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[size=24pt]Read why Africans shouldn't regard the film on the biblical Prophet Moses 'Exodus: Gods & Kings' more than it's entertainment value[/size] here [size=24pt]on Nairaland.[/size]

tpiaT:
yes, that scene was depicted differently from what people were expecting.

How do people know what to expect, oh you mean Christians and Jews. Have you watched Nativity story ? If you haven't then please do...

purplekayc:
Dont wNt to say nagetive about this guy hes one of th e best film makers along with his late brother.

...understand that Ridley Scott, an excellent director is very careful when researching his film project such as Gladiator where certain elements complies with historical fact but seems to care less this time around if his recent work offends the sensibility of any group of people so far it seeing the light of the day is guaranteed. The same goes with other famous and unpopular directors, producers, writers etc in Hollywood who are tend to be considerate when making movies on sensitive subject races that borders on racial, ethnic and active religion sometimes especially when not to offend the Jewish people, why don't they pay that respect to the negroid race the same way writer Mike Rich and director Catherine Hardwicke ensured their story abides by available historical record by casting dark-skinned African Eriq Ebouaney to portray King Balthazaar, one of the three wise men in the movie Nativity Story.

kay9:
I think your topic says it all - the movie was purely for entertainment - no need to go into all that about religion and stuff. The internet is there for anyone who wants to know the true-true.And hey, while we are at it, I didn't hear anyone (=non-Caucasian) complain when Idris Elba was cast as Heimdall in Thor.

Firstly, Thor bears no correlation with any active religious movement today as many in the modern world know better that Thor and all things relating to Norse myths remain mythological so in that sense characters could be cast as the movie-makers deem and aside from that liturgical angle, a film-maker from Scandinavia will never cast a dark-skinned character to represent Heimdall in a non-comic-based Thor movie as it would be misrepresentation of the actual account which will definitely offend the sensibility of their majority because unlike us, they care how such things may tell on the psyche of their younger ones who has taken interest in that aspect of their culture. Also, Hollywood (Marvel Studio) reserves the creative rights to readjust comic characters and story such that it doesn't conform to the familiar comic setting and depiction. For instance the Nick Fury I know in the Avenger comics is a Caucasian and not an African-american as portrayed by Samuel L. Jackson in the Avenger movie. I don't have any issue with that, I hope you get my point, and if you do then let me ask - do you think the whole Asian world would take it lightly if Buddha or Confucius was portrayed in an high budget Hollywood movie as purely bred Caucasian or dark skinned African ?

kay9:
The sad fact is 90% of Nigerians (even the so-called educated ones) will most like react with derision if they saw a black Moses. So dont blame it all on Hollywood, they are just feeding us what we want - we who should know better.

It's because those people that believed themselves Nigerians are either incapable of conducting critical analyses about these Abrahamic religions banged down their mind by missionary agents of Euro-arab colonialism and jihad or are choose to be ignorant on how Abrahamic religions came to West Africa. They are indeed suffering from mental slavery, Stockholm syndrome and all types of inferiority complex.

all4naija:
You didn't get the sarcasm in my post though!

No I didn't

tpiaT:
Its not meant to be a Christian film, same as Noah.

If it's not among the intention of the movie-maker to make it appeal to Christian masses, how then does a christian film play out ?

cutelover19:
The part that really upset me was at the crossing of the red sea, in the Bible God asked Moses to strike the water with his staff and the winds parted the water on either side and they crossed on 'dry' ground. Watch the movie to see how this scene was ill-depicted. BTW, I'm a Catholic Christian so I know what I'm saying.

I see you want us to discuss the film as it relates to the book wherein contains biggest lie ever told. Alright by me, but if I get you correctly cutelover, you're telling me your sensibility as a concerned or melanated Afrikan shouldn't be affected if the film was made to conform with Biblical description ? Unless you aren't a negro Afrikan I bet you don't know what that makes you? Well, I've only watched the film twice and I can say that particular scene is well depicted to the effect of asserting the intervention of a divinity as in its case Yahweh (Jehovah), however there are religious critics who expressed their displeasure over the movie's clever approach to proffer a rationale behind a receding sea that ensured the safe passage for the mass moving Jews. In respect to that particular scene, the religious critics interpreted the scene to be that prophet Moses became so pissed off on co-operating further with an agent that appeared in his hallucination so much that he threw away his sword out of vexation towards the sea which sank and struck the bedrock so much that it brought about seismic action that led to the parting of the sea.

all4naija:
The movie is more interesting than the original story from the bible. . Those christian fanatics should come and get me if they can! Bwahaha...

