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deols: If you were banned. You wouldnt have made this post. was it an alternate account?

thehomer: This is just lazy and dishonest. So if he hasn't met someone, then he cannot criticize them? So he couldn't review what those people have said or written? In these modern times, one doesn't have to meet someone in order to know what they think when they've already released materials expressing their views. I've checked out his materials they're online.



You take my advice and be rational and realize that terrorism doesn't help the views of Islam and also realize that innocent people are the targets of terrorism.



Your response to that question shows that you're not yet ready to start thinking straight.



It won't help when you're as yet unable to think straight but this is a partial list. But really you guys need to let go of the conspiracy theories unless you can actually show that it was Jews that were behind it. We already know who the murderers were and they were Muslims. We also know the role played by bin Laden.

arrester: Pastor Adeboye earns my admiration and respect for his sermons, character and comportment,but I believe it is blasphemous and sacrillegious to compare Pastor Adeboye or 0yedepo with Prophet Muhammad(saw) Jesus Christ(as) Moses(as)0r any of the divine Prophets.I am also cocksure if you ask Pastor Adeboye he would reject such unholy comparison. We should be careful about what we say,out of hatred, on religious personalities.As for the person of Prophet Muhammed(saw) golpen has done justice to the topic in his post and I have nothing more to add.

Rexyl: I thought you had been reminded again about what you should know and settle your mind with. The truth that erased confusion in the heart of person that wants to listen and obey, that simple thing: the truth about the message of saving grace of God. Man or his accounts of events may be liable to some errors but only the Spirit speaks the truth even when mind of man is in dark about proper understanding in some aspects. While will you reference history that confuses you instead of settling for the plain truths that are without controversy in the Bible? The truth that has sustained a Christian to behave normally and reasonably in societies. Christians, I mean people who are trained to stay in the knowledge of God, who apply and live in the renewed relationship with God.

thehomer: I'm honoured to be compared to that literary icon.



Did he? Did he ever condemn bin Laden?



Well, he did say it didn't he?



This of course doesn't address the core problem you're facing which is, can those who kill Muslims also be Muslims themselves?



More conspiracy theories. You claim to know that Jews who work there didn't show up. Prove it.



When you get to a computer, try to provide your link.

Rexyl: Just like many of your like minds get confused easily on something they know and what they do not know, but God expects something very great from you only if you have what it takes to possess it: it is what He requires from you, which you are yet to possess. Brace up for the truth, know the truth and live by it. "The truth is that message of Christ does not show God as God of confusion."

Rexyl: people like are just trying to avoid Christ‘s message of salvation to pursue worthless things of vain glory of the earth, which are the makes of deception of Satan. Christ‘s message is purely of facts that reveal how man can live to relate properly with God and do His will in clear and sound mind. Christianity is not about worthless argument on history, events or discovery that weaken ones mind to serve God. God wants you to fear and serve Him in obedience to His command as delivered by Christ‘s message.

thehomer: I don't want his head of his neck, I just don't want to see dishonesty. What you've shown above is just his equivocation. Note the words I put in bold. He recognizes his equivocation yet continues with what he was saying. So is he saying Muslims should be terrorists or not?



So a Muslim cannot kill another Muslim? You must be joking. Really.



And you need to read through what you write before clicking submit. Do you have the names of these Jews and why they didn't show up to work that day? If Jews were present, it was by chance. If they were absent, it was a conspiracy but you've just said that some Jews were present and others were absent. Were you expecting them all to flock to the buildings?



What architectural analysis? How many buildings have been deliberately hit by large planes? What conspiracy are you trying to describe? If you're talking about bombs, how did those who placed them get in and get out of the buildings? And how did the usual workers not see or smell anything different from the previous day?



And I've told you to be rational and logical in your response. I would advice you to avoid conspiratorial thinking. It won't help you solve your problems.

thehomer: I don't want his head of his neck, I just don't want to see dishonesty. What you've shown above is just his equivocation. Note the words I put in bold. He recognizes his equivocation yet continues with what he was saying. So is he saying Muslims should be terrorists or not?



