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trustman:
The real problem is that (and it has been shown even on this thread; examples were sighted) Christians are being 'forced' to COMPULSORILY do those things you have listed as NOT being compulsory. That is the tragedy.

It is not the issue of forcing one's belief on another. It is that of simply getting what the scripture says should obtain.

In this case: should the Christian give? Yes. Must the Christian tithe? No.

Exactly, it isn't a must. A quick quiz....should a Christian be forced to stop tithing? If yes, why?

Bidam:
For God's sake!! When will Christians move past this self-destructive arguments and let others feel free to enjoy how God leads them in their daily lives?

I only wish they knew how much time they're wasting. True gospel preachers indeed.

Bidam:
Gombs my man..How's the IPPC going?

Great bro... it's something else. I just knew the job to do is even greater. No more dragging irrelevancies here. I'd start an online outreach to the middle east. Alot of grounds to cover bro. For those here who knew how the church should be, I pray they translate it into the physical. How can God tell them how his church should be, and all they do is type all day, criticizing? It's certain, THEY ARE NOT OF GOD. simple.

I'm off for the morning session. Cheers

Two Kinds Of Destiny -Saturday, November 22nd .

Pastor Chris

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified (Romans 8:30).There’re two destinies for every man.

There’s the natural destiny and there’s the divine destiny. Natural destiny is controlled by such factors as the family in which you were born, your country of birth, the people you’re associated with, the information you’ve received or education, etc. All of these have an impact on your natural destiny.

For example, there’re some who are rich, not by virtue of any achievement of their own, but because of the family to which they were born. That’s their natural destiny.

Natural destiny, however, does not exclude the divine mighty hand of God; He has the generic involvement in the world. The world belongs to Him. But some in the world are His creatures, while some others are His children. He has a good will for all His creatures—everyone in the world—but more specifically, He has a divine destiny for His children—everyone who’s born again.

The divine destiny for any man only begins when he’s born again. That’s when God becomes your Father and starts leading you. That’s when He sends His Holy Spirit to live in you and to guide you. The Holy Spirit then takes residence in the quarters of your heart.

You’re thus different from the world. Like Jesus said in John 15:19, “…I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.” Everyone that’s born again is not of this world. You’ve been chosen out of this world by Jesus. He’s got His mark on you.

How can you tell whether a man is fulfilling natural destiny or fulfilling divine destiny? It's simple: who gets the glory in his life? In the things he does, who gets to be honoured? Who receives the praise? Whose power is behind what he does? For whom does he live? If all the answers turn out to be the Lord, then that's divine destiny, according to the Bible.

Confession...
My life is for the glory of God! I was born to give Him honour, and show forth His virtues and perfection in this world. Your wisdom, grace, and righteousness are revealed, as you make manifest the savour of your knowledge through me in every place; this is my destiny: living for the One who loved me and gave Himself for me!

Further Study:

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. ; 

Ephesians 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 Peter 1:1-21, Ezekiel 27-28
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 3 John, Daniel 9-10

trustman:
So, coming back to tithing and the New Covenant believer; if he claims he is tithing according to its mention in the OT, the question then is what is the OT prescription for tithing and is the NT believer following it as stipulated there? If so how? If not exactly so, why?

I'd take it as you have an answer. Thank you.

trustman:
If what he's doing is a great job then you are all to be very pitied.

Thanks for your pity, you should save it for yourself on your long lost integrity and honesty.

Meanwhile, here's a chance to redemption: Can you quote a clear scripture where Moses lay a curse on non tithers?

Great evening I had...evening to you all. Bidam...great job

nannymcphee:
You want to start again o!! what do you mean BLW is richer than some COUNTRIES? Based on what statistics?

Do a little googling on countries in the carribean, then get back to me. 105million copies of ROR were distributed this year, by N130 or $0.77 it's $81, 000, 000. Leave Bibles, innercity mission, etc out.

Do you know how many of the CE churches worldwide are in internal debt? Owing for rhapsody, owing for partnership, owing for even this past RON ?

