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Goshen360:
Please, where did Jesus PAID tithe while on earth?

Smarten up na, wasn't Jesus a Jew?

trustman:
That 'coolest writing you've seen all day' actually shows your unwillingness to be objective.
Remember one of the things your Hagin said:
"Making a New Testament application of Old Testament technicalities violates every principle of Bible interpretation,... ..."
It's unfortunate that you guys fail woefully here to apply the same thinking to tithing.

It's sad you have comprehension issues. Hagin quoted that for those preachers who claims they are the now priests, and first fruits belongs to them. But if you feel that Hagin will say that and still talk tithing, in same book, then I must say your comprehension ability is beyond redemption

nlMediator:
I thought you had a foolish thread you claimed would solve all the problems generated by WOF? Why can't you post this video there and hear me complain still? The point, which you know but pretend not to, is that this thread is about a book on prosperity. You can launch all your baseless attacks on WOF relating to that topic. To no avail, of course. But at least, you'd be on point. You are more interested in what you and your ilk do best: scatter a thread so at the end of the day nobody learns anything meaningful.

Let me know when you're done with your empty thread on WOF. It must be such a huge success that you find the time and cannot reist the urge to continue your WOF attacks on other threads.

I thought I was the only one who noticed. These folks vooks, Babagnoni, WinsomeX, especially kept proliferating the WoF foolish thread on every thread they visit. If they made any remarkable success in that thread, surely, no need for their staining every thread with their WoF thread. These blokes never cease to amaze me sha.

Hagin has been a minister for 68 years, way longer than we were born, the success of his ministry is impeccable, yet, they feel they know better because the studied harder. They rejoiced and misquoted him, I opened the book, they were all waiting, Hagin condemned certain practices, they want to take credit. The crudest of them all WinsomeX claims Hagin would uave renounced WoF if he had lived longer, later he said Hagin just wanted to clean the mess he made, he didn't do much as he was supposed to condemn Word of Faith.

Now, Hagin who they cheered, now has mentioned tithe, they all disagree with him, msame folks who loved the book. Free these men... they are worse than those Israelites in Moses' day

mbaemeka:
1. Jesus did not FUNCTION as a priest on earth. Jesus is now a high priest forever. Jesus paid tithes while on earth.
2. Melchizedek did not collect tithes "where he was able to use it". You don't know enough about Melchizedek to make such a statement.
3. Jacob learned to pay tithes from someone, care to tell us who it was? I wager he learnt it from his father, Isaac.

NB: I am not interested in this endless tithe arguments. I just wanted to raise red flags to some of your unsubstantiated claims.

Gbam!
1, 000, 000, 000 gbosa!

the colored is the coolest writting I've seen all day

Goshen360:
@ Gombs,

I will show you from scriptures, the foolishness of this your tithe teaching adopted from Hagin. Stay alert! !!

Save that for newbies.... we've been through it all

Lobeez:
Okay Gombs so answer me: Is tithing compulsory?

Is being blessed by force?

mbaemeka:
1. Certain came from James.
2. When they came he [Peter] withdrew and separated himself from the gentiles fearing THEM [certain that came from James]
3. Other Jews like Barnabas too were carried away by the dissimulation.
4. Paul rebuked Peter before THEM [certain that came from James] all [including the other Jews around Paul like Barnabas]

Who were these certain men? Where they 'floor members' or 'Excos'? Why did James (leader of the Jerusalem church) send them?

Those who have eyes to see will see while the incorrigibly positioned hooligans will keep trolling by making moot points here and there.

my man forget these guys... leave them in their ignorance. Imagine Paul in the midst of thousands of brethren rebuking Peter.

[size=20pt]Understand Why and How You Should Tithe[/size]

About fifty years ago, I was pastoring a church in the oil fields of east Texas. One of the deacons of the church had a good job working for Humble Oil Company. And he was always faithful in his support of the church.
One day he said to me, "Brother Hagin, can you explain something to me? I 've been a Christian for thirteen years, and
I 've been faithful in paying my tithes and giving offerings."

