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OLAADEGBU:
Jesus defeated the devil on the cross not in hell. Don't believe the heresy that your church teaches that the devil tormented Jesus in hell before the Father rescued Him.

He stripped all the spiritual tyrants in the universe of their sham authority at the Cross and marched them naked through the streets. Colosians 2 from verse 14.

you mean these happened on the cross?

the devil did not torment Jesus and God hence rescued him. That is fat lie, but Jesus went down there as a man, defeated the devil as a man, and freed em saints. If Jesus really defeated the devil on the cross, what part exactly? when he said it is finished or when He died, or when he was brought down.

but, if He was made sin, and the Father seperated from Him, when He died, where did He go to? Was He in the middle or Heaven or Hades where saints were?

The moment our sins was placed on Him at the cross and He shed His precious blood the price for our sins was paid. Jesus had the Power to lay down His life and at raise it up again which He did on the third day.

What part of hell was he dragged to? Hell or Hades? don't forget, both were in Hell... why are we still debating it sef?

The OT saints were saved because they believed the promise of God. They were looking forward to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ just as believers today are looking backward to the finished work on the Cross and forward for His second coming. All it takes is faith in Christ, either looking forward or backward. The OT saints were saved as a result of their faith just as a person taking an I.O.U. (I Owe You) in accounting terms which will be paid back when the money arrives. Their price was paid when Jesus died on the Cross shedding His blood and went to Abraham's bosom to declare the victory and took them up to paradise just as Had promised the thief on the Cross.

"Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fill all things)" (Ephesians 4:8-10).

Ola, was He in Hades where sinless folks were? If Yes, Why?

baloney!

OLAADEGBU:
Done. Next question? Good afternoon.

i already did. Scroll up

pickabeau1:
ch7...it seems you persist in annotating the book and calling out people (frosbel etc)

anyhow u want it

SO THE QUESTION IS

So which major pentecostal movement in nigeria does not use the highlighted

No name calling here, i won't partake of that stunt. How many ministries did Hagin call out? You thought he was blind or deaf?

BabaGnoni:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgS2uDMEF4
pickabeau1, this one is for you bro.
Enjoy watching Leroy Thompson and Creflo Dollar or throw up
- Now you know why he couldn't muster strength to turn up at Hagin's called meeting

leave the man alone! besides, i see nothing wrong in this video. Just that someone wanted us to see what he wanted us to. He shhold have given s the whole message, not that clip.

Lobeez:
Had to share this piece I came across years back from the king of wealth transfer himself Dr Leroy Thompson
This guy is way off the hook with prosperity pimping.
Was in a CE church in Lagos sometime ago and the pastor demonstrated the "MONEY COMETH" ritual which Leroy Thompson invented

Happy Viewing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2q_BzNHl4

had to put an earpiece on...didn't believe my ear, but then again, some one wanted us to see and hear what they wanted us to see and hear... but this thread is not to nail any preacher, it is about the book. Please. Hagin nailed no on enor mentioned any church.

Thanks

nannymcphee:
Try pasting it into Microsoft word first, highlight maybe 6-10 lines per time

That's how I did mine, there was no repition

Though it wasn't a smooth process, it kinda of lags

Thanks... i have it converted to .doc already.

nora544:
I wanted to post about the history of MIDAS TOUCH , that is comes from greece.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midas

Spare us the gist, it is in the book...go buy it and read. You love wikipedia a whole lot more than your bible.

Chapter 7 is up! Pheeeew!

brocab:
The tithe was set up in the old testament. Bring your food into the storehouse so the priesthood and the the poor can be fed. These day's the tithing messages had changed, now they are taking the tithe from all walks of life such as the needy and the poor. Tithing was never monies, 1 Timothy 6-5 tells us clearly priest-pastors men of corrupt minds who suppose that godliness is the means of gain. From such withdraw yourselves. When did we hear of Jesus catching a plane, or should I say buying one.

I must say your post is idiotic. No offense intended please.

Don’t derail, this is not a tithe discussion thread. If Jesus had access to flights during his time, or if he were around today, he'd have trekked with a donkey from Nazareth to Jerusalem, then down to Judea, Samaria etc. Go get a world map and check the distances. He'd have used a donkey or ship, shey?

See you all in 3hrs time. Chapter 7 in the pipeline

Candour:
]In other words you believe Gates, Zuckerberg, Seun etc will lose their wealth to you and others? Then why are you denying? Do you not understand what End time transfer of wealth means?

