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[size=15pt]Sandra:[/size]
Christians copy Paganism without realising it,all the jesus story is from ancient myths such as Horus.Christmas and Easter are the most obvious.The name Easter originated from the name of an ancient Pagan goddess called Eastre.Christians honour the Goddess without even realising it with chocolate rabbits and eggs that are directly drawn from her symbolism.
3 years ago

[size=15pt]Dirty Rotten Badger:[/size]
To bring in the pagans to Christianity, because they were saying,'Big deal with this Jesus guy. We've heard all of this stuff before.' Ironically, they were quite ready to abandon their gods and move forward. Then a "new" brand of belief was presented.

"And if we assert that the Word of God was born of God in a peculiar manner, different from ordinary generation, let this, as said above, be no extraordinary thing to you, who say that Mercury is the angelic word of God. But if any one objects that He was crucified, in this also He is on a par with those reputed sons of Jupiter of yours, who suffered as we have now enumerated. And if we even affirm that He was born of a virgin, accept this in common with what you accept of Perseus. And in that we say that He made whole the lame, the paralytic, and those born blind, we seem to say what is very similar to the deeds said to have been done by Aesculapius."

Justin Martyr's comparison of Christianity to Greco-Roman mythology.
3 years ago

[size=15pt]SpringWolf:[/size]
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Ostara became Easter, Samhain became All Saints Day, Yule became Christmas. There is also speculation that "May Day" was derived from Beltaine. Many of these holidays were modified by the early Church to ease the conversion of local Pagans from their practices to those of the Christian Church. If the Church used the same dates, and slowly altered the underlying message or purpose of the festival, they could rid the area of pagan practices all together. And it nearly worked. Those Pagans that didn't convert went underground so to speak with their practices and kept their beliefs alive. While no pagan tradition today can directly link their practices of today with an ancient tradition, the elements and oral traditions have been kept alive. Even if some of those are from anthropological study and research. But holidays aren't the only Pagan influences you'll find in a Christian Church. There are many pagan rituals that are incorporated into Christian worship.
~ Catholicism utilizes the use of incense to bless the altar before Mass. A Pagan form of clearing energy and setting shields of protection around an altar before ritual.
~ Most Christian churches light candles upon their altar to beckon the presence of Yahweh and Jesus. A Pagan form of honoring and calling the Gods/Goddesses to ritual.
~ Prayer is a petition to Yahweh for aid or to honor. Closely related to casting a Spell and invoking a God/Goddess for aid or to honor.
~ Using symbology upon an altar such as a cross or image of Jesus is also a Pagan practice used to focus energy or align one's energy with a particular Deity or spirit (ie: an animal spirit).
~ One of the biggest uses of symbology in the Christian church is drinking wine for the blood of Jesus and eating bread for the bones of Jesus. This is an extremely pagan thing to do. By taking in the essence of the "god" into your body you are not just aligning your energies with that Deity, but you are also channeling that "god" through your body.

Whether or not some Christians want to admit it or not, we are all much more alike than we are different. Wouldn't it be great if we could focus on our similarities instead of our differences and learn tolerance for each other?
Source(s):
The History Of Samhain / Halloween http://paganspath.com/magik/samhain-hist…
The History of Yule and the Winter Solstice @ http://paganspath.com/magik/yule-history.html

~ Celtic Shaman, Teacher & Pagan
3 years ago

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[size=20pt]Why Were Christian Festivals Placed On The Dates Of Pagan Festivals?[/size]
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100318071330AAesZzi
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[size=15pt]seeker_of_wisdom_and_truth:[/size]
Why were Christian festivals placed on the dates of pagan festivals?The original Christmas was the 6th January, the Alexandrian dare of the birth of Osiris, but why move the date to Dec.25th the date of Sol Invictus , the rebirth of the sun, and of Mithras the Roman soldiers god, it is also on the winter solstice festival, Easter is a pagan festival of rebirth hence the name taken from a pagan goddess Eoestre. In fact nearly all Cristian festivals are on pagan dates.
3 years ago

okemmadu: Another question: Can sickness be healed by having faith in the Word of God?

In fact, Can the Word of God produce any significant effect?

okemmadu: Another question: Can sickness be healed by having faith in the Word of God?

In fact, Can the Word of God produce any significant effect?

[size=55pt] NO [/size]

[quote author=I.Joan]How do they get so many girls to go nak.ed in these films?

[/quote]The same reason their females are into p0rn
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Ignatio: Both series got uncensored action, depth and quality.

GOT is more mentally challenging.

Mentally challenging? What does that make 24 and Suits? Mentally challenging ko, mentally disturbing ni.

