₦airaland Forum

BabaGnoni:
Would you put a defective and loaded gun into the hands of a minor?
This is what WoF indoctrination(s) does and it leads many impressionable, unsuspecting, gullible, easily influenced, vulnerable old & young, into debts, bankruptcy, worse off financial mess, less prosperous, unfulfilled expectations etcetera
Only a wicked lying through their teeth person will not acknowledge this

See who's talking! The snake charmer himself

BabaGnoni:
Gombs, you better learn some decorum and buy some toothpaste whilst at it.
I hate to say this Gombs, young bucks wont understand, that's all I'll say

Nah, no way. The amazing anointing reeking holy jacket is ice, it is cooler.
- What came on Benny Hinn there? What is going on in there?

I can't make sense of what you typed. Mind using plainer english? Be presentable. Be original

trustman:
Denial

That's your pseudo name.

When Gombs and company refusal to admit to a clear truth, they live in denial.
Because they seem unable to cope with the possibility that their long-held positions
on several issues are wrong they seek for an escape route in denial.
They can face the prospects of changing perhaps several years of wrong teaching.
As a result they put all they can muster into trying to 'prove' that their perceived
opponents' positions are wrong no matter how ridiculous their arguments are.

Like you admitted clear truths that Abraham was not Isrealite.? Like you accepted clear truth that your noble board member said eve had sex with a...emmm... ?

You, my friend, are a wonderful blueprint for denial.

They also display excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to their leader.

You want me to commit to you? You must be joking. I am convinced beyond words that Pastor Chris is a man sent from God. Like it or not.

Even if a clear portion of scripture is shown them on an issue, as long it conflicts wit
their leader's position they will refuse it.This expression is cultic.

You can't even teach yourself, with numerous blunders, yet you want to teach me or even more Pastor Chris.

That is why it is almost impossible for them to disagree with anything their leader says
or any stance he takes on an issue.

Provide me a more truer gospel, and I'd listen to you. Till then

BabaGnoni:
https://gifyu.com/images/BennyJacket.gif
Gombs! Keep quiet there, else be ready to be on the receiving end of this anointing reeking holy jacket LOL

Bring on your best shot... remember to bring along your lap dog... you know now, the one who sold his honour for a morsel of eba. By the way, aint gifs cool?

Processor01:
I am so disappointed with Pastor Kun and Voks! - What exactly is wrong with you guys?! Didn't your bible teach you that there's a time for everything? Do you guys think we are on nairaland to pick fights and make enemies of each other? Where is your love or are you just about bible knowledge with no fruits? Common guys, how dare you walk into a man's party only to insult him before his guests - you could have clicked on the next topic or simply shutdown your phone or PC! Haba guys! You could have gone into your closet to pray for him to be changed, or what exactly is your goal?

FYI, I am an anti-tither too!

Thank you. These are the true gospel prechers we have on NL

mbaemeka:
Just imagine if that link said "Millions healed" by CE Pastor. You would have seen Sherlock Holmes, Matlock and Nancy Drew in full gear proving how bogus such a claim was. Now that it sounded scandalous it became the absolute truth with no need to investigate it.

Hahahaha.

You'd see BBG and others with YouTube videos, Kunle will remeber Invectives, Shedemidemi would bring scriptures, vooks will remember James Randi, WinsomeX will remember Sir John, Goshen will remember mathematics etc

But so far it's bad news, it most surely is absolute truth, they swallow it hook, line and sinker. Never will they celebrate good news. Remember when Pastor Chris gave out that state of the art lecture theatre in Edo state? These blokes never asked my opinion, nor created threads about it.

mbaemeka:
The emboldened is on a wheelchair man- lame. That's just conjecture that we don't take serious or bother responding to as it is nothing like us. A proper exchange would have been:

Vooks: WOF teaches a false gospel and the Pastors are all fake.
Mbaemeka: but Millions have listened to the gospel from the so-called WOF men and they seem to be doing well off. Sicknesses are healed, poor are becoming rich, ignorance seems a thing of the past.
Vooks: numbers is sideshow. False signs and false prophets shall arise.
Mbaemeka:

Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha

Nice one

WinsomeX:
Gombs, if you really want a discussion on tithes I can engage you. I will only request that you remain on the subject and reduce the theatrics. My answer:

Deal

Regardless what some may make of my position on tithes here, my position really is that of liberty. Tithe if you want to and don't tithe, if you care. I only insist that no one should teach it as a Christian doctrine and no one should be manipulated to tithe. The truth is that the moment tithes is exposed for it truly is, people quite naturally stop tithing. This is what tithers call stopping people from tithing; which we on the other hand simply call exposing the truth behind the biblical tithes.

What is it that tithing really is that should make people NATURALLY stop tithing?

Sometimes I think those who are for or against tithing get it wrong because what we casually call a "tithe" is not the bible tithe. The moment the true nature of the tithe is exposed, the whole practice begin to fall apart. Leviticus 27:30-33 reveal the biblical tithes:

What of Abraham and Melchizedek? Is it Koranic tithing?

Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD.... 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

What of pre mosaic tithing?

The bible tithe is fruit of tree, seed of the ground and tenth of the herd . What you call tithes today, a tenth of your salary all your increase, is not the tithes of the bible.

Meanwhile, you've shifted goal post from your usual definition of tithes when you were Drummaboy.

If you however insist that tithes is 10% and 10% of anything is tithes, I will again have to point to you that that practice of tithing is obsolete according to the NT. If you must tithe, as some claim they imitate tithing before the law, then you must answer the reason behind some other pre-law practices that are no longer observed in church: Genesis 2, said God rested from his works, initiating the practice of the sabbath.

Halt old sport! That bold above is very very very very very true. But what is the seventh day? Using which calendar? Meanwhile, Jesus said "The Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people, and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath.
He also said he's the Lord of Sabbath, does that mean anything to you?

When Jesus came, he showed clearly that he was the Lord of the sabbath and his disciples flouted sabbath rules with reckless abandon. Paul also warns against such defunct observance, Col 2:16:

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Then there is circumcision. Clearly said to be an eternal covenant with God's people in Gen 17. Galatians 5:1-4 shows us that anyone finding acceptance with God through circumcision had fallen from grace.

We've said it here, physical circumcision only means you identify with the promises, but it does not make you righteous.

We have burnt offering and various rituals that preceded the law. All of this have no place in the NT. How come did Abram once and for all tithing of war spoil become a standard for Christians?

Mba has answered this, please flip few pages back for futher tuition.

The answer is simple: the tithing according to Abraham is a theological copout to legitimize fraud in the church. If it must be practised, Christians should tithe once and tithe only of war spoils.

War spoils? Ok according to you logic above? what if there's no wars? And they must tithe, What then? Create wars?

Tithing according to the law does not hold water and thankfully many tithers try not to go to the law to justify their tithing. Rom 10:4; Heb 8:13.

Malachi 3 was written to a particular time ahead of theirs, it was a prophecy, how many times do I have to write that?

Now, I find it interesting that tithers are the ones playing the victim now, saying people are forcing them not to tithe. The truth is that it is people who do not tithe that are being insisted upon to tithe in real life. Many have been chased away from their local churches because of their position on tithe; many have been demonized and vilified for their bold position against this illegality; outside this faceless forum, very few people can speak up against tithes without being seen as accursed individuals; etc.

Hahahahahah, you don't want folks to tithe, because it's a fraud, yet you can't pull a single thread that condemned it. Yes you should tithe, Midas touch, this book, gives you thousands of reasons to...and majorly, it's to sponsor the work of ministry. To have meat in the house of the Lord?
You were nit chased from your church because of your presentation, you went to the sheep through the window, with your thoughts, the Bible call that robbery.

The reality is that non tithers are vilified not because they insist that people shouldn't tithe; rather they are demonized because they insist that church people should have liberty to use their resources for whatever they wish, including not paying a tithe on it. However a clergy system that has benefitted from the tithes will have non of it.

Ok, I want the liberty to tithe, and I have the right to teach others... from experiences.

