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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 2:09pm On Mar 30
Jolene474:


I don’t think the financial means is an issue for me, I think I could cover the trip without resulting to public funds for any reason sir, I take about about 600k every month…. and other little credit I get. Is it wrong for for account to receive other deposits or I should keep it strictly for salary and expenses so I don’t cause more scrutiny?
Even if you take 10 million monthly, ECO is going to go through your documents same way… so it’s always better to think ahead
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 6:55am On Mar 30
Jolene474:

Please also except my salary, can other funds come into my account? I saw here they always say your deposited amount was more than your normal salary.
How much is your salary?
If you feel all is not well, then delay the trip and keep a clean financial bank account of strictly your salary and use that.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 7:25pm On Mar 29
Jolene474:
I’ve been asking questions here and mostly get ignored, please you guys should help me scrutinize and assist me.
I’ve my salary account which has a sufficient balance of about 9M and I also have another account which is my savings, I have about 6M there and it has been there for many months now. I really do not know how you guys can best explain this to the Visa Officer, I know I have to explain how the funds got there. While I can explain all the money on my salary account, the savings I got was from December contract I did and I left it there..
How can I best explain to the Officer for them to understand clearly, if anyone has submitted a savings statement along side their application. Kindly advise y’all.
The contract you did, surely there are proofs of the contract on paper?
You should provide those alongside adding a paragraph pf this in your cover letter and explain like you are talking to a 5 year old while referencing each document you will be submitting of the contract. If you have also done this kind of contracts in the past, you can choose to make mention of those with proofs as well.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 2:41pm On Mar 29
EmirOfBodija:
Thank you so much for the kind advice. What do you mean by ‘good’ documentation in this context?
Also, I’ve noted the comments her and won’t be making any applications for now. However, my wife’s birthday and graduation is on July 14 and 16. Would that be a good time (3 and half months away) again?
On the account, the plan is to use a fresh one built over the next 3 months for her even tho she’s not spending her own money.
Thanks.
Whether she is spending her money or not, they want to see her bank statement now and are ready to scrutinise it. You should chill out a bit. 3 and half months again from now when you are not ready to ‘wait’ to address all the pre existing issues that have resulted in refusals 3 times.
You keep saying she is not spending her money, it is immaterial now as she has refusals due to that reason and her financial records must be addressed. The next visa officer would not overlook her 3 refusals. For the 4th person to approve a visa, they would want to make sure she adequately meets the conditions and I’m afraid this brings more scrutiny.
It is same as you, say you work in a a bank and a particular customer’s requests have been refused 3 solid times, even if it were the 1st time you were meeting the application as a bank agent, you would want to make sure all past 3 bank agents are not made to appear stupid and so would go by the books word for word if the application were to be approved. Everyone’s past history counts, stop throwing it under the table. Again if she is denied for your wife’s graduation/birthday which are even excusable to me, won’t everyone still go on about their lives? so why not take your time and get it right?

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 12:20pm On Mar 29
EmirOfBodija:
Thank you for your reply.
We were actually contemplating on not adding it before since we’ve stated she’s unemployed and she won’t be contributing anything significantly to the trip. I didn’t know that would raise concerns about her financial circumstances.

Also, documents like house ownership and consent letter from husband were used as evidence of ties to home.

However, I’ll be glad to hear suggestions on the whether a 2 months statement with just about 130k as closing balance and regular credits from family will be sufficient.
hello, with 3 or more refusals a further half baked application will do you no good. You must add her bank statements.
You showed 1 month… they queried it, now you say 2 months with 130k… so where is the rest of the 1.3million and why is it gone in such a short period?
Hold on until she has at least 6 months worth of ‘good’ documentation before you proceed. They are not stupid and with 3 refusals already she is gunning for a 4th with the way you are reasoning/taking things casually.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 10:48am On Mar 29
EmirOfBodija:
Thanks for your comment.