Ok, holla me when it's external debt. Shey those CE churches are in BLW? Did I say CE XYZ is richer than some countries, or BLW NATION?

I don't want to wash any dirty linen outside!!

It's your head ache, not mine.

If indeed what you said is true, how come you aren't doing what the early Christians did, they sold their possession & laid it on the apostle feet:not to build church or sponsor books but to share amongst everyone such that no one lacked

How many of your possessions have you sold and laid it on the feet of your Apostle? See how warped your thinking can get? Share so that no one lacked abi? Churches should not be built and books should not be sponsored shey? God help your reasoning. Amen

how has that wealth affected the ordinary folks including those in the ministry?

If you don’t like how things are ran in CE and know how it should be done...please go start your own the right way. Don’t forget to call WinsomeX along. Ordinary folks? So there are rich, average and ordinary in the Church of God? haven't you heard of HELPS dept? What of brethren empowerment initiatives? Your own better idea is to make everyone who is 'ordinary folks' queue, and share for them the monies from the possesion others sold, shey? Clap for yourself

There is a lot you don't know about the ministry, you are just talking based on the little you know, I know staffs of virtually every arm of the minstry, some were my members in school or friends!! So I know what I'm talking about

Yeah right...the honest nannymcphee. I will have to re-learn how to take you very serious.

NB: there is no such thing as staffs, in English language anyway. You don't pluralise staff. Thank you.

GIDEON'S bible:free not to be sold has gone around the world more than any Christian book & the money used in doing that wasn't through tithing or mandated funds

IF you could read, you'd have noticed I said "second only to the Bible". And yes, some folks paid for the Bibles to be shared free.... they are however not more than 120 different languages, are they? And yes "the union" were given responsibility/mandated for funding the Bibles. Read here to help your ignorance

http://www.gideons.org/AboutUs/OurHistory.aspx

How many times have you heard them soliciting for funds?

God help your ignorance.
GIDEONS go around to churches and speak, most Baptists churches have the Gideons there once a year or more and the churches make donations or pledges to help buy bibles for that purpose. Some private individuals give to them yearly as well...when a person donates they can determine where they want the bibles placed, they can be for soldiers (green testaments) or the Red testaments that they hand out at schools.

I'm sure you think God hand it down to them, or they called some folks and asked them to donate or wrote some mega churches for donations. Anyways if they wrote mega churches (I know some who's written CE) for funds, it's not a bad idea.... some churches however has to be mega, no? Or like Candour and WinsomeX, the church should be small for the way is narrow, and only a few find it? Ok ma...

Rhapsody being the second book to the bible according to God or man? why should a book be compared to a bible?

Are you sure you are ok... is that what I wrote or what your smart mind could conjure?

those 105millions copies if translated into Cash, do you know the good it will do amongst the Christian community & humanity

That's the Spirit of Judas...
[NLT] John 12:5 “That perfume was worth a year’s wages. It should have been sold and the money given to the poor.”
[NLT] John 12:6 Not that he cared for the poor—he was a thief, and since he was in charge of the disciples’ money, he often stole some for himself.

To change a man, you have to first change the way he thinks. The word changes anyone and anything, that's why we send the word. All the monies government has been sinking in the lives of humanity, how come there hasn't been a utopia? All the monies bill Gates has sent to Africa, what impact has it done to humanity? We csn give them 81million dollar and still come in 5 years time and meet them in the same poverty.

We are smarter.,, we take the word to them, not cash.

how many do you think was really read?

None.

Go to some CE churches now, you will find TONS of cartons of rhapsody(October edition-reach Nigeria copies), not distributed

Ok

You are here quoting figures

Noted

Don't blame me in future if I ignore posts you direct to me, especially the ones suffering from heavy deficiency of common sense.

SirJohn:
Oh croyez-moi que je vais... Surveillez cet espace !

Je regarde cet espace. Vous serez là pour émerveiller.

