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[quote author=Darey_00]Hilarious thread,made more hilarious by the Narcisst OP.. Quote all u want,infact read all the motivational books in d world that will make Brian Tracy and Norman Vincent Peale blush,the cold truth is that u dont have d slightest idea about programming,yet u are barking down everyone with words of advice. U tend to luk at d bright side of tins only. Do u tink d Wright brothers came up with d plan 4 an airplane d moment dey graduated. No,they started small. Try to get busy. An Italian proverb says "between saying and doing,many a pair of shoes is worn out". Am nt discouraging u,am jst advising u to start small and walk d talk by actually learning programming. Oh and b4 u start quizzing me abt my qualifications,i'm only a 2nd year computer science student trying to figure out what d heck programming entails. So u may say am nt morally right to talk dis way,but i couldnt help it due to ur attitude. Its too self-adulating. Peace[/quote]Me Narcissist ke! I bet you don't know the meaning of that term as it doesn't apply to me in any sense. BTW I don't agree the Wright brothers were the first to invent a flying plane. Truth is I appreciate you all, without the discouragers and the pessimists I wouldn't have reconceived a much more grand yet revolutionary OS to my idea.

Mad Cow: HUH!!!??



Bakassi Boys in Lagos?!!!!!





LASG should shoot them dead.

I see you've being playing too many shoot 'em ups

[quote author=Mr.chippychappy]Its funny how you can just pick up 5 young men and tag them "Bakassi boys" , I've seen the REAL BAKASSI BOYS and trust me these guys can't scrap the dirt off the shoes of the REAL boys . If you see the REAL BAKASSI BOYS you would be scared to death . Those clowns are ordinary traders , The security operatives want to give us the impression that they are working . LOL at BAKASSI BOYS IN LAGOS .I've seen the real deal Trust me , back when there was this OPC VS ALABA boys squabble in Lagos (2000/2001)when the REAL Bakassi boys came in , the OPC guys and the ALABA boys immediately became best of friends. [/quote]That's not true. Thing is would igbos allow OPC to operate in the east in protecting the interest of discriminated Yorubas there?

nenergy: This one isn't a-press-my-neck-at-night experience sha. As a teenager, i accompanied my aunty to dispose refuse one evening. We dragged the sack and basket of refuse till we got to a desolate area and proceeded to dump the refuse there. Just as we were about dump the refuse, something came over us- we couldn't move. My head was "swollen" and i had goose bumps all over. All we could do was call each others name. The force "freed" us and we "picked" race.lol The next morning my aunty went back there to retrieve the basket and sack. Lo and behold, we had dumped the refuse at a grave yard. #Spooky

NA big lie^

@all:
There're no such things as ghost, skeptre, wraith, incubus, succubus, lilith, demons, leprechaun, trolls, goblin, spirit, imps, gremlin etc....these are all foreign ideas peculiar not to Africa.

But there are Iwin, Oroh, Oku, Ebora etc which aren't only different from theirs but are so real it makes Jeepers Creeper cry.

^^^A comforting respond I must say, Don't get me wrong like some others, I never had the faintest of idea regarding the differences between C, C++ and C# regarding which one of the Cs to learn.

[quote author=oche_ejemb]Do you even code bro?[/quote]Not yet

I think I will rather assemble a team when I C fit, until then the OS concept resides in my head, evolving. And if one day anybody in the world independently does what it similar or close to what I have in mind, then so be it, I just wish African black(s) should come out with something something not only challenging but extremely revolutionary.

all4naija: South African forensic department is lousy. I can still remember the poor examinations and tests they conducted on Marakina dead miners.

[size=18pt]Really? but as lousy as they may be, can we even boast of having effective crime scene investigators in Nigeria much less of forensics[/size]

[quote author=A-ZeD]Linux is an operating system that is free to download and modify.[/quote]Okay, what is Linux based on, as in what was used to create Linux?

Logicboy03: Anyone with an open mind will enjoy these debates

Very true.

Logicboy03: If only we could organise things like this in Nigeria

I have always thought about that, a live TV debate show here in Nigeria, I came up with titles like "Beliefs Collides","The Shocking Truth Debates" and "Who Dare Speaks", but I think we may have a rough time getting interested sponsors/producers here in this over-religious nation except if we are to pull it off ourselves. But I strongly think we ought to initiate it from a website/debate forum. Nairaland should have had special sections for Freethinkers|Pagan|Atheist. Ya feel me? I've temporarily suspend working on <<RAPS<<, e no izy. Just watch out some day.

[quote author=A-ZeD]My advice, if you are bent on building an OS, go down the linux kernel root.[/quote]What exactly is a Linux? What (not who) created it?

BloggingIq: Please can you elaborate on this - "what I have in mind is 10% closer"

Don't think I don't know what you're trying to do, the only thing you can extract is this last clue: what i have in mind is a complete overhaul of the OS idea, a whole new approach, a different concept, it's like using a spoon without a spoon, something that projects inward, rather than the holographic outward projection.

