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we must respond in Diplomatic terms... if this news is true!

anyways, GEJ till 2019 AFCON. Praise the Lord

Lobeez:
I MARVEL AT YOUR IGNORANCE

BYE!

thanks for stopping by. wise man

Lobeez:
You are dumb and you know it, I didn't say they 'understood his acts', I said they could 'NOT DENY' his acts
They said he was of satan because whilst they COULD NOT DENY his miracles, they did not want to ACCEPT that it was of YAHWEH.

Oyaks has really done worse than I thought he has

they could not deny his acts but yet denied him and his message,abi?
i thought the acts were a direct result of the message,no?

wise man!

sonOfLucifer:
Hallo.

Like/believe it or not, Jesus paid for your soul FULLY!

Paste the story here...I ain't clicking on that link sha. Good morning!

Love Others As They Are · Monday, October 6th

Pastor Chris

…But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us (Romans 5:7-.

Some people believe anyone who isn’t like them has a problem; they try to "change" other people or get them to measure up to their standards. Having pastored for so many years, I’ve learnt that you really can’t "change" anybody. The best thing is to see others the way God sees them; love them the way they are.

God didn’t ask us to change so He could love us; He loved us while we were yet sinners. He didn’t wait for us to become righteous first; He loved us the way we were and sent Jesus to die in our place.

If God didn’t wait for us to "change" first, before sending Jesus to die for us, then we must emulate the same in our relationships. This doesn’t mean we don’t need to make changes in our lives or expect changes in other people. The change we all need to embrace, however, is that which helps us become even more gracious; that which helps us become more and more of what God wants us to be: the expression of His glory, righteousness, and love. You don’t need to "change" your neighbours, friends, colleagues, spouse, etc.; just love them. They are all wonderful the way they are.

Read what Paul said: "To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some" (1 Corinthians 9:22). That means he made adjustments to accommodate other people. That’s for us to emulate.

Remember, before he learnt that, he was trying to change other people. He was on his way to Damascus to "change" the Christians, when the Lord called him and gave him his divine assignment (Acts 9:3-5), to turn the Gentiles from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God. But that was for a purpose; it was so the Gentiles may receive forgiveness of sins, and an inheritance amongst them which are sanctified (Acts 26:18). It wasn’t so that He (God) could love the Gentiles more.

We can share God’s love—His Word with others— to help them become what God wants them to be, not what we want them to be.

Prayer...
Thank you Father, for helping me appreciate others and value them for who they are. Thank you for your love that’s in my heart, which I express to everyone around me today, through my words and actions, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Romans 5:5; And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

1 John 4:17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 4:4-23 Isaiah 42-43
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 1:1-14 Lamentation 2

Lobeez:
Yes they did not understand THE MAN, THE MESSAGE, and THE MANDATE but they could not deny his ACTS

I didn't skip the scriptures of matthew, I ignored it cos it didn't help your argument.
Gosh you guys are sooooooo dumb so I'm gonna just give you an easier translation


Matthew 10:24-25Contemporary English Version (CEV)

24 Disciples are not better than their teacher, and slaves are not better than their master. 25 It is enough for disciples to be like their teacher and for slaves to be like their master. If people call the head of the family Satan, what will they say about the rest of the family?


so tell me how this supports your ignorance

??
well, if they Could say Jesus is of the family of satan, what then would folks like you (modern day pharisees) say about we that are of Jesus' household?

use those brains nah, or na fat you gather upstairs?

how would they understand His acts if the could not understand Him or His message?

una dey see wise man abi?!

Wristler:
I think its a figure of expression. SonofLucifer tho

Exactly!

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then y is the world still needing evangelism. Y doesnt he just wrap up evrything. Throw d devil into hell and setup his kingdom on earth.

The parable of the great banquet.
Table laid,seats for all, come and eat free.
You can accept or reject.

God created evrybody but not evrybody is a child of God.

The killing of egypts first borns:
the blood of the lamb was smeared on the lintel.
The death angel didnt enter that house.
You know this event ponted to christ.
The lamb was a type of Christ.
Whosoever had the blood on his lintel was spared.
God didnt lay claim to every one.

Noah's ark paints a similar picture.
It also depicts the rapture.
After Noah and His family got into d ark, judgement visited d earth.

Could Noah's ark hold more? Sure.

Believe wat u want but scriptures prove u wrong. [size=25pt]Jesus isnt lord over all.[/size]

Guess who scriptures proved wrong!?

Acts 10:36 New International Version
You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through [size=20pt]Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all[/size].