Bidam:
Bro..that's guys fixation is not only tithes o but eve sleeping with the serpent ask babagnoni his friend if na lie i lie.

No mind trustman who sold his honesty for a morsel of amala.

SirJohn:

Folie des grandeurs

Appelez ça comme vous voulez .... Je marche par son Esprit. Me citer dans l'avenir

trustman:
Gombs,
I hope you are not losing it.

Notice I did not say the Mosaic law did not have in it practices that may have been before it. When the Mosaic law came it became the yardstick for the spiritual life of those under it. To that extent it superseded what was before it. Those under it did not need to RESORT to going back to pre-law institutions to live their spiritual lives.

So the NT believer today needs to understand what the New Covenant is all about so as to know what is required of him or not.

So, coming back to tithing and the New Covenant believer; if he claims he is tithing according to its mention in the OT, the question then is what is the OT prescription for tithing and is the NT believer following it as stipulated there? If so how? If not exactly so, why?

Bobo, no time for petty leagues and dragging with you fellas... I am gonna raise an online army, by his Spirit...there's alot of ground to conquer online... I've got NL covered, you may want to know I raised LambanoPeace and vivydoxa.... it's time to lock down the media with the message of the spirit, this gospel must be taken round more voraciously.

I have a purpose here, a vision, I was not sent here to drag tithing and such with you all... it's time to mobilize all those my folks on NL. We've gotta take facebook, wordpress and for Christ.

Priceless words!

You must learn to give expression to your joy. Always be cheerful and exuberant with praise, knowing that it takes a joyful and happy person to make others joyful and happy. If you're not joyful, you can’t effectively preach the Gospel and win others to Christ.

This gospel must go round o!

Joy Has Expressions!- Friday, November 21st .

Pastor Chris

For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city (Acts 8:7-.

Our opening text is an account of events in Samaria when Philip, the evangelist, preached Christ in the city. The power of God’s Word prevailed mightily, such that many were healed and set free from demons. The result was that the city erupted in joy. The Bible specifically records that there was great joy in that city.

How do you know that someone is joyful? Through their expressions! Joy has expressions. Laughter is an expression of joy. Praising God—being exultant and exuberant with praise to Him—is an expression of joy. Singing songs of praise in thanksgiving is an expression of joy. The Bible says, “Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms” (James 5:13).Express your joy in the Lord.

Joy is one of the fruits of the recreated human spirit (Galatians 5:22); therefore, your joy as a child of God should be independent of circumstances. It shouldn’t be based on what's happening to you or around you; it shouldn't have anything to do with what others say or do to you. You can be joyful in the midst of trouble.

Paul and Silas were cast into prison, persecuted for preaching the Gospel. Nevertheless, “At midnight,” (it doesn't get darker than it gets at midnight), they prayed and sang praises to God, and the other prisoners heard them (Acts 16:25).

They expressed their joy, and the result was a supernatural jail break. God shook up the prison, broke their bands and flung the gates open. They remained joyful in adversity, and gave expression to their joy.

You must learn to give expression to your joy. Always be cheerful and exuberant with praise, knowing that it takes a joyful and happy person to make others joyful and happy. If you're not joyful, you can’t effectively preach the Gospel and win others to Christ.


Prayer...
I thank you Father for making my life a bundle of joy and happiness. Your joy in my heart is my strength, and with joy, I draw out prosperity, peace,success, health and other blessings from deep within me today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:

Job 5:22
At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid of the beasts of the earth. ; 

2 Chronicles 20:22
And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. ; 

Isaiah 12:2
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: James 4:13-5:1-20, Ezekiel 24-26
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 John, Daniel 7-8

Candour:
congrats. but all these by propagating the following lies?

Oyakhilome






and getting some teaching help from the below?



Adeboye




Pat Robertson



sure you're making impact.

church of christ isn't my church. I only attend bible studies there. infact the church i attend is smaller so you might want to deepen your disdain

[size=90pt]Yes[/size]
[size=3pt]
Now tell you church preaching the truth to wait till judgement day for God to say, we should all go to hell as WinsomeX said we would...