BloggingIq: code something that you can sell, something that companies will kill for,
you can then use the proceeds to fund/start your big idea

Well, if I'm a seasoned coder, I wouldn't mind if it cost spending the rest of my life on it.
[quote author=A-ZeD]The speed at which the computer industry is moving, by the time you finish your OS, there's a 50% chance it would already be outdated.[/quote]I vehemently doubt that, regardless of Moore's Law, if there's a 100% chance it get outdated prior to unveiling, then I haven't being good at blocking telepaths, must have underestimated the possibility of genetically engineered mind readers .

BloggingIq: A time will come when you will need investors, so you need to build you CV first= code/create something small but mighty

Why is an investor necessary in anything, must it be a must?

lordZOUGA: thread successfully derailed

Let's try to railroad it back

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]If you are talking about Ifa, then it is derived and used in Yoruba Religion. so it is a part of our religion.

or else if its not Ifa, explain me what is YAS ?[/quote]like I said:
<RAPS< watch out
it's gonna be BIG

Javanian: why the insults??

Why express partiality over insult?

[quote author=success_07]@ghostofsparta. Ur idea is doable...and i love it. I hope u can weather d storm ahead. I sent u a mail. Do reply cos i think i av a step by step process of how it can b done and accepted worldwide.[/quote]I see no email

Abrantie GH: Microsoft did not create MS-DOS. Bill gates bought an OS called CP/M-80 from a company called Seattle Computer Products for $50,000 and changed the name.

Jeez, what a revelation! does it mean he never did any coding to it, at least to modify it? Nevertheless, I still think he's a smartie. I will do my finding.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]everything modern is not good. there must be a balance. so it is time we cut the only modern cr.ap.

YAS is JUJU is TRADITIONAL TRIBAL YORUBA PAGANISM.

THE MORE WE TRY TO PUT DOWN THESE TERMS, THE MORE THE XTIANS AND MUSLIMS GET A CHANCE TO DESTABILIZE OUR RELIGIONS.[/quote]YAS is not Juju which is still different from TRADITIONAL TRIBAL YORUBA PAGANISM
<RAPS< watch out

I find The Big Questions debates extremely interesting, but I know I am going to enjoy this too

<RAPS<...watch out

BloggingIq: @op, I must say this is interesting.
what I see is that you are on the right frame of mind,

a real game changer will be a OS with holographic display,
now thats what the world needs

Sure, what I have in mind is 10% closer but doesn't project holographically.

2buff: It matters not what book or cover you intend to portray. People have better things to do with their lives and time than to spend it catering to or trying to understand a seemingly pompous person (You wouldn't care much for this person if you met them either). The world isn't centered on you and frankly it has matters bigger than your person. The onus is on you to give a better impression of yourself to others.

As to how does one know where they need to be in life ? They typically don't, which is why you have to work on your attitude lest you simply end up burning bridges you never knew you were meant to use. All these people, you speak of never got where they got to without others.

You will soon find that, in any matter as relating to business, relationship is often much more important than the product itself.

That said, all the best in bringing your ideas to fruition.
Try googling and buying books on OS concepts. Reason is, software is wildly dependent on hardware.
So any OS with a different "root" from what already exists would require hardware different from what already exists, which equals obscene amounts of money.
to that end, I would still advice you take a look at linux. You don't seem to be getting the explanation of how the linux shell is seperated from presentation layer.
This comes from a lack of a foundation in OS/kernel concepts. so try read up on that stuff.

Cheers friend.

2buffoon please stop derailing this thread.....I beg of you

2buff:
Sincerely speaking kid, by the measure of your character, you are not worth helping.
You will soon find out as you move on in life that acquiring all the skill in the world without character, destroys many a dream. The people who are meant to help you, you WILL push away with that pointless attitude, and you will be left all alone. No one gets to where they need to be in life "all by themselves".

My obviously misjudged attitude style here doesn't necessarily define how I behave off-cyberspace. I was once lambasted by an over-religious friend-turned-religionist over a book I was reading titled: "The Devil's Triangle" which is about the chronicled events of the Bermuda phenomenon, she thoughts I was prepping for occultic stuffs because I suppose what flashed to her mind was the triangle used in occult pentagram, she eventually felt stupid when she read the preface. I guess that's why they say 'one shouldn't judge a book by it's cover'.

Secondly, which law or whose theory dictates that No one gets to where they need want to be in life all by themselves...How does one know where one need to be?

Javanian: You really need to work on your attitude....

I do that everyday

[quote author=just_thinking]kelvin mitnic is a hacker and not an OS developer. and secondly bill gate created a Dos OS with paul alen for ibm computer. am not sure u will pay a kobo of ur money to buy such OS. the OS of our generation are more sophisticated than that. i strongly advice to take advice or less u wuld av wasted alot of time trying to create OS that u might not end up completing.[/quote]Who doesn't know he started MSDOS, stop your hostility and tell us something I don't know like an hint.

