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Gbola5:
I know all this. Im asking how you came to know them, since you're show only, and non of them are in or have been mentioned.

Another game of thrones forum. A book reader used it as a point that the freys are d1ck riders for favour. No honor or code.

I think robb's mom tried to warn him too.

Gbola5:
He was. Though he didnt have the better army when he went campaigning(some 20,000 out of the North's 40,000-50,000) . Quality beats Quantity in this case.

So, in your opinion, did Tywin stand a chance against robb as at the time of the red wedding? And why do you think so?

BraniacX:
Wrong @ the bolded, at that point in time, he stood a better chance at victory than rob stark, tywin only made one mistake, he thought rob a greenhorn despite the many seasoned campaigners he had among his bannermen and dismissed him, he deeply regretted that afterward, tywin was playing a waiting game because rob had the only thing tywin valued as much as his family name and that was jamie his son, true they supposedly had both stark girls but to tywin and even to rob their brother, they didn't have same negotiating value. With jamie as his prisoner, rob went ahead and bled lannister armies until only tywins main force at harrenhal(which later went to kingslanding at the battle of the blackwater) was large enough and strong enough to face rob, but tywin couldn't or didn't face rob because he couldn't predict rob and had come to respect him as an adversarý besides he i think had come to realise that rob would be more easily vanquished away from the battle field and he was right, he looked for the chink in robs northern ranks and found a ready made one in the far reaching roose bolton who deliberately orchestrated many losses of northern forces (mostly soldiers of other northern houses) when rob garrisoned him against tywin at harrenhal and went west to ravage the western kingdom of the lannisters and this and i think with tywin's connivance and this much was evidenced during boltons journey from harrenhal to the twins to attend the wedding where he tactfully betrayed non bolton northern troops by ferrying his troops across first and leaving the rest to be massacred in an ambush led by gregor clegane the mountain and rob stark didn't help matters much by beheading rickard karstark his bannerman to whom half his army owed their primary fealty and loyalty causing the loss of half his fighting forces.

Am not much of a reader, sorry, didn't read all that.

Don't forget that robb wasn't fighting for the iron throne.

The Lannisters could barely get by the Baratheons if not for tyrion's genius and robb had a better army.

Was robb not also termed a master planner? Seriously though, a lot of game of thrones forums online say the same.

Gbola5:
How do you know this, if it hasn't been said on the show ? Its not mostly Targs though, the Frey's name their kids after a member of any house they want to curry favour from. Just two Freys are known to have Targ names.

You know I haven't read the books, but just going by what you book fans know since this price of info is actually useless to the show.


-Aegon Frey, also known as Jinglebell
-Aenys Frey
-Aegon Frey, an outlaw named Aegon Blood born
-Rhaegar Frey, a pie
-Ser Aemon Rivers, a bastard

shows at least 5 freys named after Targs.

Gbola5:
Tywin was smart alright, but he didnt plan the wedding. The twelfth son of Walder Frey, Lothar and Roose Bolton did, Tywin only gave them a thumbs up and a go ahead, also a promise from the crown that they would not be persecuted and instead offered rewards. It was Walder's idea to sew Greywind's head unto Robb's.
Walder Frey is a peevish old man who lives
to handle his young wife and brood over all
the slights he's suffered. I have no doubt he
hatched this ugly chicken, but he would
never have dared such a thing without a
promise of protection.~Tyrion.

Tywin's plan was to be an arrow or poison. He planned to get rid of Robb through political manuevering since he couldn't defeat him on the battlefield. That's were he can be considered smart, but don't give credit for the wedding. What Frey is named after a Lannister ?

Edited it. Brain fart I guess.

I think Tywin deserves more than 50% credit for the red wedding because he gained more and lost less.

He was able to take out his greatest opponent he stood no chance against, and also distance himself from possible fallout in just one stroke of genius.

Aisha95:
Good effort trying to find a soul mate for yourself by concocting a false folktale of not been able to socialize with people and bla bla bla. . . And you had to include your BBM pin thereby exposing your real intentions. I see.
Unfortunately, no one's going to be that gullible, to fall for your cheap gimmicks. . . Get the fvck outta here.

Why soo much anger?

tosyne2much:
Bro, any thing I post on nairaland is coming right from my head.. If you see it elsewhere, be rest assure that it was high-jacked


Back to the matter, I no know why the girl carry the matter for head.. D tin pain am gan

I don't think there is supposed to be a hyphen between "high" and "jacked"...#justSaying

I heard that a season 8 has been more or less confirmed.

simdam500:
I'm a newbie here and I just started the series some weeks back, though I didn't like it at first but I finally did. I'll be starting Season 4 soon and it hurt to loose Robb and Cat to that Lord fray just because he didn't pay his debt of marrying one of his daughters, that is not even the scary part but killing his pregnant wife

Reading the thread have spoilt a lot for me but I'll keep going on.