Satan is Lord of some peoples life.

Any Bible verses please?

Until the person under satans lordship renounces verbally and accepts Jesus Lordship verbally, jesus has no claim on him legally.

Colossians 1:15-23The Message (MSG)

Christ Holds It All Together

15-18 We look at this Son and see the God who cannot be seen. We look at this Son and see God’s original purpose in everything created. For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels—everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him. He was there before any of it came into existence and holds it all together right up to this moment. And when it comes to the church, he organizes and holds it together, like a head does a body.

18-20 He was supreme in the beginning and—leading the resurrection parade—he is supreme in the end. From beginning to end he’s there, towering far above everything, everyone. So spacious is he, so roomy, that everything of God finds its proper place in him without crowding. Not only that, but all the broken and dislocated pieces of the universe—people and things, animals and atoms—get properly fixed and fit together in vibrant harmonies, all because of his death, his blood that poured down from the cross.

21-23 You yourselves are a case study of what he does. At one time you all had your backs turned to God, thinking rebellious thoughts of him, giving him trouble every chance you got. But now, by giving himself completely at the Cross, actually dying for you, Christ brought you over to God’s side and put your lives together, whole and holy in his presence. 

Rev3:20

Behold i stand at the and knock..
If anyman hears and lets God in fine.

This was onky possible because He's paid the price and what's everybody to let Him in. Not because he's trying to save us, but because He already has at the cross, hence the knocking

Lobeez:
SMH! I wonder how you read your bibles, the people never doubted whether the healings really occurred, they just did not believe Jesus was the messiah.

John 6:62-66King James Version (KJV)

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

If you don't believe and understand THE MAN, cannot understand THE MESSAGE, and hence cannot understand THE MANDATE. . . .simple.

you nicely skipped the scriptures of matthew.ok o

asalimpo:
Yeah,i know Jesus paid d full price for man's salvation.
But the gift isnt forced ,man can accept or reject it.
So Jesus doesnt hav automatic claim to everybody.

my dear,Jesus has claim for ALL, whether we believe it or not,He has already paid the price fully for ALL humanity-the whole world

There is no such thing as 'selling the soul to the devil". No one has the right to sell their souls to anybody. Even if they said "hey devil, I'm selling my soul to you" , it is an illegal transaction and hold no legal points in the sight of God. Jesus OWNS ALL souls, for the Bible declares Jesus bought the whole field, and paid the price for all!

If one sold their soul to the devil, what did the devil pay for it? To whom? Though the devil will take advantage of one's ignorance of selling their soul, it still doesn't mean he (Satan) own legal right to any soul, except those pronounced the devil's by God.

nora544:
https://www.nairaland.com/1934462/christ-embassy-new-twist-pastor

What is with this post you say nothing, he has nothing to say in UK,

The church in Uk didnot belong to him read this and it is tru.

Why we didnot see any photo of this event.

You want me to say something? Why did you say it's true? Because it's against Pastor Chris?

jared007:
nora the self-righteous babe abi na boy u be? Which church u dey attend sef becos all ur previous posts happen to criticize pastors of different churches?

Its a she... and she claims to be Catholic.

nora544:
I want to see the documents because I know about the miracles in nigeria running to India and than telling his followers God in his grace gave us 2 kids at the same time and when they make it in india with modern medicine and also in nigeria it is possib ;Dle.

Pastor chris has no documents about his miracles and I know this so stop telling lies.

kay29000:
That's so true...but unfortunately, there is a lot of "hero-worship" going on right now. People want to be like their favourite celebrity, Or want to grow their hair like their pastor and talk exactly like him.

I meant for example wishing I was Christiano Ronaldo

nora544:
This is no miracle, sorrry that i have to tell you this, that with the modern medicine you can make this.

Just see it in the news yesterday that a woman who has now womb, got a new womp and after 2 years she got a child so that is modern medicine and no miracles University hospitaly of vienna they can make this and they are not the only hospital in the world who make this.

I know in nigeria you see only church programs but no informations about medicne.
We had yesterday a documentation it was about 50 minutes long about ebola and what they are doing and about medicine and about zmapp but i know it is more important to look at your rich pastors that you get brainwashed.

I laugh at your ignorance

Lobeez:
Don't play smart mr Gombs, was the miracles of Jesus or the apostles ever in doubt by the people of their time?