Ignatio: Just sat you don't like fantasy tales/movies.

You need not waste precious space by quoting me. If you read my analysis well, you will realise I'm into Fantasy series and movies not just any immature ones even a toddler can conceive. Have your heard of X Files Heroes?, Dresden Files Brimstone?, Reign of Fire?, The Vampire Assistant?, The Sorcerer's Apprentice? Harry Potter except for the last.

@Duvell

You're damn right, Game of Thrones are for those who spurious fantasy like Merlin, Legend of Thr Seekers, which are very many in Nigeria. They don't like historical based stuff just like they prefer whatever hopes or fantasy Nigeria throws at them than to know their original history as to know the only way forward. The only mark scored in my analysis is, it has a very beautiful theme start music which is the only thing I love about it.

@ obi1kebobi
Shey na award go yield profit to the producers of Spartacus, abi u tink say na only Spartacus Starz get? There is the new DaVinci Demons and others that have won and will win them awards. Mumu. Spartacus is a class of its own and I wish more like it will be made, something like Vlad - The Legend, let them do something on eastern Europe, rather than the new Vikings which I'm yet to embrace at episode 3 going.

@THOSE BASING THEIR ARGUMENT ON IMDB RATINGS:
Ofcourse any fantasy/magic film/series will sell more than other genre so far it can keep the minds of the unimaginative fired. But ask yourself what can an 18+ gain from fantasy/unreal magic, dragons, elves, scrolls, imps and dwarves. What does GoT or Merlin or Legend of the Seekers teaches us as black Africans? Nothing cos we needn't be reminded we got the real supernatural real magic here in this part of West Africa, (ofcourse I know it wasn't made for us), therefore I can never be amused by their usage of fiction as a medium to tell the world they too (whites/europeans) used to have a magical past, some whites would be shock to know the numbers of Nigerians yothw who believed Wiz Merlin and Arthur actually existed in England after watching Merlin. But in movies like Spartacus I among others learnt more about the Roman battle formations: auxiliary and phalanx tinz, those of you expressing indignation about their lasciviousness fail to realise that the series was trying to be realer than Rome in the sense that they wanted to depict every aspect of the then Romans i.e. from the orgies they were usually notorious for to their PAGANISM before they concoct fvcking Christianity. Also all you fvcking Christians should know the Romans defeated, conquered and enslaved the Jews in several wars, including their holy temples and city-Jerusalem which was destroyed by Titus, and Hadrian who burned their fvcking sacred scroll 'ceremoniously' and constructed a statue of himself and Jupiter in their fvcking temple, I wonder if their Jeovah couldn't help them, why would he help Nigerians? So note that it wasn't only Hitler who tried to annihilate these semitic vermins whose repackaged religions majority of Nigerians are crazily into while its unknowingly affecting them. "ke tu bo ma lo gbe egun elegun".

[quote author=Dan_de_Numeruno]Spartacus: Blood and Sand (Season 1)

Spartacus: Gods of the Arena (Season 2)

Spartacus: Vengeance (Season 3)

Spartacus: War Of the Damned (Season 4)

......

Need I say more?[/quote]Guy chill, no de be Gods of The Arena is not season 2, it's a prequel to Season 1: Blood and Sand.

@Topic:
All mortals who thinks to compare Game of Thrones to Spartacus should be condemned to the Pits. Haba! Comparing the two is a disequilibrium of, it's like pitting Gollum(GoT)with Collossus of Rhodes(SPTCUS). Aside from the creators of Spartacus like Sam Raimi who themselves were forged from elementals of movie-making, Spartacus, Andy or not, is a drug-pump, adrenaline-rush, non-stop enraged JUGGERNAUT. Those of you stating that Spartacus deserves a low verdict arguing that it is lewd-filled should stick to Palloma & Diego or those off-s3x indian films. Don't you hypocrites think about having guilty conscience before using your fingering fingers to type statements like "Spartacus is a b/f jor", "Spartacus is a nudity/mojo film". What is that crappy series called again? Game of Thorns? Okay Game of Thrones, ...that wimpy, huff-puffy attempt at something grand-turned-debacle. First time I glimpsed it, i.e. the title: 'Game' 'of' 'Thrones' I reckoned it oughta be retake on something medievily hot given the word 'Throne' and at last a new and genuine fantasy series to hopefully fie for given the image of the official cover having a character who seemed like a Warlock who had rolled many heads to attain that royal sit, 'Yes, finally...a series to forever teach fools what a good fantasy should be like rather than those unoriginally dry and bloated Legend of the Seeker and Merlin that shook and took the under-nutured unimaginative minds of so many Nigerians by surprise, only for GoT to prove worst. I have these keen sense of analysing foreign stuff, I usually succumb to whatever can render bewilderment in a sensible and reasonable way, therefore the likes of Games of Thrones is not even comparable with even The Walking Dead, first of all, as a male, I like and appreciate well choreographed combats that are realistically convincing enough to make me ponder 'how'd they did that shit', don't get me wrong as I do not mean blood and gore which by the way, despite being SFX, too much of it may inspire squeamish like in 'Ironclad' and 'Centurion' (when it isn't Scream 10), I am talking about realistic fightings, mass clash, like....not in that silly Collin Farell's Alexander but hits like Russel Crowe's Gladiator and Robin Hood, Scott Adkin's Undisputed II & III and all time favourite Miller&Buttler's 300 ( I learned a sequel is coming this year which is going to be based on the events that took place before the Battle of Thermapoyle led by the only female warrior to have bested the Greeks or so, captaining fleets of Persian battle ships...not sure sha).

