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Christianity Etc › Re: Atmosphere For Miracles 2014 With Pastor Chris- Today, October 4th 2014 by Gombs(op): 12:58pm On Oct 04, 2014
Kenny4lyfe:
UKZone2 will never be the same again!
@PastorKun why not go to the UK and witness the event yourself?
hahahahahaha.... that guy is somewhere in Lagos selling auto parts, how on earth do you want him to afford a trip to the UK? Anyways, he can write Sahara Reporters to go find out. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Atmosphere For Miracles 2014 With Pastor Chris- Today, October 4th 2014 by Gombs(op): 12:54pm On Oct 04, 2014
Nora o! grin grin grin

write a complaint to the UK Government, else sharaaaaap! Your rant on NL makes no difference beyond this site. grin

Christianity Etc › Atmosphere For Miracles 2014 With Pastor Chris- Today, October 4th 2014 by Gombs(op): 10:30am On Oct 04, 2014
Atmosphere For Miracles (AFM) is a daily webcast programme hosted by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD, the president of Believers LoveWorld Incorporated, aka Christ Embassy. Pastor Chris has touched millions of lives around the world with the healing power of God through the operation and gifts of the Holy Spirit. Through the AFM flagship programme, many receive the healing touch of God right in the comfort of their homes or any location they may be.

AFM provides the viewer the opportunity to relive the miracles, receive revelation of God’s word and experience the life-transforming moments. The programme usually features events and conferences that have been held and hosted in the Ministry worldwide in which the man of God operated diverse signs and wonders through the anointing power of the Holy Spirit.

The AFM programme also features highlights from the sessions of the world renowned Healing School. The Healing School in South Africa and Canada are where many who were given up for dead or were challenged with chronic conditions, receive and testify of their miraculous healing.

[size=20pt]But Is There Such A Thing As An ‘Atmosphere’ For Miracles?[/size]
The vision of the Believers LoveWorld is taking God's divine presence to the nations of the world and to demonstrate the character of the Holy Spirit. This is achieved through every available means, as the Ministry is driven by a passion to see men and women all over the world, come to the knowledge of the divine life made available in Christ Jesus. There is such a thing as the divine presence of God.

And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. Luke 5:17( KJV)
. In an atmosphere for miracle, the power of the Lord is present to heal; there is a strong move of the Spirit. This is because there is a corporate faith.

Christ Embassy UK Zone 2, in this year of Greatness, 2014, is hosting Atmosphere For Miracles at the Excel Centre giving everyone the opportunity to experience their own miracle whatever that miracle they desire may be. Atmosphere For Miracles has become a household name for many to tap into the glory of God’s power for their miracle.

1 Western Gateway, London E16 1XL, UK

for direction, click here https://www.google.com/maps/dir//51.5085,0.029846/@51.5082879,-0.0388073,12z/data=!3m1!4b1

Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:34am On Oct 04, 2014
nannymcphee: Who determines its relevance, YOU
Well, look around you...you're the only one remaining. grin

i simply asked him to show me where he stated it, you have shown me, so what's the big deal
I Showed you, you still wanted me to show you again...I did, now you're pained grin, Haba na, we are friends o

whether or not u agree with the word "proponent" your post all over NL will show that u are among Christians that use the "touch not"
Ok, I am, so what then? You gonna nail me? Teach me? What are you going to do about it? Ah...open threads and write on?..oya na cheesy

I know your type & I also know that someday the scales will fall off your eyes, I just hope it doesn't fall off too late
You don’t know my type... you don’t even have the faintest of idea...scales? Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha, fall off shey? Ok na, let's wait for one day. Too late? Muhehehhehehehe...ok, thanks for the wishes. wink

Since the thread has become irrelevant to you, kindly un follow
Done that already.. Please, make sure you don't quote me or mention me. Thanks, have a great life, and do keep praying the scales falls off my eyes. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 6:23am On Oct 04, 2014
Oyinprince: Wow , nothing can stop us. #WeTakingOver
That's right, taking over nations for Christ
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:12am On Oct 04, 2014
Humility: The Way To Greatness · Saturday, Oct 4th

Pastor Chris

...Truly I say to you, unless you repent (change, turn about) and become like little children [trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving], you can never enter the kingdom of heaven [at all]. Whoever will humble himself therefore and become like this little child [trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving] is greatest in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 18:3-4 AMP).