I did not imply COC was your church, your church is smaller because narrow is the way, and only a few find it... it's noted[/size]

Candour:
What happens to telling folks what the church needs and letting them contribute generously to it? How do you do your offer 7? What is wrong in coming together as a church and deciding together to contribute a percentage of our income to run legitimate programmes of the church? Is that not how the new testament church lived?

I attend bible study sometimes in church of Christ (not COCIN o) and they've been operating on that principle for over 200years and are spread all over the world.

Is there any need so great to justify criminally twisting scriptures and threatening children of God with it to coax money out of them? Do we doubt God can do his thing without us deceitfully trying to 'help' him?

Heheheheheh, bobo... I see how far your church has gone, and the impact they make. Yeah, nareow is the way, and only a few find it... noted buddy.

Sir, God knows why tithing is instituted today, and it is so that He'd have meat in His house... if He was against it, are you saying he turned a blind eye to it all these years? He must be waiting for the last day to arrest those Pastors who allowed it in their churches. #Classic

How can you explain how a Nation like the BLW is richer than alot of countries, and they don’t ask any church or foundation for funds, and they go around the world whenever they like, however they like, spreading the gospel of Christ? Monies bro...Prayer is the bedrock...the vehicle is the monies...lots of it. For example, now, there are 1,162 CE churches in India. Aside prayers, we sent tons of Bibles there, tons of ROR, tons of tracts all in different formats. There are 2 Ce Churches in Japan, there is the underground Ce Church in China, and I think 16 in South Korea.

How on earth did you think these happened? Yeah baby! Tithing, Partnership...God opened those windows of heaven, and He sure poured out those blessings.

They just sang the BLW anthem, and boy, I scremed my lungs out with "Believers Love World, building a happier world with love"

Bobo, if you no wan tithe, leave those who want to, whether you like it or not, tithing will NEVER stop. You cannot block the sun with a finger. I'm out.

Partners' conference just entered a higher tempo. Pastor Chris don show stage...bye!

Bonus: Rhapsody of Realities is in 550 languages now, the only book with the most translation in the world second only to the Bible, the world's most read book, second only to the bible, and 105million copies were distributed this year

Abeg, clap for the Holy Spirit, it was not by power or might... yes, I glory in it... in WinsomeX's words "vain glory"

shdemidemi:
Compromise the Word since there are bills to be met, right?

What would you have done if you were part of the early church who were subjected to persecution and trials like serious body harm, mutilation and death as though they were malefactors; if for common bills you will bend God's word?

Go siddon jare!

You folks know how everything should be done and ran, because you lot understand the bible better, yet no impact, no results, no leadership traits. The gospel would not move, if nkt for monies.... Jesus knew that, that's why he wants us loaded, very very loaded.

[KJV] 2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Candour:
We'll need Jo to confirm whether it was a case of belief gone wrong or an outright lie from the start

That they're clear words from the bible doesn't make them a rule for Christians. There are many clear words in the bible that Christians do not go near. If you pick tithing for yourself, good for you. Same with the person that decides to practice feast of tabernacles. They however aren't rules for Christians otherwise the apostles would have told us.




You mentioned that God has a prescribed way of doing things and I showed you one example. He didnt just say tithe. He said lay it up for the Levite, strangers, orphans and widows. To you it doesnt matter. I can assure you it matters to God. Do you think a Jew who refuses to carry it out the way God said it there would still be blessed? What if I decide to take the tithe to needy brethren instead of the church? After all Christ even said the least of the brethren represented him? Would the blessing in Malachi still follow?

I trust you know the temple of Malachi is now you and I? I am God's temple and you're God's temple. So why can't I as God's building and temple chop the tithe? After all Deut 14:22-26 commands Israel to?

What about the work of ministry? What about church staff salaries? What about church projects? What about.. who foots the bill? How should the church take the gospel form say Lagos to Sri Lanka?

