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BabaGnoni:
Agreeing that "some ministers have done and are doing the above points listed" is half the battle is won.
- Glad to read the agreement

I have no grouse with Dr Myles Munro, especially now that he has moved on
- situation brought his mention on this thread.

No one is "grouping everyone under this WoF umbrella"
- it is the pig that gets its head stucked in the fence that squeals

Not so fast Watson. Showing, identifying and pointing out, is not criticizing but is giving advance warning and cautionary signs

We wouldnt be having this exchange if "sitting on the sidewalks..."

Just like Father Abraham told Lazarus, if they wouldnt pay attention now or take notice of the warnings now "writing the book, pastoring the church, preaching the gospel the way it ought to be preached... then come tell us to learn from you" would have no benefit

nannymcphee:
we agree that some ministers have done and are doing the above points listed, but we are talking about Dr Myles Munroe for now. you are grouping everyone under this WOF umbrella

I have to go with Gombs on this

Its not enough to criticize, you show the way!!! show how it ought to be done

dont just sit on the sidewalks and criticize!!

write the book, pastor the church, preach the gospel the way it ought to be preached... then come tell us to learn from you

It's your thread... see reasoning. Like it's your forum too abi? When do you plan to tell us your age sef? Let's start with that, then maybe we could excuse you for your baby talk. Your thread... on a public forum. I laff.

Speaking about your thread. Let me congratulate you on the success of it so far, having run this many pages. As I see that such are the things you glory in.

The rest of what you wrote is obviously not worth a response. As to who has or will affect more people in life, Myles or me, I am ready to wait for eternity to reveal that.

Only know that a health and wealth gospel, or a leadership and motivational gospel are NOT the gospel of Jesus Christ. They may help people to lead well in life and make the preacher wealthy but no one wil receive a reward for preaching such in the name of Christ.

WinsomeX:
If I am not sure of anything else in life, I am certain of this one thing that the statement you quoted was not addressed to you. Yes it's a public forum and you could respond to whom you wish but does the above statement of yours not reveal even to you that you do not have capacity for this sort of discussion?

WinsomeX:
With all due respect to the dead, there is still no justification for a so called minister of God to charge money for a ministration, leadership or otherwise.

When men die, they are usually remembered for how they live not how they died.

I would have been happy that Myles Munroe was known strictly for motivation speaking and leadership training. That will be understandable. But for one to own a church and then claim to be a motivational speaker is to preach Another Gospel.

I think Nora should be permitted her criticism. If these men will not hear us when they are alive, I hope they or their followers will hear when they are dead.

Skylarenchanted:
I remember once wen I noticed a lump in one of my breasts.It was so painful up 2 d point dat I couldn't sleep well at night. Didn't tell my parents tho cos I felt dey were gonna freak out ,so I went 2 church on a sunday and while d healing service was goin on I placed my hand on my breast nd prayed dat God should heal me. When I woke up d following day there was no lump and no pain in breast. I give God all d glory.

flourishG:
r u reasoning from your feet? How can u tell a man intension? Dude stop dis gombs goat display of empty faculties.stop being asss hole, b a man n reason like da man dude u r growing older n age is running over u dude.

mbaemeka:
If it will give you peace of mind, you are right. We are shaming Christianity and you are extolling it. You and the JWs, Atheists, Agnostics and other confused people are doing a fine job extolling Christianity.

nannymcphee:
It's no use telling a blind man what color the sky is!!!

I cannot reason with you!!

Candour:
@Gombs, are those the great answers you were preparing??

trustman:
"
18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
19 Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue is but for a moment. "
Prov. 12

nannymcphee:
Strife & bitterness against who?

Stopped who in which erroneous tracks?

What where does erroneous tracks?

did you see my post on the joabaje breaking news thread or you simply ignored it?

Can you point me to any of my post that shows strife & bitterness?

Can you make reference to any post where I used derogatory & condescending words?

Just incase you missed my post there, let me write it here

Below was ur response to me when I made the mistake
If you could say the above to me, for a mere typographical error(8yrs instead of 18yr)

Pls what do you have to say to Joagbaje?

you claim I lost my integrity for a typo error & that you could no longer trust me!!

But in that thread, you had no shame but went on a defense & animated Gif posting spree!!

Candour:
@the bolded, including the 'miracle' that never was?

trustman:
"
18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
19 Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue is but for a moment. "
Prov. 12

Bidam:
And a vulture troll always there to take sides. I don't blame you, after the babagnoni debacle your mind is full of bitterness and strife cos i exposed who you really are behind the mask. A hypocrite and a back stabber.