Must God make Gates, Zuckerberg, Seun etc bankrupt, fail etc before he can provide for Christians? Must you eye and covet the riches of those hardworking people? So because you'll be here in 50 years if Jesus tarries, they must become poor for you to get riches?

Candour na,
The Bible does teach that when the Church returns with Jesus after the Tribulation and He sets up His Millennial Kingdom on earth, we will be inheriting all of the wealth of the sinners at that time. Where is bankruptcy here? Why would God want to bankrupt folks to get Christians rich?

You can conjure up theories you think I meant, especially the above bold and colored, even suggesting I eye and covet the riches of others is nauseating and slanderous.

Until you can show where I've argued against giving to the body of Christ, the above quote remains immaterial to me.

All tithe threads...you stance there does not putting givings in churches in good light especially calling of ministers and ministries names. But these are immaterial now, I don't wan to derail further. Thanks

You know my position on tithing and I expect you to know my position on christian giving. You emphasise this quote to make it look like the organised church lack funds as it is and I asked how lacking in funds is a ministry whose G.O personally cruises 4 private jets. Lack of tithe and offerings isn't the problem of the church; stealing, misappropriation, misplaced priorities etc are .

So what did you do about it on nairaland? You created an impression all mega churches are fraudulent., if that's not the case, then fine. I'm glad you said you've learnt too from the book.

Would you give money to a beggar rocking an iPhone, a Gucci shoe, an Armani jeans and shirt in a range sport? That's how those flamboyant ministers who constantly whine about needing funds look.

Which beggar has those? Are you calling your former GO a beggar? Or are you calling mega churches? Who exactly is the word 'beggar' conoting?

Pls quote where I said people shouldn't give

They should not tithe, no?

If by any means I seemingly supported End time transfer of wealth (a fact I know I didn't pray for some non christian guys to go broke for my sake), or crested the impression, I hereby tender my apology.

Candour:
Actually, you were very sure their wealth was coming to you today and today means the present. You even acknowledge this idea came from mainly one scripture. Once again see your own words

How is that End time transfer of wealth? When you for want? Christians of the future? If Jesus tarries, I'd still be walking this earth in 50years time.

Folks can go ahead and read our exchanges on that thread. Thank God you didn't accuse me of remixing what you said. I only quoted the one pertaining to the subject matter. We were talking about so many things there. I put the link to the thread up. Folks are free to read it up themselves.

Yeah, thanks

Good for you that you're standing by those words and the words are there for whoever is interested. If you don't support that fraudulent doctrine, then I'm glad.

Thanks

Of course I saw the quote. Hagin should know (I'm sure he knew but didn't want to ruffle too many feathers) lack of funds isn't the problem of most of our big churches because folks are pressured to even give what they are not supposed to give as he admitted; lack of prudence and accountability is. Oyedepo my former G.O owns 4 private jets. Tell me here that you believe he truly needs them all. Do you have any idea of the cost of purchase and maintenance?

You did not attempt the sentence Hagin putdown, maybe I should paste it again

If all Christians would simply tithe and give offerings, the Church would have more than enough funds to accomplish whatever it needs to do. 

Where do you think churches should get funding from, and how?
Lack of prudence and accountability is NOT a viable reason not to give or encourage others not to.

nannymcphee:
@Gombs, thanks for your response, in due time I'll respond your your reply. let me allow you continue or should I create another thread for that?

This is a faceless forum, I just want to know how old are you(?no offense intended)

Ma'am, I'm not offended, but to what good do you need my age for?

nannymcphee:
Aren't you using a PC, why the typing? just copy & paste, it's easier that way

If you copy from the pdf, and paste, it repeats itself ie 1 line repeats itself for like a thousand times. The pdf is signature protected. Besides, I have to highlight, so, no qulams for me.

I used a pdf to word converter sha, and yeah, I'm using my pc not the tab or phone.

Alright fellas, chapter 7 in the pioe line.

*Starts typing in earnest!

shdemidemi:
This thread should and must be recommended specially to joagbaje and image123. How they need to see some of these things, it might just lead them to also repent.

wait for chapter 7, i hope you will repent. Jo and Image has nothing to repent from. Provide what they need repent from ( i am well sure you are against divine healing, where you've claimed it ended with the apostles, and it is only a wicked generation that needs miracle ) , if you deny it, i'd dedicate today to fishing them out). Chapter 7 was specially written for you, and i hope you will be honest enough to admit... not that i expect you to by the way.