Gombs, I am not insisting on anyone not to tithe; I am only insisting on the true biblical tithe be preached and that men be given the liberty scripture has given us to use our resources for whatever we wish to use it for, 2 Cor 9:7:

Yes...I don't force anyone to tithe, I teach them, show them benefits and experiences, believe me, they thank me later.

2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Gbam

Image123:
Is this positive confession? WoF admirer alert.

Name it and claim it shey?

Cc:
WinsomeX and the board members

trustman:
Gombs & Co,
Does The Midas Touch have anything to say on the issue below:

I don't. Why not get back to the Facebook page and ask them? You believe anything you read online so far it puts CE in bad light, you now shamelessly mention me for an opinion? Ask WinsomeX, he seems to have opinions you'd love to hear.

OLAADEGBU:
So you think that you are a god, since God is a Spirit, no?

Psalm 82:6

when God wanted to create man in His image,what did you think He created?

trustman:
I'm saying that I'm eager to have your thoughts on those questions.

How am i supposed to have a thought about it when you haven't been to any?

vooks:
Like what, daring SirJohn kind of battles?

Like refuting claims from true gospel preachers since 2009

trustman:
I would sincerely like to know your answers to those questions.

But you haven't asked BBG na!

trustman:
For starters, BabaGnoni's questions:

"Why are "healing" schools FULL of genuinely and undisputedly crippled wheelchair-ridden people who NEVER GET HEALED?
Why is cerebral palsy sufferer(s) turned away from approaching "healing" pastor(s) on stage at "healing" school(s)?"

Ask him whether he's writing from experience or just being cynical.

sonOfLucifer:
Fucking asslicker. Leave some tongue for the birthday cake and sweets.

I long for the day I'd cast out the devils in you.

PastorKun:
Happy birthday Joagbaje, remember to pay sirjohn's 500k oh. The tiny little integrity you have left is at stake oh!

Kunle o, it's his birthday. Make it special for him na! must you derail?

vooks:
You want to look up Reductio ad absurdum

Arrêtez d'être stupide et répondre à ma question. Merci

vooks:
I like the mutating defense. So now it is down to 'force'

Why should a Christian be forced to stop offering Freewill animal sacrifices,circumcising or keeping Sabbath?

I rephrase, why should a Christian be encouraged to stop tithing? You've brought up the circumcision, , well younsaid it's been anulled, no wahala then.

Happy birthday to Joagbaje, God bless you sir.

10 million gbossa

WinsomeX:
Based on these "charges", I plead GUILTY and
I have no apologies for them.

If, according to you, the above is WX attacking the liberty of people to tithe, then I agree with you and Bidam that I do attack people's liberty to tithe and still have no apologies for it.

Oh! We demand none. You could not admit being wrong in biblical exercises, we don't expect apologies for attacking our liberty to tithe. Like I asked Trustman, a question he may still be ruminating on, why should a Christian be forced ro stop tithing? Can you answer in plain terms?

trustman:
Do you prefer this to giving straightforward answers to the questions?

What questions?

The Condition Is To Be In Christ - Tuesday, November 25th .

Pastor Chris

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new (2 Corinthians 5:17).

The above scripture is God’s announcement and unveiling of the new man through the Apostle Paul. Let's analyse the verse carefully. First, it says “if any man be in Christ…,” which means “anybody,” irrespective of who he is, once in Christ, is a new creation. The environment of the new man is Christ. Notice it doesn’t say, “He will be a new creation,” or “He shall be a new creation”; rather, it says, “…he is a new creation….” This isn’t a promise; it's a statement of fact.

The word “is” is a “now” verb, showing a present-hour occurrence or reality. If you’re in Christ, you're a new creation NOW. You’re not a reworked, renewed, or refurbished creation; you were born anew, without a past! You’ve been baptized into the body of Christ, by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13). It makes no difference whether or not you feel so. This is God’s picture of you; this is His declaration about you: you’re a new creation in Christ.

Your human spirit, through faith in Christ Jesus, has been recreated, and you're now the righteousness of God in Him.

