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Christianity EtcRe: UNBELIEVABLE! DISGRACEFUL! Nairaland Atheists see nothing wrong with Bestiality by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:04pm On Jul 26, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Please answer my question , if you were in any of those countries were bestiality is legalized would you allow your daughter have sex with animals ? Yes or No ?
An adult in those countries does not need parental consent to have sex with animals
Christianity EtcRe: UNBELIEVABLE! DISGRACEFUL! Nairaland Atheists see nothing wrong with Bestiality by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:02pm On Jul 26, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
So you mean if you were Canadian or a Hungarian you would allow your daughter have sex with an animal ?
Firstly, a parent has control over the actions of their offsprings until they attain the legal age of adulthood. Secondly, most forms of sexual intercourse are forbidden for humans under the legal age of consent and I am certain that even in Canada children are not allowed to have sex with animals.

Now, in civilised countries when kids attain the age of consent, a parent cannot control their life choices including their sexual preferences. If my child attains adulthood and decides to engage in legal bestiality, my approval or lack of it does not change anything.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible And Slavery: Answering Ignorant Atheists by GeneralShepherd(m): 11:36pm On Jul 25, 2016
Is it that Christians fail to understand the basic tenets of human rights or is it a case of biblical infallibility? When some can buy and sell you, whether as ebad, slave, bondsman, servant etc, you have lost your humanity dignity as you have been reduced to the worth of property.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible And Slavery: Answering Ignorant Atheists by GeneralShepherd(m): 11:31pm On Jul 25, 2016
dalaman:
It actually gets worse for him. Selling people into bondage was allowed. The Jewish Encyclopaedia clearly states it. As for the beating of slaves, it is permitted as long as you do not injure or kill them. If you beat them and they die same day then it will be seen as murder and avanged as such but if they die the next day then it will not be seen as murder.

If he smites him or her so as to cause death on the same day, the deed is avenged as a murder; but not when death ensues on a subsequent day (Ex. xxi. 20, 21, 26, 27).


This is what this deluded winner01 is comparing to house help in our modern world. This guys are just pathetic.
Also, the idea of househelps is wrong in itself and rightly condemned by sensible human beings. Every househelp in Nigeria should be paid at the least the minimum wage and must be older than 18, but our lawmakers are so stupid they can't even enact meaningful laws.

However, it pales in comparison to the servitude suggested in the bible
Christianity EtcRe: Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me by GeneralShepherd(m): 6:30pm On Jul 09, 2016
Dejideji1:
I have been carefully following your replies to tempem, but after reading this particular one, i felt the urge to cut in.

You said, everything will die, agreed. But there is something you are not sensitive enough to note, or chose to ignore. In the latter part of your reply above, haven't you noticed the cycle and intricate interdepence in nature?

Pls how can we account for those cycles and interdependence if an intelligent mind is not behind it? If everything came into being by chance and not by design as science believe, then the earth and the universe at large would be in a state of chaos.

Just take a look around you and see the orderliness in nature.
I disagree with the claim that the universe or the earth is orderly. Stars in the universe explode often destroying things within proximity and sometimes though birthing new stars. The earth is constantly plagued with catastrophic random events like earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions, in a perfectly designed systems such events should not happen as they seemingly serve no purpose other than mayhem and destruction.
EducationRe: NECO Math Questions Some Teachers Couldn't Solve by GeneralShepherd(m): 8:54am On Jun 29, 2016
Laive:
Let me try one Question at a time.
Solution
Let the son's age be:
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x
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Therefore, father's age:
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5x
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Four years ago, if we multiply their ages, we would get:
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5x = 448
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From here, the son's age becomes:
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x = 448/5
x = 89.6

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Therefore, 4 year ago, son's age was:
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89.6
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4 years have passed, we'll add extra 4 years to the son's age:
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89.6 + 4 = 93.6
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Therefore, his son is currently 93.6 years old (more like 93years and 6 months).
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From the question, we were told that the man is 5 times older than his son.
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Therefore, we will multiply the son's age by 5 to get the man's age 4 years ago:
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5 x 93.6 = 448
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The man was 448 years in the last 4 years.
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4 years have passed, his present age will be:
448 + 4 = 452
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Ophuh
Wrong....

