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One question Mr, Did anybody in the time of Jesus doubt any of the miracles he performed?

Really? Folks doubted God himself in the days of the old church, ask Moses! Why won't they doubt Jesus and why not Jo or Pastor Chris or any other Christian?

Wasn't it a general consensus that he had powers?

Did people not think the Apostles were gods? and even tried to worship them because of undeniable miracles?

So, you mean you can verify how shadows healed folks? If I tell you today a Pastor somewhere in Asia healed folks with his shadows, mwhat would be your response? Ah! "Show me proof" "liars and gullible fellows" etc

Joagbajes video was a joke

Exactly what fhe pharisees said when folks told them Jesus was alive.. they said "you guys are jokers, you think say we no know una hide the body?"
Nothing new buddy, the devils of those days are nstill the ones today. Same pattern, different tactic. He's doing a fine job on you.

PastorKun:
Congratulations in your attempt to bring Jesus down whilst glorifying oyaks and joagbaje.

There is nothing difficult about verifying a simple case of miraculous healing, shame on your thieving pastor for not being able to verify a single one of his so called miracles.

“If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.”- John 15:20

OmoPastor:
I thought this thread was about the program that held at the Excel center, what's all these rantings am reading here.
OP please post pix of the program, miracles, excerpts of the Word etc.
Thanks

I'm on it bro

PastorKun:

A miracle can't verified You now see the damage oyakhilome is doing to your already pathetic mental faculties. This criminal has totally destroyed your ability to reason. I remember this was the manipulative lie that he told his victims when NBC insisted he must verify his miracles before airing them. He said " how can mere mortals want to verify spiritual things"? Thus confusing his victims and giving him an escape route for his inability to verify even a single miracle.

I pray God delivers you, Gombs and others from the spell of oyakhilome. Amen( I suspect joagbaje's case is beyond redemption though as he might have sold his soul to the devil)

Can all Jesus' miracles be verified naturally? If yes, how can one verify these? See what some folks already said of Jesus' miracles

Jesus was born of a virgin (Matt. 1:25). It could be said that Jesus was born normally, and myth crept into the story of Christ's birth in order to make Him seem special.  After all, how do you verify a virgin birth?

Jesus changed water into wine (John 2:6-10)
It is possible for anyone to say that Jesus switched the water for wine or had some help in doing it. Else, how could anyone verify it, it's those servant's word against anyone's?

Jesus caused the disciples to catch a large load of fish (Luke 5:4-6).
I can come up with only one account for the time when Jesus instructed the disciples to cast their net into the water; they caught a large amount of fish even though they had been fishing all night long and caught nothing.  From that shore, Jesus was somehow able to see into the water and spot the fish swimming there.  How do we verify this was a miracle?

Jesus cast out demons (Matt. 8:28-32; 15:22-28).
It is possible that demons were never cast out of anyone.  It is possible that the people were pretending to be sick and then appeared cured after Jesus did whatever He did to cure them.  

Jesus raised the dead (Matt. 9:25; John 11:43-44).
Those who were dead really only appeared to be dead--given that the people of the time were not aware of many of the medical intricacies that can lead to people looking dead when they were not really dead. 

Jesus cured deafness (Mark 7:32-35).
The deaf person was not really deaf.  It was a trick--a previously arranged setup to make Jesus look good.

Moral of story... No need verifying anything to anybody, for they'd have their own theory of the matter. Days ago, Joagbaje put up a video of a HIV case, alot of folks here had their own theories about it, no matter the proofs submitted. Same thing in the crusade he had, folks still had their theory. What then? Keep healing folks in the name of Jesus and let those waiting for verification keep waiting.

If you and NBC need verification, it's not a new thing, folks in Jesus' day needed it too.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them (Ephesians 2:10).

God wants you to value yourself for who you are. There’re people who aren’t satisfied with themselves; they have the burden of always wishing they were like someone else. No; be yourself. And the first way to do that is to value yourself, because God values you and is happy about you. Remember that you can’t treat anyone else right until you treat yourself right; if you're not glad about yourself, you most certainly won't be glad about anyone else.

