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nora544: Nigeria is following the God of Man and that is the biggest problem. All thiss big pastors are very good in twisting the bible like they want it and they learn from the charismatic and pentecost rich pastors in America who are not better but the people are not so brainwashed.

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SirJohn: His words: "I curse that man who dares to speak a word against this ministry"

in this other video, he wishes there's a verse in the bible [size=20pt]that will permit him to kill his critics.[/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2becyRCK6LU

Sir John o!

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it's a 40sec video, the way you put it is different from how he said it and what he meant...ironically, you skipped the first 3 sentences he made, for obvious reasons!

Candour: my friend my friend, i'm not against you fixing anything you wish to but is "fixed" all you can say? Did you just suddenly run out of what to say?

Yup, that's all i have to say... i fixed where you got it wrong.

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Gombs, you cannot eat your cake and have it.

The lady was gracious enough to enter a discussion with you;

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you too should be gracious enough and concede to this one request of hers.

I requested the interview, don’t forget that! If CNN invites you for an interview, do you ask them to ask you all the questions on start?

Ask all your questions in one go and she will answer them. I am certain even after that, she will still entertain more questions from you. But she has made it clear she doesn't have access to this forum always and a back and forth question as you desire will not be feasible.

Counselor Drummaboy, I wont!

Now, all of the above is interpreting Kenyan to Nigerian English, in case you have some trouble with comprehension.

I don't sir!

PastorKun: I see the strategy you want to use, evidently you want to ask her leading questions with the aim of getting her to contradict herself using the same tricks that lawyers use in court. But it won't work here cause some of us are on stand by to expose your trickery.

Only guilty fellows hav contradictory statements, if she's clean, no need for th abov worry! By the way, good to know your are one of her lawyers!

Kenyan28: In our PM u asked if I went through my previous posts. Here I answer, why would I need to revise a book that I authored to pass exams set from it?. I wont go through any posts. I know what I have written over the years and would still write the same even in the middle of a dream.

Ma'am, there is a reason a PM is called 'private message', well, if you want an interview, it has to be step by step, if you want all at a time, it's then an examination. It's ok if you don't want the interview.

SirJohn: While you are at it, you may as well explain the second video I posted

Going for prayer meeting with my leaders now! Would get back to you sir!

Bidam: Mama, you dey so? Abeg lef my oga Gombs alone o..him and candour na padi padi dem be.

Mai gida, ya ka ke? Kwana biu? Ina dai ka na nan lafiya? Ka kyale ni da wadanna mutane, ni ne maganin su!

Candour: So there's a difference between insulting him and insulting his the anointing? You've never mentioned this before, when did u get this new revelation?

In other words, I can call him a liar, thief, promoter of fake and stage-managed miracles and a fraud as long as I don't refer to his 'anointing', he has no right to issue curses? If he does, he will simply show himself up as being very immature right?

Fixed

Kenyan28: Compile ALL your questions in one comment. I have 2 more hours on this desk and don't do NL on weekends. Remember I am working.

Maa'am, this is an INTERVIEW not an EXAMINATION. Which interview have you ever seen the interviewer saying all the questions to the interviewee at the start?

See, you Monday then! I work too!

SirJohn: Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAQ5ftiEqE

Yup! He cursed ANYONE who speaks against the anointing in his ministry! He did not curse anyone who spoke against or insulted him.

Kenyan28: Too many ..should I call them conditions? Put ALL your questions here,it's been long overdue. Any time before 5pm (Kenyan time.)

Thanks alot!

Ok, welcome to this interview, can you please detail me in short but precise details what took you to the Healing School SA, and why you opted for it, and also, what year?

nannymcphee: You also wrote the above in response to your being questioned about the curse

Q1. On whose authority did you hand him over to satan?

