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Fellas gotta go now, reports for the 3rd quarter aint gonna prepare themselves, I'd need 2hours break, further questions and opinions can be dropped here. Thanks, would attend to them whenever I'm back.

Bros Candour, I see you! Good morning, I hope you and fam folks are well?

WinsomeX: Gombs, Where in that whole commentary did the author say or imply "relapse".

Granted they said that the healing was imperfect as you outlined in blue:




But this imperfect must be seen in the light of further explanation as the one below:




"Imperfect" must therefore be seen as the possibility of something worse happening and not a relapse.

Or else the author is claiming, Christ, and God, cannot carry out a perfect miracle or are imperfect. If this is the opinion of the author, we have all the right to discard the whole commentary as another opinion of fallible men.

wait your turn buddy! your biasness is resounding though. Now it is relapse shey? no longer loss of healing. no wonder you folks don't want to answer whether it is possible to loose one's healing. see how they are clinging to "Jesus said something worse than, He did not mean relapse/same illness".

buncha funny fellas , as for the above, point where the author remotely suggested that. Compare what you said with what the author wrote

The healing was, at least, imperfect [size=25pt]until [/size]the man had learned its spiritual significance. Every gift of God is doubled in value when its source is recognized. God's signature on his own mercies gives them their true meaning.

that is why they teach folks in the healing school...the spiritual significance of their healing and retaining it because the devil would come question your faith about it

vooks: Gombs,
Jesus said something WORSE not the SAME illness will come back.
This is an extremely dumb interpretation to justify 'lost healings'

sir, from John 5:14, what could have been worse than 38years of illness? 76years? come on bro!

is she not worse than she was?

now, join the queue, wait your turn

WinsomeX: Gombs, please answer my questions too o.

wait your turn buddy

SirJohn: Thanks for the compliment, now its your turn to be a gentleman
I asked you a question, answer my question first then I'll answer yours. Its okay if you don't have the answer to the question, just get off your high horse and simply say "I don't know" period

Ok, I would assume you know the answer, which is yes, one can loose it, and for various reasons. Consider pulpit commentary for John 5:14

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.Verse 14. - After these things (see ver. 1). Westcott thinks that a looser connection between the foregoing and subsequent events is denoted by μετὰ ταῦτα than by the expression μετὰ τοῦτο.. Consequently, the persecution referred to in the remainder of the chapter may have occurred several days after the foregoing conversation. 

Jesus found him in the temple. Some have inferred from this, the recognition by the healed man of the hand of God in his cure, and his desire to express his gratitude in the house of God by some appropriate conduct or service; and, granting this explanation, much charm is observable in the tact that Jesus found him. and found him there. The Lord's habit of visiting the temple, and the penetrating glance which he casts over all the frequenters of his Father's house might then fairly be deduced from the passage; but the motive of the man is quite conjectural.

From the words of Jesus one might as reasonably suppose that the man was treading at the time on dangerous moral ground, making some kind of gain from his notoriety. The healing was, at least, imperfect until the man had learned its spiritual significance. Every gift of God is doubled in value when its source is recognized. God's signature on his own mercies gives them their true meaning. Christ found the healed man in the precincts of the temple, whether his motive was pure or mixed in going thither. 

And he said unto him, Beheld, thou art made whole (hast become sound and healthy throughout thy physical system; cf. for the form of this description of his case, the query, ver. 6): no longer continue to sin. The form of the sentence points to something special and persistent in this man's habits, rather than to the general corruption of human nature.

Christ's penetrating glance discovered all the hidden misery and bleeding wound and putrefying sore of the man's soul. Apart from the obliteration of the consequences of his bad life, and without a clean and free condition of things, the future would have proved hopeless, and deliverance from the yoke of fear and concupiscence impossible; but now this new chance is given. He was made whole, born again physically. As Naaman's flesh became like that of a little child, so this man - once bent, crippled, distorted by his self-indulgence, and now made whole - is to "sin no longer."

It would not be reasonable to conclude from this that Christ's doctrine, like that of Job's friends, involved the indissoluble connection of sin with sickness, or made the amount of pain in any case the criterion of individual sin. Our Lord repudiates this position in John 9:3 and in Luke 13:1-5; but special calamities have unquestionably followed wrong doing, and can, in many instances, be referred to obvious transgressions, to specific acts, or inveterate habits.