You’re valuable to God; that's why He sent Jesus to die in your place. The value of an item is the price paid for it. Your value is the life of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. So value yourself and quit trying to be someone else. Be happy about you, and be the best of you for God. God loves diversity and that's the beauty of life. We’re so many in the world, but God expresses Himself through everyone of us in different ways; and until you recognize that, you may never be able to bring out the best in you.

It’s your responsibility to bring out the best in you. Your heart is like a garden, and God expects you to tend it, and bring forth the best out of your garden. It’s up to you, what you produce from your garden: the kind of crop you come up with. What you sow is what you reap (Galatians 6:7).

We read in our opening verse that you’re God’s workmanship. You’re His excellent handiwork. You mean so much to Him. Become satisfied with the truth that He loves you, wants you, and is happy to have some one like you. Acknowledge that you're the best of you that God has. Love yourself, because God loves you; and express that love to other people. Refuse to let anyone demean you. You’re God’s best. Believe it, accept it and think that way.

Kenny4lyfe:
There isn't now is there?



It isn't a miracle if it's verifiable sir!
The NBC of all people knew that (at least the christians amongst them), they yank off ATM off of national TV not the other way around. BLW simply outsmart them by thinking outside the box and now, ATM is viewed all around the world!

A question sir- where has your criticism taken you: Local, National, Continental, Worldwide or simply [size=30pt]confined to nairaland[/size]?

Gbam

Be Yourself · Sunday, October 5th

Pastor Chris

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them (Ephesians 2:10).

God wants you to value yourself for who you are. There’re people who aren’t satisfied with themselves; they have the burden of always wishing they were like someone else. No; be yourself. And the first way to do that is to value yourself, because God values you and is happy about you. Remember that you can’t treat anyone else right until you treat yourself right; if you’re not glad about yourself, you most certainly won’t be glad about anyone else.

You’re valuable to God; that’s why He sent Jesus to die in your place. The value of an item is the price paid for it. Your value is the life of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. So value yourself and quit trying to be someone else. Be happy about you, and be the best of you for God. God loves diversity and that’s the beauty of life. We’re so many in the world, but God expresses Himself through every one of us in different ways; and until you recognize that, you may never be able to bring out the best in you.

It’s your responsibility to bring out the best in you. Your heart is like a garden, and God expects you to tend it, and bring forth the best out of your garden. It’s up to you, what you produce from your garden: the kind of crop you come up with. What you sow is what you reap (Galatians 6:7).

We read in our opening verse that you’re God’s workmanship. You’re His excellent handiwork. You mean so much to Him. Become satisfied with the truth that He loves you, wants you, and is happy to have someone like you. Acknowledge that you’re the best of you that God has. Love yourself, because God loves you; and express that love to other people. Refuse to let anyone demean you. You’re God’s best. Believe it, accept it and think that way.

Confession...
I’m God’s workmanship, recreated in Christ Jesus unto good works. I acknowledge my origin, heritage and personality in Christ; therefore, my faith is operative and effective in the Name of Jesus! I’m God’s best, His cream and beauty, and my life is for His glory, now and forever. Amen.

Further Study:
Psalms 139:14; I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 3:12-4:1-3 Isaiah 40-41
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philemon 1:10-25 Lamentation 1

nora544:
What I didnot understand why something like this is in my country the owner of this place has to look that they have the place for all the cars.

Why it must be all on one place why it could not be every week in different states.

what is with modern media didnot know that they can put big TVs that all the followers can see this in their churches.

I'm laughing because I couldn't read what you wrote

PastorKun:
Ok let me know when you are in Lagos so I can take you out for lunch.

Ok

PastorKun:
Would you be attending the IPPC? Or the meagre partnership you contributed does not qualify you to attend?

Yes, would you be able to come to LCA?

Kenny4lyfe:
I thought you're hell-bent on unraveling the "charades being perpetrated by this shenanigans"?
So, all this your rant on NL na shakara?
Abi no be your personal conviction be that?
Na wa oh!

forget these guys jare... thier mouth na only on NL... remember that anti tithe tract thread? It's almost 3 months now no action. Let's not even talk about UK, IPPC is next month, Kunle and his band of misfits CANNOT come close to the arena, not because they are barred, but either because they can't stand excellence and progressiveness or because they simply don't want to be proved wrong.