"In All These Things…" · Wednesday, October 22nd

Pastor Chris

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us (Romans 8:35-37).

Your road to success could have trials and challenges: from inflation to economic recession, health issues, unemployment, etc. The good news, however, is that it doesn’t matter the challenges you face or the situation in your country; the Word says, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Christ. This should give you comfort, peace and joy.

Knowing we would encounter challenges in this world, the Lord Jesus assured us of victory when He said in John 16:33: "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulations: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." Distressing situations come from the enemy—the devil—but God already made you an overcomer: "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world" (1 John 4:4). You’ve been lifted over and above the depravities and corrupting influences of this world.

Recall our opening verse again; it states clearly that neither tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, unclothedness, peril, nor sword can separate us from the love of God, because in spite of them all, we are more than conquerors. Now, if this means that no matter what you face in this world, you’d conquer, that would have been wonderful. But it means much more than that. It means you’ve gone past conquering, because you conquered a long time ago—in Christ! You’re now living in the victory of Christ! That means there’s nothing to struggle with or try to overcome anymore, because you’ve already won.

Don’t allow the circumstances of life or the economic situation in your country make you a victim. You were born into the victorious life when you were born again. Therefore, say like the Apostle Paul, "None of these things move me..." (Acts 20:24).

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the victorious life that I have in Christ! The greater One lives in me; therefore, I live in triumph over circumstances, in total fulfilment, joy, glory and dominion! I reign and rule by your Word, irrespective of what I feel, see, or hear, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
James 1:2-3;
2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

Psalms 126:1-2
1 When the Lord turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.
2 Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The Lord hath done great things for them.

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 timothy 4:1-16 Jeremiah 11-12
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 11:1-16 Ezekiel 21

Candour:
The answer to the question heading of this post is no. I sure hope you agree with him and have corrected your thinking about it because see what you told me when we broached it during one of our discussions in time past.




on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/1189741/tithes-offerings/105#19933642

I'm glad Hagin mentioned this because this is the erroneous idea behind the ''dominion theology'' which is another branch of the WOF movement.

my friend, try quoting things in full context. Now note what Papa Hagin thoght:

We shouldn't be so concerned about getting sinners' money transferred into our hands. Our concern should be getting their hearts transferred into the Kingdom. We should be focused on their receiving what we have (eternal life), not on our receiving what they have (material goods).

notice i highlighted it in the book as posted on this thread. I was not concerned or waiting to receive their wealth, or praying it to come to me.

you quoted me half way, ignoring your question and the latter part of my post.

you wrote:

Gates and Zuckerberg follow the principle of hard and smart work which God promises to bless(Prov 22:29) and its irrespective of belief or lack of. You claim to follow Tithing principle so tell us why the principle followed by atheists is more efficacious than yours?

there my friend is why i told you from scriptures "they are not efficacious than anything Godly, for they will always store up for the righteous "

this is no way meaning i am praying for Dangote or Gates or etc wealth to come to me. I was not taught so. Interestingly, you for some reasons skipped the latter part of my post;

Go study about men like Coalgate, heinz, Rockefeller, the above is still working for them...their companies are over a hundred years old and the companies are still rolling.

Gates and Zukerberg and Seun won't last 50yrs....take it from me.

I stand by these words, and my post is in no way in support of End-time transfer of wealth. Meanwhile in that post you quoted form the book, why on earth did you not see this?

Our job is not to try to get the wealth of the world. Our job is to faithfully use the wealth we already have to get the Gospel out. If all Christians would simply tithe and give offerings, the Church would have more than enough funds to accomplish whatever it needs to do. Statistics indicate that twenty percent of church members provide eighty percent of church revenue and that the average American Christian gives only six percent of his income to the Lord's work. Imagine where we would be if those percentages were where they ought to be!

any comments?

pickabeau1:
Yes we do....


If I may say you have not accepted the existence of this gimmicks in the naijan church

If we dont agree there is a question how can we find d answer

Oh! I have accepted the existence of these gimmicks in Nigerian churches, even in some CEC churches.

pickabeau1:
Now I see why u r so defensive when you see comments highlighting the gimmicks being practiced by some church

Unfortunately you are an island in an ocean which is increasing in water level

I have heard of 60 fold and 100 fold
In so many churches.


It is real..you need to listen more

We sure have to pray for God's people.

mbaemeka:
Gombs,

You are being derailed. I think you should just go on with the review and entertain the derailments subsequently.