Man's age - 5X

Son's age - X

Four years ago the product of their ages (not the son's age) was 448

(x-4) (5x-4) = 448
5x^2 - 24x - 432 =0
Using the quadratic formula

X= 12 or X= -7.199

As we know age cannot be negative so the son's age is 12 years.

The father's age is 60 years
Christianity EtcRe: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:03pm On Jun 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
SonOfLuicfer , no matter how your brothers in faith twist its meaning , everyone shows faith .

Evolution - microbes to man , is the exhibition of faith . Microevolution is observed while macroevolution is not observed , no one witnessed that transformation but you are certain that micro-evolution over eons of time will result to macro-evolution is faith.

Your belief that microbes - simple cells - transformed to intelligent conscious dexterous man over millions of years is in fact a giant leap of faith .
For the umpteenth no part of Science relies on faith and that includes the theory of evolution. All science theories have been evaluated through years of thorough research on the off chance a theory is proven false in the future it will be completely rejected.


While scientists may place faith in a scientific theory, their faith is based on past evidence. For example, all scientists have faith that the Law of Thermodynamics will hold true during an experiment because there is overwhelming past evidence to support this belief. This is completely different than placing faith in a religious belief, which has no supporting evidence at all.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 6:55pm On Jun 28, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Your certainty that there is no God is faith or the certainty that God did not create the universe even when its cause is scientifically unknown is faith . Its obvious you guys dont even understand the meaning of faith .

What caused the universe , you don't know but you are certain is not God - that's faith .

I have faith in God and I dont in other gods because I am certain God is the greatest . That rejection with certainty is the exhibition of faith .
Firstly, my conclusion is based on what Christians claim God is, and by that criteria, the existence of God is impossible. An all knowing God that regrets his own action is an antithesis to himself.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 10:10pm On Jun 23, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
This guy keeps trying to assure himself that Christianity is evil . Its obvious this thread hit them at the core ... hehe ... I so love this thread
Why do I need to assure myself about what is written in black and blue? projecting much?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 6:07pm On Jun 23, 2016
felixomor:
U see how you have further confirmed my thought of you.
So which is unfortunate now?
For your information, "Christian" is in the bible and more than once for that matter....

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch..........

And you even had boldness to state it authoritatively. Thats the problem with u pple, pride.
Please, its not too late, go and study.
Oh I got this wrong and I am sorry for that. That being said if isrealites are irrelevant why did God inspire bible writers to teach us of their murderous ways
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 6:03pm On Jun 23, 2016
winner01:
His point is clear my friend. The isrealites were not christians. Russians are people who are from russia, Nigerians are people who are from Nigeria. Christians are people who are in Christ Jesus, even though several christians wrongly call themselves one.
The Bible says: "If any man be in Christ, he is a new Creature. Old things have passed away, behold all have become new".

Those genuinely in Christ are christians. They want to be like Christ. So if someone kills in the name of Christ, we can judge him through christs commandments.

Atheist Linda Warenfelt-Wagner supports Arjun Manu's mockery of those who believe differently than them. In the article "Cause of Death: Militant Atheism", the author states that
"We know from history that the mockery of certain ethnic and religious groups often led to their persecution," in reference to the Holocaust (9 million deaths), as well as the Persecution of Christians under the State Atheism of the Soviet Union (12 million deaths).
You really wear your tinfoil hat with passion, don't let knowledge take it away from you grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 12:19pm On Jun 23, 2016
felixomor:
You see manifestation of delusion.
"The secular world is far more moral than christian God"

Then goes ahead to quote "isrealites"?

