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Image123:
Nanny, when you say no one, recall that the OP says otherwise. i quote " Simply put, this egocentric gospel teaches that God wants believers to be materially wealthy." The OP describes encouraging prayer to God for material provisions as faulty theology. Well, except the OP is "no one". That [size=20pt]Windowsx[/size] of a fellow also said " The error of the Prosperity Gospel is "God wants believers to be materially wealthy". What bible taught you that?" You yourself earlier said there is no direct promise of God providing wealth in the NT. You've being so so skeptical, yet you yourself are a product and testimony of God's material blessings. You wan solo the thing abi? No chance.
It is the right of every child of God to be holy, godly, healthy and wealthy. The price was paid and the promise severally made. Of course, it is God that determines whether an individual is saved, holy, godly, healthy or wealthy or whatever, in a sense.
For instance, this promise below is very new covenant and talks of material blessing.

Ezekiel 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. 36:29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. 36:30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

*falls of chair laughing

Nice piece bro

Image123:
Just seeing this and it's largely my position. Na where the thread for end sef.
#But the last line shock me like agbalumo, Hahahaha. i remember when i said i wasn't interested in talking tithe and this same fellow was on my case as if it was his prerequisite to salvation. Time and chance.

Image123:
If you pray for God to bless you materially, you have no moral right to ask others not to teach that God blesses people materially. It is that basic. It seems the devourer has dealt unfairly to your common sense. Today is 17, make plans for end of the month tithe, lol. Oh you no get church sef, see me later.
Do you pray for material blessings? Is financial increase good news to the poor? Is healing good news to the sick?
i continue to find your breed of Christianity more dangerous than those your "nuggets", because you deceive sincere people with your form of godliness but daily deny the power thereof.

The latter part of your post is spot on!

@Lambanopeace... here I am o! Hope you are good? I see you're about getting acquainted with NL religion section? There are times you just have to watch, and times you have to be 'merciless'... with Nannymcphee, one has to watch her, and watch her new suitors Drummaboy, vooks et al court her properly. I remember the words of Pastor Chris, he said "you don’t have to shout loud and get angry because someone does not believe the truth", this is the opposite with the anti tithe cum anti wealth cum anti miracle etc folks.

Watch it, , they’re gonna create another thread after this, yet, for years no impact. Their anti tithe tract thread was 3 month old on 13th, yet no action, maybe you should visit the thread and see the energy they had!

Me, and all I've met will do this Word, whether it's sweet or not! Giving is not by force, it's a lifestyle we chose, and it's atimes not always convenient, but then, that's why we faint not. For we know the cause we give for, and it's for the vision of the BLW Nation, "Taking God's divine presence to the people and nations of the world, demonstrating the character of the Spirit".

If anyone has issues with my tithing and givings, he should deal with it. I change lives with my monies, not abstractly, but physically. This past 3 months, I've changed 4 cultists and thieves, not to mention the promiscuous ladies, with what? MONEY! MONEY!! MONEY!! Free transportation, free ministry materials, free food money, free airtime etc... and I pray and watch them change. The other day, one of them gave his first, for partnership, N300 for Healing School. I was elated, not because he gave, but because he caught the vision! I watch them make confessions in His name, I watch them bring their friends along to church, tomorrow now, they'd be mega givers, and those writing against prosperity of believers would still keep writing. ALL those who criticize rich believers are broke people (ie they rarely ever give, and before long, they're complaining of lack of money), and they are so because of their criticism, not that they don't work hard.

Watch them, they never create topic to edify the brethren, they always create topics to spurn arguments or spread lies all in the guise of 'exposing the truth'. Never will they discuss soul winning, when you do, they avoid the thread, never will they discuss the supernatural life, when you do they invade it and try to show a new type of message different from the Bible, they never talk about how to take this gospel to Nations with policies against Christianity, when you do, they'd say why should money be involved. They, in short, have a massive and disturbing problem with seeing MONEY and CHURCH in one sentence.

Most folks here against prosperity of believers in the pretence of 'it is not in the NT', HAS NEVER discipled anyone in the way of Christ, if they had, they'd understand alot better. Forget nannymcphee and her 11years in CEC and the imaginary seed she amazingly thought she has sown...those are ridiculous tales by moonlight. I became a son 5years ago, there is always room for overtaking. Mbaemeka, daaalu, Chukwu gozie gi, obele ihe k'oka fo, ozioma Jisos ga enwe mmeri, okwa nairaland a?

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Manage Your Mind To Produce Excellence · Saturday, October 18th

Pastor Chris

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God (Romans 12:1-2).

Did you know that you can manage your mind? That’s what renewing the mind is about. You can get into your mind and decipher what files need to be "deleted," and what files need to be "downloaded" and installed, as it were. You can determine what changes to make in the structure of your thinking; that’s mind management; it’s the primary principle for increasing your value, multiplying your success and upgrading your state.

Where you are today is a function of your mind. Your personality is the expression of your mind, and as a Christian, you must learn to manage your mind. If you don’t manage your mind, it’ll keep giving you what it already has stored up, good or bad. Sometimes people ask, "What more can I do? I’ve tried hard about this; I’ve prayed and fasted; I’ve done this and that, and I still haven’t had much success." Manage your mind.

Our opening scripture says, "…be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." That means you have the responsibility to transform your life from glory to glory; you have the responsibility to manage your mind to produce excellence. God expects this of you; He instructs you to do it because He has put the ability within you for that purpose. Your life: How you live, what you do, the character of your words, the totality of your personality, is the expression of your mind.

