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Candour:
That particular statement of Christ is "untwistable" no matter how 'good' you are at twisting so don't even go there

Cheers

So, God is against a multitude, say if a pastor has 30 million brethren worldwide?

vooks:
Let's test those parameters properly.
The Rhapsodies thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional
has 60,596 view and has been on since 5th February 2010 or 1661 days. The average reads per day is 37

The Midas Touch thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical
has 26,586 views since 19th October 2014 or 30 days ago. The average reads per day is 886

The Deception of Malachi thread
https://www.nairaland.com/1472237/deception-malachi-3-10-11-devourer
has 12,839 views since 10th October 2013 or 404 days ago. The average read is 31

And finally Bidam's New Testament Prophets...
https://www.nairaland.com/1977834/new-testament-prophets-defined
has 1,175 views since 2nd November or 16 days ago. The average reads per day is 73

SO clearly ROR is among the least impactful and besides, you post soft copies of Rhapsodies which I presume (correct me if am wrong) are not freely available. I wonder what would happen if you shared the entire book at once in its soft. Oyaks already has a sizeable following so you can't possibly claim impact on this basis. Real impact would be non CE members who read your thread ignoring the religious folks who click there for freebies

There is no divorce brouhaha, nobody wished it on him and if they did I wonder why they succeeded. But somebody here wished me death by a car crash and my family narrowly escaped death through the same last weekend. SO may be these things work

Emails are subjective, it is your word against anybody's not to mention the brand you carry; CE and probably how active you are on NL and for how long

The point is none of those parameters are proper measure of impact and you would do well not to dwell on the trivial. The other day, your side was up in arms over 'likes'

Vooks, I think you are smarter than this. ROR thread is not a discussion thread, it is a devotional thread. All the ones you mentioned are discussions, some made front page.

RoR has been on for long, the oldest (maybe I'm wrong) standing thread with daily updates. Buddy, I know those who get updates there for their whatsapp and facebook posts... in average, no less than 1, 500 is reached daily. Now, my joy is the word going out, lives changing, unlike some with the tear down, pull down syndrome. They type away, criticizing and castigating, but never making an impact themselves.

Candour:
And at the end of the day, how many of the large crowd believed the message? How many remained with Jesus at his trial? How many were with him after the resurrection? How many were waiting for the spirit in the upper room? If crowd following is anything, Jesus would be termed a failure by your standards. In fact a terrible failure because some of the crowd who sang hosanna in the highest to herald him into Jerusalem were screaming "crucify him, crucify him" just a week later. Do we take it you'll betray oyaks soon like the crowd did to Jesus?

Anyway, what mattered to Christ was doing his fathers work. What mattered to Paul was finishing his course and keeping the faith, not how many people he had getting thrills from hearing him. I keep telling you its not about the crowd. It shouldn't be about the crowd. Christ said [size=20pt]"narrow is the way and few will find it"[/size]

Say yours, I say mine. The important thing is readers seeing all the angles and arriving at the truth through the help of the spirit of God.

Yeah, right! That's WinsomX's motto.

Explaining that would be another day's task buddy! Cheers

trustman:
Impact is making "alotta folks mad bro!"

Whao!! That's IMPACT? Getting 'excited' by others' hurt?
By their expressions we shall know them!

You really nhave a warped reasoning ability. You see how you subtly manipulated my post? You should bow your head in shame

shdemidemi:
And what is your obsession about people, followings and numbers?

What should matter is if what was said is the truth and not how popular it is. After all the world tend to be more receptive to lies.

A large crowd followed Jesus, guess which set of folks hated that? Yeah buddy, the Pharisees.

vooks:
How do you measure impact?
Has this thread had ANY impact? What about the Rhapsodies Ctrl+C&V one?

Good questions

I measure impact from the number of emails I get, plus, the nu ber of views per day. I resurrected the ROR thread and had 6 views per day, today, I get an average of 150views per day plus countless testimonies and prayers. You can view the thread for more details.

That thread has suffered alot of attack, especially in the heat of the divorce brouhaha, now, a deranged NL, has taken my cool gifs there, thinking I'd get angry. He like others will fsde with time, and the ror thread will keep moving. My gifs made alotta folks mad bro!

Now, that's Impact. The thread has suffered persecution, but stood. Why, God no dey sleep. Same with this thread. Now compare this thread with that of WoF created by a select few.

Gotta run bro, IPPC next session is 7:55am- I am not a pastor o, but Meeeehn, seeing Rev Tom and Evangelist Owase in close proximity is very thrilling. Catch you boys later.

