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Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:25pm On Nov 13, 2014
diluminati:
Dont please yourself boy, The candour to fish out fake pastors is burning than ever. You should know this thread will be one of the best threads of the year. Just like the way saTANs say all sorts of things to please their troubling hearts.
tongue tongue
this is not politics section... i hope you understand that fast
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:20pm On Nov 13, 2014
SalC:
You know what am talking about
grin grin grin grin grin grin

i know what you mean!...but, This thread will die faster than it came up... you doubt? cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:03pm On Nov 13, 2014
SalC:
Na this kain thing dey make me vex for you sad
Deal with it.

Which kind thing? My un following threads i dont see any god reason being in? Na by force to dey thread again?

Jo has put up his account, it's all side by side, there is nothing suggesting Jo was a fraud, if you think otherwise, ask SirJohn if he thinks joe had any fraudulent intentions anywhere.

Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:54pm On Nov 13, 2014
Would put up Jo's whatsapp chat screen grab soon.... as i am using my laptop and not the tab. After that, i would smile, take a deep breath.... and unfollow the thread.

Peace
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:50pm On Nov 13, 2014
striktlymi:
This is unbelievable!!!

You guys move from one rant to another and all that is needed are simply an accusation and the evidence to support it. If you say he is fraudulent, guy prove it na.
Bro, leave these folks
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:17pm On Nov 13, 2014
Joagbaje:
MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.
Thanks alooooooot jare.. now please just watch them from afar, with a grin. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:16pm On Nov 13, 2014
Joagbaje:
Gombs, I'm sending the screen shot of Jeff affirmation of the video on whatsapp to you now. Kindly post it for all to see
ok.. i await them. You know you don't have to convice anyone here, shey?
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:14pm On Nov 13, 2014
common sense theory

1. if Joagbaje had wanted to fool anyone, he surely would have forged a document.

2. if he was fraud, he would not have given Jeff's details and forgot to tell Jeff the scripts to play.

3. The only clear thing here is folks blowing stuffs out of proportions.


i would advice Jo to put up an explanation ie his side of the story, then unfollow the thread... let them call a dog a bad name and hang i for it.
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:08pm On Nov 13, 2014
i'm back... Candour, i saw your post...why exactly should i apologize to sirjohn?
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 5:37pm On Nov 13, 2014
Fourcade:
This doesn't make sense and you know it!
So he could have easily bribed his way out? I guess that's what the N30k was meant for!

Allow him to speak mbok!
so, if the 30k was for bribe, why did Jo now tell SirJohn about it?

Jo, please ignore the imp above me. Thanks in anticipation.
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 5:31pm On Nov 13, 2014
striktlymi:
At least that shows that he had nothing to hide. That fact alone has increased my respect for him. How many nairalanders can be that open? Can you?
Don't mind them jare... Joagbaje could have esily bribed Jeff... and we would not have been here to start with.

...but he didn't
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 5:30pm On Nov 13, 2014
Boss13:
FRAUSTER SHUT THE HELL UP. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO DIG UP HOW YOU BOASTED. YOU ARE A FRAUD, A SHAME AND DISGRACE TO MANKIND. SHUT UP

JOAGBAJE WHAT IS THIS BELOW?

Joagbaje:
I presented an HIV case that was healed here . I dare all of you to investigate it . Go to the federal medical centre . And expose my lie . I somehow think you guys knows I'm right but pride will not allow you to admit . If not somebody should have investigated this testimony .
You don't want him to speak again? Are you normal?
Christianity EtcRe: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 5:09pm On Nov 13, 2014
I'd contact Joagbaje for his side of the story!...


Meanwhile, nicely played stunt SirJohn. I'd be back smiley

You had to post the chat here too? That was private talk man!


EDITED:
I called him, he is enroute Port Harcourt (Driving)...He said he would visit the thread as soon as he stops driving.

Until then.... ***Unfollows thread***
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Go To Hell Between His Death And Resurrection? by Gombs(m): 8:27am On Nov 13, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
Look at who is talking! Your heresies refuted on this thread is open for everyone to see.
Keep up the delusions! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 7:13am On Nov 13, 2014
There’s Nothing More You Need To Do…Thursday, November 13th .