The bank statement is not low. In fact, the statement showed that she has 1.3m as closing balance and she had a total of 170k as credit from her sons during the one month period. She only intend to spend 50k

My fear was that the ECO dwelled on the previous refusal despite saying this new one is reviewed based on it own merit.

Now, I am not sure what do. Is it advisable to apply as soon as possible.

Note: she’s had 3 refusal based on different reasons which are corrected in subsequent application.
I see you provided 1 month bank statement alone for her? Why was that? Given she has at least previous denials, why the risk? .. then they are seeing 1.3m which they can’t adequately assess. Anhan. That’s what they were trying to explain in the last paragraph of the refusal letter.
If you have previous denials, you already on 50% and should be ready to make your circumstances very plain and easy to change the ECO’s mind from finally stamping a refusal.
Why are you reapplying immediately? Have her circumstances changed significantly?
Given the rush and now this application has been denied, she is certainly not travelling now. So why not take your time and get it right? What’s the urgency?
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 2:59pm On Mar 26
Come again. You have only 2k+ in your account in total?
Is this correct? If yes, this is too small.
I would not sponsor anyone with 2k alone. Its risky.
Also the person you are inviting you say petty trading but has 2.5 million . How was this gotten?
Is there any documentation to show proof? Have these funds been there a long time or just last week was deposited to inflate her accounts?

Then you want to provide 3 months bank statement from yourself, 2 months from your wife and then 1 month for the applicant.
Obviously you have done no homework.
This has red flags all over it and will not work
Suzam:
Trying to invite my mother-in-law to uk for atleast 10days to meet grandchild
She's a trader, own a shop (business not registered) na foodstuff she dry sell and have like 2.5m in her acct.
I'm covering air fare
Got £2k+ in my acct
Will dis fly?

From me
Payslip
3months Statement
Letter from me
Contract from wrk
Brp
Residencial agreement

Wife
Mother and daughter picture
2 months statement (works part time)
Affidavit since no birth cert
Brp

Mother-in-law
1month acct stat
applicant passport, ID
Letter from her
Travel itinerary
More family pics
Pics of her at her shop
Some Receipt of shop rent
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 3:27pm On Mar 24
The success of visa applications often hinges not just on the documents provided, but on the clarity and persuasiveness with which the case is presented.
Do everything and present every document unique to your case/situation that can assuage the Entry Clearance Officer (ECO) ‘s fears that you are a potential overstayer.
It is also advisable to draft a cover letter, succinctly summarizing the key points of the application, how each requirement is met, and why the visa should be granted. This can help frame the application in a way that is easily digestible for the ECO, ensuring they have all necessary information at their fingertips.

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Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by giselle237: 11:40pm On Mar 23
samuel321:
You no go fall boss. Thanks for this.
I wouldn’t risk that if I were you. What if along your application you are requested to provide wedding photos or her passport stamps to show she was physically present at the wedding? What then do you do?
You can go the unmarried partner route since you are not married and provide all the required documents extensively. Goodluck
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 5:14pm On Mar 22
Drphade:

When i sent this application in 2018, I had over £9000 pounds in my personal accounts to which I sent the statement, I also sent letter of introduction from my work place. They should also at least have taken into consideration that I've travelled there before. I still travelled to the USA after this denial. I'm not a flight risk, i only want to enter to sit for an exam.
Other than employment letter what else can I use to show this
* applicant passport, National ID card
*if employee, payslip same reflecting in bank account
* leave letter, letter of no objection from employer
*travel itinerary detailing what you would be doing for each day of your trip, no assumptions
* exam booking confirmations
*if retired, pension slip same reflecting in bank account
*bank statements
* property documents if any
* car documents if any
*any relatives/kids/siblings/parents who are living with them
Their relevant documents
Sponsor documents (UK)
*your passport/brp/visa
*your morgagte/rental house papers
*your payslip
*your bank statements
*invitation letter

Most important write a detailed cover letter explaining all circumstances well and what happened in your previous refusals. For detailed cover letter, search for sokotogudali’s example on this thread and use..