What changes do you want to make? What more would you like to add to, or take out of, your life? You can achieve these by renewing your mind with the Word, synchronizing your thoughts with the Spirit of God. The Bible says as a man thinks in his heart, so is he (Proverbs 23:7). You’re the character of your thoughts; therefore, manage your mind to produce excellence.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the ability given to me to manage my mind. I renew my mind with your Word daily, to become all you’ve destined me to be, and fulfil your perfect will. I bring forth excellence from my spirit today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
1 Corinthians 2:16; For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ

Philippians 4:8  Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

1 year Bible reading plan: 2 Thessalonians 3:1-18 Jeremiah 3-4
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 9:1-10 Ezekiel 16

"A Wiser Than Solomon…" · Friday, October 17th

Pastor Chris

But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption… (1 Corinthians 1:30).

Solomon’s extraordinary amplitude and sagacity of mind inspired many in his day, and left them in awe. He was celebrated as the wisest man that ever lived, until Jesus. The Bible says all Israel revered and admired Solomon because of the manifestation of the wisdom of God in his life: "And all Israel heard of the judgment which the king had judged; and they feared the king: for they saw that the wisdom of God was in him, to do judgment" (1 Kings 3:28).

Now, how did Solomon get his wisdom? God gave it to him; and He did it through words. He said to Solomon, "...I have given thee a wise and an understanding heart..." (1 Kings 3:12); that was all. He didn’t try to "fix" anything into Solomon’s head to make him wise; He didn’t even touch him. He only spoke words, and Solomon believed and began to manifest wisdom.

However, when Jesus came, He said, "A greater than Solomon is here," referring to Himself (Matthew 12:42, Luke 11:31). This Jesus, the Bible says, has been made unto us wisdom from God; meaning that Christ is your wisdom. This makes you also, "a greater than Solomon." You have "phronesis" (Greek), which is the wisdom of the just; practical wisdom; a fixed mental attitude or programming of the mind to reason, respond, interpret situations, and behave in a certain way, usually, the most excellent way!

Christ is your wisdom. This makes you also, "a greater than Solomon." You have "phronesis" (Greek), which is the wisdom of the just; practical wisdom; a fixed mental attitude or programming of the mind to reason, respond, interpret situations, and behave in a certain way, usually, the most excellent way!

Confession...
 Christ is my excellent wisdom. I have an excellent mind; everything I do turns out right, because I live in the will of God, guided, guarded, and propelled by wisdom. Halleluiah!

Further Study: 
1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

Colossians 1:27  To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

1 year Bible reading plan: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 Jeremiah 1-2
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 8:1-13 Ezekiel 14-15

On a fairer note, I'd hav e to leave this thread. It now looks like a face off, and I don't really want to be responsible or be a direct or indirect reason to get someone on a bad side of things. I'm sorry, but it looks like I'm bullying. Not my intention if that's the case.

I've had friends leave CEC and advised me to come over with them...I've always refused. Though some left because of minimal issues like Pastor not siding them in a particular matter or that givings are 'too much'. My friend left because her pastor as she said was 'greedy', but she still misses Pastor Chris' meetings and messages.

Whatever be the reason for folks leaving, whoever was right or wrong isn't material here. If one is going to be better in their Christian life somewhere else, it's a big plus, where issues are is if they aren't.

Nannymcphee, your thread of proponents of touch not my annoited and this is a pointer, if you deem leaving CEC is best for you, for whatever reasons, do so. Thank you for your time.

Signing out!
Peace

nannymcphee:
I know the likes of Gombs, mbaemeka etc will not turn around now but I know seeds are being sowed in their hearts(when will they bear fruits, that I can't tell & I hope it doesn't happen too late)

I only engage them because in so doing peradventure they might go study from The bible what God has to say about these things

Most of what they say here isn't what they studied from the bible but what they have been taught by their pastors & a lot don't bother checking the scriptures even if & when they check its still interpreted from that same view, so at the end of the day, no difference

Why my case is slightly different is because I listened to other ministers & this availed me the opportunity to view things in different perspective

Ehnnnn, we gree! Carry your studying to another ministry.... Pastor Chris must be a super charlatan then..., he successfully deceived over 20 million folks world wide, and the ones who are studying are on nairaland.com staging a campaign for those in CEC to hear them.

#facinating

nannymcphee:
]I already know the response of Gombs & co to what I have written, I know how the average CE member think

Quit Hallucinating

if you are not in CE, there are certain things you won't understand, firstly you are not encouraged to listen to other ministers outside the ministry excerpt those that are shown on the ministry's satellite station

I am forced to call you a liar...a sore one. I once said on this forum that I'm garnished by a fine combination of Kenneth Hagin, Idahosa, T. D. Jakes, Pastor Chris, and E. W. Kenyon.

Pastor Chris has mentioned Hinn, Joel Osteen, Hagin, Yon gi Cho, etc in his messages, how is that a way of discouraging folks from listening to ministeries outside? I listen to Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ibiyomie, Etc.

On loveworld plus and sat, there are other ministers shown there too...why then did you decide to lie ma'am? Meanwhile, if I'm well fed here, and I do like the berean christians, and see that these things are true, why go around looking for another opinion?

Hence the one angular view of interpreting scriptures

You want us to have diversified views of things when we both follow one man as he follows Christ? You are what Paul warned his churches, he said "beware of dogs".

secondly pastor Chris says that the church isn't a democracy so if you are not ok with the ways thing are being run, you are free to leave(so no one is being held against his/her wishes

Beni, some folks didn't like how Paul ran the ministry, they left...if you are planning on leaving, do it quietly. God bless you

There are other things that I can't write here cos I don't believe in washing one's dirty laundry outside

Whatever you say is between you, the devil and your conscience. God would just be watching, as I would.

Do I have any regret of being a member of CE, no I don't

I never will too.