I think the movie is a silly as the Biblical Exodus itself because why couldn't an omnipotent Yahweh just have done something better than causing mayhem to innocent Egyptians all because 'he' wants to prove he's mightier. WTH!!!

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cutelover19:
I was really disappointed in the movie, so many misrepresentations and misinformation. Please don't take the message to heart!

Tell 'em again cos they indoctrinates here won't listen.

[size=20pt]CONTACTIVATE[/size]
Contactivate is a term I coin to properly describe a system where the energies and or essence of specific Irunmoles/Orishas are elicited to act on behalf of a given purposes which are not limited to request, defense, offense and other such way these natural forces can be configured to function with the right utterance.

demanded here

musicwriter:
@ghostofsparta.
Always like your views as it concerns Africa and the black race. The only thing I disagree with you is on worshiping carved woodwork that you advocate for as well (correct me, if this assertion is wrong)

Thanks. A way of thinking which emphasizes the term 'worship' is fallible when used to underscore that which our believe system entails. First of all, it is important to understand that we don't worship anything much less of a wood carving or stones. What those who stand by the ways of their ancestors do is to contactivate various forces of nature personified into that which is close to the concept of entities called deities (Orisha/Irunmole) in English language in order to aid interaction, control and directing of the natural world.

That is to say it is not those wood carvings or monolith you see that they believe in as your colonialism made you think, but it is the force they represent that they provide an act towards, now the acts can be misconstrued as worshiping of idols and demons, but hey don't Christians and Muslims converts in Nigeria bow down to crucifix, rosary, tesubiu and books made from the same natural object our ancestors are condemned of resting their believe on, so-believed holy books that used to swear oath by the rulers in Nigerian government only to loot the treasury dry for none of the two prophet will descend to strike, the same can't be said of ours, and if you doubt, kindly read here. To have an introductory understanding of what I'm trying to explain, you can start by reading my piece on (ṢANGÓ)---here--->BLOG or NL.

In any capacity, there's more to all the subject which I shall be expressing in my far from completion book. In all capacity, Someone who is genuinely grounded in it may use such fallible words such as 'worship', 'spirit' when describing some things about it to you in English without knowing he/she is wrong. For years now, I have studied and am still studying what was it our ancient fore-fathers are into which parts of still survive today, and in my studies so far, the best it can be described with is 'believe system' not even religion, or animism or idolatry etc those terms incorrectly describe it. " Like I was telling someone yesternight..."what you keep saying about about our ancestral believe system is nothing short of what you've been made to think of it by those Christian and Islam clergies who are hellbent on demonizing through the tactic of inspiring fear on you so as to part with your givings in respect to tithes, offering, alms which are used to acquire expensive houses and jets.

musicwriter:
What you need to understand is the original Jews were black people and they started Judaism as a religion not white people. The modern whites in Israel today are Polish immigrants who adopted Judaism as a religion, and dominated it. What the bible called gentiles.

I know and also know that those original Jews have a connection with the Falasha Jews of today. But I don't get your gentile aspect. Do you know this body of information serves as the basis to which The Afrocentric Bible was constructed on?

musicwriter:
It's such a pity blackman remains blind to his own history, even when Israeli scholars are now coming out in the open to say they're not the real Jews.

I was telling some folks the same but only to see these ignorant Jew-loving fellows refuting it the same way they'd defend the slavemaster religion even when scientific and archaelogogical reports are coming out with irrefutable information that contradicts popularly held believes about Abrahamic faiths.

musicwriter:
So, this movie as you said is nothing but an entertainment. But I wonder why black actors and directors there in Hollywood just sit and wait for black history to be told by whites.

The Jews who pays the piper dictate the tune, do you know that BET is owned by Jews ?

musicwriter:
Who are the real Isaelites?

Watch video below!

Whited Out Documentary, The True Israelites were Black, Asians & Native Americans were also Black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0DtMiYxEM

Definitely will, I shall post you some videos as well soon as I complete their subtitling in English.