PS: I know who's invading the ror thread, he infact is helping the thread stay up...meaning, more views, more readership, more impact. I am not moved, he'd fade with time. Makes me remember what Paul wrote
[NLT] Philippians 1:17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me.
[NLT] Philippians 1:18 But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice.

WinsomeX:
Very well said BabaGnoni.

The fact that the WoF thread is getting under the skin of some is the reason it had to be made and the more reason they should read it. The builders of the thread should should understand that those whose beliefs that thread challenge will not sit back; they will fight back.

I am consoled at least that a few here like nlMediator do not deny they are WoF. That's one step to their redemption. Others like nanny who are one step in and one step out would find full liberation if they will listen to what the Spirit is saying.

As to the inviting folks to Christ Embassy comment by nanny, you may want to learn what a true church is by studying BabaGnoni submission at the last e convention.

https://www.nairaland.com/1856979/e-grace-convention-20-14/2#25506104

How come you and BBG hasn't made any impact with your ideas?

Even your local assembly that studied BBG's submission?

It’s Of The Spirit…Not The Mind!-Tuesday, November 18th .

Pastor Chris

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24).

1 Corinthians 2:14 says, “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” This is because Christianity is beyond the senses! The lack of understanding of this truth accounts for the frustrations many experience in their faith-walk. God contacts your spirit, not your mind. Faith emanates from your spirit and not your mind; it's the response of the human spirit to the Word of God. It has nothing to do with the senses.

Our senses weren’t designed to perceive God; we walk with Him from our spirit; we serve Him with our spirit, and understand spiritual realities through the Spirit. Our minds weren't fashioned for that; only our spirit can relate with God. And then, based on that relationship, we condition our minds from our spirit to go in the same direction, and control our senses to serve our purpose.

That means, the character that we express outwardly will always be dependent on the condition of our spirit—who we are inside.

That’s why we need the Spirit of God to guide us from within. He alone can get deep into the human nature to effect the changes that God wants in us—changes in terms of growth and development—from one level of glory to another. He alone can guide our minds to think toward God, think like God, and to think from God.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for guiding me by your Spirit, to think like you and see things from your perspective, and not merely from the natural standpoint. As I walk in the light of your Word, I experience supernatural growth from glory to glory, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. ; 

Ephesians 4:23-24
23And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: James 1, Ezekiel 17-19
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 John 4:1-14, Daniel 1-2

vooks:
Karma is the most senseless principle invented. You need to visit Asia and see the suffering of those actively into Karma. What did they wrong to deserve it?

And look, who would be here to fight GOmbs if I had checked out?

Shedemidemi, WinsomeX, Kunle, Etc them plenty!

vooks:
I was carrying family. Empress,in-laws and a nephew.
First car crash in my life coming in the wake of somebody that wished me death by a car crash here

The weird thing is I never prayed before,during or after the accident. My pulse never shot. It was just as if I was watching Madagascar III. In the meantime they prayed like we had a night vigil there. My calmness was unnerving. Been thinking about it for the last 48 hours or so

Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha.. karma?

Bidam:
Nope, the link you gave says rettar.dds call it aks. are you one?

I believe you asked a rhetorical question.

Aks.... equals asks - you know I've always known I've been discussing with, retar.ds, most of which have multiple personality disorder.

Bidam:
yeah so also is clicks.

shdemidemi:
Good morning Gombs.

Quote me right, if you must quote me. Thanks

Message passed already. Thanks

I see how you admitted minor mistakes.

trustman:
If you are pained by my exercise of freewill which God has graciously given me I owe you no explanation. Learn to deal with it.

So this is what it's called now? Exercise of freewill? Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha. Yet, you don't want others to 'exercise free will' , you did not want Pastors to exercise any, but you want to exercise yours because God has graciously given you, shey? Joker.

vooks:
One notable miracles amongst the many that you verified is all trustman is aksin

Trusman?

SirJohn:
Hmmm! someone is not sounding so confident anymore, 'What if?' well you may be in for a very long wait
Last time I checked, there were three hospital test result we were supposed to see, for the first one, after nearly a month of pressure, Jeff said the doctor who diagnosed him in PH has been transferred from the hospital; now you tell me Bro Gombs, does that prevent him getting his medical records? Okay lets assume he has to chase the doctor, he 'went' to Owerri after Joagbaje sent him 30K and left Owerri without even giving Jo any feedback. It was when I asked Jo about the outcome of the trip, he called Jeff and what did Jeff say? He told Jo he got the results but was robbed on his way back and that he lost the results in the process he claimed he had to be hospitalized by some policemen.
And Jo believed him, I bet even you Gombs would have raised a red flag here.