I guess you took a cue from Paul in

1corithians 5

1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


If u can take a cue from Paul & hand someone over to satan why can't I take a cue from Paul by correcting a pastor when he does wrong just as Paul corrected peter?

ma'am, Paul rebuked Peter ..Peter was in Galatia, a District under Paul, and both of them were Pastors sef... a pastor rebuking another, WHEN THE OTHER was/is in his territory/domain/church.

are you a pastor? is the pastor you are trying to correct under your authority or your church?

I'll ponder on what u asked me to but u didn't answer my questions o, on my last post

which please ma'am?

nannymcphee: But you cursed someone for misconstruing a minister's statement(names withheld) as quoted by candour



Below is the person's response to u



then here is your response



You also offered this explanation when asked about the efficacy of your curse



Q1.pls can you help me put things in the right perspective?

read further down ma'am... i asked some things about Paul and Jesus. Can you please ponder on those too?

Q2.Why couldn't you act according to the admonition Jesus gave to the disciple who wanted to call down thunder in Luke 9

refer to the above reply.

54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.And they went to another village.

to put things in perspective, a to avoid derailing as i am not interested in the topic... compare what he said in that thread candour provided the link, and what he said here.

https://www.nairaland.com/1575992/god-bless-pastor-chris-oyakhilome

note, i had not this link in mind as at the time, now i know why the discuss went the way it went.

no further comment ma'am

are you gonna continue on the topic of the thread on "touch not my annointed with relations to pastors" or you want to continue discussing a nairalander?

Candour: So what did you curse him for? Why should you curse him in the first place? Have you forgotten your own words about mature sons not doing that?

like i said, i know where this is going. Nice one buddy!

The thread is there for all to see my friend. Its beyond being a personal opinion.

amen

You do?? Pls make space for me beside you. Let me enjoy it too

you always welcome

WinsomeX: If you have any question to ask, please go right ahead and do so. Is it not obvious to you that this lady has been ready for your questions since forever?

Hush buddy! Hush!

SirJohn: I have one Sir, do you mind if I share?

Be my guest sir!

Candour: ]This means you're very immature because see you purporting to 'curse' somebody on another thread



https://www.nairaland.com/1892171/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-addresses-whole/22#26156679

Sir, go back to that thread and ruminate further, see reasons explained there, and by the way, it was not Pastor Chris that did it...I did not curse him for insulting Pastor Chris, now go back and see why! Stop twisting facts to suit your desires.

And you persisted in the immaturity even after numerous corrections from well meaning individuals.

Your opinion sir, and you are entitled to one

This is without prejudice to the fact that your curse or any so called mog's curse on any christian is a futile exercise of the vocal cavity and empty rambling from the pit of self delusion. If you're an Eze nmuo or your mog is, let us know for that is another discussion.

I know where this is going, Let me sit down and enjoy this moment

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nannymcphee: You just did the same thing now, just that yours is subtle.

The verses I mentioned to u, did u see where curses where mentioned!!

2 Peter 2: 12 KJV
 12  But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

I did nothing ma'am, like I said, God did not curse them, they did themselves without knowing

Candour: Good





I'm sure you got the message





Of course he's a charlatan engaging in childish guessing and you're trying to defend him hence you're bold enough to compare those who doubt him to Israelites who doubted Moses and God.





Good



She's doing good for someone who wasn't instructed in English and will only get better than even some nairalanders who have been speaking and writing English all their lives.




You're obviously interested in knowing so much about her. You even boasted you know 50% of her already. You even confessed she interests you. I'm only trying to assist you in your quest




Don't you think its an overkill comparing an ordinary Austrian citizen with a career diplomat and the number 1 civil servant in the world? Also listen to ban ki Mon today and realise his spoken English sucks. I would rate Nora higher than Ban ki Mon considering all the resources, opportunities and privileges at Ban's beck and call




Of course another charlatan on the loose.





OK. I agree I'm no saint so let's both stop the bullying

Cheers

Alright buddy!

Candour: This Gombs can form!!! Spanish and french? Who dash you? Where you learn them? If its so easy like that, then in addition to your poor Spanish and French, I also speak Italian and German (though poor). Oya beat that!