Back to GoT vs Spartacus MAIN

What first turned me off about GoT is really it wet combat scenes, I mean it's so awkward and unrealistic it makes 90s British wrestling not so boring afterall. I mean how could warriors be clashing swords and the next camera cut are the dead, even the Nigerians movie-makers I hate to dislike can do better than that seen in GoT. Nevertheless I played the worm and endured episode 2 through 4 in the hopes of getting hooked with it budding under-developed story of over-used story-telling style and foreseeable conspiristic plots, I eventually lost it and broke the DVD plates like Isabella broke Aro's head while been held down by Edward in Breaking Dawn II.

B R E A K D O W N. S

...............................................................GoT..............................VS............Spartacus
Genre:................................................Fantasy/Fiction............................Historical/semi-authentic
Theme:.............................................Sword&Sorcery..........................Emancipation from slavery
Combat:...........................................Cheap and watery.......................Fierce and convincing
Acting&Performance:........Normal....................................................Great
Creativity:......................................Superb................................................ Normal
Directing:.........................................Poor........................................................Superb
Element of surprise:.............***(3/10).......................................****** (6/10)
Lewd:.................................................****(4/10)....................................**********(10/10)
Violence/Gore:.........................*(1/10)...............................................**********(10/10)
Profanity/Vulgar:..................****(4/10)....................................**********(10/10)
Theme Song:...............................**********(10/10)...............**(2/10)

WINNER: Spartacus (Starz Original)

Verdict: Game of Thrones is like that silly, puerile Naruto which is meant for those who need to be filled with an over-dosage of fantasy and magic while Spartacus is like Samurai Champloo having properly animated combat scene and a story one wishes not to end.

GideonG: Heck Christians don't even go to church on sabbath day. God rested on the 7th day of creation but people choose to worship God on the 1st day of the week instead of sabbath day.

From your response, you believe in the Jewish/Abrahamic 'God'-Yahweh/Jehovah, to have created everything in our universe including the GOOD & EVIL that exists in it and ofcourse the provision of peace and disasters, but my question is how so is that semitic God capable of getting tired to rest on a day (sabbath) if he is said to be omnipotent?

Mart d dart: #SMH...I have got 2 words and nothing more: FIND JESUS

Not we all agree we are suppose to be looking for him

Born 2be Rich: Everybody living in Nigeria knows that it is seriously increasing.

What happened to farouk lawan and otedola's case?

What happened to the fuel subsidy cabals?

What happened Maina that was accussed of pension fraud?

What happened to Alamaisiegha?

Abeg i don tire jare....I can go on and on and on...

May God have mercy on us in this country and help us all...Amen

Even if God truly exists, he/she/it would never have mercy on fools who are not willing to help themselves.

harmless: Who are you? Why do you say Jesus is a fictional mortal?

I am an A'theist who do not accept as true, stories from a book of a monotheistic Bronze-age religion, appended from various cultures by some jobless Greeks, repackaged, instituted and disseminated by the Romans, revised and edited numerous times by the English. Well, this said book claimed to contain the word of another human invention called God is argued by some to serve as the only source of moral authority where as there are also moral lesson learnable from the works of George Orwell and J.K Rowlings. A Book wherein certain dictum where employed by Euro-arab slave masters as justifications to physically and mentally-enslave our fore-fathers, a fact which still remain as a source of our retrogression. A book that threatens hell for failing to accept it as true.

Jesus is a fictional character because the only evidence of his existence is in the Book referred to above. Just like the evidence of Peter Parker's existing can only be found in comics. Even his tribe still denies in some context, historian and theologians till date agrees that little of evidence suggest the probability of Jesus existing. But I may also be tempted to think probably someone existed from Africa with esoteric knowledge dazzled the Falashas and years later his storied was blown up and remixed with some element of Judaism and behold a legend was told of a magician born in a Manger.