For the second hospital, even when he could have just walked in and requested for the report, he didn't. It had to take someone else' effort to get the HIV positive result out and guess what? even though he claimed in Jo's video that he tested negative there, there was no such record in that hospital.

So that leaves us with one more right? FMC

In all my conversations with him, he hardly ever mentions FMC so I had to quiz him on that. My question to him was "In the video you mentioned going to the FMC am I correct?" he answered to the affirmative "Okay so what did you go to the FMC to do?" Jeff said he went to the FMC to collect anti retro-viral drugs. When I asked if he tested at the FMC, he couldn't give me a direct answer but he later said he did, when I asked what the result was, he again couldn't give me a direct answer. I pushed and pushed and then he told me it was positive but they later called him to say they made a mistake that the result was negative. Another red flag!

So unless Joagbaje plans to catch Jeff (who is currently on the run) and run a fresh test on him (which will most likely be positive given the circumstances), It is clear there was no negative result anywhere and the wafi guy has just pulled a cheap con on the man of god.




Well this is my third attempt to verify Joagbajes bogus claims, the first I think was a young boy he claimed he healed of a hole in the heart, he said he had x-ray evidence; when I asked Jo to produce the X-ray, he later turned and said he didn't have it, this was years ago.
The second of course was the 'blind' woman, my only regret was that I never recorded the conversation I had with her like I did for Jeff. She said in very clear English that 'she was not blind' I even spoke with her brother and it was the same thing he told me. but when Jo called her back, she denied ever telling me that and told Jo I was a liar. At least, from this latest story, you can now judge who was lying. Its either these people are afraid to disappoint Joagbaje so they lie to massage his 'MOG ego' or Joagbaje himself is the one lying.

Write a book on your feat already.

Err, what happened? Your thread aint big enough anymore? If you want to discuss your giant strides, do that in your already created thread. Ive heard your side and Jo's, you dont need keep repeating your story. Thanks

shdemidemi:
This BIDAM sef! If you won't admit to minor mistakes like this, how then will you own up to wrong beliefs you thought were right all your life. I believe it's a nigerian factor though(I might be wrong), ones once someone admit to an error, we automatically think such person is inferior. Saying sorry becomes an up hill task, admitting error is a never-go-area.

Fixed!
Like you admitted your error that Jesus can be traced to Adam? See legendary hypocrisy

trustman:
All Gombs and co are doing is simply to 'create' an escape route for their ally.

Again the issue was clear and you have been able to prove that this guy Jeff wasn't healed of HIV. That was the challenge. Not if joagbaje was deceived. Not anything else. Will Joagbaje keep his own side of the bargain?

See this one, you think I'm you? I like Jo would choose honesty, than reputation, I can't say so for some who'd rather sell theirs for a morsel of eba.

^^
I hope WinsomeX, shedemidemi, trustman et al resds that.

Replenish And Subdue -Monday, November 17th .

Pastor Chris

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth (Genesis 1:28).

God made this world, and gave Adam the authority to run it. He placed all things under him, and gave him dominion, to be in charge of everything, living and non-living (Genesis 1:26). When He said to man, “Replenish the earth,” the word “replenish” brings to mind some very important thoughts. The beautiful world God created had become a chaotic mass, and He blessed man and charged him to replenish it. To replenish mean store fill, refurbish, replace, repair, or restore.

That means something had gone wrong; there was a devil out there who had ruined things, and man was given the opportunity and responsibility to fix it. That’s the beautiful life to which we’ve been called in Christ: a life of dominion, authority, blessings, and control over the world in which we live. We’re to tame this world and subdue it.

However, God didn't charge us to subdue one another, in the earth. What He wants from us concerning one another is to walk in love. 1 John 4:7-8 says, “Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and everyone that love this born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.”

As you walk in dominion and authority over the world and its elements, over the vagaries of nature, He says, “Love one another.” Don’t exert undue dominion over others because each one of us is made in the image and likeness of our heavenly Father.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for the honour and privilege of the beautiful life I've been called into: a life of dominion, authority and blessings; a life of control over the world, the forces of nature and the elements of this world. I effectively reign over the circumstances of my life, to the glory and praise of your Name, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.Further Study:

Matthew 8:26-27
26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him! ; 

Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. ; 

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 13, Ezekiel 16
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 John 3:13-24, Ezekiel 48

BabaGnoni:
Agreeing that "some ministers have done and are doing the above points listed" is half the battle is won.
- Glad to read the agreement

I have no grouse with Dr Myles Munro, especially now that he has moved on
- situation brought his mention on this thread.