The only way you don't get burnt in CE, is if you know your left from right & keep things in balance

nannymcphee:
Yes I'm still a member but I'm biding my time to leave

why am I still there?

the Christian growth is in phases, before joining CE, I had already developed the habit of reading books by Pentecostals & after joining, the practiced continued so this helped me put the CE teaching in balance, but at the same time seeds were being sown as a result of these teachings from other ministers(books/messages)

At the fullness of time, questions began to arise in my heart & I began to put away some practices(all this I will attribute to the seeds I referred to)

but the WOF thread triggered the full realization of the wrong practices, you will notice I asked loads of questions & did more study, I'm still studying on those issues till now

The above events took place within a span of 11yrs

I don't want to leave now becos I haven't figured where to go now, everywhere seems to have an aspect they have missed (I now understand why certain folks have stopped going to church)

So I'll bide my time & decide where to go after careful study of the intended place of worship

Bookmarked

Holla me whenever you decided to leave. May I ask who's your Zonal pastor?

nannymcphee:
Really!!! You think the true riches the bible was talking about is material acquisition

The verses up there has nothing to do with material prosperity

you folks keep saying the the poor Christian is in that state because of choice or lack of knowledge yet you can't show where it was stated in the NT

Paul acknowledged the poor & nowhere did he prescribe that they give so that they will have

The saints of old sold all they had & laid it at the apostles feet & no one lacked among them

No one lacked because those that had gave, who were these that lacked prior to the giving? Weren't they Christians? Do you find the apostles teaching these folks that lack was bad

What about the widows that were neglected that led to the office of deacons? Why did they need the ministration if they had? Do you find the apostles teaching them on how it's their right to have becos Christ died for them

I'd respond soon... meanwhile, you've not stated how or in what ways God fund His work!

WinsomeX:
@nannymcphee,

I have two questions for you and I want you to believe me that they are not meant to spite you.

1. Are you still a member of Christ Embassy?

2. If you are, can you explain why you are still a member of that church seeing that your views are at variance with theirs?

Thanks in advance.

Hello Drummaboy, No Oyakhilome or CEC headlines lately huh?

mbaemeka:
I don't know what this thread would have been without you bro. Thanks.

You welcome bro...so, who's Hogan and who's Hitman Hart?

vooks:
It is not why Paul couldn't heal him sir. He too was a partaker of the same faith. Paul states as a matter of fact that they was with him and he was sick and he left him sick. A disease-free utopia preached by WOF is contradicted by existence of sickness near Paul/Paul's companions.

Ah! I now see where this was heading

Ditto poverty.

You've strayed away buddy! Maybe you should read where we left off, I am not interested in derailing. Ok then, list for me how many of Paul's companions that were broke or in poverty. Or, please show me where Paul taught on accepting poverty! Oya quote where he said "I learnt to be contented in whatever state I am..." let me use that scripture to blast you into oblivion.

But you never know, these WOF nuggets was hidden for hundreds of years waiting for Oyaks and others to discover. New revelation

I ain't interested in discussing WOF with you, nor want to delve into the thread you guys have...quit throwing me baits. This was how you proliferated the link on other threads in a move to get me there. I'm beginning to get irritated by it. If you want a discuss about WOF, we had a one before NL crashed...we can cache it and continue fro there.

So now we have two dumb excuses for zero healing;
1. Lack of faith/ignorance
2. A precautionary measure lest the faith healer is exalted above measure even

Take your WOF opinions off this thread o! Quit derailing[/quote]

nannymcphee: God has a way of funding it's His work

Good, what ways please? How does He do it? Edify me ma'am.

My God is not an 'it', maybe yours is!

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I'm a delegate too & guess what, i wont go-work related reason (hope u know what it takes to be a delegate for this year & I didn't just hit the minimum, it's way above that )

Thanks for saving sace for someone else!

The last IPPC I attended was 2007, I have always made delegate since then

May God bless your givings to the work of Ministry ....Amen

so when I write here, I know what I'm writing so don't think I'm someone who isn't a giver !!!

The fact you sleep in a garage does not mke you a car.

nannymcphee:
herein lies the problem with this prosperity message!! What is wrong with being a TAXI DRIVER?

If all taxi driver's in the world is won over to Christ, who then will drive taxi's? Without them how can people move around

I guess you're in Nigeria that's why you said this! Do you know how much those folks make in a day? But in your thinking, they don't drive big cars & own houses etc they are not wealthy!!!

God can prosper a taxi driver in the taxi business

Paul in the bible was a tent maker!! Your Jesus was a Carpenter


this is the problem with the prosperity message teaching that all Christians must/should/ought to be rich

The key word is contentment, there are people who will never have their own house all their lifetime but will be happy & prosperous paying rent (be it face me I face you, be it bungalow or duplex)

so in ur world, a true Christian cannot remain a maid, cleaner, gateman, cook etc because Jesus will elevate them.

let's do a little Mathis

a taxi driver that earns N3000/day(they earn more than this) this amounts to N90,000/month

There are graduates that teach in schools, even engineers that earn btw 10,000-45,000

Who is more prosperous ? I guess you'll say they both need Jesus

the above category of folks can only pray to God to uplift their status/bless the work of their hands & God in his sovereignty will determine how & if he answers them

Heheh, nice move ma'am. He never said there was something wrong in taxi driving, neither did he say they are poor folks, but out of some sheer desperation to cling to something in a thread as this, you made the above detour.

We're taught in church that any service to humanity is honorable, be it shoe shining (oya nail me for presumably calling them poor), or any menial job, for we work to earn a giving, not a living. Our prosperity is not by our jobs or family, but of the Lord. Isaac was a well digger, he prospered not from the business, Jesus was a carpenter, he prospered not from it...in fact all other disciples left their jobs and followed Jesus, yet they never lacked. Luke was a physician, Matthew an accountant, some fisher men etc
Paul a tent maker, DID NOT prosper from the business...he did it to earn a giving, go study. So save your math, and quit twisting what mba wrote. Thank you.