@Iyaniwura and topic
This is a skewed and an ill-informed write up. An iconoclastic attempt to surreptitiously demonize an Oduduan icon. Iyaniwura is at best an iconoclast disguised under a pro-Yoruba profile name who specialize in presenting Yoruba themes and subject in a parochialy mutilated form. Why must you deliberately misinterprete 'Olori Oluwo' as Head of the Occult!? when infact it means Head Chief Priests. Are the damages Bishop Ajayi Crowder did to the Oduduan language not enough?

[Some food for thoughts]
'Olori' in another context also means ruler or master while 'Oga' specifically means master e.g. Oga mi, it is important to note that Oluwa means Lord not God e.g. Oluwa mi = my lord, Olu Orun aka Olorun is Lord of the Sky, a deity among the Yoruba pantheon of Orishas ans Irunmoles, so millions who think they're praying to the Yoruba equivalent of the God of the Jews popularly called Yahweh/Jeovah which we don't have and ofcourse isn't the same with Olodumare are unknowingly praying to the deity of the Skies.

sanandreas: all is vanity if he does'nt have jesus in his life.

Do you really think the fore-fathers of Bill Gates, Rockerfeller, Howard Hughes who deceived yours with Christianity actually believed in that fictional mortal? Even the Ashkenazis who are purported to be the wealthiest in the world don't believe in Jesus Christ.

jantavanta: The challenge facing the engineering curriculum is the separation of the Sciences from the Arts. Textbooks praising white europeans as originators of civil engineering is daylight robbery. It affects the confidence of the larger society in our technical potentials, ensuring that we depend on Julius Berger that is unknown in Germany. Btw, in the 1400s and 1500s the King of the Germans was not yet a White Man.
https://www.nairaland.com/955076/black-african-nobility-ancient-europe/2#11899566


To avoid going off-topic, let me conclude by saying that Nigerian engineers need to excavate more of African history and less of white-centered African history that gives us conflicting Gods in white euro-arab images.

Jantavanta you are somehow correct in most of your submission on Nairaland, I agree with some of your arguments in the "Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe" thread but maybe you never knew you could buttress your hypothesis by connecting modern archaeo-anthropological findings and evidence with your otherwise suppositions. On the other hand, I know and I believe that civilization, science and technology originated by the ancient Yorubas Oduduans of Old, precisely from 'Otu-Ife' as stated in Ifa. If you can go through my past post, you will realize I am one for black pan-Africanist anything dudu-ist.

Mr. Charlie Boy you have to accept the fact that the Nigerian youths are the most unthinking and unconcerned lots amongst the youth population of the world. Nigerian youths, especially the ones of the south are so scared and cowed that they only think about their individual self. They are never willing to compromise their little comfort zone; they are plagued with opiatic factors such as their voracious obsession to soccer and ill-cultured musicals and musical videos, their irrational need to measure everything by God and religion, yet constitute the most hypocritical pathetics.

I wondered what it meant the first time I saw "My Oga at the top" used in a thread. As soon as it began to appear almost everywhere on Nairaland I reckoned the silly phrase was probably a statement someone must have spoken out of context now bandied around the Nigeria cyberspace as the new fancy catchphrase in town by the un-creative multitudes who unfortunately makes up the majority of we youths.

Nigerian youths prefers to endure hardship for as long as there is, at least a little assurance of food the next morning, with the hope to one day drive a fancy tokunbo car despite the undeniable reality that mitigates the latter from actualizing on a daily basis. They prefer to invest a false sense of hope in God to remedy all things gone awry rather than equip themselves with unbiased reasonings and indignant mindset to ignite a revolutionary attitude that will change their self-centred, self-interest mentality to a selfless and collective anti-oppression manifold such as the drive that sparked our less suffering counterparts giving rise to the Arab Spring.

Nigeria youths are comfortable with second hand phones and various imported consumer products and electronics without the thought of imbibing the spirit of R&Developing something uniquely African sellable to the world, they feel gratified with Brazilian hairs and hopelessly attracted to designer apparels without stopping to think of inculcating the spirit of repackaging and marketing their native hairstyle and indigenous wears in such innovative way, the world would appreciately welcome. They are ever praisful of European football stars and helplessly addicted to their clubsides while thousands of legendary heroes of local history that did great deeds, founded towns and cities fades into obscurity. The youths, particularly of the elites would rather go for a Samsung Galaxy s50 or Blackberry Bold 20 than buy or support a device modernized from native means of telephony crafted from our ancient metaphysical knowledge of technology otherwise known as Juju tech. Their so-called education has being misapplied, eventually turning them against anything originally black African only to embrace all thing white and foreign which they believe is divinely pure.