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 3:33pm On Mar 22
Drphade:

That's why I presented a sponsor since I know I cannot foot the bill myself. What is the essence of providing a sponsor if I still have to show that I can do it myself.
These people are not serious, meanwhile I've been to the UK 3 times before and the USA three times before for study and vacation
This refusal was in 2018. I want to apply again this year.
The onus is on you to prove that you are not a flight risk plus intending immigrant, has nothing to do with the sponsor. You must prove your own circumstances whether there is a sponsor or not. .. you as an adult should be able to sponsor a holiday for yourself if you want it, if you can’t then you shouldn’t really be bothering as anything can happen and then the sponsor is unable to fund you, you will then recourse to public funds. They don’t want that and so will happily deny your visa until you understand this.
You need to show that something must make you return to wherever you’re coming from… presenting a sponsor does not prove this in any way.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 1:47pm On Mar 22
Drphade:
Please what are your thoughts on the attached refusal letter?
You omitted everything concerning your own personal circumstances and still declared a whooping 2 months visit to be sponsored. No nau.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 1:45pm On Mar 22
Childofgrace18:

If they need transit, it will be boldly written. Even waka now too will tell you.
It is sort of obvious you don’t know what is happening… never mind

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 1:40pm On Mar 22
Childofgrace18:

You aren't correct. If you need transit visa, it will be boldly stated before booking the flight either online if via third party. My wife travelled through that same route to Manchester in February, we need provide any additional visa.
I hope you would pay for the person when they are prevented from boarding in 2024? Several people I know have been denied boarding for not having the ATV whether you leave the plane or not. Thats why all those tickets are the cheapest to get. Pls dnt pass wrong info.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 6:43am On Mar 22
Childofgrace18:

You don't need any visa once you aren't living the airport.
Incorrect. This has changed since for Nigerian and 3rd country passport holders. To cross the Schenghen area whether you leave the plane or not, you require Airport transit visa or provide a Japanese, Canadian or American visa or passports etc
cc billyfranc
https://france-visas.gouv.fr/en/web/france-visas/airport-transit-visa

https://www.esteri.it/en/servizi-consolari-e-visti/ingressosoggiornoinitalia/visto_ingresso/paesi_soggetti_visto_transito_aeroportuale/
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 11:53pm On Mar 21
billyfranc:
Lol! I'm kinda immune to it.
I'm yet to book and I'm tempted to book now, hence the question. What do you think of KLM or Airfrance with one connecting flight/layover? Must I have Schengen or transit visa to use them?
with your Nigerian passport and lone UK visa… Yes
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 8:49pm On Mar 18
Izanghi:
Hi, everyone. I am a student in USA, but my wife is going on a 4 day tourism visit, she's planning to see some tourist places with no prior travel history, she has a US denial. She works in one of the top banks in Nigeria, and her bank has given her an introductory letter. She is presenting around £4,400 and planned to spend #6 million for the 4 days visit.
1) Does she needs a sponsorship letter from me, as she is already stating she's funding herself but gets additional income from me which she will be presenting through her domiciliary bank statement that shows that I normally send money to her.