As per the Coat and Garments debacle, I think the problem is caused by the wanton urge to speed-read scriptures with the notion of looking for possible ammunition to contradict the post.

The bible and bible history clearly states that Jesus wore a gown as well as a seamless coat over it even when he was arrested. When he was to be flogged and scourged the soldiers took both of him. After they were done they put the garment that was scarlet and the crown of thorns over his head and then took him to Golgotha. Obviously, when he was placed on the cross before it was raised they took of the garment provided by Herod and divided into four portions (possibly for memorabilia) but when it came to the aspect of coat they decided to cast lots for it (because it was a costly possession), hence they didn't want it torn. That they fulfilled scriptures while at it was purely coincidental to them for they didn't even know the scriptures (they were Gentiles). Besides, they didn't say "let us fulfil scriptures by casting lots for his coat"- it was the disciples recounting the story, that told people how that even the aspect of casting lots for Jesus coat proves he was the sent one.

So Kenneth Hagin was still spot on- Jesus was not a homeless bum, Pauper or what have you that had "no where to lay his head". Jesus wasn't also flamboyant or extravagant (both 2 represent extremes). Jesus was however not POOR and those who have written articles to that effect can be humble enough to make their adjustments now.

Thanks bro, nice counsel

pickabeau1:
Gombs

I am gettin confused

You are making too many interjections into the text and i cant recognise which is the book and which is your annotation

i also observe ur side remarks to others... why

Who made the mistake of the 100 fold teaching because it felt good --- you or the author


Now as per your annotations i find it hilarious that you are find some of the practices highlighted by Hagin. Are they strange to you





Please stop annotating the book

let me know when u have chp 7

Some are strange to me....and to be honest, I haven't heard of the hundred fold increase? I'd let you know of chapter 7

Candour:
Dont worry my friend. You can go ahead with chapter 7. I won't derail you. However, see another hint that First fruits has nothing to do with money in the new covenant. It's from the same page 136 and it's even embeded in your response to me


Y
I wont be doing any injustice to the book if i break it down into 2 statements thus:

''There is not even the vaguest hint of it by any new testament writer in reference to money'' meaning first fruits has nothing to do with money

''There is not even the vaguest hint of it by any new testament writer in reference to the support of ministers'' meaning it has nothing to do with support for ministers

This is because the ''OR'' there is a conjunction that joins two statements together

Anyhow you choose to look at it, first fruits offering has no scriptural basis for a Christian

Your opinion is Noted

[quote author=nannymcphee post=27335879]@Gombs

I'm grateful to God that our nerves have come down, things are a bit calm.

I saw ur points & also the things you listed that are being practiced in CE.

remember I'm still there, I'll give my position on tithe & first fruit

but just want to ask(no offence intended)

in CE, we i think we practice

Fixed

1.giving to get

Not aware of this, not in my church nor I Pastor Chris messages, if you have any message about giving to get, let me know. However, like I said earlier, it is possible some CE churches teach that, would that mean CE as awhole practice that?

2.naming your seed

Hmm... can you give an example? Remember what Papa Hagin said some preachers preach; "When you get your offering out, give it a name. If a farmer wants to harvest corn, he plants corn. If he wants to harvest cotton, he plants cotton. So name your offering as seed for what you want to receive."

3.hundredfold return

Ha! Not in my church, nor in Pastor Chris' messages. Not in Rev Tom's messages nor Evangelist Owase or Pastor Siji's. Where is your zone again?

4.debt breaking/money multiplying anointing

Read Hagin, preachers demanded monies in this guise. I can pray for your debt to be cancelled, and the debtor just calls you and say "don't bother paying". That is a miracle. But again, my Pastor has warned, even heard Pastor Chris warn "stop borrowing monies, if you don’t have, be contented".

I don't agree with all Hagin wrote in that book & I also know u might have ur own disagreement but what's your take on these 4 points I raised above, am I wrong or I'm exaggerating?

I can't say you are wrong, it is possible it happens in your church, but generalizing it is total exaggeration. Have you ever hear pastor chris hint on the above, ever?

Do you agree with me that once there is challenge in any area of our life, the first response any CE member will give is "have u sown seeds?"

I don't, not in my church o... when you have a challenge here, we find ways of fixing it, Pastor here don't ask for your tithe records or such.

yes we pray but without the seed aspect, any leader will tell you it's not yet complete

I am a leader, and I tell my flock they are not under any compulsion to give offer 7 for example, neither are they forced tot tithe, but I give them reason why they should.