I knew that was true. He was a regular tither whose support really blessed the church. "What is it you want to know?" I
asked.

He said, "Well, I don't know why I'm doing it. I've never heard any teaching or preaching about tithing. When I got saved, they told me I was supposed to do it, so I did. But I don't know of anything that's ever come of it in thirteen years. If I've ever gotten any blessing out of it, I don't know it."

I was amazed. Here was a good man who had been tithing strictly from the standpoint of slavish duty, and it hadn't worked for him. So I took a few minutes and told him a little bit of what I'm sharing with you in this chapter.

Then I said to him, "The next time you get your tithe envelope out, say, 'Lord, I'm doing this by faith. I'm giving for the purpose of keeping this local church going, which is benefiting the Body of Christ by helping people. I'm helping spread the Gospel so that people can be saved. Thank You, God, for making it possible for me to be part of Your work. I am giving in faith and expectancy to be blessed according to Your Word.'"

"I'll sure give that a try," he said. And he did.

About thirty days later, he came back to me with a big grin on his face. "I've been doing what you said, Brother Hagin. Every week I've been praying when I get ready to pay my tithes. And boy," he declared, "it's really working. I can definitely tell a difference in my finances!"

Another time, in another east Texas church, a man came to me and said, "Brother Hagin, my wife and I have been paying tithes ever since we got saved, nearly twenty-five years. But we've never heard any teaching from the Bible about it. Many of our friends in the church are farmers. They borrow money to buy seed to plant, and when the cotton is ready, they hire people to pick it. How do they pay tithes?

"I talked to one or two of the deacons," he said. "And they don't know much about it, either. They said they had thought about asking you to preach about it, but they didn't want you to think they were trying to tell you what to preach. So I wanted to see if you thought you would be talking about it anytime soon?"

I said to the man, "Brother Williams, I'm glad you brought this up. God has been dealing with me about this before you ever said anything. So I'm going to do it right away."

In those days, the biggest crowd we had at our church was on Sunday night. The building was usually full, and if the weather was good, sometimes there would be people standing outside. Because I wanted the most people possible to hear what the Bible says about tithing and giving, I took a Sunday night and spent about an hour on the subject, going into great detail.

I had always tried to preach a balanced message to the church. I had preached about salvation, the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and the gifts of the Spirit. I had preached about healing, faith, and living a life of love and service to others. So the people knew I wasn't trying to cram something down their throats when I preached about finances; it was something they needed and wanted to know.

After the service, many of the folks told me how glad they were that I had preached about tithing and giving—that I had helped them understand what the Bible said and the purpose for giving to God. I could tell they had taken it to heart.

[size=20pt]Tithing Brings the Promised Blessings of God[/size]

Well, immediately the income of the church tripled! Without any special emphasis or pull, there was a generous response when we passed the offering plate. Even sinners started paying their tithes. There were two ladies in the church who were married to unsaved men. These two men would come to church with their families on Sunday night.

The very next day after I preached on tithing, one of these men stopped by the parsonage. "Brother Hagin," he said. "My wife and I talked about your sermon on the way home last night. We believe that God will bless us if we obey His Word. I just got off my first bales of cotton so I wanted to stop by and pay out tithes."

Well, those unsaved fellows kept on paying their tithes. And it wasn't long until both of them got saved and filled with the Spirit. Their families were blessed too. Later, one of the wives was called to preach, and the family went out on the field to minister. The last account I had of them, they were traveling about and evangelizing.

In my more than sixty-five years of ministry, I've heard thousands of testimonies from people who have practiced God's biblical plan of returning a tenth of their income to Him through the local church. A great many of them, in the beginning, weren't sure how they could get by on the remaining ninety percent of their income when they had been barely making it beforehand. But somehow they did. Oh, it wasn't always easy. It required patience, determination, faith, and some time.