No one is "grouping everyone under this WoF umbrella"
- it is the pig that gets its head stucked in the fence that squeals

Not so fast Watson. Showing, identifying and pointing out, is not criticizing but is giving advance warning and cautionary signs

We wouldnt be having this exchange if "sitting on the sidewalks..."

Just like Father Abraham told Lazarus, if they wouldnt pay attention now or take notice of the warnings now "writing the book, pastoring the church, preaching the gospel the way it ought to be preached... then come tell us to learn from you" would have no benefit

Stop showing, identifying and pointing out, start teaching, leading and demonstrating for us to copy! Write your own book or gather your own brethren with the true gospe I you have..until then, you lot are jokers

nannymcphee:
we agree that some ministers have done and are doing the above points listed, but we are talking about Dr Myles Munroe for now. you are grouping everyone under this WOF umbrella

I have to go with Gombs on this

Its not enough to criticize, you show the way!!! show how it ought to be done

dont just sit on the sidewalks and criticize!!

write the book, pastor the church, preach the gospel the way it ought to be preached... then come tell us to learn from you

Simple and concise...that's all I'm asking. Talk is cheap, he should quit typing and show us how it should be done in action. Funny anyone he does not like is WoF related.


God bless you!

Drummaboy aka WinsomeX has this legendary ability to criticize or condemn a man or ministry he knows nothing about, except what he read from some websites. He criticised Hagin so bad and when properly informed, he confessed he's never read any of Hagin's book, and that point to the fact that he's not listened to any of his messages.

Now, he's attacking Monroe, a man he's never read his books nor listened to. How then did Drummaboy get informed? From web pages of fellow backbiters. Same him said pastors should get a job, now the condition is the job should be strictly gospe ie non secular. Suddenly, motivational and leadership personality should not train muslims and others.

When asked a brilliant question on how he'd advice a world leader, say obama calle d him and asked "WinsomeX, how do I fix falling crude oil price?" WinsomeX will immediately start preaching the gospel and asking for those who'd give their lives to Christ.

I dey watch o....I'm really tired sef, might see you all tomorrow. Just touched down in Lagos for IPPC, I am soooooooo tired.

[quote author=WinsomeX post=28067272]

It's your thread... see reasoning. Like it's your forum too abi? When do you plan to tell us your age sef? Let's start with that, then maybe we could excuse you for your baby talk. Your thread... on a public forum. I laff.

You and one other lady here are the adults asking for the age of another poster, and you both think you are in wisdom! Yes, it's my thread, if you hate the fact...hit the unfollow button.

Speaking about your thread. Let me congratulate you on the success of it so far, having run this many pages. As I see that such are the things you glory in.

Yeah, it's better than that thread you created to peddle falshood and gloat, having o.rgasmic pleasure in someone else's tough times. I glory in the impact of any thread I gvie time and energy to, not creating threads out of spite, bitterness and sheer envy.

The rest of what you wrote is obviously not worth a response. As to who has or will affect more people in life, Myles or me, I am ready to wait for eternity to reveal that.

Truth stings, don't she?
Wait on brother!

Only know that a health and wealth gospel, or a leadership and motivational gospel are NOT the gospel of Jesus Christ. They may help people to lead well in life and make the preacher wealthy but no one wil receive a reward for preaching such in the name of Christ.

Signed by:Senior Special Adviser to God on Worship Affairs.
Mr Drummaboy Esq

*clap fpr yourself

WinsomeX:
If I am not sure of anything else in life, I am certain of this one thing that the statement you quoted was not addressed to you. Yes it's a public forum and you could respond to whom you wish but does the above statement of yours not reveal even to you that you do not have capacity for this sort of discussion?

It's my thread, if I lack the capacity, please, take your discussion to a new thread, with those capable too, I promise not to interfere. But, if you won't, expect my full participation,. You cannot be the judge and jury in my court.

Now, I quoted you to halt your warped reasoning, for the sake of posterity- Monroe was wrong for "Preaching motivations and leadership in the name of Christian ministry."

Monroe you are trying to rubbish did far far more than you've done, or will do in 3 life times (assuming you continue the way you are now), he did far far more than you can wildly imagine you can do. Even if he was wrong, why don't you copy the right he did and add to your person? Always, you for weird reason love destructive criticism, and seem to know how everything should be done yet you NEVER made any stride in those directions to make even remote impact.

You criticise ministers and ministry on how they do things, yet you don't have anything to show for the true gospel you preach, you excuse is "narrow is the way, and only few find it"

You criticise books others wrote, yet you've written none, your blog failed, your ideas didn't work, did they? Yet you called Hagin a failure.