Am I correct to say that it's a shame to say you don't have in CE & that we are taught & encouraged to live a live of wealth & opulence?

IF you know how much I give out on TP during service days eh! Why were those ones not ashamed? I am not ashamed to say I don't have monies for offering atimes, and my fellow leader load me up...simple.

am I correct that there is too much emphasis on money, giving, Patnership in CE?

Na wa o... not in my church. My pastor talks more about the God-life, the supernatural, Faith, then he cast out demons like it's a hobby... we all learn from him, he hardly ever talks more on money, but when he says for example, we need buy a new generator (160kva), folks are falling on each other to buy it, not give towards it o.

What's your take on "miracle money"(lol, you know what I'm talking about), in your opinion is it biblical?

You shall decree a thing and it shall be established unto you... Job 22:28 sounds familiar? That's why it's a miracle, not money doubling.

with all the "too much money" u know na, "too much grace" how come the ministry still has needs, sometimes owe staffs salary, still have uncompleted church projects, owe for rhapsody etc

So, this means someone is lying? What's your point actually!?

Will you agree with me that the needy/poor in our midst(pls don't tell me we don't have them) are "sometimes" neglected, but there is much emphasis on inner city & regions beyond or sending bibles or relief materials to folks that are far away

Don't you have HELPS Department innyour church? Even if you don't, why do you think nwe have cells? My cell is planning on empowering the jobless folks, barbing salon, welding, etc. That is the responsibility of the cell ministry, that's why the cell is under PFCC. Check those poor and needy ones, they are 90% not in a cell, nor participate in church activities effectively

Gombs, I'll appreciate if you give answers with explanation & invite others who are in house to answer this, maybe I'm the one missing it

I havee, but you might think I'm covering up...why should I lie?

These questions are not meant to cause strife & they are strictly meant for anyone in CE on this thread, I'll appreciate if this request of mine is honored. Thanks

Me I think you should speak to your pastor o! Maybe your are there for such a time as this.

Candour:
Haba we shouldn't start again na!!

What does the below quote from page 136 mean then?




Pls, first fruits offering (in money or whatever form) as a doctrine for christians has no single basis in scriptures. We've always said it and now Hagin has confirmed it. If you still argue this, i'll be very surprised.

Making a New Testament application of Old Testament technicalities violates every principle of Bible interpretation, especially when there isn't a single New Testament usage of the word "firstfruits" in the context in which it is being preached by some ministers. The concept of firstfruits is not used in the New Testament in reference to financial giving. There is not even the vaguest hint of it by any New Testament writer in reference to money or [b]the support of ministers. 

Candour, from the above bold, understand what he meant by that first sentence, then in the context as used by the preachers he mentioned in the above part of your quote ie firstfruits are preachers monies, if he wanted to condemn it, he'd had plainly said so. But if you believe he did, fine. I don't think he did. Let's not argue please. I do not intend to derail. Chapter 7 is loading

Candour:
This is a step in the right direction. However, Its just not about extremes, its about some practices that are [size=20pt]TOTALLY ALIEN TO CHRISTIANITY[/size] being bandied about in almost all churches today which Hagin pointed out e.g First fruits which you graciously admitted CEC does.

Hagin was not against firstfruits, he was against folks ie preachers saying they are priests now and the firstfriuts belongs to them.

I'll find time to point out the others later.

alright

I too have learnt a lot and will surely be making some adjustments. even though i do not agree with Hagin on some things, i'm the better and wiser for reading this book.

same with me, just that i totally agree with Hagin

Thanks once again and also to Gombs, thanks.

Edit: Pls don't play this card
there's nothing like team mates with atheists and pagans otherwise í can also accuse you of a pact with a satanist who has been defending your course and that of Jo in the past few weeks

Huh? Satanist ke? Ok o, i won't play the card... i am glad the book came around, i too will find the book for my library.

nannymcphee:
@Gombs, as listed in chapter 6, can you kindly list the ones you have been practicing?
I recall you telling pickabeau1, that "in your church they dont boast"(i recalled this because if you could tell her you folks dont boast, you should be able to also say which one your church practices )
kindly list those that are being practiced in your church

Tithes, firstfruits, offerings, seeds (offer7, etc) partnership etc

Thanks
PS:welldone, I know it wasnt easy to post all of that, the little I did wasnt funny. the highlighting on that particular pdf file isnt smooth

Thanks, e no easy o!