But if they persisted, the promised blessings came. Sometimes they noticed that God had "rebuked the devourer" in their lives—the car or the appliances didn't break down as often or the kids weren't sick as much, resulting in fewer medical bills.
If they worked in construction or as farmers, bad weather didn't keep them off the job. Then many times, extra income would come from totally unexpected sources. Perhaps they would get a raise, some overtime hours, or maybe even a bonus! Others reported that they got an insurance settlement, collected on an old debt, or received an inheritance. ***Some folks will think Hagin is lying or it was God just being fair

The bottom line was that when they paid their tithes, they had more financially and did better. And most people were also blessed spiritually with a closet walk with God, physically with better health, and mentally and emotionally with a greater sense of joy and well-being. The Bible says, "The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it" (Prov. 10:22).


*** the blessing aren't necessarily monetary, for me, i get less expenses in ALL things and crazy gifts, including cash . Oya, food don done, where are shedemidemi and Goshen and others ? Lobeez, vooks are somewhat lost. Come give you theories

i am going out for follow up by 5pm.

see you all by 7pm

WinsomeX:
Gombs, provide the whole text on tithe which Hagin taught and let's discuss. Though I cannot understand why you will believe us on tithes when you refuse to accept thst Hagin rejected firstfruit. Is it tithe, which he advocated, that you will now accept?

Point where he rejected firstfuits... if he did, he would have spelt it out clearly. He said preachers used to say they are the priests now, hence firstfruits are for them. that was what he spoke against. A critic of Hagin wrote thus

Teachers like Hagin from the word of faith taught the 10% and more. They teach give to get it back. I've heard others claim a "first fruits" giving which is a calculated 10% annual figure given as a one lump sum in January for the projected year. It's a lie and there is no arguing that.

http://mkayla./2009/11/18/the-dangerous-teaching-methods-of-kenneth-e-hagin-junker-jorge/

at least the critic is on your side, he has nothing to hide.

I am not here to convince you to tithe, just to discuss the book. Hagin knew tithing is great and should be done, and used the word "Absolutely", if he was against firstfruits in its entirety he would have written so in clear terms

i will put up the whole text

vooks:
the Law also 'merely' regulated circumcision,sacrifices and offerings. Were circumcision,sacrifices and offerings BEFORE the Law by faith?
It is nonsense to claim that tithing BEFORE Moses was by 'faith' since there was no Law as if no Law automatically means faith

So, Abraham did not tithe by faith, by what exactly did he tithe?

Goshen360:
Go into scriptures, the NT...See how the early churches WAS ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING OR MOST THINGS WITHOUT RECORD OF ONE SINGLE TITHE COLLECTED. That's what we should stay with, NOT ADDING TO THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.

list them out please.

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There's absolutely no way you people can teach tithe without going back into self efforts or performance. You take us back into the law and wants us fall from Grace of God. You only hide under the umbrella of "BY FAITH. ..WE TITHE" You simply or quickly forget THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH. ..SO ALSO, FAITH IS NOT OF THE LAW. If Abraham tithed by faith, where is this monthly continuous tithing AS A LAW CAME FROM?

It is not a monthly thing, i tithe of all my increase, salary, bonus, dash, etc... one can tithe as much as 6 times a month... it is not a monthly thing, nor a law.

Faith that Abraham was justified by was clearly taught in scriptures, NOT THAT BELIEVERS ARE TO FOLLOW THE ACTS OF ABRAHAM. ...else, believers will sleep with their maids BY FAITH,

stop being cynical. But you follow his act of worship, his act of responding to the Word and also claim his blessings by faith, was sleeping with Hagar an act of faith? It was Sarahs idea, not his.

we will lie BY FAITH,

so Abraham lied? stop being like this na, was Sarah not really his sister?

we'll go to physical war BY FAITH.

David fought and won wars by faith, for God was with him in it. Now, why not call God biased for promoting wars then and telling us not to?

We'll kill BY FAITH. I hope you people are not trying to twist THEY THAT ARE OF FAITH ARE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM?

you never fail to disapoint

vooks:
If the people of God circumcised their boys BEFORE the Law, Moses was nearly killed over uncircumcision BEFORE the Law, they circumcised UNDER the Law,Jesus was circumcised, should we,who live by the grace do anything less when we have a better covenant?