The man's own conscience would respond to the charge. Jesus added: Lest a worse thing befall thee. There is, then, something worse than thirty-eight years of apparently hopeless wretchedness! Jesus said, even as reported by the apostle of love, the most terrible things that ever fell from human lips. The "sin no longer" makes it seem as though man's will could accomplish much (cf. Isaiah 1:16, "Cease," etc.), and as though all the future of our life were, so far as human responsibility goes, dependent upon ourselves. We are to act as if it were.

Let it be noticed that he who said, "Sin no more," said, "Rise up, take thy bed, and walk." Three things, which appeared utterly beyond the power of the impotent man, were, nevertheless, done by him through the grace of Christ, which he then and there appropriated.

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/pulpit/john/5.htm

that said, i have no detail of her personal life, her number one reason for loosing the healing is not far fetched from the above, eg what was her life like with her fiance before marriage?

alot could be, only she can say, it's between her and God. but it is certain one can loose their healing.

SirJohn: @Gombs,
please tell the world at what point you think Kenyan28 lost her healing...

Granny, you haven't answered from my post whether it was possible to loose one's healing as Jesus pointed out. An honest answer would set my answer to your question in motion.

Now, it's you and I discussing, I'd be glad to discuss with you too. I'm done with Kenyan, now I've time for you. Thanks alot for being patient all through my interview with Kenyan, you are indeed a gentle man.

Kenny4lyfe: [b] It was yet another wonderful moment and believe me ROR street to street/house to house distribution is getting more interesting. So far my group has covered about 75% of our target area and mehn it keeps getting more and more comical

An example was a guy I approached with a copy of free ROR and he was like-
What? I thought Pastor Chris don finally fall?
I said- No sir! Pastor Chris dey kampe!

A youth corp member who's a known atheist in my catchment area was approached by a lady from my group.
He was like- I no want am! Wetin ona wan do with my number?
Immediately I showed up on the scene, his face lightened up.
I was like- Bros long time no see (I'd invited him to super sunday earlier this year and he attended but declined to get born again). Knowing that we might get into another endless debate about the authenticity of God's sovereign presence in all things, he immediately surrendered.
Oya put my write my number. Zero eight zero...", he chorused his contact out loud!

Another was a lady who refused to share her phone number so I gave her a copy anyway. A moment later after going through one or two topics in the ROR she yelled- "Come collect my number!"
Wish I could share pictures but not now. Maybe later! [/b]

Powered by the Holy Ghost... i sent my foot soldiers out yesterday, we distributed 1,200 copies... we gon prepare for arial bombardment (kabashing), the send more foot soldiers to finish off the job

[quote author=Kenyan28]

It does not matter what I have said in the past, healed, faulty kit, temporary healing etc.

It does matter maam...it does.ifnwe can't believe what you said then, why should we now?

I am here today the 2nd day of October 2014 to tell the truth that I WAS NEVER HEALED.

You were here few years back with a date and telling us another truth that you were healed, you even sang a song and said Jesus same yesterday, today and forever, you would still have if you retained your miracle, no?

Gombs, If I ever felt/convinced that there was healing in CE,that I was healed and may be lost it, I WOULD HAVE FLOWN BACK TO THE HEALING SCHOOL to get it back, a flight to SA is a very small fraction of my current salary

You were convinced you were healed, but when the symptoms came back, rather than seek solutions, you came here and some folks who were aiding to deny your healing
Were present to take you the other way. If you can fly to SA, why didn't you then? Ah! You had to warn the world HS was a scam first. Fine, now we are here, HS just concluded in Canada, Pastor Chris is still doing 'scams' and yiu are still typing your stories. You see how you conveniently dodged my question?

...but not after I have witnessed several people who attended the healing school before and after me die of the same ailments!!

Your opinion! Thanks so much for your time. It was a great pleasure. Say me hi to your daughter, and I pray you find God and his healing by faith in the strangest of ways.
Amen

SirJohn: @Gombs, now that you are done with your questions can you please answer mine...

At what point do you think she lost the healing?