Great men and women are usually very humble. People who are puffed up or arrogant are never great. In fact, they’re puffed up because there isn’t anything great about them. Proverbs 18:12 says, "Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour is humility." James 4:6 also says, "But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."

Every child of God must be humble. Humility, however, doesn’t mean you’re foolish, neither does it mean stupidity. Humility is of the mind and of the heart; it’s of the inward man. You can know a humble man not just from the outside, but from the inside. True humility is submitting yourself to the Lordship of Jesus Christ through the Word. The Word of God is the only power that can get into your spirit to make the necessary adjustments. When you study the Word and let it guide your thoughts, actions and way of life, you’re automatically submitting to Jesus because He’s the Living Word.

God has destined you for greatness! As you get greater, be more humble. Small men are rough, brash and disrespectful. Never esteem yourself by your natural achievements or physical abilities; submit yourself instead, to the Word. Follow instructions and submit yourself to leadership. As you receive God’s Word and act accordingly, you become more humble, and your life becomes more glorious.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for the life of Christ in me. Thank you for the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, who teaches and guides me from within. Thank you for your Word that teaches me the importance of humility; it produces the result of what it talks about in me today, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Luke 9:48;And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

1 Peter 5:6 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 2:19-3:1-11 Isaiah 38-39
2Year Bible Reading Plan: Philemon 1:1-9 Jeremiah 52
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 9:55pm On Oct 03, 2014
nannymcphee: I don't want to start trading words with you!

image123 made it clear he wasn't a proponent meaning he doesn't use the term "touch not"

Proponents are those that support or propagate the use of something

so when did mbaemeka state that he doesn't use the phrase "touch not"

you only had a problem with the word "proponent" but it doesn't change the fact that you support the use of "touch not "

So again when did mbaemeka CLEARLY state that he doesn't use "touch not"
Are you now blinded with bianess?

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Going by what Image123 had already said when David had the opportunity to kill Saul he refused to and when one of his soldiers offered to do it David called Saul "the Lord's annointed". Remember that David too was the Lord's anointed (and even more anointed than Saul if I may add) but when he learned about Saul's death he exclaimed "How are the mighty fallen?" before he instructed his men not to tell the story amongst the Heathens (Garth in the context).

He didn't call Saul a demon-possessed Charlatan or fraud that God had punished. Instead with tears he queried why such a mighty man had fallen so ignominiously.I am not a proponent of anything except I declare unequivocally that I am. Just thought to add that.
Ma'am, face it... this thread is now irrelevant. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 9:36pm On Oct 03, 2014
Azibalua: NA wa oh some people can never see good in anything.
It is well
Glory to God
It's indeed a year of greatness for us.
The remedy is ignoring them,. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 9:29pm On Oct 03, 2014
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Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 7:48pm On Oct 03, 2014
Joagbaje: When I said the First Lady be our member and she was in the partners conference last year in lagos , them say na lie . Now no be just First Lady , the first man don join. Many of their household members recieved healing in the healing school
One day, this would be tye testimony in India, China, North Korea, Middle East etc...Glory to God!
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 7:43pm On Oct 03, 2014
nannymcphee: I'm sorry, pls when did you tell me you are not a "proponent"?

Are you image123?

Becos he is the only one that stated that?
https://www.nairaland.com/1917847/proponents-touch-not-anointed#26584954

cool

I also objected to the term 'proponents'
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 7:02pm On Oct 03, 2014
WinsomeX: Congratulations
On? undecided

Praise the Lord bro!

ichuka: Lol, Some folks will never learn. Christainity has nothing to do with commercialization.
See them o grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Believers Loveworld! Building A Happier World With Love by Gombs(m): 5:12pm On Oct 03, 2014
I'm here now... hubreality, where are you?

Let's get this thread moving
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy by Gombs(m): 5:10pm On Oct 03, 2014
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 4:49pm On Oct 03, 2014
Joagbaje: Don't mind all these our nairalanders and their lies . Just like the bible says they deceived and being deceived .

