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Seun: donclark: We do bring old threads to the home page from time to time, if they are relevant and if they have never made the home page. We clearly mark them as old threads by appending the year of creation to the home page title e.g. "The Truth About CEC Healing School (2008)". As for the claim that people want to bring him down, whether that's "good" or "bad" depends on whether the charges against him are true or not. We're primarily interested in uncovering the truth about these allegations through a thorough discussion distortion of the facts by Nairalanders.

Let's not lose focus on the main issue - Jesus HAD THE INHERENT ABILITY TO HEAL anyone WITHOUT first teaching.

1 John 4: 17 is simply telling us that Christians represent Christ here on earth. How? As part of our ambassadorship.

Christ is the first begotten. And we? 1 John 3: 2&3: "2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.
3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.

We are and will always be accepted IN BELOVED. We don't stand on our own merits. 

Again to get back; Jesus Christ is UNIQUE - remember the Israelites shama -  'Hear oh Israel' ? It was a pointer to this uniqueness of Jesus.

His ministry, including his healings, [size=20pt]was unique [/size]therefore for any man to EQUATE himself with Jesus is blasphemous. 

That is why I stated that it was impossible for it (his power to do miracles) to be lessened because of unbelief or lack of faith. When he chose not to do miracles it was an act of his will. Jesus was in a class of his own.

mbaemeka: Bro Gombs,

Thank you o. I shared the same things you just did on some other thread and it was like what I quoted wasn't from scripture. I am happy you are showing it to them. I have more respect for him than his friend as he sometimes discusses the scriptures. His Pal will see scriptures and runaway or isolate a miniscule aspect of your post and feign peity yet he will be starting threads and calling people's father's and husband's "Charlatans and evil".

Sometimes I wonder what they think they know if the knowledge of these scriptures is above them. It reminds me of when Jesus spoke to Nicodemus and had to ask him "Are you the leader of Israel yet you don't know all these things?".

We just have to pray like Paul that the eyes of their understanding will be enlightened so that they may know the hope of our calling and the riches of our inheritance in Christ even as he takes form in them and dwells in their heart by faith-as it is clear that it is not so as we speak. Amen.

trustman: Now you're coming out to truly show yourself as one who sets out to 'bully' others. Well done!

Because the WoF advocates deify man they find it easy to put Jesus Christ in the same mould as themselves. It is therefore easy for them to look at him from their own perspective. 
[size=19pt]The Christian cannot equate himself with Jesus. [/size]
See: https://www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents/4#24527108

Note again what I have mentioned previously:
By proclaiming ourselves to be "little gods" we try to place ourselves on the same level with God. Without doubt, this is the very height of arrogance and is nothing more than self-worship and self-glorification.

 The only person who can be termed to be in the God Class is the Lord Jesus Christ who is described in the book of Hebrews as being “the exact representation of his being” or “express image of his (God’s) person” – Hebrews 1:3.

Therefore Jesus HAD THE INHERENT ABILITY TO HEAL anyone WITHOUT first teaching. 
When he healed a man with a demon in Mark 5: 1-20 what TEACHING did he do before the healing? Going on from there in the same Mark 5 when he got to the house of a ruler of the synagogue to heal/resuscitate his daughter could he TEACH the dead before performing the miracle? And he still performed the miracle in spite of the people's reaction - "40[b] [size=14pt]And they laughed at him. But[/size] [/b]he put them all outside and took the child's father and mother and those who were with him and went in where the child was.
41 Taking her by the hand he said to her, "Talitha cumi," which means, "Little girl, I say to you, arise."
42 And immediately the girl got up and began walking (for she was twelve years of age), and they were immediately overcome with amazement.
Now if you tell me it's perhaps because the parents of the girl had faith that is why Jesus WAS ABLE to raise the girl from the dead then I'll ask you why your 'MoG''s faith alone is not able to work on those who had little or no faith.
So do you see now that Jesus DID NOT need to teach first before he could heal?

PastorKun: And what are these imaginary benefits I pray thee tell.

Jesus [size=20pt]DID NOT[/size] need to teach first before he could heal

Oyinprince: Wow! More grace

Next month, I'm starting up two new bible study group and a TeeVo Club. #WeTakinOva

Ukutsgp: without salvation one cannot make heaven but tithe is nt needed to make heaven or get blessing from God.

hifaif: Go more personal. Search about me on Google and Twitter and post your findings, it wouldn't change the fact that your post is crappy and no meaningful discussion could be expected to come out of it.

About the thread you referred to, you were only too daft to understand my manners towards missyhorlar. Typical of a simpleminded individual like you to attack people with something like their DP

Ukutsgp: so why over flogging the issue

hifaif: Because you are talking crap. BS. No intelligent person would sit down to discuss crap.

Ukutsgp: it is not a must to pay tithe.

Atigba: This is absolute rubbish. In God kingdom there is nothing like man or women of God we re all children of God simple.

Atk1nson: Only a fool will fail to realise this man call 'pastor Chris' is a fraud. I've been told similar stories of people who have experienced what the op is saying

maestroferddi: I see.


Let's see how far you go...

Then you would tell us what exactly is the essence of the distinction/discussion.

morbid: I haven't been this confused in my life.

maestroferddi: All believers should pray for meekness and humility.

Pride and the quest for titles and positions are what the enemy is using to mislead many leaders in the body of Christ.

Was Jeremiah a preacher or a man of God?

What do we call John the Baptist: an evangelist or a megachurch GO?

nora544: Did you know what you write

It is nonsens!

hifaif: You obviously do not understand what you are talking about.

mrceo63: so u mean dt masturbation isnt bad...and shouldnt be comdem.. God of isreal v mercy... so pple should do self service... chai! so pls now tell me d value of self service... one i knw of is a wheelbarrow guy like dat he dose his own self service with d barrow handler...can u imagin.. do u knw what demon can make u do.. some eat grass sm eat there hair...etc as far as u self service u must be watchin porn nd u v d higher tendnecy to fornicate... Youth u guys r decieving... God v mercy! mbaemeka.. i pray for u all!

mbaemeka: Even as you know that Lying is a sin did it stop you from lying? No. The man who had to be tested for Ebola, I learnt they had to test even his semen. Did he sin when he was providing the sample for them?. Are you not aware of so-called (So-called because there's nothing like that) deliverance ministers that deliver people from 'using attachments and weavons'? Is that also scriptural? There are a lot of things people say or do that are not scriptural but because you have been taught that for a while you believed it. Let only the scriptures guide us.


Acts 13:41King James Version (KJV)
41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

MissTeaseMe: Gombs come and resume duty. The thread is on front page!!!