PrettieJ:
This is kinda late but I'll still say it. Some people have incessantly accused the President of our nation of saying "stealing is not corruption" when he said "stealing is not the same thing as corruption". Of a truth, stealing is only an aspect of corruption and not corruption in itself; reason being that one can be convicted, prosecuted and jailed for stealing (be it a car, cash, house or someone's identity), whereas corruption as we all know is a different ballgame entirely. For example, how can someone be arrested for a corrupt act when there is no proof? E.g students who are victimized daily by lecturers, how do they drag their lecturers to court over what is not documented and will be a case of the students words against that of the lecturer; or how do you get a police officer arrested for detaining you because you didn't tip him? Corruption is something we all need to fight collectively and not blame one person for the rot in our society. We all need to decide to be men and women of integrity and corruption will die a natural death. Thanks!

To clear your self, read Can Nigeria Be Better Off, If Our Leaders Swears By Our Ancient Deities

Jayboi:
now its obvious who you are. The bible is at your disposal. I'm not saying all accounts in the movie are correct, but its still on point. Read the book of exodus again.

What has the obviousness of who am I got to do with anything ? Not saying I haven't read the book of Exodus but why should any true African person be concerned about an account of the Jewish people in the first place, why not also be equally concern about those of the Balto-Slavic people or Saxons ? their accounts is also as interesting as that of us Africans. Why the fixation on the semitic Jews ?


@Gatiano I can see you on this thread and I'm not saying you can't drop your comment but PLEASE, PLEASE and PLEASE not any of those drivel of yours.

[size=24pt]Read why Africans shouldn't regard the film on the biblical Prophet Moses 'Exodus: Gods & Kings' more than it's entertainment value[/size] here [size=24pt]on Nairaland.[/size]

Jayboi:
well. its not as if all the stories documented in the movie are true. yet the message there is obvious and as a Christian, I know my they are. Op definitely is not a Christian. sorry if you feel offended by the movie.

I don't feel offended by the film nor the director but sometimes feel upset by Abrahamist negro converts like you who can't see what's wrong with such production and how books such as The Jewish Phenomenon is a propaganda from an African POV.

Original source here
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Modertor ijebabe and nex do the right thing...front page please

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As I settled to watch Ridley Scott's cinematic rendition of a biblical myth titled Exodus: Gods & Kings a fog of dismay encroached on my jolly mood as the epic-movie progressed on. It was as a mind liberated off religious falsehood wrestling with yet another instrument of propaganda, it got to a stage I couldn't bear the whole misinformation and just had to excuse myself. Two Islam-dominated African countries banned the theatrical viewing of the movie over what they deem as offensive to their faith which is the depiction of prophet Moses (Musa in Islam) interacting with Yahweh (Allah) as represented as a male adolescent.

To start with - if the Jews, as the movie implies was responsible for the laborious construction of those great monuments and pyramids in ancient Egypt as has been portrayed in Hollywood flicks such as the mishmash 'Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter', the question is why isn't it much referenced (if not detailed) in the Christian Bible or Torah ?

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Let face it, was it really during Pharaoh Rameses period the Jews were tyrannized ? Why isn't there any information available to substantiate this accusation ? Even to offer a benefit of doubt is still ponder why would Egyptian scribes decide to omit the documenting of a significant and enormous event where years of forced servitude is imposed on a special set of people known to us today as the Jews, whose offense for been persecuted was to acknowledge a God which differs from that which their host believed in, well...no archaeological data exist to concretize this, no cenotaphic records and hieroglyphic evidence of hundreds of Egyptians pharaohs provide the littlest of clue that can attest to such concocted claim knowing how well negrotic Egyptians are reputable for record keeping. Christian scholars and notable theologians keep mute on these pointer same way the Arabs who now occupy Egypt prefer to remain silence when questioned about the original owners of Egypt.