So a Muslim cannot kill another Muslim? You must be joking. Really.



And you need to read through what you write before clicking submit. Do you have the names of these Jews and why they didn't show up to work that day? If Jews were present, it was by chance. If they were absent, it was a conspiracy but you've just said that some Jews were present and others were absent. Were you expecting them all to flock to the buildings?



What architectural analysis? How many buildings have been deliberately hit by large planes? What conspiracy are you trying to describe? If you're talking about bombs, how did those who placed them get in and get out of the buildings? And how did the usual workers not see or smell anything different from the previous day?



And I've told you to be rational and logical in your response. I would advice you to avoid conspiratorial thinking. It won't help you solve your problems.

basilico: Jesus was born around 4 BC. He was crucified by the order of Roman emperor around 33 AD. Why did Allah wait another 600 years later to confirm to muslims 1500 miles away to Mecca from Golgotha that Jesus was not crucified but someone else while muslims claim that he Jesus called out to allah on the cross?

hotwax: Who are you to speak for christians?
Where in the quran did mohammed speak good of Christians?

Mohammed is not a supreme being. He is just a man as he too admitted.
A man can be critisized. People critisize Oyedepo (Winners chapel), Adeboye (redeem), Oritsafejo (CAN). They are human like mohammed.

Is there any difference between Oyedepo and Mohamad?
They both have followers
They both inherited an existing believe (God exist)
They both twisted the existing faith to lure followers
They both wrote literatures. Oyedepo has written more than Mohammed.
Oyedepo/Adeboye has changed so many lives positively. Their followers are not fighting war, causing tumoils all over the world.

Can anyone convince me on why Mohammed deserves more respect than Adeboye.

Jesus christ is a supreme being. Thats why islam believed he was not killed. A supreme being cannot be killed. Islam believes he was replaced, he was not crucified.

GODSON2009: maybe u didnt search hard enuff!!

Al-Hasan Al-Basri says that an old woman came to the messenger of Allah and made a request, O’ Messenger of Allah make Dua that Allah grants me entrance into Jannah. The messenger of Allah replied, O’ Mother, an old woman cannot enter Jannah. That woman started crying and began to leave. The messenger of Allah said, Say to the woman that one will not enter in a state of old age, but Allah will make all the women of Jannah young virgins. Allah Ta’aala says, Lo! We have created them a (new) creation and made them virgins, lovers, equal in age. (Surah Waaqi’ah, 35-37).

"[Muhammad] was heard say: "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy two wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from [Damascus] to San'a".

thehomer: Then why don't you say what the "full content" is? You're trying to justify the fact that a Muslim said all Muslims should be terrorists. Take the time to understand what you're trying to justify. If you're so rational and thinking, then say what you think he meant.



No you've not done that. What you've done is to refuse to accept that they're Muslims because you don't want to accept the condemnation they're facing. Not that you don't agree with what they're doing. After all, they've said they're Muslims, they've said they want Sharia law. Which other religion wants Sharia law?



I don't see what relevance Palin has to play here. Before you forget, the person's actions we're looking at Naik. And bin Laden knew nothing about the 9/11 attacks? Are you serious? This is why I have to say that you Muslims are unwilling to face your problems head on. Where did I say that killing every innocent civilian is justified by that? In fact, that is what Zakir Naik said. Again, he said all Muslims should be terrorists. What you're saying about Jews in the WTC is simply a lie based on conspiracy theories. Or do you have a list of those Jews? Because there is a list of Jews who died in that incident.

I know that your hatred of Jews is based on the Qur'an but really at some point, you should have noticed the absurdity of your position.



I already am in the world of rationality that is why I don't embrace conspiracy theories but you on the other hand are just lost.

double j1: something have been agreed here
1)the bible is made up of; words directly from God, God inspired statements, and statement from men. And
2)the statements from men have certain degree of error in them.
From this i think there is no need to argue further, any one with common sense has an answer to the topic already.