça, Bayern, Madrid or even PSG does, but in a sorta controlled manner. He does it without losing the shape of the team.

dmcdad:
His second season, which was last season, he parked lots of busses. Against United, City, Assnal; these I am very sure of.
As for your last sentence, exactly why we shouldn't be talking about this in the first place.

Those are your previous posts regards Simeone and Mourinho on this thread . You are asserting that Mourinho parks the bus more often than Simeone and this is false.
In every league Mourinho has managed, his teams have always scored considerable number of goals almost always in the top 3 highest. It's only against top opposition or in the major games he gets very cautious/defensive and unfortunately these are the most viewed or popular games, so most folks find it easy to label him defensive. Mourinho hardly finds it difficult against usual opposition teams or breaking down lesser teams and they get destroyed more often than not. It's the converse with Simeone who has a problem sometimes breaking down those kind of teams and his teams score far fewer goals generally than Jose's. Athetico have an unsually high amount of clean sheets especially relative to the number of goals scored and these stuff don't come cheaply. These are facts you can verify and i could give you enough examples over a good sample space to build on.

In general, Simeone is a far more defensive coach than Mourinho. No amount of revisionism can change that. You might not his personality or his acts but it's sheer hypocrisy to condemn him for it and praise another individual for something similar.

bykebyke:
It is reported we have right of first refusal.But our current Board no too get sense.

Your board might not be to blame. I'm sure you guys are quite short of cash and have outstanding contracts and other payments to make so spending on new players is not gonna be exactly easy. That's why priorities exist but if you guys could let go off some players or reduce your wage bill, then just maybe and most likely reinforcements/replacements would be brought in.

dmcdad:
And you think everyone is like a noob just as you?

Stop messing yourself. If my argument is correct, admit it and if it's wrong, point it out. Stop making yourself seem wise and intelligent when you are not. Comments like the above doesn't speak well of you. I'm telling you what I know, you are telling me about Dayo.

I don't know what you're on about with this post. I clearly stated the assertion you are pushing with Raumdeutеr is wrong and you were using him as reference. I have done nothing wrong with this.

Abeg, comot for road make I pass jare. And don't bother mentioning again because I wouldn't want someone who would rather not face facts but resort to some silly excuses when he sees one (fact).

It's funny you're asking for facts when they won't even back you up. Clearly I'm not interested in the argument with you and that's why I told off lightly but you are taking it wrongly and I assure you that should I quote those your previous posts, you would get exposed and these ''facts'' you are requesting for would be against you.

dmcdad:
That's a lie! He doesn't park the bus against average teams. He attacks, but like raumdeuter rightly stated, he doesn't do that the way Barça, Bayern, Madrid or even PSG does, but in a sorta controlled manner. He does it without losing the shape of the team.

You are basing your opinion on the nonsense Dayo stated and you think you are making sense. If you go on with this, you would get exposed soon and he won't be able to save you either.

TheNonce:
Kindly ignore that _moron?

You're right; I won't reply him regards this exact debate any further.

raumdeuter:
Who doesn't know we are talking about man utd here

I guess we have to spell everything out to the low IQ posters here

In Fergie man utd adventure in the CL he win twice in 26 yrs reign

You have shifted the limits of the arguments but you are still wrong again. Here's your initial post.

raumdeuter:
I guess comprehension is the problem here.
I'm responsible for only what I post not what you do out don't understand
Fergie was knighted fit his achievement in man utd
His total achievements in Europe was 2 cl titles

With United in Europe he won the UEFA Cup winners' in 1991 and European super cup again, then won the CL in 1999 and 2008.

So how is the total of his achievements even with United in Europe 2 CL ?

You don't know when to run, do you?

raumdeuter:
I guess comprehension is the problem here.

I'm responsible for only what I post not what you do out don't understand

The point in your post was very obvious/clear so it's funny now you are feigning ignorance. That's why i would let this pass now. Don't say such nonsense next time.

Fergie was knighted fit his achievement in man utd

His total achievements in Europe was 2 cl titles

You shouldn't have said this because you would be made to look like a fool again. Fergie had achieved success in Europe even before he became United's manager. He won the UEFA Cup winners' with a final against Real Madrid in 1983 and followed it up with the European super cup. In fact Fergie holds the record for the most decorated manager in Europe along side Ancelloti and one other bloke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UEFA_club_competition_winning_managers

Therefore Fergie's total achievement in Europe was not 2 CL. Such a shame you didn't know this either.

bykebyke:
We should Better Get Saul this Summer.

I really rate him and i think he would improve any team's midfield. It was reported that we matched his release clause in January but he didn't want to leave Atletico, and i wish you guys better luck getting him.

A40, your recent posts are beautiful. I'm glad you are seeing things differently as you are putting Bayern first which is very important. Regardless the tie is not over and Bayern can still go through.

raumdeuter:
Aside being dumb in football matters You have just proven your English is also below 2nd grade level

Fergie was knighted for his achievements while in Man Utd. So how this semi retardd started cluthching to some non existing straws is beyond me

Fergie was knighted
Fergie won 2 CL
Fergie was in charge for 26yrs

Now continue your show of shame and disgrace yourself further

Now you are pretending to have issues with comprehension. Logic has failed you and your reasoning has deserted you.
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Accept your goof, and move on. It's now a regular occurrence for you.

raumdeuter:
Whats thisone saying? If you have no sense then step aside

Fergie spent about 26yrs in Man utd fact
fergie won 2 CL facts
fergie was knighted fact
Fergie got sodomized in 2 finals by Pep facts

Like I always say, I would bludgeon you to death with facts

I knew you just wouldn't let go until you are disgraced completely. You stated Ferguson got knighted because he won 2 CLs and that is the only post of your's i addressed so stop pontificating like you always do. This was your initial post below that got you into trouble

2 UCL medal is enough for him same number the greatest manager in Man Utd history won after being in charge for 26yrs that got him knighted

Calm down and watch how i expose your lies.
Fergie got knighted in 1999 after the treble success. He had won just 1 CL then. He won his 2nd CL in 2008. So how did he get knighted because he won 2 CL?

It's a shame you parade yourself as someone who knows facts when actually you are just a fraud.

raumdeuter:
2 UCL medal is enough for him same number the greatest manager in Man Utd history won after being in charge for 26yrs that got him knighted

Ferguson got knighted towards the end of the 20th century and he did not win his 2nd CL until 2008 so clearly you're saying shi.t.

Bob Paisley was only guy to have won 3 major european cups or the CL equivalent until Ancelloti managed the same feat two years ago. Paisley never got knighted.

Don't be silly.

raumdeuter:
I disagree. I had the argument on the Chelsea thread once, and Simeone only parks the bus vs sides that are superior on paper

When they played Chelsea in 2014 semi finals. They dominated possesion 70% at Calderon and minus vs Barca Madrid Bayern they do attack other teams

But in a controlled way not all out attack like Barca, Bayern and Madrid

How did Ancellotti's Madrid beat Pep's Bayern in 2014? Was the Madrid squad cheap or did they have less mega stars?

I'm really impressed with your obsession regards 'bus parking' but it's obvious you are going about this the wrong way.