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plaetton: Bros,
I do a lot of introspection, and ask myself that same question everyday.
Am I a bigot, an opinionated hater?

When abroad, I lived with, schooled with, worked and befriended people from every corner of the Earth, with different histories, different cultures and different religions.
At no time, did the beliefs or religions of the people I came into contact with ever become a contentious issue. It never ever mattered and was hardly ever discussed. Religion was only sparingly discussed when my ever curious self would ask people questions about their religion for the purpose of learning.

In an ideal society, the religion of your friend or neighbor should never a problem or concern to you.

However, when I cam back to Nigeria, I was shell-shocked at the level of havoc religion was causing in Nigeria.
I felt( and I am not kidding) as if there had been some kind of mass surgery where portion of the brain had been removed.
Even my grandparents and great grand parents did not match the level of superstition that had engulfed the whole land.

At that time, big churches had taken over closed factories and warehouses, and everyone was shouting Halleluyah!.
As someone who had very solid understanding of economics, I thought everyone, including the leadership , had gone crazy. Where will the prosperity being preached come from?

I said to myself and everyone else cared to listen that Nigeria was in deep deep trouble.
With minds actively involved with the "New magical thinking" in the form of pentecostal revival, the future looked terribly bleak .
I was in my late twenties and this was about 15 years ago.

So, bros, I have predicted, cried and mourned my beloved country as I have sat and watched the wide scale destruction of our national IQ, the widescale descent of reason, the dearth of intelligence and the epidemic of s.t.u.p.idity turns a once promising people into unthinking zombies.

How can anyone ignore religion in Nigeria, especially when a new breed of scoundrels and parasites advertise our gross national lunacy on television every single hour?

I truly wish I can ignore my neighbors turning their houses from one night fellowships to daily fellowships, and finally into full blown churches?
How can I ignore every shade of clowns walking into my office on a busy weekday to preach the word of a god that just conveniently happens to be invisible?

How can I ignore religion while when people meet me, instead asking sensible things about me, they first ask "which Church do you belong to?" .
I beg your pardon sir?
I don't belong, I am a free man.

How can I ignore the irrationality of religion religion when business associates insist on prayer before a business deal is consumated?

Sometimes it takes a trip abroad just to assure me that I am not the insane one.

Do you want to talk about Boko-Haram and their holy blood lusts?

Anyone who is not religious cannot simply look aside and let things be.

I often ask myself whether I am fighting people because of their religious beliefs, or because of the irrationality that they bring to bear on everyone who interacts with them.

I, and I can speak for most Nl atheists fight the irrationality and what it portends for the future if left unchallenged.

I get your points just like I am reasoning with my mum to let me go to the UK to get an MSC and she is telling to instead to call on Yahweh to help me get a job. I did that one year by the wayy without results. Nigeria is heading nowhere if we continue on this religious lunacy

MonsieurCoder: Splendid post, And believe me, it is working, i can't count how many atheist i have met that got converted through Nairaland, A whole lot of them.

Borrowing my christian brethren's parlance:you are proud to be at war with religion...

Redoil: GOD is calling them

You want to start a God-debate abi? God forbid!!! He doesn't exist

onetrack: Many atheists have no desire to discuss or debate with theists. Those are the ones you'll never see on the religion section.

However, some atheists are former believers and have some desire to justify their change of positions, even of just to satisfy themselves.

And some atheists, seeing logic and reason as the center of belief, enjoy trying to reason with others just because they enjoy doing so (a hobby, you might say)

And some atheists want to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of theists so that they will be more tolerant of other religious beliefs and non-beliefs. Like trying to head off extremism before it starts.

And some atheists are actively trying to convert others, like missionaries.

Hahaha the missionary part got me cracking

adaobi123: RIP

Pheww I feel so much better was scared it might have been you.. never know how much we appreciate fellow Nairalanders!!1

oliidell: My office mate is best friends wit her younger sista-Alexis. They all went to the same high school. She's been crying all day & i'm chatting wit her ryt now. She said Adaobi always came top of her class and that she & d sister were inseparable. It was just d two of dem.
Take heart Alexis.
Get caught Klug.
RIP Adaobi.

Alexis that works with Best search recruitment?

dvdon: RIP to ADAOBI. Well I just want to use this medium to advise ppl that U.S n Europe aint as safe as we think. Let justice take its place. Amen

I'll rather be murder in USA than die of hunger in Nigeria

sCun: No the northerners are Arab arse lickers. Arabian slaves

kissing and bowing to an imaginary arabian God allah...

rationalmind: Catching fun. Its fun to see the folly of religionists

Lol that sounds mean!! does it not bother you that these people take these ideas seriously. I don't respect God because He doesn't exist but I respect the concept because a lot people I love and care about hold this concept in high esteem.