The Nigerian youths, especially of the souths are ever joyous of the mediocrity that is still afflicting the so called entertainment industry, always appreciative of the un-informative, culture suppressing, lesson lacking musicals and musical videos that now infests our channels with themes that tramples tradition only to glorify ostentatious and sybarity.

I have always wondered - is it always about 'Baby, I luv u' themes filled with erotic and bombom shaking ladies in a club-life setting consistently coupled with the display of cash and expensive drinks squandering, the only theme the Euro-American musician that the majority of the established and upcoming Nigerian artistes cheaply imitates always sing about?

My Oga@theTop is yet another Oga mi Chairman and Nothing Dey Happen statement of expression that the Nigerian youths have recently adopted in social networks, oftentimes used to avoid or derail cogent topics on some Nairaland thread, which to me, psychologically still reflects on the youths side another form of apathy, a puerile reaction towards the overwhelming anomie that has plagued the amalgamation called Nigeria.

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Good write-up that should have being titled ' 9 Words Used By Wannabe Nigerian Women Babes '

[quote author=Gabriel_sylar]His father was the BEST PRESIDENT NIGERIA NEVER HAD.......thank God for ZANY Abacha[/quote]His father never became a President, however still he would have made an excellent one.

dasparrow: [size=16pt]I just don't understand the average Nigerian I tell ya[/size]! Why is the average Nigerian such a loathsome nagging creature? When this same Tuface was making babies all over the darn place, you people would not let him rest nagging Tuafce to go and get married. Now that the brother has finally decided to marry his baby momma and long time girlfriend Annie, people like you and the writer of this piece are still complaining. Must our celebrities marry in that hot, overpopulated, mostly filthy, jaga-jaga country of ours that cannot even boast of uninterrupted power supply and clean tap/faucet water in this day and age?

Maybe Tuface and Annie chose Dubai so as to hinder potential gate crashers like Amina Umar from showing up at his wedding uninvited. I have always known that the reason the average Nigerian is obsessed with marriage and the marriage of others is because they are looking for free rice, meat and mineral that they will eat and drag home to their hungry battalion of peeps; nothing more.

Tuface and Annie had their traditional wedding in Nigeria. Tuface's fans/gate crashers had the chance to witness their marriage and eat rice and drink mineral. However, when it comes to the white wedding, the couple had a right to make it an INTIMATE affair where only invited guests were allowed to witness the occasion. If you and Amina Umar like, stop buying tuface's records. I truly believe that whom God has blessed, no man can curse. Tuface will continue to soar whether you miserable potential gate crashers like it or not.

Besides, Annie probably wanted her wedding in Dubai. Should Tuface refuse her her wish all because of some nosy 'fans' who can't seem to mind their darn business? Would you and Amina Umar appreciate it if someone - an outsider you don't even know exists - decides for you and your spouse where you should have your wedding venue? Would you?

I am very weary of the average Nigerian because most of you do not know how to mind your business. I wish the way the average Nigerian obsesses about weddings and marriages, they will equally obsess about good leadership and how to drastically reduce corruption and get some stable light/electricity all over the country so that you people will stop raising your offspring in the dark or amidst blaring generators that cause immense noise pollution leaving many Nigerians with hearing problems.

I'm out!

@bolded
Who told you I consider myself a Nigerian? I would have love to reply your responses, but since none of them scored any point, it would be a waste of time.

ItsModella: It's HIS wedding, not yours or any of his fans.

Oh! we thought it was Black Face's wedding, thanks for the correction.

ItsModella: He HAS the right to celebrate it wherever and however he chooses to.

Good point, he also has the right to sell/promote his next album and gig in Dubai, his new found land. I'm sure the Arabs youths there can relate more to his music.

ItsModella: It's a day for HIM, not any of his fans. It's once in a life time event, a day he's gonna look back at, a day he'll always remember, a day he'll always cherish, his choice should at least be respected. He does not owe any apology to anyone for celebrating his wedding the way he deemed fit.

And how would you respond if every Nigeria celebrities begins to toe the path of celebrating their parties, weddings, album launch outside Nigeria? How would you respond if that becomes the new standard for knowing who is who in the Nigerian entertainment ill-dustry.
What kind of image would such trend paint on the forceful amalgamation called Nigeria that some of us still believe may be redeemed?

ItsModella: Even some Americans and Europeans celebrate their weddings in their favorite destination spots.