Pastor Chris

Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12).

No Christian needs to “pay any additional price,” outside of what Christ already paid to have an extraordinary life and be all that God wants us to be. Think about it: what did David do for God to choose him and make him king of Israel? Nothing.

What did Abraham do for God to choose him and say, “I'll make you great; I’ll bless you and make you a blessing, and through you and your seed the whole world will be blessed”? Again, like David, Abraham did nothing; it was simply God's choice.

Moses said to the children of Israel, “God blessed you because He loved your fathers,” referring to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; he didn’t say it was because they did anything. It was simply the result of His love.

What did Joseph do for his father Jacob to love him and give him a coat of many colours? He was one of Jacob’s many sons, but his father just loved him. He was neither the first nor the last child of his father; therefore, his father's love for him wasn't preconditioned on his position amongst the siblings. It was simply a matter of choice, though he was the son of his old age.

It’s the same with you today. God loves you, and He has qualified you to be a partaker of the inheritance of the saints in light. It’s your heritage in Christ to enjoy your life and live your best to the glory of God. He didn’t create you for destruction. When Jesus hung on the cross, He said, “It is finished.” He announced the end to suffering for all humanity. Now, anyone who believes in Him and accepts His vicarious sacrifice is automatically ushered into the transcendent life of dominion.

His sacrifice was enough. All He wants now is for you to take advantage of His grace. Enjoy the glory that resulted from the sufferings of Christ. There’s nothing more you need to do beyond what He already did.

Prayer...
Dear Lord, I thank you for the strength that comes to me from your Word. I thank you for the life I’ve received, by the resurrection of Christ from the dead. I thank you that I’m the object of your love, and my prosperity and wellbeing are your delight. I live in the victory of Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:

Titus 3:4-5
But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; ; 

Colossians 1:12-14
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 11:1-16, Ezekiel 5-7
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1John 1:1-10, Ezekiel 44
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:34am On Nov 12, 2014
vooks:
I expect everything but brains,logic,sense,intelligence and wisdom from Mrs Dumbo Obtuse Esq.
He is not a she.... like I asked before, are you sure you're ok? cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:05am On Nov 12, 2014
Follow The Prescribed Order · Wednesday, November 12

Pastor Chris

For because ye did it not at the first, the LORD our God made a breach upon us, for that we sought him not after the due order (1 Chronicles 15:13).

God wants you to carry out His instructions according to the prescribed order. To do otherwise is to walk against His perfect will, like what happened to David and the children of Israel when they didn’t follow His prescribed order in moving the ark of God into the city of David.David got a new cart, and two men, Uzzah and Ahio, rode in the cart together with the ark as they drove it to the city of David (2 Samuel 6:3).

Then, something significant happened. The oxen pulling the cart stumbled and the cart shook. Uzzah tried to stop the ark from falling and when he did, he died instantly. David, baffled and afraid at what had happened, wouldn’t bring the ark into the city anymore. They had to keep it in the house of a man named Obed-edom. Interestingly, while the ark of God was in Obed-edom’s house, he and his family prospered exceedingly.

David couldn’t but wonder why the same ark that Uzzah touched and died would bring so much blessing to another man and his family. Then he found out why, as he searched the Scriptures. In 1 Chronicles 15:2, God’s prescribed order was that only the priests (the Levites) should carry the ark of God. That was God’s plan.

David, realizing their error, said to the priests and elders of Israel, "For because ye did it not at the first, the LORD our God made a breach upon us, for that we sought him not after the due order" (1 Chronicles 15:13). How important this is! Uzzah could have been spared, had they followed God’s prescribed order.

It brings to mind the Lord’s admonition to Moses while he was to set up the Tabernacle; He said to him, "See…that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount" (Hebrews 8:5). There’s a pattern; there’s a way; there’s a prescribed order in doing the things of God; follow it and you’ll experience His grace and blessings in your life and service of God.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for revealing your perfect will and desire to me through your Word and by your Spirit. Now and always, I serve you, not on my own terms, but in accordance with your Word. I walk in the light of your Word, and therefore experience greater manifestations of the Spirit, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
Proverbs 19:20; [KJV] Hear counsel, and receive instruction, that thou mayest be wise in thy latter end.