Please go and study. The isrealites were not "christians"

If u even say this in school, u will fail. Please go and study.
Is there any portion of the bible that contains the word 'Christian '? It's unfortunate that an atheist is schooling you on the 'word'.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 11:11am On Jun 23, 2016
snezBaba:
Well since we all want to proof things without scriptures here's my theory:
N.B:To continue Pls you have to read with an emotion free mind so as not to cloud your judgement.Lego
1. God's existence? My theory is that God really does exists,why ? Let's say I develop a robot for example, such robot will only know what I programmed into it. If it is programmed in such a way that it can only serve tea it will never do more than that.A robot can never do more than it has been designed to do. It can never be intelligent than its creator,if a robot can floor a person with the highest IQ,its all thanks to its creator my people! Compare this to humanity we just gained consciousness one day and be like how did we get here verily we must have originated from this and that.we take solace in what's around us.Apes and the likes.People all that God crcreated isn't perfect.Trust me it is,dont you see the needy Nd feel like What if that was me, a sight of glorification,atheist be like their genes caused that,it can never be me.What if it was his would you know?
Why did HE put us here if everything hedknows what will happen. Let's take this series as an example,The flash. The speed force knows about the beginning and the end. God knows about this as well in the real world.Are we for his pleasure?Nah,he sent the scriptures as guidance,we all know time can change but it's quite difficult.seems am writing nonsense.To all the atheist here I challenge you to bring your deepest and thickest questions about GOD and we look at it together. You too seun,Hope it's worth my time. CHALLENGE
The important thing is that whenever the robot demands evidence of his creator, his creator will present itself. The robot too can look at its own code and even programme next generation of robots if it so desires.

In the case of humans, where is the irrefutable evidence of the existence of a God? If this God exists, which God is it?

As you know, a number of religions with different norms and precepts claim to worship the true God.
PoliticsRe: AMCON To Takeover Ben Murray-Bruce Companies by GeneralShepherd(m): 10:59am On Jun 23, 2016
a2personal2013:
Wahala dey ooooo. Everybody that has voiced against this government is now being pursued by one legality or the other. We are all watching in 3D googles where this will lead us to.

We have an unending list of debtors cutting across various Nigerian businesses. Why is BMB being singled out ?

Like we always say " whatever is good for Boniface should equally be good for boniyarnsh"
I detest hypocrisy, I am proudly igbo. You actually agree that BMB is actually owing AMCON but you are only upset that other debtors like ARIK have not been held accountable.

Don't be like the zombies that see no wrong in the actions of our Dullard president Buhari, if BMB is owing let him pay up!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:56am On Jun 23, 2016
iamexcelblog:
Seun am sorry to say this... But most times, you sound too shallow, vague and confused.

Personally, I dont believe in "God" because the God I was taught about from Childhood is something manufactured by man.

But "God" as perceived through common sense is something that must exist! I said perceived mind you. Ask me how?

Nairaland Didnt just come into existence.
Seun invented Nairaland.
Nairaland has been evolving over the years because Seun is Active and maintains it.
Without Seun, there is no Nairaland
Because out of Nothing, Comes Nothing.

What the above story teaches is that Seun planted the first seed of Nairaland. If Seun didnt plant it, no amount of billions of years will make Nairaland come into existence suddenly by itself, maintain itself and evolves by itself. Even Seun will confess how hectic it is for him to maintain it!

The problem with the "God" theory is that human beings always claim to know it, him or her. Which is an obvious lie! This makes them to give "God" human attributes like perfect, good, nice and all that. To me, "God" is neither perfect nor imperfect!

In summary, "GOD" does not exist because it is something defined with human attributes. Mind the word "God"

BUT THE FACT IS THAT SOMETHING EXISTS. AND THAT THING IS THE CAUSE OF ORIGINS.
Can you describe this your version of God? Please while you are it, since something cannot come from nothing, from whence came this your version of God? Or is your God nothing as you claim that only nothing can come from nothing.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:48am On Jun 23, 2016
Omooba77:
Even the athiest too have FAITH there is no God. o
This argument is not only false but portrays your education in a very poor light.

Atheists do not have faith that there is no God, atheists reject the notion of a God because there is no evidence -objective evidence - that proves the existence of an all powerful, all knowing and Omnipresent being.

You do not need faith to reject a ridiculous idea, if I told I am the president of Nigeria and then fail to actually prove that I am PMB, would it be right to say that you are rejecting my claim by faith, when you expectedly dismiss my claim as utter baloney?
Christianity EtcRe: The Salvation Plan by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:39am On Jun 23, 2016
This thread exposes the hypocrisy that is rife in Nairaland. Seun willingfully scorns the whole Christian faith, mocks the cornerstone of the sacrifice of Jesus yet in another thread he created on the Muslim section where he asked for the appropriate punishment for apostates, he couldn't even challenge Muslims that clearly endorse the killing of apostates.