See you forming peity, why didn't you take up taxi driving as a career then since they make 90k a month?

vooks:
Gombs,
If Timothy's ailments affected everyone, was it not out of place addressing him alone?
What about Trophimus?

2 Tim 4:20 (KJV)
Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.

Good question bro! Miletum is not in Ephesus, remember, I said it was a coastal town that had water issues. Now, two perspective

1. This Trophimus and Tychicus, we know from the book of the Acts, sailed away with him from Judea, and were everywhere his companions, perhaps as being more zealous than the rest.

"Trophimus I have left at Miletum sick." Why then didst Paul not heal him, instead of leaving him? Seems like a logical question, right? The Apostles could not do everything, or they did not dispense miraculous gifts upon all occasions, lest more should be ascribed to them than was right. The same thing is observable of those blessed and righteous men, who were before them, as in the case of Moses, whose voice was weak. Why was not this defect removed? Nay, he was often afflicted with grief and dejection, and he was not admitted into the Land of Promise.

2. Miletus was near Ephesus. So it is pertinent to note that this was not Ephesus, but, Did this happen then when Paul sailed to Judea, or upon some other occasion? For after he had been in Rome, he returned to Spain, but whether he came thence again into these parts, we know not. We see him however deserted by all. "For Demas," he says, "hath forsaken me. Crescens is departed into Galatia, Titus to Dalmatia. Erastus abode at Corinth. Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick."

So obviously, the church in Ephesus had this water challenge, their MOG addressed it, the church marched on...simple! It was not out of place for him (Paul) addressing the Head Pastor of the Church in Ephesus

Oyinprince:
I just noticed Nigeria's copy is different from the World wide copy

Exactly bro!

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the above is chapter what? verse what?

from apt study... try googling it na...stop making yourself look bad in bible knowledge light.

Q1. If Jesus had drank that water in Ephesus, would he have been affected

if Jesus knowing ate a poisoned food, would he have died of it?

Q2.show me where this same instruction was passed to the church or Christians in Ephesus at that time

If Paul wrote to the Pastor of Ephesus, he has written to all the brethren in Ephesus. For example, if Pastor Chris writes my pastor on what should be done about ebola, Pastor Chris has surely writteno all the brethren under the churches my Pastor is pastoring.
#CommonSense

so the MOG can get ill? With all the divine health he had from God or his faith wasn't enough

ever read about Elisha? He got sick and died, with all his annointing, and parting of river jordan etc...do you know why? Ma'am, go and study o!

As for the rest comment, I give up

wise choice

I believe that God can prosper a Christian

but wealth was not promised in the NT, right? ok ma'am

I believe God can give wealth to a Christian

but James and Paul were broke guys shey? #Classic

The above lies in his sovereignty & he determines the extent, he knows what you can handle but to teach that the death of Jesus has brought us wealth & it's the Christian faith that will determine his level of wealth is wrong

Without faith, you can receive nothing from God... My ancestors were rich (Abraham, David, etc)....why wouuld a new covenant not be better than theirs?

Even the the Jews that were given wealth still had the poor in their midst, even the rich ones, weren't at the same level

Poor Christians today are not of a result of lack of money, but lack of knowledge. Simple. That's why we preach and teach ma'am.

its God that determines what you get & it is not your right because Jesus died for you

oh, it's my right, for i am a joint heir with Christ...ALL (not some) HE has are mine, not by my deeds but by my accepting Him as Lord and Saviour, i immediately became Abraham's seed and heir according to the promise.

Those my dear are my rights...that's why the bible is my constitution.

mbaemeka:
This would have made sense if a man who used to sleep under bridges in Lagos didn't recently sign a multi-billion dollar deal with the Oman government few years after putting the word of God to work and discovering his inheritance in Christ.

A true fiasco in Christianity (if ever there was one) will be those who compare the word of God with the experiences of unbelievers and then strike out bible truths based on such notions. "If Bill Gates is an agnostic but he is the richest man in the world then it therefore means that being Christian or not does not guarantee one wealth" some may say, but if we take it back even to bible days we can tell that many evil kings, Abimelechs and Pharaohs were all wealthy even as people like Abraham and Isaac were- and at least I am sure you would not be foolhardy enough to claim it wasn't God that prospered the latter 2 names I mentioned.

Spot on bro! You just have a way of bringing these things out...the way couldn't. Folks sha

mbaemeka:
Good bro. The work has been hectic off late sha but we are on top of the situation. Hows your own end?

Fine o, working and at same time eyeing IPPC to ensure them no clash.. it's a bit tougher this year o, my zone was only given 150 slots for partners, 65 slots from my church (Zonal HQ)... delegates them done plenty o... The church is marching on, getting bigger..Make we do build something like Maracana Stadium for conferences and crusades.

mbaemeka:
When Paul made his statement to the Corinthians about Christ being poor for their sakes so that they would be made rich, did he not know about the Macedonians and how "deeply" poor they were?

Notice: I ignored the nit-wittedness you tried to introduce by injecting 'giving' into my post. If you are looking for verses concerning Homologia in the NT you may ask politely and I would oblige you.

Overflowing Of Grace · Thursday, October 16th

Pastor Chris

For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:17).

Some people quote Romans 5:17 and say, "they which receive the abundance of grace." A few Bible translations render it that way too; they introduce the definite article "the" into it, and it’s not supposed to be so. The correct rendering is, "…they which receive abundance of grace…." There’s a difference between the two.

abundance of grace," it refers to an overflowing thereof. It’s up to you how much grace you want to take. That’s why it doesn’t say, "the abundance of grace." Some have taken more grace than others, and as the Bible says, "…he giveth more grace…" (James 4:6). God’s responsibility is to distribute more grace, while ours is to take a hold of it!