2 Timothy 3:13
" But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."
Hahahahahah, I like the way Pastor Chris minds his business... truly, results speaks louder than words. Just wait a while, same folks who praised the same SA government of 5years back, will still be the ones nailing that same government today. Wait for them.
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 3:42pm On Oct 03, 2014
olu77: You like the boss like way pastor Chris lead them abi? Me I like the humility of president Zuma and his wife. There is always something godly beautiful about humble people.
Hmmm grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Before Marriage Sells Your Soul…. by Gombs(m): 3:19pm On Oct 03, 2014
100% Endorsed
Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op): 2:52pm On Oct 03, 2014
I Reserved the first and Second spot for the pics tongue

Wonderful hall and stage design...#Class #Excellence

Christianity Etc › Re: South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op):
I Like the pic where Pastor Chris was leading the President of SA and his team like a boss he is.. cool

Christianity Etc › South Africans Vow To Sack Christ Embassy-5 Years Down The Line by Gombs(op):
“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”
― Mark Twain

Mark Twain must have had a clear knowledge of what he was talking about many many years back. His experience is no different from our world today. 5 years ago, news went flying in the media, and as usual folks find news about selected entities to be juicy and assimilate it all, irrespective of how silly they may sound, majorly fueled by a weird hate for the said entity.

The media were at their best as they wrote that the SA government (or South Africans) vowed to sack Believers' Loveworld aka Christ Embassy. Maybe true, maybe not, but this became a lifeline for other terrible stories to be told too. A pidgin adage says "Na when Elephant die, na him you go see different kind of knives". Noteworthy, CE Church never responded to such claims or stories, they went on their usual business, praying. Read the news here

https://www.nairaland.com/257690/south-africans-vow-sack-christ

Fast forward 5 years later, the story has changed, and the words of Aldous Huxley comes to mind readily “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” The First Lady of SA, the wife of His excellency, President Jacob Zuma was in IPPC 2013, in Lagos Nigeria. Folks made gest of her, called her gullible and brainwashed. Some however chose to say CEC were always interested in "vain glory", some said they are all same thing, corrupt people, etc.

Well, almost a year later, the Southern African Leaders' and Partners' Conference 2014 hosted the presence of His Excellency, the President of South Africa, and his wife, the First Lady, who were warmly received with great shouts of excitment by the delegate. In the 3rd and penultimate session, peaking up with each progressive revalation and teaching, the meeting was yet to reach another resplendent climax as Pastor Chris invited President Jacob Zuma to the Podium to address the congregant.

Interestingly, folks hit on Zuma and Oyakhilome! Well, that's another story for another day. Oscar Wilde said “Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.” 5 years down the line, the story changed, the same SA government who vowed to sack CEC (whether the story is true of false is another day's story) are ow 'brainwashed'? undecided

It's simply clear here that little minds only talk about people, and that prayer changes everything, for the weapons of our warfare should not be carnal, but might through God, to pull down strongholds, casting down imaginations and everything that rises itself against the knowledge of God... It does not matter how many your opposition are, it don't matter how terrible the winds are, quit talking about the problems, start praying about them.

It is my prayer that South Africa will be greater if her leaders are, and the knowledge of God's Word will rest on the leaders of SA, causing rapid growth and stability as God has ordained.

Thank God for Jesus!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 6:41am On Oct 03, 2014
WinsomeX aka Drummaboy, Sir John, what sayeth thou? Anyway, you lot have nothing to say, in boxing, what mba did is called KO...

1. We now know who the liar is between HS and Kenyan.
2. We now know why she lost her healing, from the commentary of John 5:14
3. Vooks, were you sent here to diverge attention from what we are discussing here? We don't want to visit the thread you are in, and...Please, I prefer your former moniker to this.
4. It is now on record for the whole world to see why some folks don't get healed in the HS and thus get bitter, or why some loose it because of their lifestyle.
5. I hereby announce, that having done my bit, and mba nailing the last nail on the coffin...I take my leave. It's been a pleasure excavating the truth which was well hidden just to promote self pity and project lies from hell.

If anyone needs my opinion on the matter, use my email address below. Kenyan, God will visit you, be truthful and honest with yourself, for you cannot lie to God and yourself.

May God's Spirit rest on you all! Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:06am On Oct 03, 2014
Our Heavenly Pedigree · Friday, October 3rd

Pastor Chris

But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives… (Philippians 3:20 NLT).