On a side note, I get that churches reach far extremes in a particular thing, sometimes, the church is not at fault but a particular teacher in that ministry. Like Bidam rightly pointed out, some like my friends here (trustman, shedemidemi, Drummaboy aka WinsomeX, Kunle etc) discovered these excesses in whatever way either from concern or spite, and they too wanting to correct these excesses, took theirs to the other extreme too, they must have thought since too much of this is terrible, why not we just get rid of it altogether?

They took it to the extreme, and their communication was not from the spiritual, their weapons of warfare were carnal, I wish they were spiritual enough all these years. Hagin did all the corrections but never called anyone a thief or fraud or other insultive adjectives. Now, I am not saying I was right too, because I just thought these folks didn't like givings and are out to deter others, though alot of their team mates (atheists, pagans, etc) made them even look worse.

This created a large gulf. We who were for givings and maybe due to the fact we didn't address those who take it to the extremes, became team extreme givings, and those who took theirs to the other extreme side of the road, who seemingly would want these givings to stop entirely, hence the gulf. We then always had disagreements and animosity was created. We all got so engrossed in the disagreement, that we forgot the original motivation, which is to do good and bless folks and move the gospel. In our overzealousness, we may have lost the original truth.

I am not perfect, I may have been wrong in time past, but now, I've a balance, thanks to Papa Hagin. Even though in my church, my Pastor and Pastor Chris do not take givings to extremes, neither do they cook up gimmicks to raise funds. I had already know about cheerful giving during my NYSC, and I learnt from Pastor Chris that God is not a money doubler, you don't give because you expect, you give because you want to, and you love God ... I am aware, in some CE Churches, some pastor's take it to the extreme. But that's why we pray, right?

I must thank you for this book, you don't know how I've thanked God for the book, and prayed more for churches and ministers of the gospel. I've got a message now, the download site has increased traffic too, it has gone up more than 650, 000, but I feel bad, Hagin or his ministry deserves to benefit from the book, it's worth far more than free. I must be a partner in their ministry, I should give towards their work.

Folks, this is it... no more wars on biblical prosperity, I was never In support of extreme givings, but my not speaking out made me culpable, I have repented. God bless you all

WinsomeX:
Welcome to the politics section, Baby Gombs.

i don't intend staying. I find here really really uncomfortable.

say me hi to TeamGEJ folks ummm like rossike, chukwudi44 etc

bye!

You can keep your cover here, they may not know you are same as Drummaboy, but we in Religion section do! Opssss...I just blew it

ummm.. Kenny4lyfe has decided to donate his space... trustman and kunle can you guys do me that favor too?

lambanoPeace, how far? your space nko?

suckcybay:
Thank you Very much for the Rhapsody. Please can the Rhapsody be sent early, like from 6:30am. Thanks

yeah...check through the thread...the average time is surely before 6:30am

WinsomeX:
I too could protest the moving of this thread to the politics section because the thread clearly states "Calling Christians...", the plea is to "religious people", Christians; thus the reason the OP thought it wise to put in the religion section at first. But I will not. I respect the decision of the moderators.

I however request the same mods who moved the thread from religion to politics, should also consider it for front page as the OP is a subject of interest for many Nigerians.

cry me a river... gist with them berem and obiageli and the likes in the APC band or whatever political affiliation they are in. You are a tiring hypocrite. later you would shout CAN and politics, now you want to politicize the religion section?

sit here and call on Christians, or are there non here? if you want to protest, make sure you do that here or general section or jokes section. As for the bold... it is not a subject of interest for MANY Nigerians, but for a few, a select few actually. Thank you

by the way GEJ till 2019 AFCON. Your Buhari ruled my Dad, Me and wants to rule my Children? Tell your band of APC folks, GMB is not sellable....but i like them to field him, a fourth failure at the presidential election polls would be in the Guinness book of record to be unshattered for a long long time.

trustman:
Will he allow anyone to come to his own conclusion?
I think not. 
Remember, in his own words, He's thrilled, super excited, in epileptic laughter. 
He wants us to be brainwashed by the line of propaganda he intends to spew out.

Sir,
you want me to be mournful or in regrets ni? what line of propaganda? if you don't like the book, leave the thread. the thread is about the book, i like the book, i am happy and thrilled, does my happiness and thrill gives you seizures?