Remember the words of Hagin in this book?

vooks:
The point is for ANYTHING you find in Genesis expounded in the Law,you follow the Law. For instance;

1. SACRIFICES
In Genesis, individuals offer sacrifices but in the Laws it is the priests that offer them

2. TITHING
You can't possibly purport to tithe according to Abraham or Jacob at the expense of the elaborate regime you find in the Laws.

3. CIRCUMCISION
Same case with circumcision. [size=20pt]Remember, Genesis is part of the Law.[/size] There is nothing like Abrahamic vs Moses circumcision. When the Jerusalem council met in Acts 15, it was the Abraham circumcision codified in the Laws they had in mind

That's why am horrified by the tithing brigade when they claim that they are not tithing 'after the Law' but 'by Faith' after Abraham

Capital punishment is death sentence. What's your problem sir?

There are principles in the OT that we can use today but we can't add to what was already in use by the apostles. Tithing supported priests and the question is what is the principle behind tithing? Is it tithing or something else?

Dear Lord Jesus!

vooks:
They had silver back during Moses. Give the cheque and then have him slaughter the goat and burn it up. Freewill offerings were not gifts to priests, they were consumed completely. You may light up the wand of cash

Correction: Freewill offerings were to be eaten not later than the next day- refer Lev 7:16

Does he stock Midas in his bookshops? Or has ever heard about it? Book is over 12 years

Is like asking T.D Jakes whether he stocks his bookshops with Pastor Chris' materials.

vooks:
Capital punishment is a legal/governance issue not individual Christian's job. Or do you lynch witches and adulterers ?

Oga, he said everything before Moses law were superceded by the law (how crappy the thought is), now capital punishment, is before the law, hence not swept away with the law by the new covenant. Tell trustman to explain how he concluded that the law superceded everything before it.

As for the colored, nget a dictionary and educate yourself on what capital punishment is, and see whether it matches the crime stated above in contrast to what we have in Genesis.

Paul appealed to two examples from Torah; the ox feeding while threshing and Levites/priests eating while serving. The PRINCIPLE in BOTH is not tithing but reward for services rendered. He was no more advocating ploughing using animals than he was tithing. Note the Levites/priests received much more than tithes, they received ALL the offerings

Ehen, shey Paul used the OT to teach and indoctrinate the churches, abi?
Oga, ask Trustman to explain how he then concluded the NT supercedes ANYTHING before it.

What was superseded was the Law. You are no longer under it marvelous as it is. What do you think was nailed to the cross in Col 2:14?

Why do you use the O.T. principle to train your children (Pr 13:24; 19:18; 22:15; 23:13-14; 29:15). The NT does not mention saving money, but you do so from Solomon (Pr 6:8; 30:25). It does not mention many godly rules or principles, which were conspicuously lifted from the O.T, yet you are here saying the NT supersedes anything before it. Please study na!

There are principles in the OT very very relevant today, like it or not[/quote]

vooks:
Midas is one book Oyaks would never stock in his bookshop nor reference it for a second. You have Firstfruits service and he says that's unscriptural.

A question I posed to mbaemeka. Is there any verse in the good book where Freewill offerings (Lev 22:23) are condemned? What then stops you from presenting your priest Oyaks with a live animal for burning? Imagine Sinach track I-Know-Who-I-Am playing as the smoke of burning flesh rises up to heaven

If Pastor Chris hhas a problem with Hagin, he'd not mention him in his messages. What If I give my free will offering is cash, imagine me dancing to the altar with a cheque and sinach's song playing, as the savour of my offering (offer 7) rises up to heaven?

Image123:
So my giving is nobody's business, yet y'all have your knickers in a suicidal twist over our tithe giving. That's weird.

Very weird

vooks:
Jesus taught that your giving should be in secret. Not even your right hand should know what your left is giving. The reason is because your giving is NOBODY's business. Your toxic garbage is what we are exorcising using brains and Wisdom from scriptures

Yet, Paul told the whole world what a particular church did about givings.

Yet Jesus knew what that widow gave, of course, because he was God.