When I wanted to reply, I was shocked to learn that I will need to accept Islam before I can comment in that section.

If this isn't hypocrisy, I wonder what is. I am atheist but this leaves a sour taste in my mouth about the modalities of nairaland. Christians can be mocked for their faith that rarely leads to loss of lives while Islam is above reproach!

Utterly disgusting!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does God Not Heal/help Like He Promised? by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:51am On Jun 23, 2016
Image123:
You said that "The reason atheists continually demand regeneration of an amputee's limb as the ultimate proof of divine healing, is simply because it is scientifically impossible. " This implies that once something is scientifically possible, you may not disbelieve that God did it(a miracle). Your position is that all the healings and miracles of headache, stomachache, blindness etc are scientifically possible. Correct me if i am wrong, i often try to make some sense out of the senselessness.
When you assume naively that God has never healed ANY out of the plethora of amputees across the world, i thought you knew some of them. i did not know that you were talking by faith. Are you a fisherman, what do you mean by dropping your net?
The net is a figure of speech but you know already even though you are grilling me about it.

Okay let's not squabble over semantics, I'll rephrase.

' it is not yet scientifically possible to regenerate a lost limb'.

I actually thought it is pretty obvious to anyone why atheists always clamour for regeneration as proof of miracles because it is impossible to fake. Yes, I honestly believe that most so called miracles are not what they are portrayed to be.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 8:58pm On Jun 22, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
TRUTH
Even the bible had to reinvent itself in the new Testament because the old Testament was simply embarrassing.

If morality is objective, why did the almighty God himself need to inspire a new edition of his archaic laws?

The same God failed to condemn slavery but regulated it yet his supposed creations realised that it is wrong for humans to be owned as property.

If God's own manual to humans contained moral flaws, how come you espouse that he is the ultimate moral giver?

Ridiculous...
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 8:47pm On Jun 22, 2016
karleone:
How does an atheist differentiate good from bad?
You know, when I class something as bad, I base my judgment on societal morals which originates from the fact that someone up there sees my action and frowns at it. And I, as a person, need to live to make Him happy rather than sad. Now I ask, Seun, since an Atheist believes not in God, who we all know is all Good and deserving of our love, on what object does he base his beliefs of an action to be bad?

Keyword: Bad, Atheist, God
You mean a God that instructed his children of isreal to kill in battle including babies. The secular world is far more moral than the Christian God, His children isreal (who have continually killed Palestinian civilians till this day) and his church that have led thousands of crusades , wasting lives in his name.
Morality is not absolute as civilisations existed before the advent of Christianity with laws and regulations.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does God Not Heal/help Like He Promised? by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:55pm On Jun 22, 2016
Image123:
So if it becomes scientifically possible tomorrow, you will stop demanding or what? You have no reason at all. How many amputees do you know among the so called plethora?
Is scientifically possible the same as a miracle? So by your logic that Airplanes can fly after years of research is a miracle.

Do I need to know all the amputees in the world? Well if you have documented evidence of a regenerated limb please share with me. I'll gladly drop my net and follow Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 1:21pm On Jun 22, 2016
winner01:
Who decided what is good and what isnt?
How is Christianity morality the bastion of all morality? A lot of crimes has been perpetuated in the name of the so-called Christian morality.

Other civilisations survived without the Christian morality. The dark ages when the church ruled over Europe was perhaps the bloodiest in European history.

Morality is very subjective as even minor things like the role of women in the home varies from culture to culture with the Europeans rejecting the biblical subjugation of women in recent times
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 1:16pm On Jun 22, 2016
winner01:
You are replying this cos you care my friend.



Steven Sheinfeld, a atheist, should realize that research shows that religiosity and education are directly proportional before she calls believers 'stupid' source.

Perhaps he should also accept that
atheism has historically been a main cause of the suppression of science source.

Sheinfeld should read about the arguments before making such claims: http://bethinking.org/
An excerpt from your link...