Proverbs 4:13 [KJV] Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life.

1 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 10:19-39 Ezekiel 3-4
2 year Bible reading plan: 2 Peter 3:1-18 Ezekiel 43
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Go To Hell Between His Death And Resurrection? by Gombs(m): 5:57am On Nov 12, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:23).

If you don't understand my answer then below is bible commentary that explains this verse better.
The world can see you don't know what you're saying. Thanks for your time.
Christianity EtcRe: Words Of Wisdom From Lucifer by Gombs(m): 9:27pm On Nov 11, 2014
sonOfLucifer:
Who are you?
SonOfGod
Christianity EtcRe: BERNIMORE, Truthislight ,canticles, Loveroftruth, BIBLESPEAKS Re The Same Person by Gombs(m): 5:40pm On Nov 11, 2014
Both of you are guilty, but biblespeaks, you are very very very guilty. You deserve a long ban for multiple accounts.

Yooguyz is right, totally right. Biblespeaks, your putting that link above still worsened your denial.
Christianity EtcRe: Words Of Wisdom From Lucifer by Gombs(m): 5:31pm On Nov 11, 2014
I was here!

Jesus rules, and His knowledge shall cover the earth as the waters cover the sea.

Hello beloved sonOfLucifer? That's a cool name, it means son of light, Lucifer is a wonderful name, just that he turned himself into the Devil...if you had said SonOfTheDevil, ehen, that'd would be eerie!
CelebritiesRe: 10 Most Beautiful Cakes Of Nigeria Celebrity Wedding by Gombs(m): 4:00pm On Nov 11, 2014
Rapsainot:
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stonemind:
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omanifrank:
hm
briantext:
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Nairaland

See them Seun, greedy shidrens! grin grin grin grin grin
CelebritiesRe: 10 Most Beautiful Cakes Of Nigeria Celebrity Wedding by Gombs(m): 3:59pm On Nov 11, 2014
why is this on front page o!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:54am On Nov 11, 2014
vooks:
I don't need singles thing, am long past that by the grace of God
No marriage book? That's strange.

Thank you for your references.

Cheers bro wink
What do you think they discuss in Single seminars? How to remain single? grin
You welcome though
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:36am On Nov 11, 2014
vooks:
So you won't help me? You shared Hagin's books. Now please share Chris marriage books. You are not married but you will get there son
I haven't seen any, but I can recommend Hagin's! Ummmm... single's seminar with Pastor Chris, part 1 to 3, go find it, it's digital format, not a book.

As for marriage claims, your opinion is noted.
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:20am On Nov 11, 2014
vooks:
You want to help a brother out not mocking him when he is in need of counsel. How inconsiderate of you!
undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:19am On Nov 11, 2014
trustman:
It refers to the people addressed in its context.
Are you kidding me? shocked

Who was Isaiah 54:17 addressing?

Wait first, let me get you straight, are you confirming the above verse is not meant for the body of Christ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:16am On Nov 11, 2014
vooks:
Is there a specific confession I can make for my marriage?
Btw, am dying to read Rev Chris marriage books. What do you recommend? grin

God put us together, nothing but death can put us asunder. Therefore you spirit of divorce I roar at you like a young lion. I command you to somersault and die and then dissipate and dissolve into thin air.
How can I possibly divorce with such powerful confessions!
Nice try! Call WinsomeX, he's got juicy gist about Rev Chris. He like you, already concluded there was a divorce, and WinsomeX said he committed adultery. Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha, anyways, did you get the message?

I doubt!
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:14am On Nov 11, 2014
trustman:
Which words?
The words of the devotional penned by a man ?
Should devotionals be penned by God or Holy Spirit or by men? undecided

You keep getting weirder o! grin

Question is, did you get the message?
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 6:14am On Nov 11, 2014
A quick but powerful morning devotion. Shedemidemi, you'd take opening prayers, Bidam exhortation, emm... vooks, closing prayer.. me Rhapsody! cheesy

Use The Word For Healing And Health · Tuesday, November 11th

Pastor Chris

When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick (Matthew 8:16).

