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shdemidemi:
Did I report any problem to you?

shdemidemi:
ask me what? speak if you have something to say.

shdemidemi:
Did you read all of this from Romans 8:26?

Bidam:
Take am easy trustwoman, you take things too seriously like women. As a mentee, you should wait for your mentor to wake up and answer all his mentions.

trustman:
You guys are not only CLOWNS but equally sadists.

If you were in the dark ages you'll most probably be physically beheading Christian brethren who have opposing views to yours.

One word vooks used in his posts describe you all - DISHONEST. Remember 2 Timothy 3?

Bidam:
Good to see you bro.. where have you been?

Bidam:
Did you consult your study tool? I am not mbaemeka, everyone has a unique style of driving home his points. I Like making a public display before destroying puffed up imaginations and ideas of men.

Bidam:
Why are you angry? GOOSY GOOSY GANDER.

Victoriousvic:
deejayharry1, FKO1, okikioluwa1, lanicky, Gombs, tamunokepiriye

Please come in and vote for vivly.

Thank you.

OLAADEGBU:
When you spell flesh backwards using the h for him or her what do you get? A dead man walking can either be a soulish or a selfish/carnal person.

Oyinprince:
Thanks , Good Morning sir. You've not posted ROR today o

OLAADEGBU:
What does the Bible say?

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them" (Genesis 1:26-27).

According to the Bible, man is distinct from all the rest of creation, including the animals, in that he is made in the image of God. As God is a tripartite -- Father, Son and Holy Spirit -- so man is three parts -- body, soul and spirit. In the most explicit example from Scripture of these divisions, Paul writes:

"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly, and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:23).

OLAADEGBU:
Another error from the pit of hell. Man is not a spirit but he has a spirit, has a soul and has a body. The human nature is comprised of a spirit, a soul, and a body. Offer your body as a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1), thank God for saving your soul (1 Peter 1:9), and worship God in spirit and truth (John 4:23-24).

And as for the rest of my objections, you better not argue or else...

vooks:
I have those moments I wish I was a kid. That's when the idea of silly gifs come up

trustman:
[size=18pt]Clown![/size]

vooks:
I picked it up from Gombs. Pidgin I can't speak nor write.Am tempted to post his silly gifs just to tease him. Oyaks will be the character

shdemidemi:
Mr Gombs! Since when as it become a crime to watch from behind the curtain? I chose to keep mute bro, I had nothing to add to this book. I believe the writer of the book is in error, how well can a blind man lead another blind.

The mark of true spirituality is when somebody corrects you and they are right and you readily debunk and repent from what you did know and embrace what is the truth. It's quite unfortunate that most religious nairalanders find it difficult to do this.

We have so many confused cults, denominations and sects within the christian community because we refuse to dissect, divide the word of God appropriately. We have so much trust in the interpretation of our god like pastors and teachers so much that that we refuse to discern a false teacher from a true teacher of God's word.

These supposed men draw us to parts of scriptures that promises so much earthly utopia. I wonder if they themselves live in the perfect world they try to sell to us! For this reason, we abandon the words of the very minister appointed by God to us gentiles, while some simply conflate the words of this apostle with a separate programme message.

Romans 11
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Do we force health, wealth and prosperity gospel on the present dispensation of grace? of course we do. A topic our Apostle(one sent forth) never taught.

Philippians 4

5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

The Apostle says to the body of Christ that we should make our request to God, but he never said we shall receive because we have asked. God might say yes to it, He might delay it and He might say no to it. It's God's will and not the will of man.

Many christians ignore this part that was primarily written to the church for the earthly/kingdom programme that says -

mat 21:22
22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

How many people have prayed this prayer and it doesn't happen! In fact, God answers more of the things we never asked Him than the ones we ask to show us how sovereign He is. This sort of teaching frustrate so many who are yet to be completely deluded by their prosperity teachers and life coaches.

Baptism
Some mix water baptism with the spiritual baptism,

Forgiveness
some mix God's conditional forgiveness(Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.) with the unconditional forgiveness taught by the Apostle under Grace.
col 2:13
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Prayer
The apostle says- Rom 8:26- Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit(Holy Spirit) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Yet, some make claims that they have been called in to a ministry of prayer.