PastorKun:
Maybe your oga, (joagbaje) can sponsor me since he has so much money to splash around. On second thoughts, why would I want to go half way across the world to watch a charade being organised by a shameless man who can't take care of his home

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Simply ask him to sponsor you, just that when you get there, you fit escape because you dey white man land, making London Police to start questioning Jo... Meanwhile, Keep hating, while Pastor Chris keeps blazing new trails

Kenny4lyfe:
UKZone2 will never be the same again!
@PastorKun why not go to the UK and witness the event yourself?

hahahahahaha.... that guy is somewhere in Lagos selling auto parts, how on earth do you want him to afford a trip to the UK? Anyways, he can write Sahara Reporters to go find out.

Nora o!

write a complaint to the UK Government, else sharaaaaap! Your rant on NL makes no difference beyond this site.

Atmosphere For Miracles (AFM) is a daily webcast programme hosted by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD, the president of Believers LoveWorld Incorporated, aka Christ Embassy. Pastor Chris has touched millions of lives around the world with the healing power of God through the operation and gifts of the Holy Spirit. Through the AFM flagship programme, many receive the healing touch of God right in the comfort of their homes or any location they may be.

AFM provides the viewer the opportunity to relive the miracles, receive revelation of God’s word and experience the life-transforming moments. The programme usually features events and conferences that have been held and hosted in the Ministry worldwide in which the man of God operated diverse signs and wonders through the anointing power of the Holy Spirit.

The AFM programme also features highlights from the sessions of the world renowned Healing School. The Healing School in South Africa and Canada are where many who were given up for dead or were challenged with chronic conditions, receive and testify of their miraculous healing.

[size=20pt]But Is There Such A Thing As An ‘Atmosphere’ For Miracles?[/size]
The vision of the Believers LoveWorld is taking God's divine presence to the nations of the world and to demonstrate the character of the Holy Spirit. This is achieved through every available means, as the Ministry is driven by a passion to see men and women all over the world, come to the knowledge of the divine life made available in Christ Jesus. There is such a thing as the divine presence of God.

And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. Luke 5:17( KJV) . In an atmosphere for miracle, the power of the Lord is present to heal; there is a strong move of the Spirit. This is because there is a corporate faith.

Christ Embassy UK Zone 2, in this year of Greatness, 2014, is hosting Atmosphere For Miracles at the Excel Centre giving everyone the opportunity to experience their own miracle whatever that miracle they desire may be. Atmosphere For Miracles has become a household name for many to tap into the glory of God’s power for their miracle.

1 Western Gateway, London E16 1XL, UK

for direction, click here https://www.google.com/maps/dir//51.5085,0.029846/@51.5082879,-0.0388073,12z/data=!3m1!4b1

nannymcphee: Who determines its relevance, YOU

Well, look around you...you're the only one remaining.

i simply asked him to show me where he stated it, you have shown me, so what's the big deal

I Showed you, you still wanted me to show you again...I did, now you're pained , Haba na, we are friends o

whether or not u agree with the word "proponent" your post all over NL will show that u are among Christians that use the "touch not"

Ok, I am, so what then? You gonna nail me? Teach me? What are you going to do about it? Ah...open threads and write on?..oya na

I know your type & I also know that someday the scales will fall off your eyes, I just hope it doesn't fall off too late

You don’t know my type... you don’t even have the faintest of idea...scales? Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha, fall off shey? Ok na, let's wait for one day. Too late? Muhehehhehehehe...ok, thanks for the wishes.

Since the thread has become irrelevant to you, kindly un follow

Done that already.. Please, make sure you don't quote me or mention me. Thanks, have a great life, and do keep praying the scales falls off my eyes.

Oyinprince: Wow , nothing can stop us. #WeTakingOver

That's right, taking over nations for Christ

Humility: The Way To Greatness · Saturday, Oct 4th

Pastor Chris

...Truly I say to you, unless you repent (change, turn about) and become like little children [trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving], you can never enter the kingdom of heaven [at all]. Whoever will humble himself therefore and become like this little child [trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving] is greatest in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 18:3-4 AMP).

