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trustman:
"
18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
19 Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue is but for a moment. "
Prov. 12

nannymcphee:
Strife & bitterness against who?

Stopped who in which erroneous tracks?

What where does erroneous tracks?

did you see my post on the joabaje breaking news thread or you simply ignored it?

Can you point me to any of my post that shows strife & bitterness?

Can you make reference to any post where I used derogatory & condescending words?

Just incase you missed my post there, let me write it here

Below was ur response to me when I made the mistake
If you could say the above to me, for a mere typographical error(8yrs instead of 18yr)

Pls what do you have to say to Joagbaje?

you claim I lost my integrity for a typo error & that you could no longer trust me!!

But in that thread, you had no shame but went on a defense & animated Gif posting spree!!

Candour:
@the bolded, including the 'miracle' that never was?

trustman:
"
18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
19 Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue is but for a moment. "
Prov. 12

Bidam:
And a vulture troll always there to take sides. I don't blame you, after the babagnoni debacle your mind is full of bitterness and strife cos i exposed who you really are behind the mask. A hypocrite and a back stabber.

Bidam:
Bless you for this video, sin is actually deceptive with so many erroneous teachings going on the internet these days one needs to be really careful.

OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?

OLAADEGBU:
I thank God that the lies of your mentor are being exposed by SirJohn in the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1995144/breaking-news-joagbajes-miracle-hiv

striktlymi:
[img]Whether a miracle took place is a subject for debate but this episode has revealed a whole lot to me. Top on the list are:

1) There are people (including shameless Christians) whose delight is the fall of another.

2) One should exercise great caution before going public about a said miracle. A cue should be taken from the Catholic church on this. She can take years before going public with the talk of a miracle.

3) Joagbaje deserves respect for his role in establishing the lie of the one known as Jeff. My respect for him dropped with the e-fights on the tithe thingy but after yesterday it increased again.

4) Claims of miracles should be investigated by independent parties. Sirjohn did well to have investigated joagbaje's claim.

Though his investigations did not indict joagbaje of any fraudulent act but it did reveal the lies put forth by Jeff. People should always put on their skeptical hats when confronted with claims of miracles.

5) People are very ready to rubbish the name of another simply because they do not agree with the views of the accused. Notably are the so called Christians who revealed their vulture-like tendencies yesterday.

6) etc.

mbaemeka:
PaulGrundy,

I agree with everything you have said above. It's quite unfortunate at the turn of events albeit I wasn't privileged to see any of the said videos as I am one of those that staunchly believes the name of Jesus can heal any sickness or disease and as such, I ALWAYS believe in any miracle wrought in the name.

What was also unfortunate, is how otherwise naturally intelligent men kept intentionally misconstruing the stories and at times twisting them to make bro Jo look guilty. For example, Jo said he got the inner witness in himself that whoever he prayed for in that video got healed and when the so-called Jeff Niboro claimed the person to be him and also that he had medical proof that he was indeed healed of HIV Jo believed him wholeheartedly- who wouldn't? Especially when a HIV positive status is something that 99% of those suffering from, prefer to keep it clandestine. That's why Jo had the confidence to upload the video. But what did the naysayers claim? They claimed that Jo said the inner witness told him Jeff was the person in the video and one of them raised it as a poser to the cheers of his mischievous brothers.

As per John, he is now claiming to be giving Jo a soft-landing but that is not the case. Even he is convinced without a doubt that Jo is no fraud. He is only here to get his cheer-team heap faux praises on him while he surreptitiously attempts to bilk Jo of half a million Naira. Anyone reading his write-ups can tell that Jo only believed someone who wasn't telling the truth because he was trying to prove to these guys that the name of Jesus still heals today.

I didn't bother commenting on that thread about an hour ago when I peeped in and saw it. I have seen supposed true gospelers, atheists, mockers of the faith and JWs stand together and agree on one thing that they are so excited about. Let a few weeks pass and you would see 'caustic13' and 'irrationalsouls' say Christianity as a whole is fake and watch how the true gospelers won't be able to say a word against it because to a subtle degree they have already concurred with the atheists by endorsing their bile on that thread.

There is still more to happen. Even those who criticized now would renege in the near future. Some would stubbornly trudge on and be exposed (Euphemism alert). Mark it.

paulGrundy:
Tag: Gombs

Boss13:
he is a lunatic. exactly like the ones eating faeces in Upper Iweka Onitsha

vooks:
Gombs is a Christ Embassy hooligan. He will soil this place with gifs to irritate you. Ignore the kid.
His other specialty is spewing Oyaks puke all over.

trustman:
[size=14pt]He's proving himself not only to be a CLOWN but also suffering from some psychological (pathological?) condition.
Maybe he needs to visit the FMC.[/size]

Boss13:
He does it a lot. One of his ways to derail the thread especially when things are not in their favour. That was why I was mad, because they were so arrogant.

Topgainer:
Can Somebody tell Goons Gombs to stop flooding this thread with USELESS GRAPHICS,


We are not JOKING here. This is a serious issue any Christian should be concerned about

Topgainer:
GOMBs this thread is not gonna die.


It will be ONLINE for so long a time may possibly outlive Loveworlds should they continue with staged miracles to fetch God glory and fetch more fame for themselves. The very thing that puts Christianity ti disrepute

Victims then will come here to see they were fore-warned years ago and as such they will have some consolation

diluminati:
For real, i dont have your time. You can unfollow the thread now and never come back, just like you said.

As we await SirJohn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

diluminati:
And trust me, you aint laughing!

nep2ra:
Without a doubt, you are just an ar5se licking douche bag.
Go hang yourself.
Moronic oaf!

diluminati:
Dont please yourself boy, The candour to fish out fake pastors is burning than ever. You should know this thread will be one of the best threads of the year. Just like the way saTANs say all sorts of things to please their troubling hearts.

SalC:
You know what am talking about

SalC:
Na this kain thing dey make me vex for you

striktlymi:
This is unbelievable!!!

You guys move from one rant to another and all that is needed are simply an accusation and the evidence to support it. If you say he is fraudulent, guy prove it na.

Joagbaje:
MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

Joagbaje:
Gombs, I'm sending the screen shot of Jeff affirmation of the video on whatsapp to you now. Kindly post it for all to see

Fourcade:
This doesn't make sense and you know it!
So he could have easily bribed his way out? I guess that's what the N30k was meant for!

Allow him to speak mbok!

striktlymi:
At least that shows that he had nothing to hide. That fact alone has increased my respect for him. How many nairalanders can be that open? Can you?

Boss13:
FRAUSTER SHUT THE HELL UP. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO DIG UP HOW YOU BOASTED. YOU ARE A FRAUD, A SHAME AND DISGRACE TO MANKIND. SHUT UP

JOAGBAJE WHAT IS THIS BELOW?

Joagbaje:
I presented an HIV case that was healed here . I dare all of you to investigate it . Go to the federal medical centre . And expose my lie . I somehow think you guys knows I'm right but pride will not allow you to admit . If not somebody should have investigated this testimony .