I think we should circumcise boys and girls (FGM)

Does what you wrote make sense at all? it doesnt to me

Candour:
^^^. Very good. Time to talk about regulated and unregulated tithes

At least, we are done with first fruits, 100-fold return, double portion return, using the parable of the sower to manipulate Christians into parting with money etc

Ah! the only sensible post so far after my Tithe post from the book Hagin wrote.

Hagin highlighted the law MERELY regulated tithing, and we tithe by faith (a fact you attacked me and Joagbaje for) check the tithes and offering thread. Now, If churches are not to tithe, how then should they raise funds? Offerings and free willed donations alone? right? ok

from what Hagin wrote, you think he missed it? if so, kindly point them out

vooks:
Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
2:12 For before that certain came from James , he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all , If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?


REBUKED BEFORE THEM ALL. Who is 'THEM'?

smh

alright folks, i have been busier today, would upload tonight ... and a little change, our next topic is Chapter 4: THE PURPOSE OF PROSPERITY

it has wonderful topic such as;

God's People Must Prosper To Fulfill the Great Commission

Tithing—God's Plan for Financing The Church and Its Outreaches

Understand Why and How You Should Tithe

Tithing Brings the Promised Blessings of God

To Tithe or Not To Tithe

More Money Results in More Ministry

etc

from the above bold, let me put a little excerpt:

From time to time over the years, people have asked me if the practice of tithing is still valid for the Church today. "The New Testament really says very little about it," they say. "Should pastors and other ministers preach and encourage tithing with so little New Testament information on the subject. Should Christians be bound by the Old Testament Law?"
It is true that there is very little mention of tithing in the New Testament. Two of the Gospels, Matthew and Luke, report the only recorded incident of Jesus saying anything about it. But in this instance, Jesus clearly affirmed His belief in the practice of tithing:


"Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders—hypocrites'. For you time down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things— justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone."
—Matthew 23:23 (TLB)


Jesus upbraided the hypocritical religious leaders of His day who ignored vitally important parts of the Law such a justice, mercy, and faith, while meticulously paying the tithe they owed down to the last leaf in their garden. He was saying that giving money doesn't take the place of living right. God is not as interested in a person's money as He is in his heart. But Jesus did say that a person should tithe.

Although the majority of biblical references to the tithe are clearly part of the Old Covenant, the fact of the matter is that tithing was not introduced under the Law. It was merely regulated under the Law. Tithing originated as an act of faith, and faith transcends both the Old and New Covenants! And "by faith" is how we should tithe today—not as an act of legalism, but as an act of faith.

Genesis chapter 14 tells us how Abram paid tithes to Melchizedek, king of Salem and a priest of the Most High God, four hundred years before the time of Moses and the Law. Obviously, he did not pay tithes by legalistic requirement because he lived before the Law. Isaac and Jacob also lived before the Law and paid tithes (Gen. 18:19,20;28:22).

By faith, Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek, the priest of the Most High God, who was a type of Christ. We see this in the Book of Hebrews, which also tells us that, "... Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant" (Heb. 7:22 NIV).
Galatians chapter 3 makes some crucially important statements.

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
—Galatians 3:11-14

So should we pay tithes today? Absolutely! But we pay them like Abraham paid them—not by the Law, but by faith. And besides that, if the people of God paid ten percent before the Law and ten percent under the Law, should we, who live by grace, be doing any less when we have a better covenant? *** Wow, Good question***

Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek, the priest of the Most High God, who was a type of Christ. And he received the blessing, which was threefold—spiritual, physical, and material or financial. Because we are redeemed from the curse of the Law by the sacrifice of Christ, we have received the blessing of Abraham—spiritually, physically, and financially.