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Regardless of the historical fact that several groups sojourned in Egypt at various Pharaonic reign, even if a proof exists [or is provided by those who hold on to this parochial argument] to validate the claim that cruelty was meted on the Jews, hence would not it be sensible for an omniscient Yahweh (Jehovah) to have put his omnipotent powers into use by magically transited his 'chosen' people away from a land of oppression and strife rather than laying Egypt to waste and destruction through plagues, famine and upsetting of its natural condition as graphicalized in the film, all because of a macho struggle between a mad King and a foreign God ? It beats me I'd say. Secondly, the level of euro-centricism displayed ceaselessly in the high-budget flick only corresponds to one truth - 'the victor rewrites history' or as George Orwell once articulates; "those who control the present can, to some extent, control knowledge of the past". This can only shed credence to the factoid that Hollywood is controlled by the Jews for I see no reason why the movie script should jump scrutiny so as to be consistent with historical facts.
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Christian Bale (Moses) and Ridley Scott (Director)
Director Ridley Scott's excuse for whitewashing the casts with Caucasians is flimsy on his weight scale of either conforming the project with a pro-Jewish angle else wouldn't have seen daylight of funding. This is equivalent in insult if a movie which intentionally depicts Asians as terrorists responsible for 9/11 attacks so far it fuels an impression, if distorting the facts can yield money who cares of it verity if certain interests remains satisfied. If bible-believing Africans are lost about their collective true origin and history other than the version Euro-arabs slave masters hammered down their minds like that of the Adam & Eve myth for instance - why shouldn't anyone proceed to shoot spurious motion pictures such as this one. The sponsors of Exodus: Gods & Kings are cognizant of the fact that the mindset of majority of Africans still function in ways that subconsciously place the pale-skin people as superior to them in all matters, including historical authority.


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This scene implies lots of things...for instance, there was never a time Egypt belonged to negrotic Africans

From purely an entertainment point of view, of-course it's just a movie but I can tell many Nigerians would rather relish in seeing in a miracle-working foreign deity defeating that which is closer to theirs without even realizing the error in the story and how the whole setup further destroys them like the book they so guide their reality by has done for years. I have no qualms with Hollywood nor with those who adjust history and reality to suit their movie tale like The Interview did, but the danger lies in the sort of mindset movies such as 12 Years A Slave and this one shapes. Mentality that can be counter-productive and at most destructive to foreign and local interest. The way majority of Euro-americans know one or two things about the Tarzan legend is not the way everyone here understood the various dynamics that fueled trans-Atlantic and sub-Saharan slavery or who Cheikh Antah Diop and Naiwo Osahon are, these two among others African scholars debunked years of misinterpreted findings on Africans history and origin, these authors looked at the same piece of evidence and data and set things straight from the rather euro-centric framework of non-African scholars and researchers. Reasons such as this is why movement were even setup on twitter to enlighten others of the misinformation besieged the movie.

Like every other civilized world were flourishing in various parts of Africa so was Kemet (ancient Egypt) which was inhabited by negroids who constructed and build the pyramids and other monumental structures with their sweat and blood, or whatever means was used to construct those mega-structures. Not only were they culturally influential to other neighboring non-Africans, not only did the ancient Kemet founded the great civilization Egypt is credited for today, where before the mixture and invasion of various foreigners.

GooseBaba:
They say the first step is the hardest. I agree we should set up some form of platform that celebrate ATR From a creative perspective. Like for instance, take the cowry for example. It used to be something people traded with but today it is seen as a demonic tool by enslaved minds. Something like this we get creative with it like bitcion.. You know when something is progressive people find reasons to be part of it. We need to get organized. Let's REALLY try and rub minds, we never know..!

There is this saying "An organized lie defeats a disorganized truth everytime "...

Where are you based ? Are you on BBM or WhatsAPP ? You can PM me. In the mean time check out my blog on the propaganda film Exodus: Gods and Kings, why it shouldn't be regarded more than its entertainment value.

einsteino:
for christ sake it is "NIGER DELTA" development commission! not Nigeria development commision! haba! you guys already share our oil! you are in charge of importing refined products, you and the hausas dominate NNPC, now you want to also be in charge of our development! that is madness. NDDC unlike NNPC and NPA is regional.

As far I am concerned, we aren't running true federalism in this British experiment called Nigeria. I see no reason why the oil and non-oil wealths of some states is used to develop other states, it's not done as such anywhere in the world, even in America. Hence I am not only an advocate of total resource control, if you go through my past posts, you'd notice I am for a de-amalgamated Nigeria.