Someone might be in a precarious health condition and gripe, "I’ve prayed about this sickness; I’ve cried; I’ve fasted, and nothing has changed; I don’t know what else to do!" Well, that’s because you haven’t acted on the Word. That’s what God expects of you. When you act on the Word, things change. There’s reality in the Word of God that’s beyond science and the senses.

For example, when the world says an ailment is incurable, that limitation doesn’t include us, because when we lay our hands on the sick, they’re healed, irrespective of the condition. We can heal all manner of sickness and disease with the Word. When we speak the Word, diseases dematerialize. It’s like what happened with Jesus in Bible days; they brought to Him many that were possessed with devils, and He cast out the spirits with His Word, and healed all that were sick. Notice that He did it with His Word.When He said, "Receive your sight," the man that was born blind began to see.

When He said, "Rise up and walk," at His Word, the lame got up, walking and running. His Word restored even those that had their limbs amputated! There’s something about the Word of God!As you read this, it’s possible you have cancer in your body: All you need do is, speak the Word! Say, "My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and cannot cohabit with sickness." Therefore, call its name and say, "I command you to die in the Name of Jesus." Say, "In the Name of Jesus, I cut you out!"

It doesn’t matter what the condition is; perhaps it’s lameness, blindness or some disabilities; the power of God is available in His Word. Use the Word against it. No sickness can thrive in your body because of the impact of the divine life on your physical body. Halleluiah!

Confession...
Divinity is tabernacled in my physical body! I’m a new creation, not subject to the elements of this world. I live the transcendent life! Divinity flows in every fibre of my being, in every cell of my blood, and in every bone of my body! I reign over sickness, disease, poverty and lack! I’m superior to Satan. Glory to God!
https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/31#27905658

How can I read these words and make these confessions daily and fail in life or be sick or broke?
Christianity EtcRe: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:05am On Nov 11, 2014
Use The Word For Healing And Health · Tuesday, November 11th

Pastor Chris

When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick (Matthew 8:16).

Someone might be in a precarious health condition and gripe, "I’ve prayed about this sickness; I’ve cried; I’ve fasted, and nothing has changed; I don’t know what else to do!" Well, that’s because you haven’t acted on the Word. That’s what God expects of you. When you act on the Word, things change. There’s reality in the Word of God that’s beyond science and the senses.

For example, when the world says an ailment is incurable, that limitation doesn’t include us, because when we lay our hands on the sick, they’re healed, irrespective of the condition. We can heal all manner of sickness and disease with the Word. When we speak the Word, diseases dematerialize. It’s like what happened with Jesus in Bible days; they brought to Him many that were possessed with devils, and He cast out the spirits with His Word, and healed all that were sick. Notice that He did it with His Word.When He said, "Receive your sight," the man that was born blind began to see.

When He said, "Rise up and walk," at His Word, the lame got up, walking and running. His Word restored even those that had their limbs amputated! There’s something about the Word of God!As you read this, it’s possible you have cancer in your body: All you need do is, speak the Word! Say, "My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and cannot cohabit with sickness." Therefore, call its name and say, "I command you to die in the Name of Jesus." Say, "In the Name of Jesus, I cut you out!"

It doesn’t matter what the condition is; perhaps it’s lameness, blindness or some disabilities; the power of God is available in His Word. Use the Word against it. No sickness can thrive in your body because of the impact of the divine life on your physical body. Halleluiah!

Confession...
Divinity is tabernacled in my physical body! I’m a new creation, not subject to the elements of this world. I live the transcendent life! Divinity flows in every fibre of my being, in every cell of my blood, and in every bone of my body! I reign over sickness, disease, poverty and lack! I’m superior to Satan. Glory to God!

Further Study: 
Psalm 107:20; [KJV] He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

Proverbs 4:20-22
[KJV] Proverbs 4:20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
[KJV] Proverbs 4:21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
[KJV] Proverbs 4:22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

1 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 10:1-18 Ezekiel 1-2
2 year Bible reading plan : 2 Peter 2:1-22 Ezekiel 42
Christianity EtcRe: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 4:39pm On Nov 10, 2014
Bidam:
Health is wealth, a sick christian is a poor christian.
What do you understand by prosperity?
you couldn't have put it any better! Kudos

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