Have you ever met me before? Do you know anything about me? It's like me doubting Goshen is in the States or Nora in Austria. If you speak those, fine, who am I to doubt?

Pls stop displaying arrogant ignorance. What has been your language of instruction since you started school, most likely at 3? If your english isnt better than Nora's who obviously must have been instructed in German all her life, then you should bury your head in shame. At least she's conversing freely on a forum based on English language, can you do same on any forum in Spanish or French or Swahili which is African?

Your opinion, and you are entitled to one.

Also, instead of you to continue your defence of the childish guesswork you call prophecy from your dear godprophet, you're busy attacking an Austrian's English. Haba, have you forgotten the title of the thread?

I should defend the prophecy? Did you read the title at all? It says, What do you think? not, "Godprophet was right". I said what I think, you should say yours, simple.

Abeg leave the woman alone jare. If anything, for the fact that her daughter is a volunteer in the fight against Ebola in Africa, she has earned the right to comment on an African forum.

1. I never said she shouldn't.
2. Polishing your English aint same as Stop speaking english.
3. Glad to know her daughter is a volunteer in the fight of Ebola, best wishes, didn’t however know there were criteria to comment on an African forum.
4. In other words, as Ban ki Moon is Korean, it's an excuse to have half polished English and comment in a public forum, and when advised to polish it up, his excuse would be he was tutored in Korean and not English, and his son is a volunteer somewhere in the world and hence has earned to write to speak or write anyhow?

Classic!

Oya, what do you think of the topic of the thread, comment or roll over. Thanks buddy!

Pls Stop the bullying.

You were just attempting to bully me now na... quit being a saint you aren't sir!

Well, my Boss just rang me I can resume today's work by 10am...Now, that's the Spirit working! Kenyan, let me know when you're ready!

Alright, all is set for the interview, it would be a closed circuit interview, with precision. Kenyan, thanks again for the chance.

Would roll out the questions in few minutes time. Though this is a public forum, and I can't see your facial expressions, and I wouldn't know whether there is a third party communication, I however request we all be honest with replies. I'm the anchor 'interviwer', you are the interviewee, I throw the questions, you answer in all sincerity. I reserve the right to bring up your answers from other threads as regard the topic or issue.

Today's friday, my mornings are crowded, but 10am should be a perfect time, I however would not m7nd you picking a time after 10am ma'am.

I look forward to an exciting time. Cheers

nannymcphee: I told you before, no mentioning of names!!

Sorry Ma'am

Are you telling me present day Christians don't lay curses on those who speak ill of christain ministers?

That's their level of knowledge, mature sons don't. Meanwhile if you insult minsters of the gospel for whatever reason, you walk in a curse, not that God cursed you, you walk out of blessings with/by your words and/or actions.

Don’t Neglect Spiritual Details · Friday, September 26th ·

Pastor Chris

Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life (Proverbs 4:13).

As you walk with the Lord, and carry out that which He instructs you to do, you must painstakingly pay attention to spiritual details because of their importance. Moses, for example, learnt this the hard way. In Numbers 20:8, God instructed him, "Take the rod, and …speak ye unto the rock…and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water…."

Moses didn’t know how important it was when God told him to talk to the rock. The instruction to speak to the rock was of spiritual significance which he ignored and struck the rock instead. It was the mistake of his life. The instruction seemed so light to Moses, but the rest of his ministry was hinged on it; he didn’t know it. Moses, however, wouldn’t be the one to lead the children of Israel to the Promised Land, because of this error.

In serving the Lord, it’s very important that you always listen to the details of His instructions, however insignificant to the flesh they might sound. God’s Word is God’s instruction. Live your life, not according to man’s instructions, information or opinions, but according to the Word. God leads you in the path of greatness by giving you clear and specific instructions to follow. It’s not about what somebody advises or instructs you to do; the question is, "What is God’s instruction in His Word about it?"

This is why I love the Bible, because it’s God’s instruction manual for a glorious life. 2 Timothy 3:16 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Do you want to have an excellent life, full of glory and success? There’s a way: Follow God’s Word; don’t neglect the details in His instructions.