Javanian: @ all the Programmers here, why are you guys never in the programming section??...

Maybe they will now given this thread making the front page were they mostly lurk, I'm glad and grateful.

Femsyn: From ur tone of language and approach. It seems u have it all figured out and quite proud, to say d least. Like someone rightly pointed out, u're probably still a baby programmer, judging by most of ur non-techy assertions. Listen and learn!!

Guy didn't you read the part where I said I regard myself a n000b.

2buff: One last piece of advice that will save you a few unneccessary lessons....tone down the arrogance.
Arrogance in general is counter-productive, but arrogance while still in a state of mediocrity is the beginning of apt destruction.

Please kindly point me to the arrogance in my responses. Was Microsoft been arrogant for initiating something that is totally new from the likes of DOS/CLI operated Sinclair ZX-81, Amstrad and Atari etc. In Nigeria trying to be a beginner like the Wright Brothers of aviation is asking for condemnation.

greateros: Wiser than god? well i don't know about that but what i do know for sure is that he is a good man -

@Red text^^^: Must you know about it? Eros wasn't even that significant among the Olympians, muchless of beingn great, I even doubt if Eros can make it to a "Top 10 Hall of Fame" in the Greek pantheon, however, you assumed 'greateros' for certain reasons best known to you, perhaps to hyperbolize Eros or just to express irony as regarding your username, but why then can't you at least take it with sarcasm when kmcutez wrote: "From these words uttered by Obama, he is far wiser than God"? Why must you obey the urge to react to whatever compares to the God of the Abrahamic faiths - YAHWHEH aka Jeovah? Must it unnerve you or any religionists if I wrote - Orunmilla is wiser, far powerful and more realer than Jesus?

@MacDaddy & Logicboy03
Aren't you the same users, I'm now confused.

ooman: according to the transcript which i downloaded, the evolutionists AND ATHEISTS won. GREAT NEWS

Hey I'm downloading it now in HD, 1.15GB, where'd you got the transcript from? I'd like to have it subtitled

cyrexx: the message is that Buddhism is not a dogmatic belief system like Abrahamic religions. it is willing to accomodate modern scientific discoveries.

@Bolded: Do you think the same for the metaphysic that I term YAS(Yoruba Advanced Sciences) denigrated as Juju and Traditional Tribal Paganism of West-Africa?

WhiZTiM: ...
Well it is. Its a striving Operating System(written from scratch) that uses exact model of the Microsoft Windows NT Kernel... And so far, those guys are trying and have still been developing it!

It sounds like it's still fashioned on Windows' GUI which is completely different from what I have in mind. A complete overhaul in GUI-looks far beyond Unix/Linux and Wintel based OSs

WhiZTiM: Since u said its not something so big that you are after, ... Just start by checking out these...
Writing MBRs
Bootstrapping and Boot loaders...
Processor instruction sets..
Processor' supervisor modes and interrupts (depending on what type of kernel you want to make)...
File system structures...
Hardware Abstraction Layers (HAL)...
Handling and decoding Hardware interrupts...e.g from input devices...
Display and Output devices...
Synchronization...
Virtual Address mapping.
Assembly language may be required at some point.
Providing services and API to run processes on user space mode.
Context switching etc...

These are the kind of info I was asking for. May Olodumare bless you

WhiZTiM: Afterall, Some embedded OS had their 1st version written in a few months... But took years of continous development to become acceptable..
Seriously, you gona need a lot time... Probably some finite percentage of your life time...But for the start, I suggest you should attempt to write a small OS of a few thousand lines for the RISC MIPS processor. It doesnt have overly complex instructions like the IA x86, x64 families. There are some MIPS environment emulator around. Google it. Goodluck.

Thanks for the heads-up, can you shed more light on what embedded OS implies, as to what alternative?

crossfire: Game programming is simply out of this world, look at the minimax algol. Try developing a simple chess program. Or simply look at the source of "stockfish". (Stockfish is an open source chess program).I've looked at an early version of LINUX called MINIX ( i'm talking of hundreds of thousands of lines of code) and my little lazy brain could wrap around some of the concepts and data structures (I'm a software developer, and a chess enthusiast), but anytime i look at the internals of "stockfish" i feel like a child playing with sand. It looks like this program was written by aliens . There is another one called "Robbolito" that's simply crazy inside and except for a few "anonymous" comments on one russian blog nobody really knows who wrote this program .
Now stockfish is a console app that runs through an already developed UI like "arena" so it doesn't touch on graphics. You need an advanced level understanding of maths and physics before you can develop game apps that manipulate the graphics card masterly like as soccer or even car racing games do.
Desktop apps are developed with C++, C# java, python, but games are predominantly created with c. Now unrestricted c is simply mind bending and very unforgiving. I always tell my students that c is the latin of programming languages
Lets not over flog this : game programming != computer programming.

Kindly provide a response to my response on your beautiful reply ^^^ here:https://www.nairaland.com/1203855/developing-operating-system-what-prerequisites#14441934 Tnx