Your situation is redeemable sha, I have faith and hope.


Thanks in anticipation.

WinsomeX:
With all due respect to the dead, there is still no justification for a so called minister of God to charge money for a ministration, leadership or otherwise.

When men die, they are usually remembered for how they live not how they died.

I would have been happy that Myles Munroe was known strictly for motivation speaking and leadership training. That will be understandable. But for one to own a church and then claim to be a motivational speaker is to preach Another Gospel.

I think Nora should be permitted her criticism. If these men will not hear us when they are alive, I hope they or their followers will hear when they are dead.

You know nothing about ministry.

Now, even if he is not a Minister, he should not charge for using his God's given talents shey? If he doesn't charge money, how do you expect him to cover for materials, sound, lights and power, venue etc? And you still wonder why your blogging failed? I'd tell you. Envy and destructive criticism.

Skylarenchanted:
I remember once wen I noticed a lump in one of my breasts.It was so painful up 2 d point dat I couldn't sleep well at night. Didn't tell my parents tho cos I felt dey were gonna freak out ,so I went 2 church on a sunday and while d healing service was goin on I placed my hand on my breast nd prayed dat God should heal me. When I woke up d following day there was no lump and no pain in breast. I give God all d glory.

i like hearing these kinda statements. Jesus did not go to tha cross to raise sissies.

Seun,take heed,one day,you'd seek with tears in your eyes,a supernatural touch,but find none,or get some...whichever way,you'd have a testimony

thank God for the Holy Ghost.

Jesus is alive,forever

The Quality Of Your Personality -Sunday, November 16th .

Pastor Chris
…For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was (James 1:22-24).

Our opening scripture isn’t dealing with the image, in terms of the external form or representation of the man who looks at himself in the mirror, but with the “manner” or “kind” of man. A doer of the Word doesn’t forget the “manner” of man he is: the quality of his personality.

You’d understand this better if we read from the eighteenth verse; it says, “Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures” (James 1:18).

God gave birth to us by the Word of truth; that is, the Gospel of Christ, so that we should be a kind or type of firstfruits of His creatures. That’s awesome! What's the meaning of firstfruits? It means the first and the best of God’s creatures.When you were born again, you came up with a new kind and quality of life—the God-life. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, “...If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation...” As a new creation in Christ Jesus, you're the perfection of beauty, and the best of everything God made. You’re superior to Satan.

Thus, when a Christian says, “I need deliverance from the devil,” it’s because he has forgotten what “manner” or “type” of man he is. How could you need deliverance from Satan when you're superior to him?

The Bible says you’re seated together with Christ in the heavenly realms, far above all principality and power. You occupy the place of the highest authority in Christ Jesus, far above Satan and everything that’s connected to him.

Get to know the quality of your personality. It’s the reason we bring the Word of God to you everyday on different platforms, to enlighten you on who you are in Christ.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for making me the first and the best of everything you created. I’m the perfection of beauty, fashioned for excellence. My life is the manifestation of your glorious and majestic splendour; I display your perfections and unveil your multifaceted wisdom to the world, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. ; 

Ephesians 2:10 AMP
For we are God’s [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 12:14-29, Ezekiel 13-15
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 John 3:1-12, Ezekiel 47

flourishG:
r u reasoning from your feet? How can u tell a man intension? Dude stop dis gombs goat display of empty faculties.stop being asss hole, b a man n reason like da man dude u r growing older n age is running over u dude.

Noted

mbaemeka:
If it will give you peace of mind, you are right. We are shaming Christianity and you are extolling it. You and the JWs, Atheists, Agnostics and other confused people are doing a fine job extolling Christianity.

Abi o...

@candour, you sure have good reasoning ability, even though we may have our beliefs, much respect! I have said it, Joagbaje has no fraudulent intentions. That's all I'd say. That's my final word. Thanks

@ nannymcphee I did not read your post, I thought you said you cannot reason with me? Well, when I said the feeling was mutual, I meant every bit of it. Quit quoting me. I was never interested in your posts, I don't see why I should now.

Thanks for keeping away. Have a great crusade on NL. I will not interfere, remember, you've always been the one inviting me to threads and quoting me. Kindly desist henceforth.

I'm the kid here, you are the adult , start acting like one.

nannymcphee:
It's no use telling a blind man what color the sky is!!!

I cannot reason with you!!

The feeling is mutual

Candour:
@Gombs, are those the great answers you were preparing??

I hit the submit before I finished