We, then, by faith follow the example of Abraham in paying tithes. We pay our tithes unto Christ! The Bible says in Ephesians that when God raised Jesus from the dead, He gave Him to be the Head over all things to the Church, which is His Body (Eph. 1:22,23). So when we pay tithes to Christ, the Head, they flow to His Body, the Church. Do you see it? Through the Church, we have the great privilege of giving to Jesus to do His will and work.

I believe if every Christian would be faithful in tithing and giving, there would be more than enough funds for the Church to carry out its mission in the world. Researchers have found that amazingly few born-again Americans tithe regularly, and a surprisingly large number give nothing! Imagine what could be accomplished if all Christians were faithful in their tithing and giving!


on second thought.. should i still put up chapter 4? Hagin explained Understand Why and How You Should Tithe ...it was a masterpiece.

WinsomeX:
Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. 2:12 For before that certain came from James , he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all , If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Why don't we look at the scripture instead of continual conjectures that are fruitless.

1. Paul rebuked Peter.

2. This rebuke was in public, not an isolated ministers conference as Gombs wants us to believe. It was in Antioch, the same place they were first called Christians.

i believe you have comprehension skills... but if you think Peter stood and Paul was ebuking him in the presence of the whole brethren in Antioch church, fine. Keep the delusion up

3. There is nothing in that scripture that depicts a sort of ministerial heriachy were Paul and Peter were mates. In those days the apostles were faithful to Jesus words that we are all brethren to the extent that a latter or Junior apostle like Paul could rebuke a senior one like Peter.

Paul was Junior apostle shey? Because you read he said he is the least of the apostles, abi? So, you did not read one was to the circumcised church, the other uncircumcised abi? no wahala

This passage is no justification for rebellion or confusion in church but the fact that believers should submit one to another and if God will speak through the least of apostles, the for most apostle should listen.

oya, sit here an type away.

I am not sure what version if scripture Imsge123 is using to come to a conclusion of mates on a certain heriarchy.

i wish you would quit been biased

Image123:
Scriptures twisted as usual. Paul wasn't on nairaland monkeying himself and gossiping or backbiting about dead people. He ACTUALLY withstood Peter to the face.
Two, Paul was right and Peter was clearly wrong, no debate.
Three, Paul corrected Peter in the spirit of meekness and love, not gloating like a rabid animal over Peter's mistake.
Four, Paul was Peter's mate as they were both apostles with marks and credibility. Unlike folks here who can't correct their kids to save their lives, but delude themselves with a calling to rain insults and jabs on ministers that they couldn't achieve a fraction of what they've done in three lifetimes. Spiritually, materially, academically and any other 'ally' there is.

Exactly... shedemidemi claimed Peter was rebuked publicly. He never mentioned it was in the midst of other Men of God, not public as in publicly.

but you got some classic sense of humor. the colored is sooooo true

pickabeau1:
is the new chapter out

On the way bro... work got crazier today

vooks:
You should speak against it as well. Save your fellow brethren from pious fraud.
Did paul ever mention by name wrongdoers?

Oh yes! I speak against it. But i will not mention Pastor's names and churches. I've never believed in extortion. I made mention of a friend of mine who left CE because she said her pastor, a lady, was 'greedy'. One day, maybe later, I'd share her story.

She was more that extorted. But I remember Pastor Chris this year vehemently opposing exactly same thing as what my friend's Pastor did to her. He did it with strong terms in this year's finance convention.

Now, a branch of CE did it, does it make the whole CE wrong or bad? I'm very sure that Pastor did it in ignorance, not as she was taught. That is why mentioning Pastor's and churches could be very erroneous. She misses Pastor Chris' meetings, alot, and can't seem to fit in another church, she listens to Pastor Chris at home, but I pray for her, always.

Lobeez:
@Gombs, you have a point, but what you must understand is there is a difference between someone ignorantly walking in error and someone who deliberately arranges schemes to fleece Gods children. Some of these men know the consequences of some of their actions on the people they pull it off on but will turn a blind eye because of the wickedness of greed that has taken over them.