We will continue having these baseless arguments if we keep mixing the earthly people and heavenly people.

nlMediator:
I may be mistaken, but were you not the guy that asked that pidgin not be spoken to you because you're not Nigerian? You know of and use Gbam, huh?

nlMediator:
Thank you, jare. It is sad that some people that call themselves Christians don't know this simple truth. I didn't have the strength to do the bobo's homework for him. Sadder still because this guy claimed to have attended Sprit-filled churches for years until he was shown the door by one last year or so.

And what he stated was not an experience? An experience he chose not to speak about? I think you should just allow the discussion to continue while you observe. You really don't have to talk.

What are you taking about? I do not have the right to quote another monicker? You want me to tell you whether DrummaBoy is WinsomeX? I have told you before I have no comments on monickers. You and your friends may continue to seek to find the mystery behind those monickers. Hope the mystery is solved some day. I wish you all the best. If I were you, I will devote my time to something more worthwhile.

WinsomeX:
You said the Holy Spirit came to replace Jesus. I said no. You said this dispensation is the dispensation of the Spirit and I said no it isn't.

DrummaBoy had pasted an article where he made it clear that the Christian devotion was to Christ and not to the Spirit. A point he believes was drawn home by the Spirit being mentioned once on Colossians. He said that the over emphasis on the Spirit is the root of errors by groups like the Pentecostals that leads them into mysticism. Even at that he made it clear that he was not belittling the Holy Spirit only stating that Christians should lay the right emphasis.

You refuted this position by saying that the Holy Spirit has come to replace Christ and I made it clear to you that that is error because the gospel we preach is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not of the Spirit and our devotion is to Christ and not the Spirit.

Apparently when the error of your initial position downed on you, you have now helped us with your "in that sense statement" below. But the fact remains that the root of so much errors in the church, especially Pentecostals, is mysticism that arises from an emphasis on the Spirit that scripture does not teach. If however it is in this "sense" you mean that the Spirit "replaced" Christ in us, we are on the same page then.





I am not "attacking" anyone. If that's how your simple mind sees it, then mature in thinking. I just told your "boy" the facts I am defending here.

Also, my Christian life is not experience based. I don't count them as things to recount to anyone. They are personal and yes I will keep them closeted. You could as well ask Paul why he kept his closeted too.

2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

And as to your counsel to seek a "deeper Christian life", thank you but no thanks. Go and find out the beginning of all errors in all religion. It was always because the simplicity of Christ was not enough for them and while seeking "deeper life" they encountered demons. I don't need it. I am complete in Christ - the message of epistle to the Colossians.

nlMediator:
You guys are so comfortable with lying. Raises questions about who you fellowship with more: the father of lies or the Father of life? Can you point to just ONE place in almost 70 years of ministry where Hagin claimed to be an apostle?

BabaGnoni:
The facts and truths are "Holy Ghost laughter" is nothing more than just glorified "Laughter yoga"
- an exercise done in groups, involving making faces, sticking out tongues, prolonged voluntary laughter, and where feigned/forced/suggestive laughter soon turns into real and contagious laughter.

Otherwise, it then is something else worse, sinister and darkening, on par with Kundalini.

"Baba", been an Apostle as he claimed he was, had prophesied (i.e. this is captured on video) that God promised Him that a new wave of special anointing will sweep across the country and the world beyond

Since then, "Baba" had been trying to validate this prophecy, with the occasional attempts of laughing in Pastors meetings at his Tulsa base,
this is all long before Rodney Howard Brown came on the scene.

The "finale" video which you conveniently left out, is where "Baba" said it is the first time they experienced the FULL manisfestation of the laughing anointing (i.e. all other incidents or videos prior the finale video were warm ups)

WinsomeX:
Since you responded to only two of all the issues I spoke on, I would assume that you have no other queries with the others.