Bidam:
Bless you for this video, sin is actually deceptive with so many erroneous teachings going on the internet these days one needs to be really careful.

OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?

OLAADEGBU:
I thank God that the lies of your mentor are being exposed by SirJohn in the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1995144/breaking-news-joagbajes-miracle-hiv

striktlymi:
[img]Whether a miracle took place is a subject for debate but this episode has revealed a whole lot to me. Top on the list are:

1) There are people (including shameless Christians) whose delight is the fall of another.

2) One should exercise great caution before going public about a said miracle. A cue should be taken from the Catholic church on this. She can take years before going public with the talk of a miracle.

3) Joagbaje deserves respect for his role in establishing the lie of the one known as Jeff. My respect for him dropped with the e-fights on the tithe thingy but after yesterday it increased again.

4) Claims of miracles should be investigated by independent parties. Sirjohn did well to have investigated joagbaje's claim.

Though his investigations did not indict joagbaje of any fraudulent act but it did reveal the lies put forth by Jeff. People should always put on their skeptical hats when confronted with claims of miracles.

5) People are very ready to rubbish the name of another simply because they do not agree with the views of the accused. Notably are the so called Christians who revealed their vulture-like tendencies yesterday.

6) etc.

mbaemeka:
PaulGrundy,

I agree with everything you have said above. It's quite unfortunate at the turn of events albeit I wasn't privileged to see any of the said videos as I am one of those that staunchly believes the name of Jesus can heal any sickness or disease and as such, I ALWAYS believe in any miracle wrought in the name.

What was also unfortunate, is how otherwise naturally intelligent men kept intentionally misconstruing the stories and at times twisting them to make bro Jo look guilty. For example, Jo said he got the inner witness in himself that whoever he prayed for in that video got healed and when the so-called Jeff Niboro claimed the person to be him and also that he had medical proof that he was indeed healed of HIV Jo believed him wholeheartedly- who wouldn't? Especially when a HIV positive status is something that 99% of those suffering from, prefer to keep it clandestine. That's why Jo had the confidence to upload the video. But what did the naysayers claim? They claimed that Jo said the inner witness told him Jeff was the person in the video and one of them raised it as a poser to the cheers of his mischievous brothers.

As per John, he is now claiming to be giving Jo a soft-landing but that is not the case. Even he is convinced without a doubt that Jo is no fraud. He is only here to get his cheer-team heap faux praises on him while he surreptitiously attempts to bilk Jo of half a million Naira. Anyone reading his write-ups can tell that Jo only believed someone who wasn't telling the truth because he was trying to prove to these guys that the name of Jesus still heals today.

I didn't bother commenting on that thread about an hour ago when I peeped in and saw it. I have seen supposed true gospelers, atheists, mockers of the faith and JWs stand together and agree on one thing that they are so excited about. Let a few weeks pass and you would see 'caustic13' and 'irrationalsouls' say Christianity as a whole is fake and watch how the true gospelers won't be able to say a word against it because to a subtle degree they have already concurred with the atheists by endorsing their bile on that thread.

There is still more to happen. Even those who criticized now would renege in the near future. Some would stubbornly trudge on and be exposed (Euphemism alert). Mark it.

paulGrundy:
Tag: Gombs

Boss13:
he is a lunatic. exactly like the ones eating faeces in Upper Iweka Onitsha

vooks:
Gombs is a Christ Embassy hooligan. He will soil this place with gifs to irritate you. Ignore the kid.
His other specialty is spewing Oyaks puke all over.

trustman:
[size=14pt]He's proving himself not only to be a CLOWN but also suffering from some psychological (pathological?) condition.
Maybe he needs to visit the FMC.[/size]

Boss13:
He does it a lot. One of his ways to derail the thread especially when things are not in their favour. That was why I was mad, because they were so arrogant.

Topgainer:
Can Somebody tell Goons Gombs to stop flooding this thread with USELESS GRAPHICS,


We are not JOKING here. This is a serious issue any Christian should be concerned about

Topgainer:
GOMBs this thread is not gonna die.


It will be ONLINE for so long a time may possibly outlive Loveworlds should they continue with staged miracles to fetch God glory and fetch more fame for themselves. The very thing that puts Christianity ti disrepute

Victims then will come here to see they were fore-warned years ago and as such they will have some consolation

diluminati:
For real, i dont have your time. You can unfollow the thread now and never come back, just like you said.

As we await SirJohn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

diluminati:
And trust me, you aint laughing!

nep2ra:
Without a doubt, you are just an ar5se licking douche bag.
Go hang yourself.
Moronic oaf!