Yes when people doubted Moses, God always performed a miracle through him that shut them up. those miracles were never denied read your bible Mr

the pharisees and other folks doubted him. read John 6:62-66 esp 66. Jesus himself said if they said he is of the house of beelzebub,how much more (not less o)
shall they call those of His household. Math 10:24-25

as for God being doubted by the isrealite,you want verses where God himself was pissed at their unbelief or doubt to his mighty works?

True mark of a Christian

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One question Mr, Did anybody in the time of Jesus doubt any of the miracles he performed?

Really? Folks doubted God himself in the days of the old church, ask Moses! Why won't they doubt Jesus and why not Jo or Pastor Chris or any other Christian?

Wasn't it a general consensus that he had powers?

Did people not think the Apostles were gods? and even tried to worship them because of undeniable miracles?

So, you mean you can verify how shadows healed folks? If I tell you today a Pastor somewhere in Asia healed folks with his shadows, mwhat would be your response? Ah! "Show me proof" "liars and gullible fellows" etc

Joagbajes video was a joke

Exactly what fhe pharisees said when folks told them Jesus was alive.. they said "you guys are jokers, you think say we no know una hide the body?"
Nothing new buddy, the devils of those days are nstill the ones today. Same pattern, different tactic. He's doing a fine job on you.

PastorKun:
Congratulations in your attempt to bring Jesus down whilst glorifying oyaks and joagbaje.

There is nothing difficult about verifying a simple case of miraculous healing, shame on your thieving pastor for not being able to verify a single one of his so called miracles.

“If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.”- John 15:20

OmoPastor:
I thought this thread was about the program that held at the Excel center, what's all these rantings am reading here.
OP please post pix of the program, miracles, excerpts of the Word etc.
Thanks

I'm on it bro

PastorKun:

A miracle can't verified You now see the damage oyakhilome is doing to your already pathetic mental faculties. This criminal has totally destroyed your ability to reason. I remember this was the manipulative lie that he told his victims when NBC insisted he must verify his miracles before airing them. He said " how can mere mortals want to verify spiritual things"? Thus confusing his victims and giving him an escape route for his inability to verify even a single miracle.

I pray God delivers you, Gombs and others from the spell of oyakhilome. Amen( I suspect joagbaje's case is beyond redemption though as he might have sold his soul to the devil)

Can all Jesus' miracles be verified naturally? If yes, how can one verify these? See what some folks already said of Jesus' miracles

Jesus was born of a virgin (Matt. 1:25). It could be said that Jesus was born normally, and myth crept into the story of Christ's birth in order to make Him seem special.  After all, how do you verify a virgin birth?

Jesus changed water into wine (John 2:6-10)
It is possible for anyone to say that Jesus switched the water for wine or had some help in doing it. Else, how could anyone verify it, it's those servant's word against anyone's?

Jesus caused the disciples to catch a large load of fish (Luke 5:4-6).
I can come up with only one account for the time when Jesus instructed the disciples to cast their net into the water; they caught a large amount of fish even though they had been fishing all night long and caught nothing.  From that shore, Jesus was somehow able to see into the water and spot the fish swimming there.  How do we verify this was a miracle?

Jesus cast out demons (Matt. 8:28-32; 15:22-28).
It is possible that demons were never cast out of anyone.  It is possible that the people were pretending to be sick and then appeared cured after Jesus did whatever He did to cure them.  

Jesus raised the dead (Matt. 9:25; John 11:43-44).
Those who were dead really only appeared to be dead--given that the people of the time were not aware of many of the medical intricacies that can lead to people looking dead when they were not really dead. 

Jesus cured deafness (Mark 7:32-35).
The deaf person was not really deaf.  It was a trick--a previously arranged setup to make Jesus look good.

Moral of story... No need verifying anything to anybody, for they'd have their own theory of the matter. Days ago, Joagbaje put up a video of a HIV case, alot of folks here had their own theories about it, no matter the proofs submitted. Same thing in the crusade he had, folks still had their theory. What then? Keep healing folks in the name of Jesus and let those waiting for verification keep waiting.

If you and NBC need verification, it's not a new thing, folks in Jesus' day needed it too.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them (Ephesians 2:10).

God wants you to value yourself for who you are. There’re people who aren’t satisfied with themselves; they have the burden of always wishing they were like someone else. No; be yourself. And the first way to do that is to value yourself, because God values you and is happy about you. Remember that you can’t treat anyone else right until you treat yourself right; if you're not glad about yourself, you most certainly won't be glad about anyone else.

You’re valuable to God; that's why He sent Jesus to die in your place. The value of an item is the price paid for it. Your value is the life of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. So value yourself and quit trying to be someone else. Be happy about you, and be the best of you for God. God loves diversity and that's the beauty of life. We’re so many in the world, but God expresses Himself through everyone of us in different ways; and until you recognize that, you may never be able to bring out the best in you.