Sir, Please she hasn't, well... before that, let me give a prelude to the answer.

John 5:14
But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, "Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.


1. A man got healed
2. Jesus said the above to him

I want to ask, is it then possible from the above, that one can lose a healing miracle? From the above, why is it possible?

Kenyan28: Did I mention about a lady from Canada who visited the healing school BUT never turned negative a bit?? Its just a matter of time and she will be here to say it wall, watch this space.

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Ok ma'am, I'd wait too...would also love an interview with her.

Kenyan28: When didi I "call" for an end of the interview

Was this what I wrote or what you saw I wrote?

Well let me bring out some of the things you have told me in our PM. Mr. Gombs, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU ASKED ME (IN OUR PM) IF THE INTERVIEW IS NECESSARY?? What were my responses? I'm one woman who is not a COWARD. I have answered ALL you questions, but you have been going rounds and rounds asking the same question.

That's what cops do, a change in tone, and especially stories gives one up. You've told your stories in different forms, and if asked in another 4 years time, you'd still change stand. I did not bother reply DB (your counsellor) because he only gave reasons why your tone should change, and why you are where you are now, regretting-playing the public sympathybcard again, if this were a court room, his post is what we'd call slam dunk in basket ball for the persecution counsel.

I'm not saying you are a coward, I actually admire your ability to change stories, you think you've answered all my questions? Ok, let's leave that for future viewers to decide. Now, one final question session ma'am.

Are you of the opinion that the healing school is a scam base? If yes, like you preseumed, would you take an oath, between you and God who judges all and say confidently, without an iota of doubt, that nothing spiritual and healing takes place there?

I await your answer, which I hope won't be vague as the rest.

SirJohn: @Barr Okafor AKA Gombs,
I have just one question for you
Let me pretend to agree with you that Kenyan28 was healed and then later lost the healing, my question is:

At what point do you think she lost the healing?

Barr Okafor? That's a new one. I think i like it...also like the fact folks be trying to find details about me too , you really had to go to my twitter account? ...and thought i was dumb enough to type my full names there? Well, I prefer it spelt O'Caffor, it's a nick name in school, you can adopt it too ... Buddy, hang on, i have just one more question for her. Thank you, happy independence day

Sow The Right Words Into Your Life · Thursday, October 2nd

Pastor Chris

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap (Galatians 6:7).

The Lord Jesus, in narrating the parable of the sower said, "A sower went out to sow his seed…" (Luke 8:5). Then in the eleventh verse, He explained that the seed the sower sowed was the Word of God, letting us know that words are seeds.

We read in our opening verse that what you sow is what you reap. If you sow good seeds (the right words) into your life, they’ll produce the right results. You can’t sow corn seeds, for instance, and expect to harvest mangos; every seed reproduces after its kind. So, the question is, what words are you sowing into your life?

Words come to us when we listen to other people, in messages that we receive from our environment, what we read, watch etc. These words become seeds that are sown into our lives, reproducing the character that we become. Who you are today is not an accident; it’s the result of all the seeds (words) that have been sown into you all your life: by those who took care of you while you were growing up, your environment, the schools you attended, and all the information you received through your senses of hearing and sight. How these words got into you isn’t so important; what’s important is that they did, and today you’re the result of those words.

If those words (seeds) weren’t the right ones, and you want to make adjustments, you have to introduce new "seeds." You can’t make the adjustment by crying or regretting; you can only do so by sowing the right words into you. Sow words of joy, peace and love, and you’ll reap the same. Your life goes in the direction of your words. If your words are excellent, your life will be excellent.

Stop your heart and ears from the wrong words. The only words you should allow take root in your heart are words that inspire, lift, bless and stir you in the direction of God’s perfect will.

Confession

The Lord perfects that which concerns me! I’m the expression of His glory, grace, wisdom and righteousness. I walk in preordained pathways today, and I make progress by the Word, living triumphantly to the glory of His Name. Amen.

Further Study:
John 15:7; If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

1 year Bible Reading Plan: Philippians 1:1-30 Isaiah 33-34
2 year Bible Reading Plan: Titus 2:1-15 Jeremiah 50

Oyinprince: ^^ Brother abeg ignore those people jare. How was reach our Nigeria at your place.