You're totally wrong about that. Infact you're so wrong it makes delusional people feel so right. American and Europeans actually don't do what you have falsely claimed for them, what their couples and celebs do is to have their wedding done in their homelands and spend their honey-moon in exotic places like the Caribbeans, Bahamas, Dubai, Paris, etc

ItsModella: I still maintain that the writer is just plain selfish and dimwitted.

And I still maintain that you are as unthinking as the writer's keyboard.

Teddybear
Stop plotin stupid conspiracy…it doesnt mater where he did his weddin…even if he do am in Australia count ries…no b his money he’s spendin??stop d rubbish n find work 2 do….2face is my brother n am his fan….braaaa

Conspiracy? Where’d you get that word from? I hope that won’t be the title of his next album. And for your information it matters a lot where he decides to do his wedding. Regardless of his fans, what sort of message is he sending out to the international market he’s been striving to penetrate. If he had done is wedding in South Africa, or Kenya you’re very much likely to deem it unfit citing reasons like “How many crowd does he pulls in Kenya when compared to his homeland where he carved his name?”, “How many South Africans fans listen to 2Face or any other Nigerian artistes for that matter (except 9ice) muchless of gracing his concert/shows”?

And why are most of 2face defenders making this whole topic about rice, cake and drinks? Amina Umar was merely expressing humor, and you all took it literally. And I don’t need you to remind everyone that it his money is spending. What cheap replies.

ItsModella: Such a dimwitted writer. Her level of reasoning is appalling.

Your level of reasoning isn't? Why have you all chose to attack the writer's opinion which I happen to share too. Isn't Stephanie Okereke just like certain Nigerian artistes and producers who altogether aren't different from some two faced Nigerian elites and politicians who send their children to school/unis abroad and yet make their money here. Amina Umar made a point about the possibility of everyone now flying out to celebrate any thing in a bid to outmatch the yardstick TuFace has just trended, given the Nigerio-celeb-class mentality, a condescending practice analogous to the some so-called producers and directors here who now travel out to shoot wacky musical videos, only to come back and infest almost every TV channels with their lacklustre and conceptless 'bombom shaking videos' musical videos.

I don't see the point in your response so far. What Tuface did is unfair, not to me or anyone unconcerned but to those big-time fans of his who made him what he is, only if you could strain a bit to look at his deed without been utterly biased, you'll realise he could be charged with 'homage negligence', and when found guilty before the Supreme Ccourt of Fanboyogos, he may be facing Xyears of decline in favouratings mostly from his pro-Nigeria fans.

[quote author=dotcom_na_me_na_me]2face A Wicked Man. ONLY God Will Judge You On What You Did To Us – Amina

“I never knew or comprehend that Mr 2face Innocent Idibia had this spirit of Wickedness in him. We have been encouraging him even he was nothing till now that he felt that he has arrived.

2Face, We all bought every CD you has ever played, paid for all the shows your attended, devout our time to listen to all your songs, even when the songs may not meet out expectations, as an encouragement we continued to listen to them.
Yet you didn’t show us appreciation. 2Face, Let me ask you a question. How many Arabs has bought your CDs or listen to your any of your songs? Annie Macaulay’s Parents are not Arabs as to say your choose Arabland because of proximity to her Parents.
With your spirit of wickedness, you carry your wedding to Dubai so that Nigerian fans will not eat rice or cake or drink your mineral or even our local beer. You know for sure that most of your fans can’t afford the ticket to Dubai.

You denied your fans who bought and paid for your CDs and Shows the generational opportunity to see a glimpse of your wedding, because your are sure that WE fans are not important, Nigeria is not good enough to host a Celebrity Wedding.


Tomorrow your friends and colleagues in the entertainment Industry who are Naturally Copy-cats will join the trend of wasting our Foreign Exchange in countries that see Nigerians as no body.

Well, let me tell you, get ready to sell your next album in Dubai, perform all your new shows in Arab, with new found Arab fans, as For me, I will not buy or patronise your Music ever, again.

Though it is certain that you are so wicked to us, but we will only forgive you on two condition:-

1] Apologise to Nigerian for refusing to create History in Our Land.
2] You Must take up a Campaign to your copy-cat friends and Colleagues in the entertainment industry to learn how to Appreciate, patronise Nigeria and Thinking Nigeria, First.

Amina Umar

DKN

http://www.informationng.com/2013/03/2face-a-wicked-man-only-god-will-judge-you-on-what-you-did-to-us-amina.html[/quote]Amina Umar may Olodumare and the Orishas bless you.