2) will £4000k+ be enough proof of fund for a 4 days UK visit to London or she should pick some other cheaper UK cities to visit?
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6 million budget for 4 days trip is a lot.. the duration of the trip is also not in tandem with how much money they intend to blow especially when they have not travelled anywhere else before.
UK does not care if you have 1 billion to spend, they just want to see some sort of semblance and explainable budget within the confines of your earning power. Not above your earning power.
If your earning power can not afford the trip, then they don’t want you to come.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 3:04pm On Mar 18
Childofgrace18:
Please how much is the yellow card at the airport? My niece is traveling to Manchester on second week of April and she booked Egypt airline. Or should we get the yellow fever card at Asaba airport? Please I await your response. Thanks.
Asaba airport is not one of the international airports in Nigeria so I doubt it would be done there. Ask your niece to visit the Port Health Authority in Delta state, get their vaccination and certificate. At Lagos or Abuja there is a racketeering going on for it. The cost should be 2k ideally, I wont pay more than 5k to get it done if it were me.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 6:15pm On Mar 15
afoobiggy700:
Good morning everyone, please can a couple living in different countries apply for Tier 2 visa and dependant visa sametime?
married or unmarried? They can. Either way they must each prove beyond reasonable doubt that the marriage is genuine and subsisting.
Travel / Re: UK Skilled Worker Visa / Health And Care Worker Visa / Qualified Teacher Route by giselle237: 1:55pm On Mar 14
obynocute:

So on this, which is advisable to come with? Local driver license or international driver license?
Regards to driver license on jobs requirements.
Your usual driver’s licence is what will be asked of you. You don’t need any international drivers licence for the first 12 months after your entry.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 9:18am On Mar 13
degelinglacis:
Why would it be hard?
She’s my mom, I want her to visit me
it is not hard. State your reasons on the form. Thats all.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 7:24am On Mar 13
Poanan:
Yes. But when I put in destination country as UK . The cover was in euros. The amount insurance cost was about 40k naira but medical cover was in euros. So i got confused let me not pay for something and then it will be that I can't use it. I was expecting to see what it covers in pounds. I was seeing things like emergency medical expenses cover 35k euros. This and that all in euros. That is why i feel uncomfortable with it. Check AXA Nigeria site u will see what i am saying.
Any particular reason you buying travel insurance for UK though? It is not needed for standard visitor visa.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 6:48pm On Mar 12
mabella123:
Pls I need an advice, my salaries in the past 6 months has not been consistent that is, it has been increasing with some fractions like 10k and above. I am applying for a visitors visa, what figure should I put as salary? Since the are all different Secondly, I had a France visa refusal with I have stated in my application. should I attach my refusal letter in my checklist of documents that I am submitting? Or there is no need.
1. You can put an average and address/mention this in the additional information part of the form as you have done here
2. Refusal letter not needed.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 6:46pm On Mar 12
crackcrack:

Thanks for your response. I don’t exactly understand what you mean by “you'll be in for a rude awakening when the time difference between when you started your current job that pays you and now cannot be able to account for that sum of money.”
I’ve been working for the same company for five years, and I’ve been in my current position for about a year. I have no lump sums or additional credits to my account except my salary. So I don’t think the ECO should have any issues with my finances or how the money was accumulated. I’m more worried I’ll get denied over ties to Nigeria.
Given all this, do you think my employment is sufficient home/economic ties? Thank you.
Economic ties are part of home ties. In this case seems like the job you have in Nigeria is well paid and been with them for 5 years is a +. Shows some stability. Stop been scared. Just fill the financial part of the form well.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 9:15pm On Mar 08
Do not give yourself a headache.. some have even laid low for 20 whole years and after 20 years file via the long residence route. How can a person decide to be illegal for 20 years? But it is what is in vogue + there is a route(loophole) to this.

On facebook they are in their thousands and hundreds of thousands . Asylees get free accommodation, free meals, free nhs services, free prescriptions, kids must be registered in schools, living stipends, you get more if pregnant or if you have children…. Forget all the reporting stuff… Asylum seekers are not worried. The numbers are enormous.

Now healthcare workers are been trained on how to manage asylum or refugee seekers because the numbers are huge and they are now a very growing part of the system especially the babies, children and young adults.
I can tell you for a fact, a lot of people choose to stay back and hide for whatsoever number of years than go back home.
They are doing cash in hand jobs, not paying taxes and still getting all of the above. It is what it is. They are not suffering as you say. If they were, they would perhaps choose to return home or go somewhere else.
The era of going to Croydon or Liverpool to sign is also not as strict as it used to be.