About the book, I'll read it when it comes my way... great series!

Are u guys saying season 6 will be starting next year 2016 If that is true I better hmmmmmmm

The red wedding just shows you how genius Tywin actually is.

The red wedding happened because Tywin Lannister wanted it to happen. But the freys agreed to it because of what Robb did. The Boltons agreed because they are treacherous bastards.

It was easy for Tywin to convince walder [s]because the freys are like Lannister wannabes. They even name their children after Lannisters children.[/s] because of what Robb did to him.

Now, I say Tywin is a genius because here you are blaming walder Frey when it was all tywin's doing.

Edited**

They were named after famous ppl in Westeros, mostly targaryens, not Lannisters

Tried to stay away from this thread so I don't get Ant-man spoiled.

Just saw the movie

My best part was that Hispanic guy narrating a story and then the onscreen actors mouthed his words.

The movie was alright I guess considering the lame name it has. I didn't get to see the 2nd end credit scene tho, will download later.

AAoU is no more showing in cinemas, have to wait for the clear version to pirate

You guys that play games against AI are trying sha. I usually get bored playing against AI no matter the game. Since I started playing online, I haven't touched any campaign mode on any game. I prefer to fight against a human being and labs in their face when I defeat them.

gmyguy:
To find the black box and investigate the cause of the crash. So as to see how to improve air safety for those of us potential customers

The black box data will still be recoverable but it might not be locatable. This is because the beacon runs in batteries that last 24hrs or so and has a short detection range. That means unless the black box is located physically by luck, finding it is almost impossible.

blackbee:
These people are dead.. Why are they still looking for the plane?

Because knowing what happened to the plane will be useful to prevent it from happening again in the future.

You should watch air crash confidential on discovery.

Gurgle:
I used the man and wife point as an example. Anywhere where a man and woman are concerned, the same issue will arise

I don't see how its not a feminist point. I didn't say men and women need to do exactly the same thing for each other, just that they are equal.

Submission to a man doesn't mean that a woman is not equal to him. And not submitting to a woman doesn't mean the man is better than she is

Actually, it does.

sub·mit/səbˈmit/
verb
1. accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person.

2. present (a proposal, application, or other document) to a person or body for consideration or judgment.

You only submit to someone of superior force or authority.

Gurgle:
Feminism endorses equality between men and women. I would say it does, essentially

I wouldn't tell a man to be submissive to his wife. Did I say I would?

From your tone it doesn't seem like youre open to this debate so lets just agree to disagree

You Provided it as a point to prove the bible was feminist and I am saying that if you can't say the same to a man, then it isn't a feminist point.

That aside, all your points were for man and wife relationship. They weren't points of feminism.

eesy:
I dont know how to use torrents. can you help. i am using pc hope it works there?

Go to o2tvseries.com or tvseries.in

MissIndependent:
I really do hope he was dreaming...


Season 6 keh? Wait for April 2016

I hate this

Freemanan:
I replied a post that says the Bible should be the guide for Feminism.. I was opposing it. You should read more and type less Mate...

And I was agreeing with you.

Freemanan:
I am a realist. You don't seem to have that in your inventory. Enough said. Good morning.

Maybe being a realist isn't such a good thing. Accepting every situation you find yourself in is not a good idea to survive in this world.

Gurgle:
Where is says there is no slave or free, Jew or gentile, man or woman as long as we are all in Christ.

Husbands, love your wives as yourself. (and wives submit to your husbands)

If a man were really to love a woman that much, would he want to stop her from achieving her full potential in this world?

We can extrapolate all the info we need. That's why Scripture is always timeless

1. Has nothing to do with feminism

2. Will you tell a man to be submissive to his wife too? Don't you know what it means to submit to someone?

3. Yeah, what about a woman that is not his wife? Does feminism apply to your wife alone? And please don't quote "love your neighbours as yourself"

4. The new testament doesn't address the issue head-on. Don't try to bend words to suit your argument.

Freemanan:
Sorry to intrude. This argument cannot hold. If the Bible is a guide for Feminism and the Bible itself has no tenet of this ideology, what discretion are WE to use in applying it to the said movement?

I have no idea what the guy is talking about. The old testament was anti feminist, the new testament was mildly anti feminist.

Yet he thinks the bible should be the moral ground for feminism

Freemanan:
You still beg the question....
Is the society happy?

Who is the society?

Is it not the men and the women? The gays and the heterosexuals?


Or is society a person?

Freemanan:
CAN YOU GOOGLE 100MILLION IF I GIVE YOU?
I JUST GAVE YOU A SAMPLE... even a child could get the message.