Ever since I learned 2face was to host is much lauded wedding in Dubai which I thought was a joke, I couldn't process a reason out of such superfluous decision even if it turns out to be true which is the case now.

Of all those who have made it to the list of my most disliked musical and entertainment artistes in Nigeria, 2Face may ever make it to that list, or so I thought until this overt move of his. I so dig this talented Edo looking Tivi guy and despite the stress that I don't listen to Nigerian musicals that much, 2face used to be among my few exception since he does less of crap music and of whose unapologetic lifestyle I supportively adore, however, but not to the extent of after having made his fame and fortune in a land he now thinks isn't worth celebrating his marriage in. I hate to judge others but I can't help but to wonder why in Tartarus would a fame-drunk, ego-intoxicated Idibian fall the hands of his fans. Come on, what message is he sending to the outside world? I believe with the action he actually screamed at it fans that Nigeria lacks tasteful exotic spot to pull off an exquisite wedding? Well it isn't as if I'm a fan of Nigeria per se, but I suppose 2face wouldn't score well even from those fans who pretend to be indifferent about wedding in UAE, perhaps he may relocate HyperTek there and have is next gig shot on the moon to truly feel among class. I'm not saying he can't chose to wed in wherever location he pleases but haba, it's like thinking how it would look like to see the symbolic American icons such as Frank Sinatra or Elvis Priestley locating their wedding party in Russia or Congo, it just doesn't connect.

GooseBaba: Bros! Calm down with your unnecessary grammar...weda you like am or not you are simply worshiping foreign juju... Ifa or sango, orumila, esu, amadioha you refer to them as juju, and your own not! how so!? No be spirit all of una dey fear and worship...so my friend.! All na juju ...!

Brother, you got it wrong. What do you mean by "worshipping foreign foreign juju" ? Maybe if I'm to get you correctly then you should know that juju as a foreign term isn't of African origin by mother tongue, in modern times Juju is perceived from the educated/white man's point of view as any object believed by backward thinking primitives to hold certain irrational powers or effect. On the other hand Juju here in Nigeria is regarded as anything that is deem worthy of scorn and demonization given the religious disapproval whilst the crucifix, rosary, cross and tesubiu are sanctimonious.

A lot of peeps got so many of these things wrong and twisted, very few knows there's the differences between what can be classified under juju(ishegun) and traditional practices of orisha/irunmole worship (isheshe). Just like you they always mix them mix them all up, falsely assuming them all up under the scary evil...JUJU!

You mentioned Ifa, eshu, Shango, etc placing them as spirits, or demons, etc only shows that, just like so many of you in Odudualand, *so sorry to say* are all lost. Most of you know so much about the so called holy books of the foreign Abrahamic religions but absolutely nothing of your ancestor's traditions, or at most distorted understanding of some, mainly gleaned from the improperly produced Yoruba films or what your clergymen interpretedly fed for you for years, both of which keep deforming nd misrepresenting the original thing. How dare you imply it's because of fear, what you call spirit are being worshiped? I'm sure the worshiping driving/entering of vehicle or the purpose of gun are because of the fear that either of them can one day be turned against us.

What a shame..

Let's free ourselves from mental slavery and religious barbaro-dogmatism

Christian: When we die, we either go to heaven or hell.
Lawyer: then why would there be a judgment day?

Julieccentric: Its for real bro...and its burning hot!

Afterall the same science that gave you and your religious black converts the technological opportunity to use BB phones, drive vehicles, and communicate via internet technology also provided everyone the fact about the precise degree of the surface temperature of the Sun. Kindly point me to where in your Holy books it is stated of the temperature of the imaginary Hell you so believe to be burning hot so we can know what to build in preparation of harnessing it infernal energies when it location is one day hopefully discovered by the same scientists and A'theist who you should be more grateful to instead of your clergymen.

GooseBaba: Don't mind them... Simple conversation that we can analyze and reason with common sense... Them don begin dey quote their juju....

Mind you, Juju is not the same thing as what I implied as their propensity of presenting God as the reason for a cause, an excuse, and justification. I'm sure what you really meant by your incorrect usage of the word "juju" is actually is the widespread false believe in urban superstitions and deliberately distorted understanding of our native sciences by religious societies, not withstanding the need to research the existence and advancement of the efficacy of •supernatural affect'• erroneously called juju.

The white black lies Nigerians should stop deluding themselves with in order to emancipate themselves from mental slavery:

"Na wa o, Nigerian is now a very horrible country. Only God can help us"

Boko Haram attempt to plant bomb in Marina was foiled by... "God is in control."

5 people were reported to have survived the tank explosion that occurred this..."To God be the glory."