All I am saying is that no matter the route, as long as all these loopholes - asylum, refugee, 7 years, private life, human rights, discretionary leave, 20 years etc continue to exist, there is nothing you nor I can do.

Zahra29:

This is why some people choose to lay low if there is an unrealistic chance of asylum success (which tbh would apply to the vast majority of Nigerian asylum applications) because you bring yourself under the direct radar of the home office.
People rarely reveal all of the details of their journey as an illegal immigrant- most times it's impossible to express the amount of mental, emotional, physical and financial stress they have gone through. It is no where near as easy as it might seem.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 6:33pm On Mar 06
Zahra29:


Agree with the bolded which is it's almost always better to go back and keep your options open/make another application.
Preferably before overstaying as this could complicate/delay any subsequent applications.
Regarding seeking asylum, this only works to buy time if there is a huge asylum backlog. However the govt now seems committed to working through asylum applications quickly and a refusal could be returned before a scapegoat spouse is found.
After the refusal re asylum, you are allowed to appeal or file fresh claim. There is no definite shut door and that’s why the fiasco. They go on to give birth and hoping to buy time- 7 years to put in for private life route.
And a lot get to prolong and prolong and meet up with this 7 year timeline.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 3:32pm On Mar 06
Zahra29:


Once an individual becomes an overstayer, it is virtually impossible to regularise via the marriage route. The only open route now is human rights via a British/settled child or via private life.
Not exactly. The spouse visa route to a settled person or person with British citizenship is actually the only route where you won’t suffer the brunt of your previous overstay period so harshly IF YOU GO BACK to your home country and apply from there to return as the spouse of a British citizen + declare ALL of one’s true immigration history in the UK on your application form with no lies.
Some go as far as seeking asylum inbetween so that their 3c leave is not broken, then when they find the spouse(scapegoat) they would now try to do the spouse one. It is a whole mess with so many loopholes.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 8:38pm On Mar 05
Beehorn:
Hello everyone, I am trying to apply for my dependant in nigeria to come join me in the uk for a visa less than three years. What I was shown threw me off balance, if made a mistake.
I was told to pay 384 pounds for standard application. I guess its supposed to be 284 pounds.
Also, I don't understand the application for pbs ,start up written alongside the amount.
Thanks everyone.

374.00 USD - application for PBS, Start-up, Innovator or Global Talent – Child visa
You quoted 374 usd down.. pls check the currency. 1 usd is not equal to 1 £. Maybe that’s where the confusion is setting in.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 2:58pm On Mar 05
mayowa94:

No
She will get to Heathrow on the 27th.

Change the flight. Her visa is not valid before 28th, so what airline would board her on 27th? There’s no point staying on this thread going back and forth to be sincere

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 10:29am On Mar 05
mayowa94:
Good morning
My sis booked her flight for the 27th and we just noticed that her visa is from 28th
Would this be an issue?
It is. Change the flight.
Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 10:18am On Mar 05
tony2478:
I know there is nothing like Conference Visa but my Visit Visa is to primarily attend a business conference,so I want to know if my Employer is fully Sponsoring my trip as a senior staff of the company.

If my Employer is fully Sponsoring and am contributing like 1 pound,if I don't have much money in my salary account.I hope it will fly
this is all fake and made up. UKVI picks this up quickly. Try another method

Update- Just seeing that I have severally told you you are not been sincere and this is all made up. Goodluck. I won’t be giving any inputs again.

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Travel / Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 12:58am On Mar 05
melaniga:
Not yet marked green on the website. I called UKVI about 4 weeks after her biometrics and I was told decision has been on the application. About an hour after my call, I got a mail confirming that decision has been made and that I should contact tls directly for the return of document. Now tls is saying they may not have been officially communicated to.
you need to wait for the pick up email from TLS.

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