@ GooseBaba
@ cold
@ Plaetton
@ rinrin23
@ OlaoChi
@ dolemite
@ thehomer
@ igbo2011

Rather than engaging and indulging our lost, mentally enslaved and misguided NL fellows in their religious delusion (Gatiano is a nutjob and you guys really engaged whoever he is) why don't we amass our efforts and collect our limited resources together in order to channel them into things that will definitely enlighten the upcoming and growing young generation in our society. I mean for instance I used to like Marvel, DC, Valiant, DarkHorse and Image comics until I outgrew it all. But those books made me discovered my creative and artistic skills, I am willing to draw up stories that conforms with our Afrikaness and ATR believe system but to sustain its longevity would require adequate support not limited to funding and intellectual input. This is a project I've been dreaming about for years. Now it's out of the can, over to you guys.

cc: Ryabcool oduduwaboy oduasolja oduastates macof FOLYKAZE

sinizia:
The greatest disease we have in this country is TRIBALISM not corruption. It's tribalism that led to corruption.

I'm sure you meant TRIBAL DISCRIMINATION which is very much different from TRIBALISM

SkyBlue1:
It is a federal parastatal. No ethnic group has any inherent "right" to demand the chairman should come from it. Now if you can prove the appointments are purposefully biased or prejudiced to prevent somebody from place A from getting it over somebody from place B, then we can have an adult conversation.

In as much I am in support of the bolded, I don't think Nigeria has been fair to the Yorubas at large. Your argument would have swayed me had it been those who were appointed during OBJ regime to manage, administer and direct all the affairs of NDDC were non-South Southerners but any such Nigerian from any region provided he/she is competent and can do it well. I hope you now see the logic in the the group's argumentation.

sinizia:
The greatest disease we have in this country is TRIBALISM not corruption. It's tribalism that led to corruption.

I'm sure you meant TRIBAL DISCRIMINATION which is very much different from TRIBALISM

SkyBlue1:
It is a federal parastatal. No ethnic group has any inherent "right" to demand the chairman should come from it. Now if you can prove the appointments are purposefully biased or prejudiced to prevent somebody from place A from getting it over somebody from place B, then we can have an adult conversation.

In as much I am in support of the bolded, I don't think Nigeria has been fair to the Yorubas at large. Your argument would have swayed me had it been those who were appointed during OBJ regime to manage, administer and direct all the affairs of NDDC were non-South Southerners but any such Nigerian from any region provided he/she is competent and can do it well. I hope you now see the logic in the the group's argumentation.

cc: Ryabcool oduduwaboy oduasolja oduastates macof FOLYKAZE

tutucious:
Please I need help on how to subscribe and browse with my blackberry playbook sim card enabled... So far I only brose via Wifi or bridging with anoda blackberry phone. Please help me with steps on how to browse on it with any sim card. Thx

Have you got it resolved ?

GBAM!!!

uplawal:
Thanks.uthor=ghostofsparta [post=33649089]

modify and remove my email from that quote. Someone attempted my email for an OLX scam.

uplawal:
Pls can i have your email.

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cao:
To the FPS fiends, you can finally have a good verbal smackdown on whether Call of Duty or Battlefield is the better first person shooter game. Oya start talking.

CC: gmyguy & AdeLaNa1, you can continue your talk here, after your cooling off period is over.

In a general sense of an all out fun and destroy I think CoD kick the arses of both Battlefield, Crysis and the likes, but in terms of which is more close to realism in respect to an almost photorealistic visual rendition and a down-to-earth storyline I will definitely go with the Battlefields. As for the third person shooter series Ghost Recon, I think they are the most intentionally-made unnecessarily-difficult war game among the trio. What's your take on slasher games, specifically DMC and GoW ?

Greeny02:
The popular 50 shades of grey,I watched this movie few days and was like 'wtf',se movie b dis? D sex there nah yeye sex,how anastacia go dey foolish like that

Despite agreeing to the fact that the movie is over-hyped one of those one-in-a-million shot that responded effectively to viral-marketing; BDSM isn't a sexual lifestyle one would expect an African or an average Nigerian to understand muchless of relating to.

ojdollars:
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Why does Nairaland keep recycling thread with the same old title ? There's already one like yours HERE