The next part of the opening verse says, "…and the gift of righteousness…." The definite article is used because it’s the same gift of righteousness for everyone. We all received the same gift of righteousness, and no one is more righteous than the other: "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference" (Romans 3:22).

Accordingly, they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign as kings in life! How will you know they’re reigning? You’ll hear them declare words of power! "Where the word of a king is, there is power…" (Ecclesiastes 8:4). If they felt pain in their bodies, instead of crying, they’d declare, "Get out in the Name of Jesus!" They rule over pain, disease, infirmity, demons and circumstances. Halleluiah!

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the much grace I’ve received and the gift of righteousness. I relish this supernatural grace that you’ve lavishly bestowed upon me to excel, prosper, succeed, and make progress. Therefore, your divine blessings and promotions are evident in my life, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Ephesians 4:7; But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

2 timothy 2:1 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

1 year Bible reading plan: 2 Thessalonians 1:1-12 Isaiah 64-66
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 7:11-28 Ezekiel 12-13

TheShopKeeper:
An article copied from Kenneth Copeland. A twice divorced, WOF, prosperity preacher. It glaringly obvious where you got your knowledge about prosperity gospel from.

don't attack the messenger...did you get the message? The pharisees attacked Jesus, they didn't get the message.

Did Jesus Christ in any of his sermon of the mount - Matthew chapters 5-7, taught about prosperity gospel?

no such thing as prosperity gospel.. the gospel is a complete package... Jesus said he was sent to give good news to the poor.. my friend what is good news to any poor person? ... you can't answer this one shey?

Did any of the disciples and Paul taught about prosperity gospel giving?

Yes they did

Did any of the early christians Acts chapters 1-7, lived their lives according to any prosperity gospel giving they have heard?

Beni sir

Jesus Christ taught that serving God & money don't mix together.

lies... can one preach the gospel without money? Those who brought us the gospel... google it, they spent a hell lotta cash.

Apostle Paul taught about contentment & godliness been a great gain.

Was he broke? Was any of the apostle a broke man? Scriptures please.

Sir, there is no doubt that money is very essential to everyone. But the teaching, preaching & love of money is dangerous for our spiritual development.

exactly...Love of money is dangerous, not money itself

mbaemeka:
If the love of money is the root of all evil then the lack of it is even worse.

What seems to confuse God's children is the fact that they see "sinners" wealthy, while some of them wallow in poverty. So they wonder if God's promise of Material prosperity is not true or has ceased to exist.

The bible says there is profit in all labor. Which means that if an atheists works hard to get wealth (albeit away from God's provision) he/she will still find some success. The caveat there is that it will only be for a time. David said "I saw the wicked (the Ungodly) rise like a green bay tree but then after a while I looked and he was cut down".

The Christian is not the one trying to get rich for he has been reborn into riches. What we are told to do from scriptures is to discover our inheritance. That's why when people hear some christians say "I am rich" they want to check his bank account to see if he has more money than Bill Gates for him to aver such but that is not the law of faith. Faith speaks in agreement with God. If God says Abrahams blessings are yours (and we know the Abrahamic blessings included wealth) I can in the same token say I am wealthy. Regardless of if I am a taxi driver. In fact, being a taxi driver will only be for a while because as one walks in the law of faith, your life experiences begin to measure up with your confessions.

If Bill Gates has a foster child somewhere that we are oblivious of but this child grows up in penury does he stop being wealthy (if a tangible portion of Bills wealth is willed to him even without his knowledge?). That's the same way with all Christians. Many just don't know this truth and so they find themselves chasing after things that God already said would follow his kids- the same things that unbelievers chase after. And when they don't see the same 'instant' results they conclude that God's word didn't say so even in the face of barefaced scriptures.

meeeeehn!... Thanks for this! Remember we are not here to convince Nannymcphee, but lay facts side by side. How have you been na?

nannymcphee:
Be in health, yet Timothy had stomach issues!!

ma'am... a little study wont kill you. Ephesus was a town by the sea port, and at that time, they had water issues due to sanitary wahala. The MOG kept getting ill from the water, Paul simply told him to take wine instead, and stop getting ill. this episode in no way means God could not protect the MOG.

yes it's a good prayer but its God that will determine the extent to which you prosper in every facet of your endeavor

Since the death of Jesus with all the prosperity you keeping saying he has given to Christians, one would have thought that by now, the world's richest would be Christians

I am ashamed of your testimony.

later you'd sing "Abraham's blessings are mine"

The world would have setup schools/studies to look into the wealth of Christians but the reverse is the case.

in your case... i can understand, yet you cannot understand how MOG are rich, you sorely concluded it's tithing and collections. Shame!

One would have thought by now, since there is much poverty in the world people would have been turning to Jesus for prosperity

i can understand your mindset at this point.... atheism aint far off though

My bro, Jesus came to give us eternal life!!! c'est fini

you have no idea what He brought us.

This is generic & not Solely tied to prosperity, we cannot conclude based on this that this is the premise on which the Christian has been great wealth

at least you implied it could be based on it..

"All things, at all times and having all that you need"

How many times have u experienced this in your life, even Paul said he was content to be with & without (those days he was without, what happened-he didn't have faith?)

so Paul lied or he assumed?

This also is generic & applies to every facet in life, even amongst unbelievers

so this also does not show how God gave the NT Christian wealth

very convenient, huh?

Nobody is disputing that it is more blessed to give than to receive but how does this verse show that the NT Christian has been given wealth or prosperity?

yet you pray for wealth and ask God to make your way prosperous...why ask Him for what He didnt want you to have in the first place?

Pls I need more, show me where he told christians to sow/connect upon the anointing on his life so that they can have more

quit this your antic..you said he didnt teach giving, i provided verses, now you asking another totally different thing. No, i will not provide any further.