But the message is a stupid message. Ofcourse, a few women made it in this world.

passey:
"my people talk am say even for beer parlor Oga dey."
" There is hierarchy even in heaven"
Having said that, respect for women is desirable, compulsory and good but feminism got it wrong when it says the man and the woman are the same! They are not equals, they are complements! A man can never be a woman, he was not made to be so and cannot be.. gays are idiots. A woman can never be man, she was not made to be so.
Two people cannot both drive a car at the same time! So the woman and the man must understand their role and places in the marriage arrangement. Any attempt at exchange of roles will definitely lead to disaster and unhappiness. If the man is equal to the woman, na gay marriage be that o. Afterall no woman wants to marry a sissy man and no man wants to marry a fellow man or even tomboy.
The religious arrangement of God being the head of the man and the man being the head of the woman in a relationship predicated on love is a perfect arrangement and so far the best.
Feminism na trash. I want masculinism to start so that woman go dey toast man, pay bride price, protect, give man belle, tolerate nagging etc

Feminism doesn't say men and women are equal.

It says give them equal opportunities and chances.

firstEVA:
. When did I tell u I am a feminist?

You should be

Freemanan:
Not necessarily love.
you see, the legalization of gay marriage in America is justice served for homosexuals but imagine the hurt the parents of these gays will feel knowing that their country has allowed a union to their own type. So you see, Justice and equity is not happiness.

I think Feminism in Africa should focus more on things that will bring happiness to women rather than fighting a lost course for equity in gender. I might sound Chauvinistic but That's the realistic truth.

Legalisation of gay marriage means that gay marriages are valid in the eyes of the law. It means that the laws of heterosexual marriage such as divorce, prenuptial agreements etc now apply to same sex marriage. Gay ppl have been getting married for centuries but it wasn't a valid union in the eyes of the law.

Your parents not being happy about your choice of life partner has nothing to do with justice and equity.

Justice and equity brings happiness..

The gays are happy, the heterosexuals are happy

The men are happy, the women are happy

Swizdoe:
They are not any better than terrorists, just that they've not begin to kill men yet........
Most Feminist are instigators that believes inciting other females is the only way they can achieve their objective same way Nnamdi Kanu is going about his biafran struggle.
They kinda paint men as their number one enemy that must be destroyed as if men is the only one responsible for the ills in the society. I've encountered some of them on NL and they never make any sense but they have this arrogant attitude that makes them believe their argument is superior

That is not feminism. I carry a bible and start preaching, does that make me a priest?

Gurgle:
For me it becomes a caricature if its not guided by scripture

Lol. The bible is anti feminist. So is the quran. The bible, especially the old testament, was more of culture than actual religion. Things have changed and times have changed.

That's why a man barbing his hair is not more considered a sin. (check leviticus)

BuddhaPalm:
This is can't possibly be a response to my post.

Lol. Did you not compare humans to fruit?

Humans have freewill and a sense of self worth...fruits don't.

Freemanan:
GOOGLE THESE WOMEN...

ISABELLA OF SPAIN...
CATHERINE THE GREAT
MARIE CURIE
WANGARI MATHAI
ELIZABETH I



Goodnight.

Good point. 5 women made it out of about over 3 billion women... such a sound argument.

Lol

Timbuktou:
1. That was a matter of economic-efficiency. Only poor or illiterate men didn't send their daughters to school. The men so sent were expected to, in fact, train up they're younger ones through school and cater for miscellaneous needs. Does it not occur to you that these men sent to school were being groomed for a life of servitude? Sent to school only to provide money for their younger ones? Bottom line, every one has/had a role and responsibility to fulfill.

2. Who's stopping women from stepping up? Aren't there women in all conceivable professions already? Any school depriving females admission on basis of gender?

3. Oh, really? You said feminism is about equal rights for both genders; now you say men should shut up? Which is it, mister? Is feminism for women alone or for both genders? Or are you saying women are to be more equal than men? If not, then, what affects a woman should equally affect a man, should it not? Abo, wetin be the meaning of equality?

4. Refer to point 3.

5. Wrong. Wives are taught to submit to their husbands. There's a distinct difference. Is Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala going to submit to Emeka the vulcaniser?

6. I would like proof of this having easier. Thanks for your cooperation.

7. And that makes it right? That only highlights a flaw in the system. Nobody should be racist to anyone else. Duh.


An oppressed person does not need to become an oppressor to seek redress. They might get restitution if it's practicable, otherwise, they could put an end to the oppression and move on. Becoming an oppressor is not sufficient justification for having suffered oppression, mister. Perhaps, people on that reddit page are dummies who couldn't spot argument fallacies and deal with them accordingly. And yes, an issue is about everyone involved not just the perp or the victim, everybody.

Am on mobile so can't type much

Let me ask you this question.

Do you think women and men are given equal opportunities to prove their worth Looking at history and today?

If your answer is yes, then you must be living under a rock.

If your answer is no, then do you think it's fair that they be given the same opportunities?

If your answer yes, then that if feminism

If your answer is no, then you are part of the problem in today's society.