Always remember that His wisdom is greater than man’s wisdom; therefore, be sensitive to the guidance He gives you through the Word, and by the Holy Spirit, and you’ll have a beautiful and exceptional life, and gloriously fulfil His calling and destiny for your life.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for your Word, which has in it the ability to cause me to do what it says and be all that you want me to be. By the help of your Spirit, my heart is attuned to your directives and I’m guided to attend to even the minutest detail of your instructions, for therein lies the blessing of a glorious life in Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 8:33;(KJV) Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

Proverbs 23:12 (KJV) Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Ephesians 3:1-21, Isaiah 19-22
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Timothy 2:1-10 Jeremiah 44

nora544: english ist not my mother toung and 2 speak to other foreign languages and german.

Neither is it mine, and I speak two other languages too, my Spanish and French are poor though!

nora544: you are the right one to write this.

I know you hate me because I write the truth

No ma'am, I am not capable of hate! I can't even if I want to. But what is worth doing is worth doing well... if you want to express in English, do it well. I correct alot of folks here, not because I hate them, but because I dislike struggling to read what someone wrote.

I like you so much that I've gathered 50% of info about you. You interest me ma'am

WinsomeX: Gombs

How long does it take for an interview to begin

Soon buddy! We still talking

nannymcphee: Still waiting for answers to this

I didn't bother ma'am... in all those, Jesus was reported not firing back or threatening or such. How many times have you seen T. B. Joshua, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Hinn, Copeland, etc... how many times have they threatened their accusers or rained brimstones on them?

Furnish me with examples if you have any.

I'm anticipating someone asking 'so Jesus and Those you mentioned are now same' or 'so, they are your Jesus now?'

Image123: Yet i think i recall his alter ego drumb, telling Gombs that he had outgrown that style of writing, whatever that means.

There's a word for such fellas.... someone mremind me please!

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I'm amazed at your response! My friend tried all avenue to get across to the pastor but could not, they were bared from entering the office complex, that's why he chose that extreme step

Was the above justifiable in your honest opinion?

There is no glitch, the company is a small company owned by the pastor

Exactly, he did no business with the church, but the pastor, why the show in the church? If he wanted to sue, who would your friend has sued? The church or the company?

What's his own story, he is the owner of the company, the client has paid him & he had refused to pay his workers

You see? You did not even care about his point of view, you are the judge and jury in your friend's case, convicting the defence cousel who you didn’t hear his side of the story. You passed judgement based on the story of the persecution cousel. Wonderful!

My friend called his friend who is an accountant in the clients firm, who confirmed the pastors company had been paid

You already had contradictory claims, new details makes it awry.

He didn't complain, it was testimony time & simply stated the facts, no commotion was caused, it was at that point, the visiting senior pastor told them(my friend & his crew) to see him after service

He didn't complain? What did he do? Preach? Exhort? Inspire? But anyways, you didn't say, if GEJ was sitting in that church that day, would your friend have dared?

Excuse me, why did the pastor Barr them from entering the office complex.

Ma'am, your judgement is clouded, your standpoint is what your friend told you, nothing else. Okay, were you there when the barr instructions were given? Or you went there with him and both of you were barred?

A pastor that could lie to a senior pastor?

Your opinion

What then can the elder do who is under the pastor?

Speak to te pastor on the claims of another fellow, if the pastor denies it or declines an explanation, it is on book your friend sought help from the church to persuade the pastor, and the pastor declined.

Excuse me, i have worked for 6momths & you refuse to pay me, you want me to write to Christian bodies & pray? Wow

So? Well, Next time, tell your friend to take the SWAT team along.

He didn't, I only used that to buttress what's happening in other circles

Yeah, right!

Yes he would have!! Gods presence was not disregarded, it was the pastor that disregarded the house of God.

You've not been in same room or hall with dignitaries obviously! God’s presence was not disregarded shey? Ok o