Also show me where he told them to give so that they will no longer have to be poor

see you trying to be side step in a discussion you know you've faulted alot.

Romans 12:8
…Or he who exhorts, in his exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Again, this talks about giving but doesn't show how it meant that wealth has been given to the Christian

Dear Lord Jesus!

The bible didn't call them crazy givers , neither was it stated that they gave massively

believe what you may...they gave, and gave like mad! And about the "crazy" givings, if you read properly, you'd see i wrote "i noticed" not "the bible said"

they were only compared to other churches and besides Paul told them that God will supply them all their needs(not wants, check the meaning of needs)

They were only compared? HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA... needs is far important than wants na...money is a need, a necessity, abi na lie? The gospel aint gonna move no where without cash...I wont be here preaching if not for cash

he didn't tell them that they will become billionaires or become rich but that the thing they need for daily survival will be given to them

like cash abi?
or is cash not needed for daily survival?

Show me another scripture pls

no need!

Not what James meant!! List names

In the OT, I can list abraham, issac, joseph, David, Solomon, job etc men whose records showed that their wealth was gotten from God

kindly list names for me in the NT? the James you quoted was he rich? Does good & perfect gift now translate to wealth & prosperity

Jesu mi o! in the NT, the bible declares that if you are in Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, hence heir according to the promise. Why do you still need me to name names? Abraham's blessings (including riches) are mine today... if you like agree, if you like don't.


So, in the NT wealth is not from God? James must have been drunk when he was writing... i Know the good life is a goood thing, God therefore gives good life...but anyways, i hope you don't plan on living a rich life...if you are, shame on your hypocrisy then

the NT teaches giving & that it is indeed a blessing to give but it is to meet a need be it ministry need or poor or the minister

BUT it doesn't teach giving to get, it doesn't emphasize on giving to get rich

I'm in no way saying I can't pray to God to bless the work of my hands or to prosper me, it is his sovereignty to answer me

see sense na... you dont believe He wants us rich in the NT, yet you want to pray so that His sovereignty would prevail? abeg, save your theory for the gods.

but to now teach that it is God will or design that ALL Christians MUST/SHOULD/OUGHT TO be rich is not consistent with the scriptures

Jesus died to raise poor folks then!

show me where the poor in the NT was admonish to give their way into prosperity

I gave you the book of Acts...yet, you wan show sense...oya na, languish in wants, my Jesus never lacked or was in want...i'm not about to be different.

Show me where the poor was told that poverty was a bad thing

Poverty is not of God o!...
if it is not a bad thing, i wish you the best forms of it. Amen

What you have is the Christian that has being taught to give to the one that doesn't have

It was said that St Francis of Asisi, paid a visit to Rome & the pope took him round & showed him the opulence of the Vatican City.

The pope was quoted to have said "we no longer say silver & gold have we none" to which St Francis replied "neither do you say rise up & walk"

we are back to those era again

i could not comprehend the above.

[size=20pt]Understanding Prosperity[/size]

Throughout the Word, God plainly shows that His will is for His covenant people to have a surplus of prosperity. He promised to make Abraham rich, and the promise of Abraham is ours today (Galatians 3:13-14; Genesis 17:6). God’s will is prosperity for you—spirit, soul and body.

We want to share with you what true Bible prosperity is and how to apply it to your own life. We encourage you to look up each of the following scriptures as a basis for your own study.

What Is Prosperity?
Matthew 6:33; James 2:14-17; John 14:21; II Corinthians 9:9

True prosperity is the ability to use God’s ability and power to meet the needs of mankind—regardless of what those needs may be.

Spiritual Prosperity
Romans 8:2; Luke 4:18, 6:27-38

Spiritual prosperity is freedom from the law of sin and death. To be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit puts you in the position to receive from God all the things promised in His word.

Mental Prosperity
II Corinthians 10:5; III John 1; Philippians 4:7; I Thessalonians 5:14

To prosper mentally (in your soul), you must be able to control your mind, your will and your emotions. Prosperity of the mind comes when you use the knowledge you have accumulated from the Word of God—when you are controlling your mind, instead of allowing your mind to control you.

Physical Prosperity
I Peter 2:24; Mark 16:15-20; Luke 6:38; II Corinthians 9:8

Physical prosperity is twofold—health and wealth. Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law—sickness, poverty and death (Deuteronomy 28:15-61). Health and wealth belong to the believer. Meditation on the Word and acting on the Word will bring results (Joshua 1:. When you act on the Word, mix your faith with it and do not doubt in your heart, the Word will work for you.

What produces spiritual, mental and physical prosperity? What brings all these areas together? The Word of God.

Hebrews 4:12 says the Word is alive, powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword. It divides the soul and the spirit, the joints and the marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. When you are walking in the Word of God, you will prosper and be in health.

We cannot settle for prosperity in the physical or mental realm only, just as we cannot settle for spiritual prosperity alone. We can’t afford to be lazy and to discount physical and mental prosperity simply because we are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. It is God’s will for us to be made whole—spirit, soul and body—and to be kept that way until the return of our Lord Jesus Christ (I Thessalonians 5:23).

As you walk in the light of God’s Word, you will become prosperous in every area of your life.

http://www.kcm.org/real-help/article/understanding-prosperity


work calls... i believe i've dealt with the problem 'Prosperity', if anyone has an objction, please post them here. I'd Be back. Again, nannymcphee, thanks or availing me the opportunity to teach others. God bless you.

nannymcphee:
@Gombs
Hello sire!

it's only 2corinthian8:9, that you can point out for the NT support for prosperity

Morning Ma'am. If you really read my post, you'd fetch other scriptures about prosperity in the NT. BBut, for records sake, I'd give you more

3 John 1:2: "Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in ALL (not some) things and be in health, just as your soul prospers."