“It all falls down to what you consider to be religious,” said Schwadel, an assistant professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. “If it’s simply attending religious services, then no. Highly educated people are not less religious; in fact, they’re more religious.”

“But if it’s saying the Bible is the literal word of God and saying that only one religion is the true religion, then they are less religious,” he continued.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m):
KingEbukaNaija:
After I have proven that God and the bible do not support slavery ? Winner01 , I think this young man is frustrated that his rebuttals are easily refutable .
I have also shown that the whole of the south of the United States of America perverted the bible to endorse slavery. This is an irrefutable fact as they are very proud of their heritage. The bible belt is also the most racist area of America.

I wonder why these southern bible thumpers are the most bigoted and raced while the Liberal states like Newyork, New Jersey are tolerant and multicultural ?

As for you insistence that Atheism is responsible for the atrocities of communism, it is unsurprising given that you are the king of trolls grin
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 5:51pm On Jun 21, 2016
The Christianity you so love was actually perverted by Americans to enslave Africans. Take a look at an except from a Christian website

It is one of the ugly truths of Christian history that biblical texts were often used to justify the slave trade, particularly in the southern states in the 19th century where slavery was big business. Perhaps the most famous biblical text used is the passage in Genesis 9:20-27 known as the 'curse of Ham' which tells the story of Noah and his three sons. When Noah got drunk, Ham saw him lying naked in his tent and ran to tell his brothers. For this, Noah curses Ham and says "The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers.

[size=18pt]Christians also looked to the passages in the New Testament which spoke of slaves honouring their masters, and said that it was further proof the Bible supported the slave trade. [/size]They pointed to passages such as Ephesians 6:5, where Paul writes: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/why.white.us.christians.are.repenting.for.the.churchs.role.in.racism/57175.htm

So as opposed to communists who perverted the teachings of Karl Marx to perpetrate, these racist white Americans relied on the bible to entrench slavery and all the undocumented deaths it left in it's wake.

Till today in America, majority of white conservative states in the south popularly known as the bible belt is still the most racist in the USA today.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 5:30pm On Jun 21, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Do you see why I said you are being disingenuous? You know fully well that Marx , Lenin , Engels ' ideologies were induced by the adversity caused by religion but you are trying to take away the blame on atheism . There is nothing political about persecuting and killing religious people . Mao , Stalin , Pol Pot were all driven by hate for the religious because of their atheistic ideologies . Just like the posts of these atheist bigots show , if given the puissance possessed by these potentates , they'd go on a killing spree .

Every atheist including you sees religion as an impediment to development . The religious will always be defiant about what he believes in and the atheist who has no moral compass will exterminate the religious because he thinks the religious are mentally unstable .

The hate in the atheist's head elicits the mockery , the bigotry , the killing . There is no difference between these atheist leaders and you people - the same animus drives you all .

Marx says religion affects social inequality : http://study.com/academy/lesson/karl-marx-on-religion-how-religion-affects-social-inequality.html

Lenin on religion

Vladimir Lenin was highly critical of religion, saying in his book Religion

[size=18pt]Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.[/size]

In About the attitude of the working party toward the religion, he wrote

Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class.

Every communist state is an atheist state which is very intolerant of religion and religious are highly persecuted ! There is nothing political about killing because of their religion !

Communism is a conflation of Marxism and Leninism and it has been shown by their originators that these ideologies are inherently atheistic !

How do you feel now , isn't your face red with defeat and mortification undecided
Again you are dogmatical conflating issues, I continue stressing these points not because I expect you to see reasons with me. Diverse views promote intellectual discourse afterall but most importantly future readers will assess different sides of the argument and make informed decisions.

Now, let me ask you a few questions.
During the time of Karl Marx, did the church rule most of Europe? Has the church ever in it's history used religion to inhibit science and education thus subjecting the masses it ruled over to maximum mind control?