As a result, you can now stand boldly in God’s presence without guilt, inferiority or condemnation, because you have the same life and nature with Him; you’re born of His Spirit (John 3:6). 1 John 4:17 says, “…as he is, so are we in this world”; you’re not going to be like Him, you're already like Him, and you’re in Him, and He’s in you. Together, you’re one divine creation. Blessed be God!

Confession. ..
I’m a new creation; old things are passed away, and all things are new in me! I’m an heir of God, and joint-heir with Christ. I’ve been freely and gratuitously justified to have right standing with God, by His grace, which was bestowed on me in Christ Jesus. Glory to God forever more!

Further Study:
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. ; 

Galatians 3:27-29
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.;

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 Peter 4, Ezekiel 33-34
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 1:1-20, Hosea 3-4

BabaGnoni:
Excellente! Nah. Emotionalism!! Yeah

Mark of the true gospel preachers.

PastorKun:
Hypnotic powers taught and practised by eastern cult religions.

WinsomeX:
Christ Embassy again in the news for all the "good" reasons. See Chris Oyakhilome boys give a lady some "Midas Touch" in the just concluded IPPC program. Talk about bearing the fruit of the Spirit.

www.nairaland.com/2012017/another-trouble-brews-christ-embassy

He's a failed Blogger like you, just seeking traffic. But he beat you to the gossip o did you read the last line of what you quoted from the Blogger? Amazing right?

You must be smiling Pastor Chris is on the news again!

kennygee:
How?

keypad1:
gggg

abila122:
ok

9jahubcom:
oh

Bennyberry:
K

englishmart:
Yup

ALKARULEZ615:
JET LI

Nairaland...seun see them o...greedy shidrens

We shall overcome these in the Name of Jesus.

God bless Nigeria
God bless Mr President
Amen

Oyinprince:
Prayer at 12noon and 10pm (Local/GMT) - Mon Nov 24

"Behold, bless ye the Lord, all ye servants of the Lord, which by night stand in the house of the Lord. Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the Lord. The Lord that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion" (Psalm 134.1-3).

For 15min at 12noon and 10pm (Local/GMT); we'll pray mostly in tongues and in accordance with this scripture; blessining, glorifying and thanking the Lord for all that we received this past week, most especially at the just concluded ippc: His Word, the anointing of the Spirit, more grace and ability for the work of the Ministry, for the healings and miracles, and for the revelations, visions and prophecies. Glorify and Worship Him from your spirit, lifting up your hands to Him, for He deserves all the praise, glory and honour forevermore. Amen.

Visit the Loveworld News app at  http://loveworldnews.com, and relieve the moments of the IPPC. God bless you.

EXTRACT FROM: www.yookos.com/pastorchrislive

God bless you sir. Let me have an email address I can contact you with? I've got a vision God laid in my heart, and you have a vital role to play. Thank you.

Bidam:
The attacks on CEC is unwarranted and uncalled for, are they preaching Christ? Yes or No? Do well to attend to my questions posed earlier or shift elsewhere.

Ah! CE don't preach Christ, they are just brood or vipers, wolves in sheep clothing, and they shall all go to hell.

Bro, good morning jare.

Ranchhoddas:
so those pictures are fake abi?

I could find any pic and put up, to back any story I have. Notice the 'badly battered' lady in the said picture.

Two, no armed security guard in LCA except MOPOL who were either at the gates or outside.

Three, there is NO WAY Christ Embassy will enter a deal in exchange of Studio. Cash was and is and can NEVER be the problem.

Four, white substance suspected to be tranquilizers? Really?

Five, do they tear down LCDs?

Six, errors plenty jare. But you can believe what you wish sha.

Oyinprince:
These peeps just dey use her name jare, she no fit lie all dese lies.

Abeg, which Christ Embassy Pastor would even descend low to start fighting a Lady?

I tire o, when well trained guards dey, plus MOPOL. My own is where was the LCD used? As in, there was non in Lagos so CE had to go to Abuja? I thought CE used projectors? Wicked types sef?

Anyways, make OP come explain further.