Great men and women are usually very humble. People who are puffed up or arrogant are never great. In fact, they’re puffed up because there isn’t anything great about them. Proverbs 18:12 says, "Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour is humility." James 4:6 also says, "But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."

Every child of God must be humble. Humility, however, doesn’t mean you’re foolish, neither does it mean stupidity. Humility is of the mind and of the heart; it’s of the inward man. You can know a humble man not just from the outside, but from the inside. True humility is submitting yourself to the Lordship of Jesus Christ through the Word. The Word of God is the only power that can get into your spirit to make the necessary adjustments. When you study the Word and let it guide your thoughts, actions and way of life, you’re automatically submitting to Jesus because He’s the Living Word.

God has destined you for greatness! As you get greater, be more humble. Small men are rough, brash and disrespectful. Never esteem yourself by your natural achievements or physical abilities; submit yourself instead, to the Word. Follow instructions and submit yourself to leadership. As you receive God’s Word and act accordingly, you become more humble, and your life becomes more glorious.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for the life of Christ in me. Thank you for the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, who teaches and guides me from within. Thank you for your Word that teaches me the importance of humility; it produces the result of what it talks about in me today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Luke 9:48;And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

1 Peter 5:6 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 2:19-3:1-11 Isaiah 38-39
2Year Bible Reading Plan: Philemon 1:1-9 Jeremiah 52

nannymcphee: I don't want to start trading words with you!

image123 made it clear he wasn't a proponent meaning he doesn't use the term "touch not"

Proponents are those that support or propagate the use of something

so when did mbaemeka state that he doesn't use the phrase "touch not"

you only had a problem with the word "proponent" but it doesn't change the fact that you support the use of "touch not "

So again when did mbaemeka CLEARLY state that he doesn't use "touch not"

Are you now blinded with bianess?

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Going by what Image123 had already said when David had the opportunity to kill Saul he refused to and when one of his soldiers offered to do it David called Saul "the Lord's annointed". Remember that David too was the Lord's anointed (and even more anointed than Saul if I may add) but when he learned about Saul's death he exclaimed "How are the mighty fallen?" before he instructed his men not to tell the story amongst the Heathens (Garth in the context).

He didn't call Saul a demon-possessed Charlatan or fraud that God had punished. Instead with tears he queried why such a mighty man had fallen so ignominiously.I am not a proponent of anything except I declare unequivocally that I am. Just thought to add that.

Ma'am, face it... this thread is now irrelevant.

Azibalua: NA wa oh some people can never see good in anything.
It is well
Glory to God
It's indeed a year of greatness for us.

The remedy is ignoring them,.

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Joagbaje: When I said the First Lady be our member and she was in the partners conference last year in lagos , them say na lie . Now no be just First Lady , the first man don join. Many of their household members recieved healing in the healing school

One day, this would be tye testimony in India, China, North Korea, Middle East etc...Glory to God!

nannymcphee: I'm sorry, pls when did you tell me you are not a "proponent"?

Are you image123?

Becos he is the only one that stated that?

https://www.nairaland.com/1917847/proponents-touch-not-anointed#26584954



I also objected to the term 'proponents'

WinsomeX: Congratulations

On?

Praise the Lord bro!

ichuka: Lol, Some folks will never learn. Christainity has nothing to do with commercialization.

See them o

I'm here now... hubreality, where are you?

Let's get this thread moving

https://www.nairaland.com/1931904/south-africans-vow-sack-christ

Let's dust this thread up now, yeah!

Joagbaje: Don't mind all these our nairalanders and their lies . Just like the bible says they deceived and being deceived .

2 Timothy 3:13
" But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."

Hahahahahah, I like the way Pastor Chris minds his business... truly, results speaks louder than words. Just wait a while, same folks who praised the same SA government of 5years back, will still be the ones nailing that same government today. Wait for them.

olu77: You like the boss like way pastor Chris lead them abi? Me I like the humility of president Zuma and his wife. There is always something godly beautiful about humble people.

Hmmm

100% Endorsed

I Reserved the first and Second spot for the pics

Wonderful hall and stage design...#Class #Excellence

I Like the pic where Pastor Chris was leading the President of SA and his team like a boss he is..