Eph 3:20: "Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than ALL (not somethings) we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us,"

2 Cor 9:8: "And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in ALL (not some) things at ALL (not some)times, having ALL (not somethings) that you need, you will abound in every good work."

2 Cor 9:6: "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."


Acts 20:35
In everything I showed you that by working hard in this manner you must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He Himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.'

should i go on?

I ask again show me where prosperity was promised for the NT believer apart from 2corithians8:9(which by btw isn't about physical riches or wealth)

i just showed you above ma'am. It's good to see you shift stand now from

Paul never taught the gentile world about earthly riches or tithe,

to "apart from 2 Corinth 8:9"....

Romans15:26
26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem

why did Paul not teach these poor saints to give sacrificially or to connect to the grace/anointing upon his life so that they can experience the "prosperity that God has given to them"

oh he did! He taught that giving is the ONLY way of receiving from God...You want proof? You know he'd have to support them, while teaching them on the principles of receiving. let me just quote only one...holla if you need more

Romans 12:8
…Or he who exhorts, in his exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Pls also show me individuals(notice the 's') in the NT testament that gave massively

i love this question. When studying on the churches Paul Pastored, i noticed the Philippian church were crazy givers..they gave massively

Philippians 4:15-17
And you yourselves also know, Philippians, that at the first preaching of the gospel, after I departed from Macedonia, no church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving but you alone; for even in Thessalonica you send a gift [size=20pt]more than once [/size] for my needs. Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account.

yes, i saw the plural...they whole church gave massively... holla if you need another scripture

Also show me individuals who attributed his wealth source to the death of Jesus or to God(the OT is replete with examples)

na wa o
na devil give them before? What did you think James meant when he said ALL (not some) good and perfect gifts are from God? sha, refer to the verse in the book of acts i quoted.

In the first few paragraph of your response to my post, you talked about how the NT was better than the OT, but you couldn't list several bible verse to show how wealth was given to the Christian

really? wealth wasn't? please provide scriptures

let me ask you, which has more blessing giving to the pastor, giving to the church(ministry needs) & to the poor?

giving generally is a blessing... simple. tithing is a form of giving too... seeds.. alms etc

Becos some Christians will say some grounds are more fertile than others!!

relate to Judas thought of selling a perfume and Jesus' answer...was Jesus mean to the poor?[/quote]

The Dimensions Of Love · Wednesday, October 15th

Pastor Chris

That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God (Ephesians 3:17-19).

Our opening verses show us four dimensions of God’s love: the breadth, length, depth, and height of His love. How far can your love go? Can it pursue the worst of sinners? Can it go after the worst failures? Can it be stretched limitlessly?

Once, Peter asked Jesus, "...Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?" The Master’s response was so inspiring; He said, "…I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:22). This equals four hundred and ninety times a day. Imagine that someone offends you that number of times in one day, the Master says, "Forgive."

The Apostle Paul gave a touching testimony in 1 Timothy 1:13-14. He said, I was a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious, but I obtained mercy of the Lord. His love reached out to me and rescued me from the path of destruction. How far can your love go? How much can you forgive?

Love never gives up. It’s not easily provoked, neither does it take into account the offences of others. It forgives as many times as it’s provoked. It knows no limits. No wonder Paul had to pray that God’s people would comprehend the boundless, immeasurable, intimately infinite and unconditional love of God. That revelation will change you forever, and give you extraordinary boldness and confidence in life.

Confession...
Christ dwells in my heart by faith; I’m rooted and grounded in love, and able to comprehend the boundless, immeasurable, intimately i n f i n i t e , and unconditional love of God. Thus, I’m filled with all the fulness of God, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
1 Corinthians 13:1-13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

1 year Bible reading plan: 1 Thessalonians 5:1-28 Isaiah 61-63
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 7:1-10 Ezekiel 10-11

itstpia1:
Since it pertains to the matter at hand

Nice concept... #GiveChristiansTheirSection

nannymcphee:
Mark 10:17-22

17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.

Hello ma'am!

the verses you quoted has to be studied in the context it was used in & not just lifted to buttress prosperity in the present day

God directly & explicitly promised & gave wealth/riches to the Jews in the OT BUT we find no such [size=20pt]direct [/size]promises to the present day Christian

if He did that for those who did not have the Holy Spirit in them, how much more those who have? i thought the NT was far better that the OT? no?

is see what you did there in the above enlarged. it was a strategy, a clever one i must confess, you used to sit on the fence. Shol i take away the word 'direct'?

The OT is filled with examples of people who were mega rich but how many of such examples can you find in the NT(that has better promises)

in other words, the NT is not in support of riches? Did Jesus die to raise paupers? if the NT is of better promises, it means what the OT folks enjoyed was kindergarten level compared to what we now have in Christ.

Paul talked about the Macedonian church & those at Philippians who gave out of their needs/poverty, he never stated that they will become rich as a result of their giving neither did Paul ever talked down on the saints that were poor(he never stated that they were poor by choice or that they were mocking Christianity)

Jesus spoke on the principle of giving and receiving, ma'am, the only principle of receiving in the bible is giving. Check all those who were celebrated in the bible...they gave...some massively eg David, Abraham, Paul etc

The gentile world knew nothing about Jesus, the gospel was introduced to them by Paul(Paul knew the in & out of the law & the Jewish custom)

false... the jews in the Jerusalem church already started the gentile church before Paul was sent there to Pastor them...i know you meant Paul was specifically sent to the Gentiles by Christ Himself, but my dear, he wasn't the one who introduced the gospel to them, though he planted many churches amongst the gentiles.

Paul never taught the gentile world about earthly riches or tithe,

really?
can you explain 2 Corinthians 8:9 please?
Paul had used the Macedonians' example of generosity to provoke the Corinthians in their giving. Here, he turned to the supreme example of giving; that is, Christ Himself.