It’s your responsibility to bring out the best in you. Your heart is like a garden, and God expects you to tend it, and bring forth the best out of your garden. It’s up to you, what you produce from your garden: the kind of crop you come up with. What you sow is what you reap (Galatians 6:7).

We read in our opening verse that you’re God’s workmanship. You’re His excellent handiwork. You mean so much to Him. Become satisfied with the truth that He loves you, wants you, and is happy to have some one like you. Acknowledge that you're the best of you that God has. Love yourself, because God loves you; and express that love to other people. Refuse to let anyone demean you. You’re God’s best. Believe it, accept it and think that way.

Kenny4lyfe:
There isn't now is there?



It isn't a miracle if it's verifiable sir!
The NBC of all people knew that (at least the christians amongst them), they yank off ATM off of national TV not the other way around. BLW simply outsmart them by thinking outside the box and now, ATM is viewed all around the world!

A question sir- where has your criticism taken you: Local, National, Continental, Worldwide or simply [size=30pt]confined to nairaland[/size]?

Gbam

Be Yourself · Sunday, October 5th

Pastor Chris

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them (Ephesians 2:10).

God wants you to value yourself for who you are. There’re people who aren’t satisfied with themselves; they have the burden of always wishing they were like someone else. No; be yourself. And the first way to do that is to value yourself, because God values you and is happy about you. Remember that you can’t treat anyone else right until you treat yourself right; if you’re not glad about yourself, you most certainly won’t be glad about anyone else.

You’re valuable to God; that’s why He sent Jesus to die in your place. The value of an item is the price paid for it. Your value is the life of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. So value yourself and quit trying to be someone else. Be happy about you, and be the best of you for God. God loves diversity and that’s the beauty of life. We’re so many in the world, but God expresses Himself through every one of us in different ways; and until you recognize that, you may never be able to bring out the best in you.

It’s your responsibility to bring out the best in you. Your heart is like a garden, and God expects you to tend it, and bring forth the best out of your garden. It’s up to you, what you produce from your garden: the kind of crop you come up with. What you sow is what you reap (Galatians 6:7).

We read in our opening verse that you’re God’s workmanship. You’re His excellent handiwork. You mean so much to Him. Become satisfied with the truth that He loves you, wants you, and is happy to have someone like you. Acknowledge that you’re the best of you that God has. Love yourself, because God loves you; and express that love to other people. Refuse to let anyone demean you. You’re God’s best. Believe it, accept it and think that way.

Confession...
I’m God’s workmanship, recreated in Christ Jesus unto good works. I acknowledge my origin, heritage and personality in Christ; therefore, my faith is operative and effective in the Name of Jesus! I’m God’s best, His cream and beauty, and my life is for His glory, now and forever. Amen.

Further Study:
Psalms 139:14; I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 3:12-4:1-3 Isaiah 40-41
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philemon 1:10-25 Lamentation 1

nora544:
What I didnot understand why something like this is in my country the owner of this place has to look that they have the place for all the cars.

Why it must be all on one place why it could not be every week in different states.

what is with modern media didnot know that they can put big TVs that all the followers can see this in their churches.

I'm laughing because I couldn't read what you wrote

PastorKun:
Ok let me know when you are in Lagos so I can take you out for lunch.

Ok

PastorKun:
Would you be attending the IPPC? Or the meagre partnership you contributed does not qualify you to attend?

Yes, would you be able to come to LCA?

Kenny4lyfe:
I thought you're hell-bent on unraveling the "charades being perpetrated by this shenanigans"?
So, all this your rant on NL na shakara?
Abi no be your personal conviction be that?
Na wa oh!

forget these guys jare... thier mouth na only on NL... remember that anti tithe tract thread? It's almost 3 months now no action. Let's not even talk about UK, IPPC is next month, Kunle and his band of misfits CANNOT come close to the arena, not because they are barred, but either because they can't stand excellence and progressiveness or because they simply don't want to be proved wrong.

PastorKun:
Maybe your oga, (joagbaje) can sponsor me since he has so much money to splash around. On second thoughts, why would I want to go half way across the world to watch a charade being organised by a shameless man who can't take care of his home

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Simply ask him to sponsor you, just that when you get there, you fit escape because you dey white man land, making London Police to start questioning Jo... Meanwhile, Keep hating, while Pastor Chris keeps blazing new trails