Oh boy, the youtube videos, web links, blogs etc is really doing a lot, but you can't see it because you are on the other side of the divide. I've met dozens of people who turned their backs on WOF after seeing some of these videos. Let me give my own story: I started reading Hagins books as far back as 1989, by the time I became a teenager, I had read up to a dozen of his books. (My Mum, a Deeper Life leader had a large collection of Hagins books). I was truly inspired by his message and great testimonies of Gods power. I became fully immersed in WOF from 1993 to 2007. I was part of the emerging 'pentecostal' era of those times
However after I began my gradual withdrawal from the WOF, had the opportunity for the first time to see videos of some of the people I had only read in books, some of these videos shocked me. My curiosity was ignited and I wanted to know more, sadly more led to more and more and more till I could not take it any longer.
Today, I see through most of them and what saddens me is the fact that a lot of them know exactly what they are doing. Most of my friends that started the journey with me joined this bandwagon, they are international ministers today and professional snake oil salesmen.

I will only pray for the few who are just ignorantly misled, but for those who are deliberately wicked, I will expose them at any given time. I do not see them as men of God so do not have have an iota of respect for them

Thanks

Alright bro!

vooks:
I don't know how Hagin did, care to explain?

He condemned the act in strong terms, but not the churches, nor the pastors, for good reasons- They are not answerable to him, but to God. You don’t just crucify MenOG in your book or posts because you feel you are right. If you want to correct them, call them, like Hagin did, and rebuke them to their face as Paul did to Peter's face.

Imagine if Paul sat in his bedroom and wrote to all churches about Peter condemning him in strong terms. Paul wrote about the rebuke as you knew Hagin called a meeting rebuking some preachers, Paul did his rebuke in the presence of other Pastors (James, Barnabas etc) not to the whole Christians there, just like Hagin did in the presence of other pastors. Hagin has his church, others too, Paul was to the uncircumcised, Peter to the circumcised, imagine if Paul condemned the curcumcised church with their Pastor (probably head pastor) ?

I believe in prayer, condemning these Pastors or the churches WILL NOT make any change, if it could, those putting up short videos, blogs, websites etc would have made an impact-we both know the didn’t and haven't..., we have the message now, we preach it, share the book, send to these pastor's etc... condemning to me will not help the body of Christ, it would inevitably degenerate to insulting and all. Our weapons of warfare should not be carnal.

vooks:
thank you for your honesty.
DO you believe they should be condemned in the strongest terms?

Like Hagin did?

brocab:
Yes." Jesus said: Birds have nest, foxes have holes, but I have no place to rest my head. If Jesus was rich as some believe he was, Then with common sense. since the world began, never had the rich associated with the poor. So Jesus was poor. But rich in wisdom & knowledge..Jesus was the greatest possibility thinker their ever was on this planet, but he had chosen to be poor.

SMH ...

What To Do In Austere Times · Thursday, October 23rd

Pastor Chris

When men are cast down, then thou shalt say, There is lifting up… (Job 22:29).

The challenges of our day may be enormous, but amidst so much inflation, rising cost of living, you can still say, "When men are cast down, I am lifted up." When you begin to feel the pressure and the economic squeeze, don’t complain; that’s the time to make the Word work. Get into your closet and begin to declare your prosperity and abundance in Christ. Proclaim that you’re the seed of Abraham; an heir of God, and a joint-heir with Christ.

When you have sufficiently proclaimed the Word over your situation, those confessions will dominate your senses, such that when you’re asked, "How are you?" you’ll say, "Great things are happening! Good things are coming my way today!" Halleluiah. If you don’t talk the Word, the system of this world will overwhelm you, and you’ll be a victim in life. With the Word in your mouth, you’ll blaze through every barrier in life.

An important principle you need to learn that’ll help you grow bigger financially is letting your mind soar beyond the prevailing economic situation around you. Think how big God is. Think about the whole world as yours, for it’s indeed yours: "...For all things are yours" (1 Corinthians 3:21). Learn the value of meditating on the Word of God; it’ll give you an extraordinary mind-set, such that you’re unperturbed in austere times.