When you were born again, you became a bona fide citizen of heaven. You’re from the government of Zion, functioning in the earth as heaven’s ambassador. The Spirit of God plainly emphasized this through the writings of the Apostle Paul to the Church. Ephesians 1:21 says Jesus Christ has been set in the place of authority in the heavenly realms, not just above or near above, but "far" above all principality, and power; that is, every rulership or government, and the authority by which they govern.

The Wuest Translation renders it beautifully: it says Christ is seated "…over and above every government and authority and power and lordship...." You might say, "Yes, that’s Jesus, but how does that connect me?" Ephesians 2:1-6 gives us the connection. Part of it says, "And you hath he quickened…together with Christ, (by grace ye are savedwink...And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus." Notice your current location: you’ve been raised up together, and made to sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

This, therefore, means you’re from the government of heaven; you’re over and above every rulership or government, and the authority by which they govern. It doesn’t matter where you go in this world; wherever you find yourself, be conscious of your heavenly pedigree. When I go out, whether from one country to another or within an environment, I’m always conscious that I’m from the government of heaven. Carry that consciousness as well. You’re not an ordinary person.

Look beyond your natural citizenship, the country of your earthly nativity, to Zion, the real country of your birth. Psalms 87:4-5 shows that you were born in Zion. You’re far removed from the influences of demons, wickedness, perils and debilitating forces in this world.

Confession...
I’m seated with Christ in the place of authority, over and above every government, authority, power, lordship and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the one to come. I’m over and above all circumstances of life, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Ephesians 2:1-6;
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are savedwink

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Matthew 17:5;
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Psalm 87:4-5
4 I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there.

5 And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 2:1-18 Isaiah 35-37
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Titus 3:1-15 Jeremiah 51
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 9:18pm On Oct 02, 2014
Larow: I believe in miracles
Amen bro! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 9:16pm On Oct 02, 2014
mbaemeka: I don't know why I am being robed into this. Are you referring to the same husband that you said she dated for 8years till she attended the healing school yet she concealed her HIV positive status from him and even lied to him about her trip to SA or are you referring to the same lady who was in perfect health and had undetectable viral loads but kept going from church to church, crusade to crusade yet she got no miracle? I wonder why she needed one when she was already in tiptop shape even before going to the HS.

I also wonder why she consented to lying that she was (or wasn't) healed or why she faked falling under the anointing when she actually went there to get healed? Why didn't she just insist she was already healed and object to lying or why did she stay on if her faith had already healed her before she met Pastor Chris?


The fact is- if she could lie to her husband for 8 years thereby putting him at risk. If she could agree to lie that she wasn't healed so they could claim she was healed after meeting Pastor Chris. If she could pretend that she fell under the anointing. If she could lie to us all in 2010-2012 consistently (and unsolicitedly) that she was healed and in perfect health. Then she could very much be telling another lie now which only means that those who choose to believe her are doing so not minding how duplicitous (and initiated by bile) her newfangled stories are. But I am not surprised because when a man has made up his mind to hang his dog, even a thread used for sewing would be more than sufficient for him.
Hmm.... Dear Lord Jesus shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 1:45pm On Oct 02, 2014
Work calls, see you all in the evening.

Cheers
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 1:37pm On Oct 02, 2014
Kenyan28: Gombs, I have noticed, not once nor twice, that you ignore/fear Sir Johns comments if not questions. Why cant you respond to his reply above?
He has spoken about FALSE NEGATIVES and the like, what do you say?
Cry me a river! undecided cry
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 1:34pm On Oct 02, 2014
WinsomeX: In other words being HIV positive is to be possessed by demons. Very ingenious.
In other words, Kenyan has far worse state than she was. And yes, all diseases are demonic. Jesus casted out demons, folks got well...do the math.