You giving is not entirely you business only, ask Paul for further schooling.

trustman:
Really? I wonder how.

If the Christian was required or mandated to tithe the NT epistles would have strongly talked about it. Does that make it clearer for you?

Any attempt at using any portion of the OT to justify Christian tithing today is just an effort at futility.

Funny.

[size=16pt]When the Mosaic law came it superseded anything before it. [/size] For those under the law to know if whatever they did pre-law was still required of them they had to look at the provisions of the law. They could not justify themselves by any other 'PERMUTATIONS'.

Huh?
Capital punishment, like tithing, originated long before the Law, but the Law systematized its practice (Gen 9:6). Why wasn't it superseded. Or, are you saying capital punishment is not for Christians too? Why do you and WinsomeX make stamping statements without proper studying?

[size=20pt]In the same way The New Covenant supersedes anything before it.[/size] So the NT believer today needs to understand what the New Covenant is all about so as to know what is required of him or not. Any attempt at using any 'permutation' to justify what the New Covenant does not stand for does not justify any derived results.

Paul did appeal to the Law of Moses for principles of financial giving, which shows the remaining validity of the principles pertaining to giving (I Cor 9:8-9; II Cor 9:9; I Tim 5:18). Or are you saying Paul was mistaken to borrow Moses' law?

You guys keep saying "But the New Testament does not require a tithe" "grace did this and that, the whole of the law was abolished" etc... yet, the New Testament does not mention corporal punishment, yet, you ok it today, yet you use the O.T. principle to train your children (Pr 13:24; 19:18; 22:15; 23:13-14; 29:15). The NT does not mention saving money, but you do so from Solomon (Pr 6:8; 30:25). It does not mention many godly rules or principles, which were conspicuously lifted from the O.T, yet you are here saying the NT supersedes anything before it. Please study na!

So because Paul used a portion of the OT to drive home a point does not give you the liberty to do so unless you know Paul's basis for doing so? You need to know how Paul applied the OT before you can do same in a sane way. 

See who said the NT supersedes the OT, yet a prominent NT fellow used a good chunk of it in teaching and doctrines, or are you more smarter or your Holy Spirit is the genuine type?

Oh dear Lord Jesus!

WinsomeX:
vooks, you may wish to ask those bantering with you on tithes to define what the tithe consist of in scriptures and what they now call tithes.

Lev. 27:30-33 may help.

All this tithe... God said you should tithe... Malachi curse here, Malachi curse there... will fall on its face when you understand what the tithe was God was asking for in Malachi 3.

And then you/they will discover that those robbing God today are not those not tithing but those collecting an "illegal" unscriptural tithe. They are thieves and robbers and have turned God's house to a den of thieves, according to Jesus.

This is the reason non of them dare own up they are Pastors, except for the "indebted" Joagbaje. They know the minute their true identity is discovered, they loose credibility and the motive behind these stringent defense of an illegal monetary tithing scheme will be discovered.

@Candour, I will request you let Image123 have the last say. That's about all he seems to achieve here.

If I were a pastor, I'd be more than glad to let you all know. I am not subtle as you, nor a doctorate degree holder in dishonesty as trustman, he of course beat you to that feat, with a small margin.

You know Midas touch would shatter your NL-life long crusade, no wonder you went for the jugular and called Hagin a failure. Tithing is one of the cardinal point of funding the work of the ministry, Until you and your brigade find a verse in the good book where tithing is condemned, I see no basis to continue debating it.

vooks:
The significance of tithing is not in the 10% but in the enslavement of believers through half-hearted attempts at keeping Torah, the blatant mutilation of scriptures, the dishonesty and the subsequent Pharisaical pride; 'I am not like other men, I give tithes of my all....'

Errrr, are you sure you're not confused? Tithe was existing way before the Torah. Thanks

Image123:
Antitithers think tithe is very significant.

Bizarre, aint it?

The Miracle Of His Love - Thursday, November 20th .