I am an atheist, I dont believe in God because there is no proof and I don't care if you believe in Him.

There is a common perception that there must be “something more” to atheism than simply disbelief in gods because atheists so often debate theists. What’s the point of debating if not to convert someone to some other philosophy or religion? It is, then, fair to ask why atheists get involved in such debates and what they hope to achieve. Does this show that atheism is some sort of philosophy or even a religion?

Let's discuss please!!!

God is the least of my problems, I wonder why most atheists bother with all these arguments back and forth.Not like you are defending your source of income like most christians, or denying the obvious to protect your worldview? what is the incentive?

I wonder... God doesn't exist failed me,failed my family will continue to fail because the prayers were to nothing,the nigger doesn't exist!!

Mr.Troll,Alfa,Platteon and all the other atheists why do you bother with these debates?

Well, I have shifted ground alot applied for jobs outside my field!! But how do you cope when employers want to pay 20k for a graduate engineer?

to chop na wahala... most times I feel there is no hope,threads like this gives the much needed hope.

Though I am an engineer the little I know of evolution from secondary school biology sounds better than creation story in the bible for me.

And my new stance of atheism,goes hand in the hand in dismissing the creation story

The mods have officially gone Loko!!

Fighting over imaginary friends!

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Exactly what I asked myself.

But I got my answers already.

They are inferior chaps who delight in causing rampage in the church just like the coward-in-chief satan [/color]

You need a brain transplant my dear

Restro Flamez: fvcking christians

You seem disturbed...

Logicboy03: I know he kicked the bucked but was it horrible

He was shot if I remember correctly

Restro Flamez: Fvcking
christains refuse to listen to reasons

Why not let them be? Aren't you trying so hard to evangelise? Before a man discards God He needs to think things through for himself!

Uncle Jona. Happy birthday I no fit begin curse you on your birthday! Safe trip to London. Tomorrow I go continue the cursing. Happy birthday Oga at the toppest top.

Kabieosi: Robots do not run by themselves
Robots follow instructions or algorithms
As per robots doing good, well that is contentious,
as it depends on whoever the operator is and the intent when using the robot

In as much I don't believe in Gos,your argument that human beings have no choice and that the actions we take are as a result of enviromental influences is wrong! Why?

The implication of your argument is that there should be no judicial system! Choices are real man. I'm on mobile now its difficult typing on it

Joshthefirst: one can act contrary to what God has predestined him to do.

It is impossible to surprise an omniscient God and as such you can't go against predestination. If you can then God will loose His omniscient abilities

I HATE YAHWEH,; I'l rather go to hell than love him

vickyO: the bible is the basis of all doctrines, anyone that doesn't derive it's origin from it is wrong. We should test doctrines if they be true or not. I am not condemning him as a person. I'm only testing the doctrines of his church.

But the very catholics you criticise majorly influenced the choice of books contained in the bible! Might it be that they are withholding some top secret heavenly dossier that protestants know nothing about?

Pope II why are you attacking Vickyo like a rabid dog!

Take a chill pill its just her opinion. Gush!! Hoppe you won't kill someone because of catholicism •

vickyO: the deal is why claim to be Christians if you don't rely on Christ alone? it doesn't hurt, I know, but should I sit quietly and watch my brothers in Christ derail.

Who determines who the real christians are? Since we have no way of objectively communicating with God(I said objectively) why not leave it till the judgement day!

What did Jesus say about removing the speck in your brother's éye whilst ignóring the log in ýours?

Pray for them if you feel they are in error! That is what I read in the bible when I was an ardent student of the Holybook

Personally I feel you guys fighting over all these makes christianity look bad!

Anyway I'm a proud ex-christian!


Also notice how even though I don't believe in God,how I still right God with a capital 'G'. That is because I don't respect God cos He doesn't exist but I resppect the fact that some people hold the concept of God with the highest esteem.

Mikocake: Ndi Imo unu siri ike..Tufiakwa

And we accuse Yoruba's of tribal bigotry, so Amuneke now represents the good people of Imo state.
I studied in Owerri and Imo people generally are welcoming and content with whatever they have; little be it or much.

Have they been tried in a competent court of law with appropriate jurisdiction? Why strip them naked and abuse them? Jungle justice reigns supreme in a country without social and judicial structures!

I pray none of you would be wrongly accused someday and killed for a crime you know nothing about!

The jungle! My jungle called Nigeria.

And what will the American do?

This is a jungle we have no rules of engagement!