Yes. It is possible. If you have the misfortune of patronizing fake miracle workers like Pastor Chris Oyakhilome or the likes of Prophet T.B. Joshua.
In other words, Jesus was fake? undecided
Typical pharisee grin

Bitterness? I laugh! Look in the mirror... What do you see? Yeah,... That's right. That's the person whose bile, bitterness and frustration is leading him to open threads unending to cover the shame and failures of his idol. That's the person that is bitter, my friend and the earlier you seek some help for it the better for you.
*falls of desk laughing to the restroom grin

Don't worry other unhealed and scanned folks will soon grace this thread. I hope you will believe them
Oh really? You guys should form a union o! grin
I'd be off this thread by tomorrow, I've written enough, bare for folks to judge by themselves. No need being further here to debate with you, if anyone needs my opinion on the matter, visit my signature for details wink

You are welcome. It doesn't remove from your pathetic and sorry state.

[b]My interaction with the Kenyan does not go beyond Nairaland pages. [/b]I could easily PM her but I don't need it. But what has come out of your own private conversation with her? Nothing. And you now want to use me as substitute for your failures?
Heheheheheh, save your stories for the gods. grin

I laugh in Spanish.

Like one of my friends here said to me, I say to you: "I have no comments on monickers..."

Rather than continually obsessing yourself with what monicker is used or not used, if you have any confidence in your intellectual ability, respond to the issues raised by whatever monicker. Use a million monickers to defend your idol Chris; it would not change the public's perception of him as a charlatan and a fraud.
Eyaaaah...see another level...lying already with this new monicker? Let me bookmark this, I can pull it out in even 3years time.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 1:23pm On Oct 02, 2014
Viewing this topic: AlfaSelltzer, Gombs(m), WinsomeX, Seun(m), LambanoPeace, PastorKun(m)

Baba, mo wa loyal gan! grin

I dobaale joor
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 1:07pm On Oct 02, 2014
SirJohn: @Gombs,
Good, I see you have tactically evaded my question and I'd like to infer that you do not have the answer.

Like I said earlier, let me pretend to agree with you that Kenyan28 was healed at the healing school.
She stayed 'healed' until she got married in Dec 2010, I remember then she kept making 'faith proclamations'. She later got pregnant, carried the baby for nine months and was still 'healed', she gave birth to her child and was still healed.

When did her doubts start?

Her baby started showing signs of illness and even then she still did not know what was wrong. When her baby was tested, the result was shocking HIV+ How??


How could a HIV negative mother who conceived a child after testing negative give birth to a HIV positive child? undecided

is it not therefore safe to conclude that the mother was HIV positive all the while? What does this say about the test in Randburg that turned out negative? its very simple, it was a 'false negative' result. I dare say that if a follow test had been carried out in a Lab it most certainly would have turned out positive. But Kenyan28 never did any other test even after several warnings till her baby was tested positive, if that was not an act of 'faith' tell me what else is.



Just in case you didn't know, the type of test she did that turned out to be negative has some degree of inaccuracy and incidence of false negatives. please take time out to read this:



Again I ask you Gombs, if some of us came here back in 2010 and warned her of this kind of outcome and even accurately predicted the turn of events, don't you think it goes to show we know something you don't? please give it a thought! wink





So except anyone wants to be dishonest, it is clear that this lady was lured into accepting a false hope but God intervened.

@Gombs, your interview didn't reveal anything new, it only brought out the facts that we all know which is that Kenyan28 has had three different stance on this one isssue.

First - "I was healed...I know I am healed"

Secondly - "Why is the healing not permanent?... I was healed"

And then lastly - "I was not healed"

I honestly wonder why the progression of her stance is an issue to you as this is the normal progression of stance for anyone who has been scammed. I will give you an example, I once invested in a dubious pyramid scheme, but at the time I invested in it, I had no idea it was a scam. I remember the CBN even did a full page warning in one of the national daily's warning people not to invest their funds in the scheme. But I felt the CBN was just blabbing; I read testimonies of different people who supposedly made a fortune out of the scheme so I bought in completely to it. At one time, one of the schemes paid me 300% on an investment and I said wow, this must be real, I later invested over a million naira into the scheme and decided to wait for my returns. 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 10 weeks passed yet no returns. Some of my friends who warned me later started asking if I had received my profit; of course I made excuses for the company. I told them payments were delayed due to backlog of previous payments. gradually, weeks turned into months and it gradually began to sink in that I had just been a victim of one of the worlds oldest scam, 'the pyramid scheme.' Today, I have absolutely no doubt in my heart that I was scammed.
You see, its the same progression of stance; if tomorrow someone who heard me defend the scheme comes to me with a similar business proposal and I say, 'No, sorry I can't invest, I did it before and I was scammed' will he say oh but you said it wasn't a scam back then?