A Boeing 790 commercial airplane managed an unsteady landing after it rudders inexplicably caught fire during take off saving 175 lives on board...."God is great, all the time."

I tire for Nigerians, everything na God if not devil.

oiseworld: do your home work well logicboy, Christianity brought civilization.

By destroying the heathens of the world such as the native red Indians abi?

MacDaddy01: Doesnt matter.

All religions are man made. They all have human limits.

Judaism- Jewish religion with a Jewish God that had only Jewish prophets and cared for the nation of isreal
Christianity- Jewish religion with a Jewish man sacrificing himself for the lost sheep of isreal
Islam- Arab religion, which replaced the Jewish religions and then proceeded with an Arab prophet and prayes/quran in Arabic.


Religions like human beings are naturally ethnocentric and never universal

You are right as always but you have to note Isheshe is not man-made, neither is it a religion

k4kenny: First of all who's Richard Dawson, why should his tweets matter?mtcheeew.

Richard Dawkins is a scientist, an atheist, and a famous author who asks faith-programmed mind to reason for themselves by asking for proof and looking at scientific evidence.

As an A'theist instead of an Atheist, I will like to share this recurring conversations in my life between me and my street buddies.

Friend 1 : Okay, okay, we don hear your argument but let me 'aks' you, Who created you?
Me/A'theist: Since when has someone being required to manufacture me or human?
Friend 3: No, no, you don't understand, what he's trying to ask you is who is your maker?
Me/A'theist: Nobody made me. scientifically speaking though.
Friend 4: Guy, you normal so, but shey you gree say no be you make yoursef sha?
Me/A'theist: Yes ofcourse, I gree
Friend 1 &2: henhen! Who is your creator then?
Friend 4: who kon give you your life?
Friend 3: who is the maker of your flesh and blood?
Me/A'theist: if you all are asking to know who created me, then the answer simply is my father and mother thus the question should be 'what' rather than who.
Friends: Guy na God create you, you better believe
Me/A'theist: Lai Lai, I can't accept that, I was created as result of the fusion between a spermatozoan and an egg-ovary. Period.
Friend 5: wetin be funsho, wetin be sperm?
Me/A'theist: fertilisation na im take place...
Friend 5: ogbeni, no go dey deceive yoursef o, na almighty God create you, your papa, your mama, your grandpapa and your great, great grand father. I pity you, you too dey read nonsense. Na im dey worry you.
Me/A'theist: wetin I know be say, no be God create me sha, another thing...
Friend 1,2 and 4: *cuts in* So you don't believe in God?
Me/A'theist: which God?
all street friends: which God!? *barrage* the almighty God, King of Kings, hell shall die, the beginning and the end, Jeovah Jireh etc...
Me/A'theist: Guys, guys, hold on, make una wait first na, hold on first, make I clarify something first of all.
all of them: *barrage still on* Father of all Nations, ancient of days, King of Judah, the one and only, redeemer, the truth and the light, blah, blah, blah...
Me/A'theist: *upped voice* okay, okay, ok o! I say I don hear but can we let us first agree on a definition of who exactly is God.
friend 4: wetin you wan tok? Guy you no get sense at all, how you go tok say God no dey, na WA for you sef.
Me/A'theist: Just try and listen first.... God is an English word used to describe a supreme being? An omnipotent, omniscient deity that is very powerful than everything in the world, abi na?
all of them: yes, yes na im....rock of ages, the almighty God.
Me/A'theist: since God is an English word to describe such, therefore the God of the Jews is YHAWEH aka Jeovah, that of the Arabs is Allah, and since we African pagans don't have a deity that befits such description as the creator of the universe or maker of human being, or a regretting and destroying God therefore I don't accept the believe in the English God of the Abrahamic monotheistic deity.
Friend 5: guy all dat won na grammar jor, but which God you kon believe in? Shango?
Me/A'theist: Why not. Afterall Shango do respond
Friend 2: So you be pagan. U dey worship idol.
Me/A'theist: Our ancestor's don't call it pagan, You called it so, you got it wrong...
Friend 4: Make una leave this won alone, e don finish.
Me/A'theist: Why haven't your almighty God protected it followers from Bokoharam up north? If you have 'ifura', a danger-alerting device made from native science it will warn you of incoming danger. Yet the knowledge of 'ifura' is from one the Yoruba deities you religionists calls pagan, false god, demon. If bokos were to storm Lagos or Ibadan, do you think you Christian stand a chance, won't it be the OPC boys to engage them with their Juju science you call pagan and fetish whereas your crucifix can't help. The same in the east too.
Street buddies: In short mo die this matter, make we close this chapter, how school tinz na....