Pastor Chris

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us (Romans 5:5).

Each time I think and meditate on God’s Word and contemplate the greatness of the Lord, I’m awed to realize that He actually put it in the heart of man, His own creature, to love Him. It’s an amazing miracle. I don’t know if you've ever thought about the fact that He made you.

You know, it’s easy for us to relate with Him without immediately realizing that the One we’re dealing with actually made us: everything we are, and knows everything about us. His greatness is beyond description.

It’s therefore too humbling, and boggles the mind to think that He’d put in our hearts to follow after Him and love Him. To think that He made it possible for us to know Him, and want to know more about Him, as part of His work in us, is such an amazing reality.

When you think of those who don’t know Him, think how fortunate you are that you know Him, not because you found out about Him, but because He put it in your heart to know Him. Best of all is, He’s now made you His partner in winning the lost.

He could get them to know Him without involving you, because He’s God; He’s all-powerful and can do all things. However, He chose to make us apart of His business of bringing others to salvation; what a miracle! What an honour!

Prayer...
Dear Father, how happy I am to know that you not only love me with an everlasting love, but also put it in my heart to love you, my Lord and maker. My heart is bowed in worship, for your greatness, and for the honour and privilege to know, love, and serve you. I’ll celebrate and sing of your greatness and love all of my days, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Psalm 8:4-6
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: ; 

Ephesians 1:5 AMP
For He foreordained us (destined us, planned in love for us) to be adopted (revealed) as His own children through Jesus Christ, in accordance with the purpose of His will [ because it pleased Him and was His kind intent] ;

1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: James 3:14-4:1-12, Ezekiel 22-23
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 John 5:1-21, Daniel 5-6

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Cast Out Devils!-Wednesday, November 19th .

Pastor Chris

And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him (Mark 1:25-26).

Mark 16:17 says, “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils….” Every Christian has the ability to cast out devils! It’s not a question of how “strong” or “spiritual” you are; what’s important is that Jesus has given you His authority; you walk in His Name.

Satan has no right to run things in your life, or in your home or in the lives of your loved ones. Exercise your authority in Christ against him.You can cast out devils any day, anytime and anywhere, simply by using the Name of Jesus. Don’t negotiate with him; cast him out!

You might want to ask, “How do I know the devil is out when I cast him out?” That’s simple. Jesus said when you ask the devils to go, they’d go. His Word settles it. Your role is to cast the devil out, and the devil’s responsibility is to oblige.

However, there’re occasions when the devils literally manifest and cry out loud as they leave the one from whom they're being cast out. An example is what we read in our opening verses. We also see an instance of this in Acts 8:6-7 as Philip preached Christ to the people: “…unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them….”

Thus, in casting out devils, the evil spirits could shriek and shout in torment as they go; and then the literal change in the expressions of those from whom the spirits came out would immediately reveal that there’s been a difference.

Besides, it makes no difference whether the devils shriek or shout when you cast them out; what’s important is what Jesus said, “…In my name shall they cast out devils…” (Mark 16:17). That's absolute reality, and should form the basis for your faith. Therefore, when you cast out devils, they have only one option—to flee.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the authority you’ve vested in me to cast out devils in the Name of Jesus. The devil and his cohorts have no place in my home, body, job and finances. I exercise my authority in Christ to keep them where they belong—under my feet—in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Luke 10:18-19
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Acts 16:16-18
16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: James 2-3:1-13, Ezekiel 20-21
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 John 4:14-21, Daniel 3-4

Candour:
My friend has gone through his past posts and seen that he can't deny he has himself used or seen Malachi 3 used against non tithers on NL some few times he has also discovered that oyaks his idol also knows how to put prophet Malachi to dangerous use. Its baffling that he was able to type longer posts at IPPC but had to wait till he gets to his hotel to type a 6 word post. He has discovered he can't hide anymore so the next thing is to become brazen about it

No my friend, i don't rob God.

Bobo, I was tired last night. Since you don't rob God...fine. me I will tithe, till Jesus come