You told her to confess her 'faith', she did and now you've turned against her pulling out the same confessions you taught her to say which I warned her about.

The conclusion is very simple and I don't think I will waste another time discussing this in details again. She was never healed because if she was, her child would not have turned out to be positive. For her child to have tested positive, it means the mother was positive for the virus. SIMPLE!
I answered your question, I answered thus
that said, i have no detail of her personal life, her number one reason for loosing the healing is not far fetched from the above, eg what was her life like with her fiance before marriage? alot could be, only she can say, it's between her and God. but it is certain one can loose their healing.
My answer was linked to the commentary, how then did you conclude the question wasn't answered? Oh, you did not see what you liked, shebi? grin

Email her to gist you about her life after healing, prior to marriage, then after child birth, then other personal details. The child turned positive because the mother was? grin, what about the husband? Was he using condoms or they had artificial insemination, or he was very careful to sleep with a HIV patient? shocked his faith must be strong sha o! Now, be a gentle man and answer my question, is it possible to loose one's healing? If yes, why? If no, explain John 5:14 pls.

The interview was not to give you or her new facts, but to lay them bare for readers who missed the whole things in years past. I wish she did not delete most posts...that too is a pointer you know?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 12:51pm On Oct 02, 2014
mbaemeka: Vooks or BabaGnoni or whatever he calls himself these days should stop mentioning me in his posts. If he wants my attention he should follow the right means and I just might oblige him. It is not my fault that he thinks Eve slept with a serpent or that medical science has replaced the name of Jesus to the church. It is also not my fault that he doesn't understand God's word and interacting with me has exposed him thus far. He should stop using underhand tactics to force me to teach him. If he just asks politely I might teach him.

Good going bro Gombs. Been reading in 3D!
Thanks buddy! Folks mailing thinking I'm actually a lawyer grin
I'm glad some thinking caps are finally on. How your RON be na? wink
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 12:48pm On Oct 02, 2014
Candour: Can you imaginehuh There goes my confidence of being in ghost mode and couldn't be seen angry

I'm fine by the way and the family is doing great too. Trust you're good? Meanwhile, focus on the trial balance properly o. We don't want to hear of another bank crash because of faulty balance sheet reportage.

My friend Gombs the lawyer grin grin

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Thanks buddy! Have a great day cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 12:47pm On Oct 02, 2014
WinsomeX: if the author of that commentary means what you want us to believe, then you and your commentator are in error. And you can be because you are human and fallible.

The contention until you brought up the commentary on John 5 was whether a healing can be lost. You provided that scripture and the commentary to prove your point that healing can be lost or in other words, there can be a relapse of the illness. My point, along with others, is that John 5 where Jesus said something worse does not mean a loss of healing or a relapse. Something worse means some other worse thing, other than that illness, can befall the individual.
Your problem is poor knowledge of the Word or complete ignorance. See, get a study bible, open John 5:14, you'd see 3 references to what Jesus meant by 'something worse..."
They are;
Mat 12:45 Joh 8:11 Luk 11:26
Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation


From the bold, it's evident, except you are blind or dyslexic which obviously is being clearer, it's evident Jesus said LAST STATE is WORSE than the first... obviously same illness, but with higher destructive nature due to the spirits. Use the tissue in your head to apply it to Kenyan case.

But, answer, is it possible to loose one's healing?

This points must be properly thrashed out because you are looking for a lame excuse for why Chris failed to heal the Kenyan. This was the same idiotic excuse Joagbaje brought forth when she first came saying she was not healed. Now, even if for a second we accept that the Kenyan lost her healing to sin; what about all the others, many of whom are dead now? They also returned to their sins?
Try to separate bitterness from your discuss! Do you live with others? That's assuming they ever existed? I can as well claim I know a thousand folks who went to the HS and are very alive and well today.

You guys are pathetic!
That's for the compliment, grin grin your shoddy job as a counsellor to Kenyan28 is the prime of your ineptitude using this your new moniker, your old moniker was so embarrassing to even yourself you had to change it. Those who live in glass Houses don't throw stones. You are a perfect blueprint for pathetic folks.

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