Finally is being a communist a prerequisite to becoming an atheist? Is communism a religious or a political philosophy?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 4:03pm On Jun 21, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Well you have chosen to be disingenuous and I let you be . The rudiments of the ideology includes the rich controlling the poor using religion , now this irritated Karl Max as an atheist . Can't you see that communism does not allow the development of wealth by individuals . Why ? No wealth that will need religion to exploit , oppress or control the poor . So eliminate religion , eliminate wealth . No monopolistic practices , the wealth available is for the benefit of all not for a few . Since the population gets an equal share of the wealth produced, there is virtually no incentive to produce.

So this ideology was drawn from his perception of religion - a tool of oppression. Since Karl was an atheist , his disbelieved in religion . It was religion all along .

Lenin now tagged along , agreeing with Marx that religion is indeed the opium of the people . He felt that religion was the cause of capitalism and feudalism . He said : "the yoke of religion that weighs upon mankind is merely a product and reflection of the economic yoke within society." Lenin saw religion as a negative to human development .

Religion , according to Karl and Lenin! has its roots in capitalist oppression . And to obviate this , people have to overcome this oppression .

Now communism is the conflation of these ideas - it's called a Marxist-Leninist ideology . The war on religion means that the capitalist society would gradually fizzle out making wealth to be equally shared amongst everyone .

Lenin also agreed that capitalists "are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven."

Now , tell me , who would be contumacious about communism - the religious . Who are the targets anytimethe ideology is being enforced , the religious . Who are in charge of the enforcement , the atheists . Who are intolerant of the religious practices , the atheists . Who would carry out this ideology at the expense of the religious , the atheists . Who support the persecution of the religious and want the ban on religion to be enforced , the atheists . Who lack the belief in God and in religion , the atheists .

Plus History has also shown that the religious are usually the victims of this enforcement


Young man , go to bed !
Firstly when Karl Marx was alive (1818 - 1883) and years before he was born there was no separation of state and religion.

A secular country like France was a religious state until as recent as 1905 when laicite was formalised thus separating political power from religion.

So Karl Marx's anger with religion (the church) is very well justified as the church at that time was anti-liberal, killing any person that challenges its teaching or legitimacy. Also the corruption within the church is well documented in history, the impunity in the house of the Lord was also unparalleled.

Some of the notable scientific pioneers whose discoveries led to their death at the hands of the Christian Church include

- Michael Servetus 1553
- Galileo

Furthermore the religion fought enlightenment so much that the church regularly burnt down libraries to suppress learning. They (church leaders) rightly predicted that if the populace became more educated the power of the church will decline.

Education introduced concepts like the separation of state and religion, freedom of worship and freedom of speech which all contributed to the decline of the political wielded by the church.

Consequently, the church as we know it today is a vestige of its former self as it has lost all it political power. Governments in matured democracies no longer rely on religion to make decisions that affect the general populace as opposed to developing countries like Nigeria that jail homosexuals because the bible said God hates homosexuals. It is therefore important to put Karl's dislike for religion in context.

Lastly, Atheists do not try to condone or justify the atrocities and genocides of such individuals, but they would point out that they were not committed in the name of atheism per se but for (often unfathomable) political, racial and nationalistic reasons.

While Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot were certainly atheists , the important point is that it was not their lack of belief in a god which drove them and motivated them.

The fanatical and uncompromising political, racial and nationalistic dogmas which animated them were not the product of any religious belief (or lack thereof), but political.

Thus, while Stalin and Mao happened to be atheists, they did not do their deeds in the name of atheism, but in the name of their own dogmatic variant of Marxism.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:31pm On Jun 21, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Well you have chosen to be disingenuous and I let you be . The rudiments of the ideology includes the rich controlling the poor using religion , now this irritated Karl Max as an atheist . Can't you see that communism does not allow the development of wealth by individuals . Why ? No wealth that will need religion to exploit , oppress or control the poor . So eliminate religion , eliminate wealth . No monopolistic practices , the wealth available is for the benefit of all not for a few . Since the population gets an equal share of the wealth produced, there is virtually no incentive to produce.

So this ideology was drawn from his perception of religion - a tool of oppression. Since Karl was an atheist , his disbelieved in religion . It was religion all along .

Lenin now tagged along , agreeing with Marx that religion is indeed the opium of the people . He felt that religion was the cause of capitalism and feudalism . He said : "the yoke of religion that weighs upon mankind is merely a product and reflection of the economic yoke within society." Lenin saw religion as a negative to human development .