Here it was awesome, the ish here is that I've been trying to reduce the mb of my pictures so I fit upload and no one wan free reduce reach 250mb

Me too o, dem picture too large

Ok, Alfa and DB, off the books, please I would answer this once...

Kenyan brought up that, she could as well have said she saw healthy folks asked to pretend to be sick...it's her word against the Healing School's. Question however is, if after testing negative, and the hospital said so, and she knew she was because it could not have been window period, she now was put on the healing line 14days later, and instructed/forced (her words) to lie that she got -ve after Pastor Chris ministered to her...,

1. It beats my imagination that a healthy person was asked 14days after to stand on the healing line.

2. Lie to who? The world or the visitors at the healing school?

3. When testifying to who, the world or herself?

This should put in perspective her words, she said she was healed, then later she said the fact was that she was healed but 'short lived', then later, I wasn't healed, i have the feeling the kit was expired, to it was expired kits, to I was fooled, now...I was instructed/ forced to lie?

If this were a court room, and I'm the persecution counsel, I'd have nailed the coffin on day one... you both might wanna check this out
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+testimony

Wow! Tis been a tough day, glad to be back.

After careful reading of investigative books and watching their movies, I can confidently say I learnt alot to experiment on you. Your sudden change in tone and indirect calling for an end to the interview proves one thing- a desperate attempt to reconcile past staments with current. I can't say you are lying, but I can confidently say you are fsr from the truth.

Kunle' s post was an answer to a question he asked me, and it was not used to support my questions, the posts you posted were however to support your answer which did no address the corresponding quesion. You used it to play the regret card, a stunt a prosecution counsel would immediately object and the judge would sustain it, why it is inadmissible in any sane courtroom.

Your personal attack on the interviewer or persecution counsel is a game changer, it proves something, likened to the scene of a drowning man who needs every strain of hope to stay alive.

I remember vividly where you gave answers, 5 for a 4 question thing, and you gave a reason, that was a lady in high morale, but the last part of today's post where you indirectly raised a white flag is also worth noting, remember, we aren't trying to convince each other here.

As for the Romania you met, how come you didn't share this in all the six years the thread has been on? If you did, please show me them, I'd need to scrutinise the post. However, let's move on as you as usual dodged the question, "what your experience was in the healing school".

Second to the last questin ma'am, feel free to walk away any time...

Again, if I tested -ve, there was no need for me to re-test again after 6 months since I was not in the HIV window period but had lived with it for 8 years.

[size=16pt]The fact is, there was healing [/size] that was short lived not to mention about my cancer long dead friends.My question is, why isnt it permanent?[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/49#12742073

The above bold got me thinking, did you lie about the above bold too? For obviously you were not in the Window period, but an experienced person living with H I V as you described yourself in another post, the enlarged though is very striking, can you explain what the above bold and enlarged meant? Were you also paranoid when you typed them?

Kenyan28: Look who is talking, between you and I who has brought up other peoples posts?? I have answered ALL your questions. I did not not tell you what you expected to hear though.

I only brought up your posts, and I spoke to you about them in the mail I sent you, why being crafty now? You actually told me what I wanted to hear....a change of stance , and playing the had-I-known card!

Anyways, my next question is, you said in time pass that you knew you were healed, but didn't know why it didn't last, and now, you are saying you were never healed. Alright, but Like Sir John, did you also notice the scam he 'saw' at the HSSA? You said you were healed without a touch from Pastor Chris, can you please furnish us with brief but well detailed writ about your experience at the HSSA?

Kenyan28: I am here. I thought my responses led to your next question(s), how do u know that u have ""3"" more questions?

Because you didn't attempt to answer the last two articulately, but rather brought up posts of someone else and wallow in 'had-I-Known.

It's gonna be a long day for me... it's Reach Out Nigeria 2014, I've gotta be on the streets, but will breeze in at intervals

Angels On Patrol! · Wednesday, October 1st

There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone (Psalms 91:10-12).

In the days of Abraham, the Bible tells us how, in the city of Sodom, the people were wicked and indulged in all kinds of evil practices. God, seeing the wickedness in Sodom, sent two angels to destroy the city: "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground" (Genesis 19:1).