You said the Holy Spirit will be Christ's replacement. You have however modified replacement with "somebody like Jesus that will be in His place among the believers" - drawing closer to my own position that the Holy Spirit is our helper and called to a duty and not necessarily the center of our devotion as Christians. You may supply the original Greek meaning of the word Comforter but I am sure they will not be too far from these. And non of them is anything close to REPLACEMENT.

John 14:16
KJV:And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

ESV:And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,

NIV:And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—

AMP:And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, and Standby), that He may remain with you forever—

Comforter: helper, advocate, counsellor, intercessor, strengthener, standby.

Which of these is close to REPLACEMENT? I do not believe that the meaning of the word comforter should be "somebody like Jesus to take his place among Christians"; I would however accept "somebody like Jesus who will help the believer to be What Christ will have us be".

I insist that the Spirit is not to take the place of Christ in Christian devotion but to help the believer in his devotion to Christ. There is a lot of difference here.



I have spiritual experiences. I don't have experiences of Spirit laughter and I am not ridiculing it; I am stating a fact and truth, regardless of how you see it.

I referred you to 2 Cor 12, and I am sure you missed the point. Paul had a spiritual experience; a valid one. Rather than flaunt it around and use it as basis of his teaching, he made it clear that he could not tell the things he heard or experienced. That's a proof of legitimate Christian experiences. They are not means to legitimize doctrine (eg: Jesus appeared to me and said Christians should...); they are personal experiences that aid personal devotion to God. The moment experiences become something you share on nl, know that there is more of self glorification in it and God's Spirit never authors such.

If however you can tell that I do not have these experiences, you must be omniscient then.

vooks:
I [s]salute the fact that for once you have quoted something other than Oyaks puke. That's Darwinian evolution unraveling before our eyes

Gill is not here to answer me so I can't debate that yet their comments on that verse involve some serious conjecture.If commentators want to fantasize Jesus in the wilderness having some quiet times with snakes and wild dogs, they are entitled to that, just realize there is NO evidence and this is pure conjecture. He was in the wilderness away from man. John was away for years and this may suggest that there is NOTHING in that verse beyond telling us there were wild animals there.

Candour has in very many words called you a m.oron for thinking that only pain from a bite could have prompted his reaction. Are you telling us that had he not been bitten he would have watched the snake dance on his hand through out the night?

And Lobeez reminded you that a snake bite is an injury on itself. having needle-like fangs one inch in your flesh is painful. Scriptures say he was unharmed

Acts 28:5 (KJV)
5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm

Paul's reaction to a serpent on his hand is no different from David killing bears and lions; self defence. It is precisely the same reason Oyaks has bodyguards and drives an armored ride. He is too important to die unlike useless sheeple like yourself [/s]

BabaGnoni:
^^^
https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical/42#27701533
BabaGnoni: 9:48pm On Nov 03
https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical/42#27701542
BabaGnoni: 9:48pm On Nov 03

Are you dreaming Gombs?
- Sarcasm doesn't suit you. Leave it for the pros

BabaGnoni:
^^^
Are you immuned to recognising sarcasm?
- Everyone does except you. Would have thought once bitten, twice shy by now

vooks:
Now,
I have never read that verse before. Thank you kid

and was with the wild beasts: which shows, that he was now in an uncultivated and uninhabited part of the desert by men, and where only the most fierce and most savage of creatures dwelt; and yet was as secure and unhurt by them, being the Lord of them, as Adam in Eden's garden, or Daniel in the lions' den.

This circumstance is only related by the Evangelist Mark, and is what adds to the uncomfortable situation Christ was in, when tempted by Satan; and his being not hurt by them, may declare, partly his innocence, as man, being as pure and holy as the first man was in his state of integrity, when all creatures were brought before him, to give them names; [size=20pt]and partly the power of God, who shut up the mouths of these creatures, [/size]that they did him no hurt; and also may signify, the awe they stood in of him, who, as God, is Lord of all. These creatures were more gentle to Christ, and used him better than the wicked Jews, among whom he dwelt, who are compared to lions, dogs, and "bulls" of Bashan, Psalm 22:12.