God didn't just give us something that He had; He gave Himself. What was God's motive for giving? It wasn't because of His need, but ours. He was motivated out of love for us (Joh 3:16). In the same way, Paul was encouraging these Corinthians to give unselfishly to the poor saints in Jerusalem. That's why God wants us rich...so that we can give!

Q1. how could he have missed such?

all the admonition about riches & wealth in the NT, we are told to be careful about riches, no where do we find Christians being admonish to go For wealth

you don't have a bible ni?
in 2Co 8:9: Jesus did have money. He even designated one of His disciples to be the treasurer (Joh 13:29). However, Jesus was poor compared to what He had before coming to earth. He was also poor in the same way that Paul was poor at times; i.e., He voluntarily did without things in order to reach others. He said, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head" (Mt 8:20). That line does in no way mean Jesus was homeless, does it?

Again, 2Co 8:9: Some people have tried to spiritualize this verse to apply only to spiritual or emotional poverty and wealth, but the context of this verse is definitely speaking about physical poverty and wealth; that is, money (see 2Co 8:1).

It is a true statement that Jesus made Himself poor spiritually and emotionally so that we could become wealthy in those areas. However, it is also a true statement that Jesus became poor monetarily for us so that we could become wealthy in finances. That's what this verse is saying.

The Greek word that was used in the first part of this verse to describe Jesus as being rich is "PLOUSIOS," and it means "wealthy; figuratively, abounding with" (Strong's Concordance). This is the same word that was translated "rich" in Mr 12:41, which says, "And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much" (emphasis mine).

The Greek word that was translated "rich" in the last part of this verse, describing us, is "PLOUTEO," and it means "to be (or become) wealthy (literally or figuratively)" (Strong's Concordance). This is the same word that was translated "rich" in 1Ti 6:9, which says, "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition" (emphasis mine).

So, both Greek words used for "rich" in this verse are speaking of material wealth. This is further proof that this verse is teaching that our Lord Jesus provided prosperity for us in His atonement (Acts 2:21). Jesus wills for us, His children, to have our needs met abundantly (3John 2).

Q2. Why didn't Jesus ask the rich man in the above verse, to be his partner in ministry, to be his financier??

Jesus had partners, you want proof where folks gave to support His ministry?

Rather he asked him to go sell all wealth & give to the poor

if that was what Jesus meant, why haven't you?

( by the way some present day Christians now say that: giving to the poor is just lending to God,

that verse means, God will pay for the one who couldn't pay back, not that the borrower is lending to God.

that God will pay back but without interest

Does the above make sense to you?

i.e its more profitable to give to ministers/church than the poor)

you are funny ma'am... thanks for the laugh

Note: the rich man had kept the law since the days of his youth yet Jesus asked him to forgo all

ma'am, what Jesus wanted to point out is that, the man, though he SAID he has done all those, yet he had not faith that what he will lose or lost will be replenished by God. The rich man still have value of money over God. Jesus was in no way encouraging poverty, for Jesus himself was NOT a broke guy when he walked the streets of Galilee... He had everything He needed, and was NEVER IN LACK. Ever wondered why the roman centurions (centurions were not broke guys o) cast lots on who'd own the clothes Jesus wore? You think those clothes He wore were rags, yet rich centurions cast lots for them?

[size=20pt]Note[/size]
The Scriptures warn us against the pitfalls of riches (1Ti 6:9 and Pr 13:11), yet it is the love of money that is the root of all evil (1Ti 6:10), not money itself.

Before we can be the blessing to others that God intended us to be, we have to be blessed ourselves (Ge 12:2). Prosperity is not just for ourselves (Jas 4:3); it's so that we "may abound to every good work" (2Co 9:8 ). God gives seed to the sower (2Co 9:10); i.e., He provides riches to those of us who will let them flow to others and not hoard them for ourselves.

thank you so much for letting me teach others who will grace this thread. God bless you

Honour And Greatness Are From The Lord ·

Pastor Chris

Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all (1 Chronicles 29:12).

David made the statement in our opening verse in the final days of his life, when he was old. He was talking to God in prayer and said, "O God, both riches and honour come from you…." We observe from this prayer where riches and honour come from; they come from God.

David was a man of honour. Samuel the prophet had anointed him, and he knew he was going to be king of Israel. He began to learn about the anointing of God’s Spirit, and about the king’s office. He studied these things and showed himself approved to God on many occasions when he was tested (2 Timothy 2:15).

One of such occasions was when King Saul tried to kill him and went after him with three thousand soldiers. The opportunity came for David to attack Saul, but he wouldn’t, because he knew if He did, he wouldn’t only be dishonouring Saul, but the anointing as well, for Saul was anointed of God. Even when he cut just a little piece of King Saul’s garment to prove to him that he got close enough to have harmed him, he repented and asked God to forgive him (1 Samuel 24:5). Here was a man who was hunting him and wanted him dead, yet David chose to honour him because he was a man of honour and he knew where honour came from. He knew the king couldn’t make him great; only God could.

In Psalms 75:6-7, David also said, "For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. But God is the judge…." No man, job, or natural opportunity can make you great; it’s in the hand of God alone to make great. You’re a man or woman of honour. Therefore, learn to walk in honour, because you were born into it. It’s your life; it’s where you live, and it’s what you must give.

Confession...
Dear Lord, I’m grateful for the destiny of greatness I have in you. I was born into greatness and honour, and I give honour to others, recognizing that they’re the objects of your love. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 3:16; Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

Psalms 71:21 Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.

1 year Bible reading plan: 1 Thessalonians 4:1-18 Isaiah 59-60
2 year Bible reading plan: Hebrews 6:11-20 Ezekiel 8-9