Do you realize that as Christians, we can invite angels through our prayers, and have them patrol our streets and cities as they did in Bible days? We can pray and stall the efforts and actions of wicked men in different cities and nations. Yes, we can.

The Bible says, "Are they (angels) not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" (Hebrews 1:14). Through angelic activities, initiated by our prayers, we can ensure that the perpetrators of evil and confusion are delivered into the hands of the law and decisive actions are taken against them. We must refuse to act as victims, and not sit idly by when Satan and his cohorts are on the rampage in towns, cities, and villages around the world. We can thwart their efforts.

Imagine that pandemonium breaks out in your neighbourhood and people are scampering for their lives as a result of an onslaught or a drive-by shooting. Are you going to be running like everyone else, with the presence of the Holy Spirit in your life? There’s a better way to all of these; it’s prayer. It’s about time we prayed correctly as Christians, to wield our authority in Christ, invoking angelic ministration in our cities and nations. God is counting on us for this, and we must act.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for always causing us to triumph in Christ and make manifest the savour of His knowledge and glory in every place. By the power of the Holy Spirit, I’ll put the Word to work in prayer and frustrate the activities of Satan in my city and nation. Thank you, Lord, for this revelation in the Word, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:

2 Corinthians 2:14; Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1 year bible reading plan: Ephesians 6:10-24 Isaiah 31-32

2 year bible readding plan: Titus 1:1-16 Jeremiah 49

mbaemeka: What is all this?

A good example for nattering sod of negativism

Kay17: The allegiance to one State makes you an enemy with another. Merely wishing a city or your neighbour prosperity does not equate to allegiance to the State. A crucial example is the number of German Christians that fought and defended the Nazi Regime (an epitome of Evil). Wouldn"t you consider that an error??

Bible says we should ALL laws of man... ie all laws you find in a city, town, country.. obey, if you don't like the laww, pray for a change or move out

Boss13: The woman has told you and I dont know what more you want. She was not healed. Please drop this matter. I have happy that this thread can be discovered once you google healing school. What it then means is that whoever enters the Christ Embassy Healing School does so at his/her own peril and not because he/she was not warned.

Also, I am shocked that Joagbaje is yet to resume and defend himself. Na him I dey wait for. All these fake pastors roaming around looking for whom they will devour.

hush son!

Kenyan28: Its past 5pm here, working hours are over. @Gombs, are u through with your questions? I want to leave.
I am a wife and a mother, my family needs me. I have access to internet 24/7 but after work + weekends, I give my family time. In fact I read ALL comments on this thread before I go to bed...EVERY DAY!

3 more ma'am, we would continue tomorrow. thanks

Jerryolumide: boss i tot u guys were don with dis issue??

Yes sir, we are. I'm not trying to convince her, but lay facts side by side for those who'd not be able to read the whole thread. I just have 3 more questions though

Kenyan28: I wasn't healed, I said here, there are several advises that I ignored including from the nurses who tested me "negative" they said I should go for another test and even highlighted it on my test results which I never did. My 2 Kenyan friends dint test negative a bit even after visiting the healing school. I have a feeling that the nurses were aware that their kit was faulty, the more reason they emphasized that I should carry more tests.

I have been symptom free many times in my 12 years of HIV.Even now, I am symptom free after resuming my herbs 3 weeks ago. If u imagine Kenyan28 is a skinny female somewhere with all AIDs symptoms, u are so wrong. Ask your mate @Joag, he is my FB buddy and I keep uploading photos every other day!

Ok ma'am, you were symptoms free for 13months, right? Within which you made posts and praised Jesus right? If yes, then how does this reconcile with what you said here?

The HIV test kits used in Gauteng Rand burg,were experired, so to speak. There was no healing here.

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/53#12786741

If you were symptoms free, does that make the virus invisible to tests, or Randburg with a good population of HIV folks now has stock pile of expired kits? It begs to differ that if you weren't healed as you are now claiming, and also the kits were expired, and you were symptoms free... and yet you were so sure you were healed, you even attacked those who dared challenged your healing.

Explain this then...