Religion , according to Karl and Lenin! has its roots in capitalist oppression . And to obviate this , people have to overcome this oppression .

Now communism is the conflation of these ideas - it's called a Marxist-Leninist ideology . The war on religion means that the capitalist society would gradually fizzle out making wealth to be equally shared amongst everyone .

Lenin also agreed that capitalists "are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven."

Now , tell me , who would be contumacious about communism - the religious . Who are the targets anytimethe ideology is being enforced , the religious . Who are in charge of the enforcement , the atheists . Who are intolerant of the religious practices , the atheists . Who would carry out this ideology at the expense of the religious , the atheists . Who support the persecution of the religious and want the ban on religion to be enforced , the atheists . Who lack the belief in God and in religion , the atheists .

Plus History has also shown that the religious are usually the victims of this enforcement


Young man , go to bed !
grin I can't help but laugh at your revisionism. Your attempt to retell the sordid past of communism as solely a religious war is not only ridiculous but blatantly false.

I bet you have never heard of Christian communism which espouses all the ideas of communism while embracing christianity as the name suggests.

Keep on telling yourself that communism is the same as atheism, maybe if you repeat it long enough it'll become true-at least to you. However, no rational human being will actually believe that the central theme of communism was religion.
AgricultureRe: Tomato Jos: Mira Metha, Harvard Graduate Who Is A Tomato Farmer In Nigeria by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:22pm On Jun 21, 2016
Rubyventures:
but you can start small like using small containers in your back yard, it is very easy to grow tomatoes, the cuttings from one plant can be regrown and you will soon have a full farm of tomatoes. A lazy man always looks for excuses.
Don't be obnoxious! I have relatives that have been farming for decades in the village and still don't own a farm on acres of land. Without external funding this level of farming is impossible to attain?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:24am On Jun 21, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Good response
Still conflating atheism and Communism?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 3:01pm On Jun 20, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Hahaha ... I have told you so many times that those Christians who resort to violence to express their disproval against depravities like homosexuality and abortion are doing so against God's will - clearly written in the bible .

Atheists on Nairaland even right here on this thread approve the removal of religion EVEN YOU - your show of hate in that post Has not been expurgated after bringing it to your notice numerous times - this means you have been prevaricating to hide your true position on the matter.

Most Militant atheist accounts on Twitter have over 100 thousand followers and reckoned at 5 million people following total . Militant atheist organizations who show their hate for the religious keep growing on Facebook . Every time I speak against atheism on Twitter , your brothers in hate would inundate my mentions with derogatory comments about my personality , God and Christianity .

When the number of people following a particular ideology of hate and bigotry against religion and religious people are overwhelmingly preponderant , I think it's rational to conclude that it's their way of life .

So yes , atheists have the DISPOSITION to hate and persecute the religious , and are malevolent towards the religious.
I have also shown you that there is no ideological code binding atheists and blaming the oppression of communism on atheism is simply laughable
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by GeneralShepherd(m): 2:59pm On Jun 20, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Hahaha ... I have told you so many times that those Christians who resort to violence to express their disproval against depravities like homosexuality and abortion are doing so against God's will - clearly written in the bible .

Atheists on Nairaland even right here on this thread approve the removal of religion EVEN YOU - your show of hate in that post Has not been expurgated after bringing it to your notice numerous times - this means you have been prevaricating to hide your true position on the matter.

Most Militant atheist accounts on Twitter have over 100 thousand followers and reckoned at 5 million people following total . Militant atheist organizations who show their hate for the religious keep growing on Facebook . Every time I speak against atheism on Twitter , your brothers in hate would inundate my mentions with derogatory comments about my personality , God and Christianity .

When the number of people following a particular ideology of hate and bigotry against religion and religious people are overwhelmingly preponderant , I think it's rational to conclude that it's their way of life .

So yes , atheists have the DISPOSITION to hate and persecute the religious , and are malevolent towards the religious.
Of course, the number of Christians that hate gays and that will readily kill them are indicative that Christians are murderers. (I hope my trolling will show you how ridiculous your claims have been)

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