Let the Word of God enlarge your vision. Refuse to see lack and want. Look beyond the horizon. Your prosperity should be born of the Word in spite of circumstances. Isaac prospered in the midst of harsh economic conditions. In a time of famine, the Bible says he prospered, waxed great, made progress, and grew until he became very great (Genesis 26). There’s so much treasure in your country; and like Isaac, amidst the seeming hardship, you can prosper, wax great, make progress and grow, and become very great.

Confession...
I’m making progress, prospering and waxing great in every area of my life! The greater One lives in me, and He’s made me bigger, greater, and superior to inflation, insecurity, sickness, disease, and the devil. I’m a victor in Christ Jesus. Halleluiah!

Further Study:
Joshua 1:9; Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Ephesians 6:10; Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Job 22:29 When men are cast down, then thou shalt say, There is lifting up; and he shall save the humble person.

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 1 Timothy 5:1-25 Jeremiah 13-14
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 11:17-40 Ezekiel 22

brocab:
My quote wasn't set out to be idiotic as you say. It was meant so you can see how the truth, today has been twisted. We have got to remember the old testament tithing was set up for the priesthood who couldn't own land, also to help feed the "poor" and the "needy. It was the Pharisees who had chosen to change Gods Mosaic law, they tithe, but they didn't follow any other commandments. Matthew 23, V's 13 Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites. For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:for you never go in yourselves. V's 14,Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, For you devour widows' houses, V's 15 for you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. V's 16-Woe to you, blind guides, who say, "whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it". V's 23 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, pretenders {hypocrites}for you give a tithe of your mint and anise and cumin,and have neglected the weightier matters of the law; Justice, and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, with out leaving the others undone. These are the same Scribes, Pharisees and lawyers who paid tithes but didn't follow any of God's commandments" But abuse it. Jesus had to change the old covenant. And when we see in today's churches, again our priesthood, will tithe, but neglected the weightier matters of the law; Justice,and mercy and faith. Jesus had good reason to change that old covenant, he had seen the damaging side to it. The lord said: you cant worship Mammon and God at the same time, you will either hate one or love the other. That is why the old covenant was changed...

please move your tithe lectures somewhere else like the thread for tithes and offerings. Ummmm...please, next time, employ paragraphs.

Next up is Chapter 5: Should preachers prosper?

pickabeau1:
Gombs you have not answered all of my questions

I must have missed them or more importantly ignored some, but... I thought we were discussing Hagin's book not me being interviewed? The issue with answering some of these questions is that it tends to derail the thread and defeat the purpose of the thread via the book. Remember folks can take it to extremes, that's why I discourage mentioning churches and Preachers name.

Hagin didn’t, in all his 68years of ministry, he sure had good reasons. Folks are smart enough to judge for themselves in their local assembly, and pray or teach or ask their pastors questions.

trustman:
Suddenly Gombs is not answering questions directly again and has resorted to prayers.

Your Opinion!
Duly noted

feedthenation:
My goodness...this is pure and undiluted idolatry.

God and mammon (money) should not be mixed together.

It's beyond grief that only the 'prosperity preachers' are richly blessed, whilst their members keep floating their business empires.
Why is that their members are not living large in mansions, driving bentley cars, no private jets, shopping in exclusive boutiques and such likes..is our God a partial God?

Here's another link to one of them, http://www.bishopjordan.com/

Pray for the Church of God. Meanwhile, please, no names mentioning

vooks:
Ever witnessed any of these personally?

I'm not sure, not in my church though

Were you convinced that it was WRONG?
What did you do about it?

Refer to the above, I have no reason to lie, nor cover anyone

OLAADEGBU:
You were not patient enough to read the subsequent sentence which said:



He qualified what he meant by "hell" by saying "The Great White Throne Judgment."

Don't side step this one... from the OP, i read Hell (Lake of fire), i promptly asked, Ola, Hell and Lake of fire aint same, you need proof?

the above explanation did not answer my question