AM READY TO "MAKE ALL THE NOISE" I CAN AS LONG AS AM TELLING ABOUT MY HEALING THAT I GOT AT CHRIST EMBASSY, RANDBURG, SOUTH AFRICA 03/04/2010, I WILL TELL IT OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND EVERYWHERE, THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. I am healed of HIV that I lived with for 8 years,

Were you really paranoid as SirJohn suggested then?

Thank you

Candour: I know the job of defending your master is making you lose your marbles hence you can go to the extent of denying the very obvious. Why not go ahead and deny Lawrence agada was a cec member when he stole from his employers and spent part of the loot on your church? After all you're yet to see a report on it?

Also, certifiable has two definitions. It can mean real or genuine. I'll claim this one as I've been keeping it real despite your desperate attempts at cover up.

It can also mean crazy or insane which describes what you've become since the news broke that you have been following a lie for so long.

There's no report of a generator return because it never happened. If it did, you would have opened a thread for it after all what did it cost you to open all the threads you've opened so far on your job of defending your man?

Candour o! Thanks buddy! For the laugh

Candour: Really?? What about this?

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/6751/21/chris-oyakhilome-pastor-of-christ-embassys-busines.html

Is it that you just feel a compulsion to deny everything your pastor is involved in? Was mbaemeka also talking baloney when he said the below?



Thank God he's honest enough not to deny a theft by an official of CEC occurred and part of the proceeds was put into your church.

If that first quote was an error, see him talk about it again



If you claim the blogger lied and manufactured the report, then you must admit mbaemeka was hallucinating when he admitted Lawrence agada, a thief donated some of his loot to CEC essentially corroborating what the guy you called a failed blogger wrote. Now that's something I'm sure you wouldn't want to say?

So my friend, its either you're lying you never heard or saw a report about this or you could be forgiven for being too young to know what was happening in the media 12 years ago

Bobo, Hahahahahah, I never said I wanted to deny anything o, Hahahahahah, I wanted you guys to see why a media report for returning the generator is laughable. Simples

If a media house did not carry it, me thinks demanding for a media report for generator returning makes you and DB look certifiable.

WinsomeX: www.nairaland.com/1895201/coat-many-colours-reasons-why-news

The article found in the link above, speaking about a coat of many colors, is a nice read. One cannot but give the author some credit in his phrasal construction, argument for the person of Pastor Chris, etc. For a moment, while he reeled out the achievements of the believers loveworld, one was almost lost in the euphoria of praise singing. The good thing about the article is that it is the best defense of the person of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and the recent scandal befallen his church. The bad thing about the article is that it left important questions unanswered.

First, to the title of the article "Coats of many Colors...". I personally see it as a tragedy that the current media hype of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome divorce proceedings is seen by his church members as an expression of jealousy by his competitors. Its not only a tragedy, it's sorry and sickening. It's also a lame excuse used to cover salient matters. If we consider the fact that Christ Embassy is a ministry that revels in publicity stunts and does everything to be seen in "rhapsodies", why is anyone surprised that a negative matter on them will make the news? It's simple, if you do everything for fame and popularity, you should be ready to bear with the side effects. I cannot say for sure why people write on CE, outside what I have said now but I am personally concerned with the myriads of young minds being deceived in that church. Again I say, if something is not done quickly, we shall have a tragedy in our hands in the very neat future.

The article left out so many question answered?

1. Why would a faithful wife allege adultery on her celebrity pastor-husband?

2. Who are these ladies in the white house?

3. Why was that lady pastor (can't remember her name now) suspended from church on the very day of Chris defence?

4. Why was Pastor Anita's pix removed from the church's website?

5. In spite of the volumes of books on healing published by the church, when will the church offer the world one verifiable evidence of a healed person?

6. Who is Pastor Chris? A devil or a saints.

Hahhahhaahaahhaahahaha
You've created 3 threads on Pastor Chris alone with this your new moniker, create the 4th. Eyaaa!

PastorKun: @Gombs
And how do you interprete this type of advice to be an insult

Please, do not interfere in the interview, I'd answer just this one....Nice one buddy, see the one I mean, holla if you need more.

This was the same clown that disappeared last year when we asked her probing questions to authenticate her false claims. I hope you haven't infected your poor husband with the virus sha.

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/42#7695625

Kenyan28: I saw that coming long time ago...read @Kunleoshob advice below that I refused/failed to take.

KunleOshob: @ Kenya
I would strongly advise you do an independent test with a reputable hospital, test results from CEC have time and again proven to be false. And pleeeaaaassse DON't stop taking your medication until it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that you are healed. Don't let them deceive you into not taking a confirmatory test in the excuse that you shd "exercise your faith". Of course their ready made excuse when their fake miracles are exposed is that the person didn't exercise enough faith.

It's ok if you can't answer the question, can I move to the next? Oh well, I will move on

Kenyan 28: . . In my case it was -ve and all symptoms disapeared. I cant deny that I was healed at some point. I enjoyed health for sometime . I just got it back,how? I do not know.

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/49#12745841

It is thus established you were healed, for 13 months you testified so, now we will move to other possible loop holes, I'd let you consult your lawyers.

Thank you again

Candour: Gombs, all your 'works of charity' are in the open. You and CEC never shy away from giving publicity to things like that. Even your acts of sharing your ROR is seen as works of charity and you give it enough publicity. You've already opened a thread to showcase it on NL even as we speak.

There's a simple reason why there's no news report of the generator return: it never happened.

The incident happened 12 years ago when Nigerian newspapers were still basically hard copies but here's a link that has snippets of the report

http://www.redgage.com/blogs/andrewsegawa/when-the-prosperity-gospel-back-fired.html

I even wonder if Lawrence agada still worships with CEC? Gbenga the bank manager who stole 40m and gave 10m to CEC in 2003 too is another story.

Hahahahahah, Andrew Segawa a Blogger is the Blogger you put as reputable source? A failed Blogger from Uganda, only second to Drummaboy?

Haba babana, the dude ran broke and could not finance his job website, the domain is up for sale sef, he still does that on twitter and Facebook though. This is the best you could find? Spare me the baloney of media houses not using the Internet now.

http://www.ipsnews.net/1996/01/nigeria-media-abiolas-newspaper-back-on-the-streets/

Folks were reporting news as far as 1996, besides, archives of past news are accessible on the sites of papers that reported them. Nice try though, how tomorrow go be na? Hanging out with family or indoors!? Please find me another source, I really did not see a media report.

Kenyan28: 1.I went to the HS in March 2010.
2. I had lived with HIV for 8 years then.
3. Just like any other person, I had watched Pr.Chris acting miracles on TV, so I decided to google to find much about him, while I at it, another CE pastor (Kenyan) but had worked with CE both in Nigeria and South Africa told me about the HS. I found about this thread when I was looking for HS to register. Apparently this thread is what people find/see first when they type "Healing School Christ Embassy"
4.Ofcourse I believed I could be healed after the acted "miracles" aired on TV channels.
5. I was NOT healed.
6...NEXT.

Thank you ma'am, for the above bold, in relation to the below, what changed?

Kenyan 28:
A whole year-plus of divine health. Its actually 1 year 1 month today I am celebrating and enjoying divine health, after 8 years of sickness!!  There is no God like Jehovah****there is no God like Jehovah****There is no God like Jehovah****What God can do, no man can! Thank you Jesus!

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/43#8263299

You did delete most of your post for reasons inadmissible in this interview, but if you claimed not to be healed, can you briefly explain to the whole world the above underlined? Should I assume you just lied? Or you were fooled for 1year and a month?

AND I SAID THAT AM READY TO SHOUT IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER THE HILLS, MOUNTAINS AND EVERYWHERE THAT I AM HEALED, WHATS SO DIFFICULT FOR U TO UNDERSTAND?I WILL SHOUT AS LOUD AS I CAN AND AS MANY TIMES AS I CAN THAT AM NOT GIVING SOMEONE ELSE'S TESTMONY BUT MY VERY OWN THAT ON 3/4/2010 I TESTED HIV- AFTER 8 YEARS OF BATTLING WITH THE VIRUS!!, THANKS TO THE HEALING SCHOOL AND PASTOR CHRIS, GLORY BE TO GOD,

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/42#7695157

From the above, you got insulted by the same folks flying your flag now, in a short writing, what was going through your mind when you wrote the above?

Thanks again